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| kanzure | night | 00:31 |
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| thyla | ok who is here? | 02:07 |
| thyla | I just found a factual lie on penn state's website | 02:08 |
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| nmz787 | http://genome.duke.edu/press/news/post.php?s=2012-04-24-violence-puts-wear-and-tear-on-kids-dna | 08:09 |
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| thyla | [12:36] <thyla> some woman named "Andrea" at Penn State thinks we already have the technology to build exobots. | 09:36 |
| thyla | [12:36] <thyla> Maybe someone should email her | 09:36 |
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| kanzure | hrm i don't know why all my .tar.gz files keep on ending up being .tar files | 09:39 |
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| vrs | no z option? | 09:49 |
| kanzure | no i remember z... | 09:57 |
| kanzure | it's happened once or twice before.. either fenn or jrayhawk pointed it out | 09:58 |
| kanzure | but now the russians are on my back about it | 09:58 |
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| nmz787 | ruskies eh? | 10:24 |
| nmz787 | you working for them now? | 10:25 |
| nmz787 | man DIYbio has been really slow/low-volume lately | 10:25 |
| kanzure | nmz787: there are a lot of ruskies interested in nanoengineer | 10:27 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: like Алексей Татаренко, Евгений Сильвёрстов, Ратмир Сайфутдинов, Сергей Евфратов, Василий Артюхов, matvey ezhov, vasilii artyukhov, danila medvedev, etc. | 10:32 |
| nmz787 | ??? | 10:38 |
| nmz787 | i see | 10:38 |
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| jrayhawk | you should be using -J anyway | 12:23 |
| kanzure | tar zxvf, tar czf right? | 12:26 |
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| thyla | So russians have no word for baloon | 12:58 |
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| thyla | they say (literally) "airy little ball" | 12:59 |
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| kanzure | why don't they just say balloon? | 13:17 |
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| archels | http://gizmodo.com/5906913/this-man-had-a-taser-dart-stuck-in-his-brain-and-didnt-even-realize | 13:37 |
| kanzure | archels: shit happens :) | 13:38 |
| eudoxia | this kind of stuff happens so often it's not even interesting anymore :| | 13:38 |
| eudoxia | not to belittle your link or anything | 13:38 |
| kanzure | yeah man, just last night i got a blowdart lodged in my prefrontal cortex | 13:39 |
| kanzure | thought nothing of it just kept coding | 13:39 |
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| archels | hahaha | 14:14 |
| archels | Well, it's a miracle they didn't permanently lobotomize this poor individual, although I'm sure he would have been functionally lobotomized for a good while... | 14:15 |
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| katsmeow-afk | pictures show the dart sticking out of his head a good inch, how the hell did no one notice? It's not like it matches one sticking out on the otehr side | 14:35 |
| yashgaroth | maybe he was wearing a hat | 14:35 |
| katsmeow-afk | and it didn't fall off at any time during the struggle with cops, or the exam thereafter | 14:36 |
| yashgaroth | elastic hat | 14:36 |
| katsmeow-afk | so it was in his brain a "couple of millimeters", and i presume the cops pulled the trigger and shocked him with a few dozen kv? | 14:37 |
| chris_99 | might be of interest to you guys http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/ahrc/script-ed/vol7-3/hawkins.asp | 14:39 |
| chris_99 | regarding genes & patents | 14:39 |
| chris_99 | (in europe) | 14:40 |
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| delinquentme | man made: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/James_Webb_Primary_Mirror.jpg | 17:08 |
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| eudoxia | looks rad as fuck | 17:15 |
| eudoxia | too bad it's getting cancelled | 17:15 |
| kanzure | DARPA funding o'reilly to put some hackerspaces in high schools | 17:19 |
