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| kanzure | mrr? | 06:21 |
| Juul | mrrrr | 06:22 |
| kanzure | Juul: penny auctions for lab equipment? | 06:23 |
| kanzure | just an amusing thought that passed my mind yesterday.. | 06:23 |
| Juul | that'd be nice | 06:24 |
| kanzure | do you know how penny auctions work? | 06:24 |
| kanzure | oh wikipedia gives it a better name.. "bidding fee auction" | 06:25 |
| kanzure | but that doesn't describe the common appearance (expensive stuff being "won" for cheap) | 06:25 |
| Juul | yeah | 06:25 |
| Juul | i've never participated in a penny auction though | 06:26 |
| Juul | they're mostly useful if you're trying to give to a charity i suspect | 06:26 |
| kanzure | yeah, no, they are almost always scams | 06:27 |
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| kanzure | but in the case of equipment, the bidding fees could somewhat subsidize the final purchase (maybe) | 06:28 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, does you what data you want on publishers? | 08:30 |
| kanzure | what? | 08:31 |
| kanzure | is that a sentence? | 08:31 |
| delinquentme | gnar | 08:31 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 08:31 |
| delinquentme | ok it looked good in my head | 08:31 |
| kanzure | say again | 08:32 |
| delinquentme | I've got publisher name, url and index_url | 08:32 |
| delinquentme | do you know what publisher meta data you want | 08:32 |
| kanzure | you also need a list of its journals, a list of its editions, list of its volumes, founding date, last scraped date | 08:33 |
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| kanzure | rss links would be hawt | 08:33 |
| kanzure | a description of each journal would be nice.. usually they have a blurb describing the journal | 08:34 |
| kanzure | annual reviews keeps all of its supplements separate.. really odd, but they are very important to catch/document http://www.annualreviews.org/db/suppl | 08:34 |
| delinquentme | http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/03/dna-sequencing-without-the-fuss.html?ref=hp#.T3HbUAwbDe0.reddit | 08:35 |
| delinquentme | focus on big publishers ... or "everything" | 08:36 |
| kanzure | all of them. why not. | 08:36 |
| * delinquentme 's sanitay | 08:40 | |
| uniqanomaly | delinquentme: create platform where plugins = publishers | 08:43 |
| uniqanomaly | :P | 08:43 |
| kanzure | a plugin architecture is about the only reasonable solution | 08:45 |
| uniqanomaly | btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OFFSystem | 08:45 |
| uniqanomaly | peer-to-peer distributed file system | 08:45 |
| kanzure | i don't think that's important right now | 08:46 |
| kanzure | first step is to get the data | 08:46 |
| kanzure | distribution is easy | 08:46 |
| uniqanomaly | sure | 08:46 |
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| kanzure | what are the two missing pages in between papers from any annualreview.org journal? | 09:19 |
| delinquentme | ?? | 09:51 |
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| kanzure | bleh | 10:00 |
| kanzure | http://www.deccanherald.com/content/237384/a-case-diy-viruses.html | 10:00 |
| kanzure | "Todd Kuiken, a senior research associate at the Woodrow Wilson Centre in Washington who specialises in the movement" | 10:01 |
| kanzure | no he doesn't.. | 10:01 |
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| ParahSailin | just interviewed with a bioinformatics house | 11:11 |
| delinquentme | ^^^ | 11:11 |
| ParahSailin | im surprised i was able to answer the coding questions decently | 11:13 |
| ParahSailin | never formally studied data structures | 11:13 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: what was the q? | 11:18 |
| ParahSailin | various ones about linked lists, hash tables | 11:19 |
| ParahSailin | its a company that has to assemble nextgen seq data | 11:20 |
| kanzure | ah.. so crossbow + alignment, probably on clusters | 11:22 |
| ParahSailin | i didn't get a C syntax question right though -- difference between char *p = "foo"; vs char p[] = "foo"; | 11:23 |
| kanzure | or if they have capital to blow, probably some proprietary alignment/cloud bullshit | 11:23 |
| ParahSailin | http://www.eurekagenomics.com/ws/home.html theyve got some algorithms on pdfs there | 11:23 |
| ParahSailin | but my edge over the CS kids is that i knew the mol bio questions well | 11:24 |
| kanzure | "what is a sticky end" "fo rizzle my dizzle? dawg i got this" | 11:24 |
| delinquentme | ParahSailin, DNA nexus? | 11:25 |
| ParahSailin | eureka genomics | 11:25 |
| ParahSailin | they were looking for a grunt technician anyway, so that might weed out some of the more qualified cs folks | 11:27 |
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| delinquentme | I MAEK PETISHUN FOR INCREASED SUPPORT FOR GOOGLE EXPRESSIONS! | 12:59 |
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| delinquentme | sign. | 13:05 |
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| kanzure | what | 13:26 |
| * Mokbortolan_1 gives delinquentme his medication. | 13:26 | |
| kanzure | my face.. something about google.. | 13:26 |
| kanzure | Ok, he googled my faicial expression | 13:26 |
| kanzure | *facial | 13:26 |
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| kanzure | "Post-mortem decapitation by domestic dogs: three case reports and review of the literature" | 14:31 |
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| kanzure | if i wasn't against getting brain scanned after dying, i think i'd keep a german shephard around. | 14:33 |