| kanzure | http://makerspace.com/2012/05/01/makerspace-playbook/ | 17:19 |
| kanzure | http://makerspacedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/makerspaceplaybook-201204.pdf | 17:19 |
| kanzure | http://makerspacedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hsmakerspacetoolsmaterials-201204.pdf | 17:19 |
| kanzure | why is their workspace carpeted -_- | 17:20 |
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| kanzure | huh is personal laser hair removal a thing? | 17:34 |
| kanzure | " the FDA has approved at-home, do-it-yourself laser treatments for almost permanent hair removal" fascinating | 17:35 |
| kanzure | diy colorimeter | 17:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.iorodeo.com/colorimeter | 17:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iorodeo-colorimeter/educational-colorimeter-kit | 17:36 |
| kanzure | and nmz787's thing.. which did not get funded http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/makerhaus/open-spectrometer?ref=history | 17:37 |
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| kanzure | hi roksprok_, jmil | 18:11 |
| roksprok_ | hi everyone | 18:12 |
| roksprok_ | kanzure would you mind looking over a 'please hire me for a while' email i was thinking of sending out? | 18:13 |
| kanzure | uh i was thinking of paying you to finish the protocol site | 18:14 |
| kanzure | but yeah sure send it along to me.. kanzure@gmail.com | 18:14 |
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| roksprok_ | sent...thanks a lot | 18:17 |
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| kanzure | holy hell no | 18:20 |
| kanzure | yeah i'll send you some edits | 18:20 |
| kanzure | oh nice.. https://github.com/roksprok/Scraping/blob/master/openprotocolsscraper.py | 18:21 |
| kanzure | is this it? https://github.com/roksprok/OpenProtocols | 18:22 |
| kanzure | related note: most people don't commit .pyc files because python recreates those | 18:22 |
| roksprok_ | hah that bad? damn | 18:22 |
| roksprok_ | does that mean i should stop just doing git add . | 18:23 |
| kanzure | hrmm well | 18:23 |
| roksprok_ | or is there a settings file where i can exclude things? | 18:23 |
| kanzure | what i do is i add "*.pyc" to .gitignore | 18:23 |
| kanzure | observe.. | 18:23 |
| kanzure | http://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer/tree/master/.gitignore | 18:23 |
| kanzure | perhaps less interesting.. https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/blob/master/.gitignore | 18:24 |
| roksprok_ | cool will add | 18:25 |
| roksprok_ | *dumb question alert* when you merge two branches, will only overlapping stuff raise a conflict or will any difference raise one? | 18:33 |
| kanzure | only merge conflicts will be brought to your attention | 18:33 |
| jmil | o/ kanzure | 18:51 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | http://blakemasters.tumblr.com/post/21437840885/peter-thiels-cs183-startup-class-5-notes-essay | 18:58 |
| delinquentme | If people complain about people behind each other’s backs, you have a problem. If people don’t trust each other to do good work, you have a problem. But if people know that their teammates are going to deliver, you’re good. Even if they are all calling each other idiots. | 18:59 |
| JayDugger | I'd feel more sanguine if the quote beneath the blog header didn't come from the role-playing-game Eclipse Phase. | 18:59 |
| kanzure | roksprok_: ok writing my reply | 18:59 |
| roksprok_ | Isn't Apple a pretty strong counter example to the intro of that article? | 19:00 |
| roksprok_ | ty kanzure | 19:00 |
| roksprok_ | 'don't be a cult' | 19:00 |
| JayDugger | Going on to quote Francis Bacon’s Novum Organum soothes my qualm about the earlier quote. | 19:01 |
| kanzure | cultivist: adj. one who advocates and performs the cultivation of cults | 19:01 |
| kanzure | i want a cult that makes cults | 19:01 |
| jrayhawk | advocate for absolute truth, but do so through ambiguous analogies | 19:02 |
| jrayhawk | it'll take a long time to beat abrahamism, though | 19:02 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: are you making suggestions for how a proper metacult would be structured? | 19:02 |
| kanzure | brownies: are you around? | 19:03 |
| roksprok_ | delinquentme: do you know how long the cs183 class is? ie how paraphrased are the notes? | 19:06 |
| delinquentme | nah it just says that its not a direct transcript | 19:07 |
| delinquentme | roksprok, apple culture within their employees? | 19:07 |
| delinquentme | simple retort : " Are they clearly kicking ass within societal ranking " | 19:07 |
| delinquentme | questionmark | 19:07 |
| delinquentme | while society isnt the best of tools to measure with ... they're not operating the LHC | 19:08 |
| roksprok_ | honestly i am just going off Pirates of Silicon Valley... | 19:08 |
| roksprok_ | I still have not read Isaccson's Steve Jobs | 19:10 |
| roksprok_ | does anyone know if kickstarter will do a chargeback if a reward is not provided? | 19:11 |
| kanzure | lots of kickstarter projects don't deliver on the rewards | 19:12 |
| kanzure | and in general no it hasn't been the case | 19:12 |
| kanzure | kickstarter will only charge you once the project is fully funded and it's the 45 day mark (or whatever) | 19:12 |
| roksprok_ | here is a DIY Arduino EEG that it appears like the project creators just kind of quit after a year. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/86514518/diy-arduino-eeg?ref=users | 19:14 |
| yashgaroth | what about if you don't meet the funding goal? | 19:15 |
| roksprok_ | no money changes hands then | 19:15 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: project fails to get funded | 19:15 |
| yashgaroth | oh that sucks | 19:16 |
| kanzure | sadly this was the fate of nmz787's open spectrometer | 19:16 |
| kanzure | http://openspectrometer.com/ | 19:16 |
| kanzure | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/makerhaus/open-spectrometer | 19:16 |
| roksprok_ | meanwhile there are like 5 internet of things projects that all got 10's of thousands | 19:17 |
| yashgaroth | that stupid fucking air pollution egg | 19:17 |
| kanzure | it's a social/marketing thing.. plus if you have a great video, that always helps | 19:17 |
| kanzure | some people just cultivate a community of people that give them money regularly | 19:17 |
| kanzure | so sending them to kickstarter is how they get money out of their pockets | 19:18 |
| kanzure | of course, sometimes you post in the right place at the right time and enough people actually need/want whatever you are selling | 19:18 |
| roksprok_ | right place = reddit/hackernews/submist to gizmodo? | 19:19 |
| roksprok_ | *submit | 19:19 |
| kanzure | not always.. | 19:19 |
| kanzure | reddit isn't your personal funding machine | 19:20 |
| roksprok_ | well what websites are the 'right place'? | 19:20 |
| kanzure | if you could predict that then i think you would be making more money than you do | 19:21 |
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| roksprok_ | just browsing thorugh kickstarter it seems like for every category there is 'new', 'hot', and 'staff picks' so it is kind of hard to find the success rate | 19:22 |
| roksprok_ | kanzure: good point/touche | 19:23 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, did you apply to octopart? | 19:24 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme: nope but i talked with them a looong time ago about skdb. they were pretty excited about it. | 19:26 |
| kanzure | i think i implemented an octopart api at some point. | 19:26 |
| kanzure | roksprok_: something like 40% | 19:26 |
| delinquentme | you mean like the one they've got? | 19:26 |
| kanzure | or 60%. one of the two. | 19:27 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i mean i wrote one in python to interface with their http api.. this was before they had a python library -_- | 19:27 |
| kanzure | octopart has been around for quite a while.. i hear they have been growing lately | 19:27 |
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| delinquentme | http://www.ventureloop.com/ventureloop/jobdetail.php?r=f_in&jobid=102310&utm_source=Indeed&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Indeed | 19:28 |
| delinquentme | you saw the hidden mention at the bottom right? =] | 19:28 |