| kanzure | *if i was against | 14:33 |
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| kanzure | "Molecular Simulation Studies of Nucleic Acid Systems for Biological Applications" (Arthi Jayaraman) | 16:17 |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: how goes it? | 16:19 |
| yashgaroth | ehh | 16:19 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, what do german shepards have to do w brain scans? | 16:24 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: http://imgur.com/a/MeU6t | 16:36 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: german shephards eat their owner's brain when they die. | 16:37 |
| delinquentme | WTF | 16:37 |
| yashgaroth | fig. 10 goddamn | 16:37 |
| delinquentme | naming is messed up | 16:37 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: it's for science. | 16:37 |
| yashgaroth | yeah but still damn | 16:37 |
| delinquentme | i thought they were cutting the heads off of dogs | 16:37 |
| kanzure | nope! | 16:37 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | yeah they are | 16:37 |
| kanzure | so if you don't want to get mind uploaded when you die.. keep one of these dogs around when you go. | 16:38 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | 1 sec | 16:38 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/dog_robot.jpg | 16:38 |
| kanzure | Mokbortolan_1: see also "Experiments in the Revival of Organisms" | 16:38 |
| kanzure | on youtube. | 16:38 |
| delinquentme | yeahhhh | 16:39 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | I saw it before youtube | 16:39 |
| delinquentme | I think id keep my brain intact | 16:39 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: me too | 16:39 |
| kanzure | Mokbortolan_1: ah i guess the video is on archive.org | 16:39 |
| delinquentme | yeahhhh | 16:39 |
| delinquentme | i think i like fish | 16:39 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | there or AtomFilms | 16:39 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | I wonder whatever happened to Atomfilms... | 16:39 |
| kanzure | atomfilms? | 16:39 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | reeeeally early video site | 16:39 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | focused on independent filmmakers | 16:40 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom.com | 16:40 |
| Mokbortolan_1 | sort of the first youtube | 16:40 |
| delinquentme | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_journals | 16:41 |
| strangewarp | If the computation put toward resimulation in all possible universes trumps the computation required to resimulate all possible minds, and if you aren't worried about existential continuity, then you're probably getting resimulated no matter what you try to do | 16:41 |
| strangewarp | ^A funny idea I've been toying with | 16:41 |
| delinquentme | strangewarp, you're assuming that if computation resimulation power in all universes > computing of all possible minds == something | 16:44 |
| delinquentme | i think that overlooks co-evolution of human / machine minds | 16:44 |
| strangewarp | I don't see how that would matter | 16:44 |
| delinquentme | you're assuming that you can compare them | 16:46 |
| strangewarp | Oh right | 16:47 |
| delinquentme | im saying if they co-evolve... as they are currently | 16:47 |
| delinquentme | they're going to develop in different and complementary ways | 16:47 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: they only list 336 journals for elsevier | 16:47 |
| delinquentme | symbiotically at least at first | 16:47 |
| kanzure | i don't think wikipedia is a good source, sorry | 16:47 |
| delinquentme | oh not the only | 16:47 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Academic_journals_by_publisher | 16:47 |
| strangewarp | Well, I am assuming a complexity boundary for what could be reasonably resimulated in a given universe, also biased towards its own history | 16:47 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, no necessito grand list of journals? | 16:49 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i think a grand list is important, so that we can say we're x% complete | 16:51 |
| kanzure | there's only <40,000 journals anyway.. it's totally doable | 16:51 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, we dont have that list huh | 16:53 |
| delinquentme | see the thing is I've been mulling over a way to feed in URLS and get the index lists | 16:54 |
| kanzure | most sites are different. | 16:54 |
| delinquentme | yeah thats what I mean | 16:54 |
| kanzure | there's only 20 main publishers anyway | 16:54 |
| delinquentme | how do you search a URL .. and get the indexes | 16:54 |
| kanzure | let's not.. | 16:54 |
| kanzure | damn. you lazy. | 16:54 |
| delinquentme | who are the publishers | 16:54 |
| kanzure | one sec | 16:55 |
| delinquentme | that makes an awesome programmer! | 16:55 |
| delinquentme | i thought I've found some solidly intuitive ways to judge whether a page is an index too! | 16:56 |
| delinquentme | KWs: journal index, recent issues, index, journal volumes, volume, volumes, subject, topics, all subjects, | 16:56 |
| delinquentme | number of <li> tags | 16:57 |
| delinquentme | # Search by existing topic KWs >> "chemistry" + "biology" + "physics" | 16:57 |
| delinquentme | but yeah thats less awesome compared to just all of the journals | 16:57 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/publishers.txt | 17:00 |
| kanzure | no- they do not all use li tags | 17:00 |
| kanzure | and in general you can't assume that a link is a link to a journal.. it's probably a navigation link or some shit. i guess you can factor those out by looking at another page, but it's better to be sure that a link is a journal, than to clutter your database and be sorry. | 17:00 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, ebsco isnt on there? | 17:14 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme: i think they just aggregate | 17:24 |
| kanzure | not sure | 17:24 |
| kanzure | it's worth checking | 17:24 |
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| yashgaroth | hey n_bentha how'd the transformation go? | 18:47 |
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| fenn | i'm consistently impressed by rex kerr's ability to state his position | 20:11 |
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| joshcryer | Link? | 20:17 |
| fenn | sorry, it's on a private mailing list | 20:23 |
| fenn | wow 61 nicks in this channel? how did that happen? | 20:23 |
| joshcryer | Ahh, did a background on him, sounded interesting. | 20:23 |
| joshcryer | Ooh, is he the same guy on Stack Overflow? | 20:25 |
| joshcryer | Seeing his answers I think that answers the question actually. | 20:25 |
| fenn | dammit, every smart person i know is working on this same problem | 20:26 |
| fenn | "In particular, he wants to build an imaging system that can rapidly capture fluorescent signals from the entire brain instead of from only a single neuron." | 20:26 |
| joshcryer | <3 | 20:27 |
| kanzure | pfft singularityu is going to incubate the genomecompiler guys? http://angel.co/genome-compiler | 20:34 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: you should email Tux Lab <project.tuxlab@gmail.com> and ask when you can come by.. they have a hackerspace-thing somewhere | 20:47 |
| kanzure | they want to do an open hardware startup of some sort. claim to have equipment.. | 20:47 |
| kanzure | fenn: that might be because of your bias (living with a bunch of neuro+optics people) | 20:51 |
| kanzure | also: george church is on sigma aldrich's board. damn. http://investor.sigmaaldrich.com/directors.cfm | 20:52 |
| yashgaroth | they're electrical though, right? | 20:55 |
| kanzure | dunno? | 20:56 |
| yashgaroth | I'll do it if you pay for gas :V | 20:56 |
| kanzure | i thought you live in LA | 20:57 |
| kanzure | oh, SD. | 20:57 |
| yashgaroth | no biotech in LA | 20:57 |
| kanzure | got my geography all wrong. | 20:57 |
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| ybit | can anyone actually connect to this and use it?magnet:?xt=urn:btih:54e7646937050d845fc649df62f7a368d02124af&dn=farm | 21:18 |
| joshcryer | ybit, nope, nothing so far... | 21:41 |
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| ybit | joshcryer: yeah, nobody's able to download | 21:50 |
| ybit | port forwarding is enabled for 6881, 7881, and 8881 | 21:50 |
| ybit | tcp/udp | 21:51 |
| ybit | just to be safe | 21:51 |
| ybit | it's frustrating | 21:52 |
| ybit | joshcryer: for kicks, do you have dht enabled? | 21:54 |
| ybit | kanzure: add this to the kicking ass session of the h+ con | 21:55 |
| Steel2 | is there any actual plans for an h+ con | 22:00 |
| ybit | Steel2: i don't think so | 22:02 |
| Steel2 | kanzure: you around? | 22:10 |
| joshcryer | ybit, yeah | 22:16 |
| joshcryer | And I'm DMZ'd | 22:16 |
| joshcryer | Which I shouldn't admit... | 22:16 |
| joshcryer | ybit, at least now I see files but it's basically not moving\ | 22:16 |
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| ybit | right, it's something on my end but i'm not seeing what it is | 22:33 |
| joshcryer | I'm curious as to what the images are of. :) | 22:48 |
| joshcryer | Also, even more curious why the files resolved but no downloading is happening. | 22:48 |
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| ybit | joshcryer: images of my farm | 22:58 |
| ybit | and some various plants | 22:58 |
| ybit | it's me testing | 22:59 |
| joshcryer | wow mega millions rolled | 23:01 |
| joshcryer | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/03/no-363-million-mega-millions-winner-in-california-officials-say.html | 23:01 |
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| Steel2 | yashgaroth, you up? | 23:32 |
| kanzure | beep | 23:32 |
| yashgaroth | yes | 23:32 |
| Steel2 | http://www.meetup.com/sdtranshumanists/events/53977952/ | 23:33 |
| yashgaroth | ya kanz sent me the link | 23:33 |
| Steel2 | okay, cool | 23:34 |
| kanzure | just doing my job | 23:34 |
| Mariu | later everyone | 23:34 |
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| kanzure | http://imgur.com/qceso | 23:36 |
| kanzure | "Buy a wife from Vietnam for only 6000 USD" | 23:36 |
| kanzure | "1. Guaranteed virgin" | 23:36 |
| kanzure | "4. If ran away within a year, you get another one free" | 23:36 |
| Steel2 | eww | 23:37 |
| joshcryer | my brother got himself a filipino | 23:41 |
| joshcryer | (total cost about $10k and she's 100% legal) | 23:44 |
| Utopiah | still years away from the 3D printed girlfriend... | 23:46 |
| joshcryer | I had a thought that you could just fill it with sitcom language from the past 20 years and it'd be a passable ditz | 23:47 |
| joshcryer | heh | 23:47 |
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| kanzure | good night | 23:57 |
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