| delinquentme | bonus for interest in bio or physics | 19:29 |
| kanzure | roksprok_: sent. | 19:30 |
| kanzure | roksprok_: i am only harsh on you because i love you :P | 19:31 |
| roksprok_ | kanzure: recieved, i am a masochist so even better | 19:33 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, no word from alex eh? | 19:51 |
| kanzure | wwho? | 19:52 |
| delinquentme | kiselev | 19:52 |
| delinquentme | i mean what he is actually working on | 19:52 |
| kanzure | oh i think fenn knows | 19:53 |
| kanzure | he mentioned him or something | 19:53 |
| delinquentme | fenn_, | 20:02 |
| delinquentme | be here. | 20:02 |
| delinquentme | i choose you fenn_ asaur! tail whip! | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | The going rate on ebay for a RepRap Prusa Mendel 2.0 is $798 plus $95 S&H. (http://r.ebay.com/BQYtx6) | 20:09 |
| kanzure | roksprok_: http://lab.methodmint.com/methods/1458/ | 20:09 |
| roksprok_ | also http://onebiglab.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-paper-protocol-lab-knowledge.html is the launch notice of one that doesn't exist anymore | 20:14 |
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| roksprok_ | method mint seems to have less than 10 contributers | 20:16 |
| roksprok_ | yashgaroth: you around? | 20:16 |
| n_bentha | who's excited for the may 7th launch? | 20:16 |
| kanzure | n_bentha: take a look at methodmint.. http://lab.methodmint.com would you use this? | 20:16 |
| roksprok_ | are the SpaceX people affiliated with that astroid mining group? | 20:17 |
| n_bentha | hmm i wonder | 20:18 |
| kanzure | roksprok_: sort of.. probably through peter diamandis | 20:18 |
| kanzure | n_bentha: i'm trying to figure out why nobody is using it | 20:18 |
| JayDugger | Planetary Resources-to-Bigelow Aerospace...any idea on a connection? | 20:19 |
| n_bentha | that is interesting kanzure | 20:19 |
| n_bentha | they need a thuimbs up/down for the protocols though | 20:19 |
| kanzure | they do have it | 20:20 |
| n_bentha | or at least a it worked it didn't work or i don't think it's going to work rating system | 20:20 |
| kanzure | hover over the "+2" http://lab.methodmint.com/methods/16/ | 20:20 |
| n_bentha | really? | 20:20 |
| n_bentha | all is ee is +2 | 20:20 |
| n_bentha | see* | 20:20 |
| kanzure | ah when i hover over it there are up/down arrows | 20:20 |
| n_bentha | hmm | 20:20 |
| kanzure | but anyway.. i agree that a more accurate rating system would be useful | 20:20 |
| n_bentha | yes | 20:20 |
| n_bentha | but i doubt many pi's would like their students using it | 20:21 |
| kanzure | why's that? | 20:21 |
| n_bentha | idk...cuz it's not from some journal | 20:21 |
| JayDugger | Because it short-cuts the dues-paying aspect of student life. | 20:21 |
| n_bentha | yes | 20:22 |
| n_bentha | exactly | 20:22 |
| n_bentha | and cuz the fat cats aren't getting rich off of it | 20:22 |
| JayDugger | Cynic: n. One rarely surprised by his fellow men, but very occasionally delighted. | 20:22 |
| kanzure | i think another possibility is that most people don't run a lot of protocols | 20:22 |
| n_bentha | like if it was used within a university, it'd be fine...but since it's so wide open... | 20:22 |
| kanzure | hmm a single university version would be very interesting | 20:23 |
| n_bentha | that too, kanz | 20:23 |
| JayDugger | That could also be the case. My lab experience is long, long past. | 20:23 |
| kanzure | like the way facebook spread | 20:23 |
| yashgaroth | !whatup roksprok_? | 20:23 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: would you use methodmint? | 20:23 |
| n_bentha | yes, but a single univ version wouldn't be that great anyway. | 20:23 |
| JayDugger | Ah...now that's a good point. | 20:23 |
| kanzure | http://lab.methodmint.com/methods/ | 20:23 |
| kanzure | n_bentha: why's that? | 20:23 |
| kanzure | i guess there's only <500 labs per university | 20:23 |
| kanzure | so you would have maybe one or two users total | 20:23 |
| roksprok_ | yashgaroth: or any protocol sharing site? | 20:24 |
| yashgaroth | sure, what's the difference between that and protocol-online or whatever kanz was scraping? | 20:24 |
| n_bentha | too small of a community i guess? | 20:24 |
| kanzure | protocol-online has no ability to do rating | 20:24 |
| n_bentha | 1 university likely had 1 lab for 1 area of research | 20:24 |
| roksprok_ | there was some y-combinator company doing online lab journals | 20:24 |
| JayDugger | You could focus on protocol sharing standards for a variety of focused sites: school, school system, field, etc. | 20:24 |
| yashgaroth | oh well web 3.0 is all about rating | 20:24 |
| n_bentha | so u need inter-instiutional commmunication for the best protocls n such | 20:24 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: pfft come on. "protocol does/doesn't work" is super important | 20:24 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: or "protocol requires X standard deviations of care while executing" | 20:25 |
| yashgaroth | haha 90% of ratings will be "it didn't work" for any protocol | 20:25 |
| kanzure | YES | 20:25 |
| kanzure | because they suck | 20:25 |
| kanzure | duh | 20:25 |
| JayDugger | Good. | 20:25 |
| yashgaroth | or just because biology sucks, but yeah | 20:25 |
| n_bentha | give it forums, and a rep points system | 20:25 |
| kanzure | n_bentha: i think that already exists on this current site | 20:25 |
| n_bentha | u know...more points for protocols / protocol comments etc | 20:25 |
| JayDugger | I spent months trying to get a RIA to work (redacted) hears ago. | 20:25 |
| JayDugger | The lab gave it up a week after I left. | 20:25 |
| kanzure | n_bentha: i'm really skeptical because nobody is using this current site | 20:26 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: one idea i had is that it would be nice to be able to call someone up about a protocol | 20:27 |
| kanzure | like if your immune tissue culture protocol goes to shit, who the fuck do you call? | 20:27 |
| yashgaroth | immunebusters | 20:27 |
| yashgaroth | email might be better | 20:27 |
| kanzure | still not sure who to email.. some random professors who might have written papers you read once? | 20:28 |
| n_bentha | ok kanzure | 20:28 |
| n_bentha | you could try the slashdot.org style of mod points | 20:28 |
| yashgaroth | whoever it is you'd be calling, email tends to be more polite | 20:28 |
| n_bentha | and that website seemed a little unorganized | 20:28 |
| kanzure | n_bentha: do you use stackoverflow ever? | 20:28 |
| n_bentha | no | 20:28 |
| kanzure | ah.. methodmint is copying stackoverflow | 20:28 |
| kanzure | http://stackoverflow.com/ | 20:28 |
| kanzure | their rating system is widely considered to be successful | 20:28 |
| kanzure | as a replacement to expertsexchange | 20:28 |
| roksprok_ | somewhat_related_question: is there any cost competiton in grants? like would labs get a competitive advantage if they suddenly could do X for half the normal rate? | 20:28 |
| n_bentha | expersexchange LOL | 20:29 |
| roksprok_ | either because their protocols were less buggy or they had cheaper consumables | 20:29 |
| kanzure | n_bentha: ExpertsExchange not ExpertSexChange ;) | 20:29 |
| * yashgaroth has no experience with grants, thankfully | 20:30 | |
| kanzure | roksprok_: cheaper protocols/consumables might matter in the <$5000 grant range.. but meh | 20:30 |
| n_bentha | ^_^ | 20:31 |
| roksprok_ | that's a bummer | 20:34 |
| roksprok_ | i guess crap like name recognition is the biggest factor then? and 'how good your science is'? | 20:34 |
| yashgaroth | in terms of receiving grants? who you know, and what/where you've published | 20:37 |
| roksprok_ | at like the NIH are applications peer reviewed or are there internal reviewers? | 20:38 |
| roksprok_ | nvm google | 20:38 |
| roksprok_ | so what about industry? it seems like it would be useful for a giant like Pfiezer to have an internal protocol exchange | 20:40 |
| kanzure | they have their own custom information management systems that they paid millions for | 20:40 |
| yashgaroth | for a large company, there's a database of Standard Operating Procedures | 20:41 |
| yashgaroth | which are probably proprietary, no matter how banal they are | 20:41 |
| roksprok_ | maybe all the biotech startups then? like keep an updated list of best protocols and you get access to the previous ones by donating yours? | 20:43 |
| roksprok_ | or are they mostly doing stuff they've been doing for decades as professors | 20:43 |
| yashgaroth | they don't usually make their own protocols, if you need one you ask around | 20:43 |
| yashgaroth | everything in biotech is based on previous work, which usually has a protocol attached | 20:44 |
| kanzure | and sometimes a grad student attached to the protocol too! | 20:44 |
| yashgaroth | they don't feel pain so it's cool | 20:45 |
| kanzure | like literally i've seen "oh yeah, this is our emulsions guy" | 20:45 |
| kanzure | and it's some underfed grad student that's been around for eight years | 20:45 |
| n_bentha | lol | 20:46 |
| n_bentha | so true | 20:46 |
| yashgaroth | I ended up doing a lot of tweak to my protocols, mostly stuff like "oh yeah you don't need 3 washes x 5 minutes because I'm lazy and it works" | 20:46 |
| roksprok_ | did you write it down? and pass it on? | 20:47 |
| yashgaroth | nah they laid me off so fuck them | 20:47 |
| kanzure | honestly even if he did write it down the prof or w/e probably lost it | 20:47 |
| yashgaroth | my boss got laid off too, so it's lost in the sands of time | 20:47 |
| n_bentha | for shame | 20:48 |
| yashgaroth | no one strictly follows protocol unless they're new or they're working in a GMP facility | 20:48 |
| yashgaroth | pfft like anyone times their western blot washes | 20:48 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: well yes, protocols are used to communicate with those who don't know :P | 20:48 |
| n_bentha | not true, yashgaroth | 20:48 |
| n_bentha | ppl strictly follow the protocol, but not necessarily the one they found in a paper | 20:49 |
| roksprok_ | do these protocol-based-inefficenes have readily visible costs that you could point to and say 'your company/lab/department would have saved $X if you had our system in place'? | 20:49 |
| n_bentha | like i made my own 'tweaked' protocols, and i'd be consistent about them | 20:49 |
| yashgaroth | that's what I mean, I had my own derived protocols, but not the exact one I was handed | 20:49 |
| roksprok_ | n_bentha - did you have these tweaks on a computer or written down somewhere? or just remembered it? | 20:50 |
| roksprok_ | because if someone just had to upload it they may actually participate, rather than having to write it out | 20:50 |
| yashgaroth | it'd be nice to have a collected Q&A with each protocol, so if your bands turn out all blurry you can see what other people did/recommend about it | 20:51 |
| n_bentha | roksprok_: i wrote them down ion my lab journal | 20:52 |
| n_bentha | yeah...having an online account w/ all my protocols would be cool... | 20:53 |
| kanzure | i think sharing protocols should be like sharing playlists or mixtapes :P | 20:53 |
| yashgaroth | you guys don't have electronic notebooks? | 20:53 |
| kanzure | academic labs have tons of paper notebooks flying around | 20:54 |
| yashgaroth | poor bastards | 20:54 |
| kanzure | openwetware.org was able to get lots of igem teams to host their notebooks on wikis | 20:54 |
| n_bentha | gtg | 20:55 |
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| kanzure | i think it might be possible to algorithmically fix protocols with the right sort of data/ratings about what works/doesn't work | 20:57 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: would you consider some protocols harder than others? | 20:58 |
| yashgaroth | sure, making buffer is a lot easier than anything in a TC hood | 20:59 |
| yashgaroth | but that's more about skill/experience than, like, harder to comprehend | 20:59 |
| delinquentme | pakistani death metal ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8fXFecuptY | 21:00 |
| delinquentme | reminiscent of lamb of god | 21:00 |
| yashgaroth | even the most cutting-edge protocols in wetwork are still 'mix A into B, stir, incubate 8 hours' | 21:00 |
| roksprok_ | in industry do people normally get plugged into a niche where they are doing the same/similar things and kind of stop paying much attention to protocols? | 21:00 |
| kanzure | yeah, it's not like you're doing a different protocol every day | 21:01 |
| yashgaroth | yes, especially with large comapnies | 21:01 |
| kanzure | even in a lab your project will probably require you to pick a pcr method and stick to it until it works | 21:01 |
| yashgaroth | or until it doesn't work :V | 21:02 |
| kanzure | yeah but you have to prove it either way :p | 21:02 |
| delinquentme | oo so i should be paying attention here | 21:03 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, what is cutting edge about 'mix A into B, stir, incubate 8 hours' | 21:04 |
| yashgaroth | the composition of A and B, usually | 21:04 |
| kanzure | strawman.. i don't think yashgaroth claimed it was cutting edge | 21:04 |
| delinquentme | thats a liquid handling problem is it not? | 21:04 |
| yashgaroth | sure, but pulling tubes out of a centrifuge and then manipulating them is beyond most liquid handlers, at least those more expensive than lab techs | 21:05 |
| delinquentme | mix up the compositions of A and B in diff proportions | 21:05 |
| delinquentme | yeah thats a robot arm | 21:05 |
| yashgaroth | lab automation is a separate issue than compiling protocols | 21:06 |
| kanzure | lab protocols is an issue of institutional knowledge | 21:07 |
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| kanzure | "Thinking about starting a Fantasy Infringement League. Draft a suit/side and points = $ value the court awards. Who's in? Who's the #1 pick?" | 21:08 |
| yashgaroth | well the methodmint protocol for un-cryopreserving cells is terrible | 21:11 |
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| delinquentme | yashgaroth, but good codified protocols is a step in the direction of automation | 21:12 |
| yashgaroth | sure, but programming in which reagents to use will take less time than programming how the arm moves | 21:13 |
| yashgaroth | wow this 10x tris buffer protocol is even shittier | 21:13 |
| yashgaroth | side note, a lot of labs will use default protocols from the reagent supplier, which is usually freely available | 21:15 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, why is it an arm? | 21:18 |
| delinquentme | :D | 21:18 |
| delinquentme | its cool im just going to lead you to the conclusion of my liquid handler | 21:18 |
| yashgaroth | 'appendage' sounds too much like a penis reference | 21:19 |
| delinquentme | haha but assuming inverse kinematics to layout the physical movements is | 21:19 |
| delinquentme | overly complex | 21:19 |
| delinquentme | is it not simply up down .. move plate .. up down move plate | 21:19 |
| delinquentme | thats a silly scientist problem | 21:20 |
| delinquentme | they're used to robot arms doing it ... dont model it after a scientist doing the movement | 21:20 |
| delinquentme | make it an assembly line | 21:20 |
| yashgaroth | we barely have interchangeable parts, much less assembly lines | 21:21 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, " An open letter to Ycombinator: Why you'd be retarded not to fund us " | 21:21 |
| delinquentme | ja? | 21:21 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, true! | 21:22 |
| roksprok_ | delinquentme: does ycombinator do hardware? | 21:22 |
| delinquentme | why does everyone think that thats a valid distinction? | 21:23 |
| delinquentme | make it about money | 21:23 |
| delinquentme | not hardware | 21:23 |
| delinquentme | they get that | 21:23 |
| delinquentme | =] | 21:23 |
| roksprok_ | actually there is a job posting for an embedded electronics person...something to do with cars | 21:24 |
| roksprok_ | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3911781 | 21:24 |
| delinquentme | ? | 21:24 |
| roksprok_ | so i guess they will do it | 21:25 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: why would YC fund you? are you making money? do you have traction? do you have business? | 21:25 |
| delinquentme | Im just saying its a good idea | 21:25 |
| kanzure | it's a good idea for you, but it's a huge risk to YC until you answer those questions | 21:25 |
| delinquentme | also those arent prereqs for ycomb | 21:26 |
| kanzure | they will do whatever they want, but they probably don't want a loser | 21:26 |
| kanzure | you're not a loser but a business with no money, no traction, no growth plan, no customers, no plans for customers, etc., is not a good business to fund | 21:26 |
| kanzure | they claim to accept idealess teams but obviously they do scrutinize teams very harshly | 21:28 |
| delinquentme | well | 21:28 |
| delinquentme | they're wise ish to think in heuristics | 21:29 |
| delinquentme | but when there is no precedent | 21:29 |
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| delinquentme | fenn_, does you have experience in accelerating steppers through resonance points? | 21:39 |
| kanzure | oh right it's his birthday | 21:41 |
| delinquentme | HAPPY BDAY FENN~ | 21:42 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, http://pastie.org/3852130 | 21:43 |
| delinquentme | UI drag / drop elements to generate the above code | 21:44 |
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| delinquentme | which would represent an actual codified protocol | 21:44 |
| kanzure | i don't think it should be source code | 21:46 |
| kanzure | because what if you want to use n+1 agents | 21:46 |
| kanzure | i don't think ui matters much.. most researchers don't care about graphics | 21:48 |
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| kanzure | well, at least your code isn't as bad as the microsoft stuff | 21:58 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, I think the issue is that UI is easy to sell | 22:01 |
| delinquentme | and its a solid gateway to get the to work with the code | 22:01 |
| delinquentme | training wheels | 22:01 |
| delinquentme | I think you and I look at code differently than scientists | 22:01 |
| delinquentme | they see code and groan | 22:02 |
| kanzure | what do you mean "easy sell".. who are you selling to | 22:03 |
| delinquentme | theres prob about 6 different people who will b e signing off on a purchase like this | 22:03 |
| delinquentme | and a UI is a simple way to differentiate from windows based box UI cruft | 22:04 |
| kanzure | ok are you talking about a liquid handler? | 22:04 |
| kanzure | and if so did you get your list of 15-20 people to say they'll buy one? | 22:05 |
| delinquentme | yeah and yeah! | 22:05 |
| delinquentme | actually I came up with a sales pitch | 22:06 |
| delinquentme | and i've asked a few decent companies :D | 22:06 |
| kanzure | you got people to say yes? | 22:06 |
| kanzure | who? | 22:06 |
| delinquentme | nah ;D | 22:06 |
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| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: faa73c5 investigating scripts from a known address | 22:10 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: 6973ec8 figuring out where a script appears based on a known address | 22:10 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: f51cde7 show the map event header in the readme | 22:10 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: 6ec59c8 get_dependencies does not return a list of labels nor strings | 22:11 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: b871e6c map_name -> map_id | 22:11 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: d1ddb59 investigating bytes in the ROM | 22:11 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: 220a9d8 formatting? | 22:11 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: b1d25e0 nope.. more formatting | 22:11 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: 404dca1 slightly improved example | 22:11 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: ea379f3 fix language specifier | 22:11 |
| gnusha_ | pokecrystal.git: f2b0779 fix typo in readme | 22:11 |
| kanzure | oh jeeze how do i stop this | 22:11 |
| kanzure | i've removed the hook | 22:11 |
| kanzure | so that shouldn't happen in the future | 22:12 |
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| delinquentme | y comb backs startups of 1 person! | 22:46 |
| delinquentme | PG said 4 is too many | 22:46 |
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| kanzure | heh "audio adderall" | 23:36 |
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