2012-05-03.log

--- Log opened Thu May 03 00:00:59 2012
Utopiahhttp://www.elpistheory.info Extreme Lifespans through Perpetual-equalising Interventions (ELPIs)00:02
kanzureeh?00:03
jennicidehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tlhMRoNJrs00:07
kanzurewhat is it?00:07
jennicideprobably the best thing ever00:07
delinquentmejennicide, listen00:17
delinquentmethat00:17
delinquentmeTHAT is a mashu[00:17
delinquentmeand THAT is illegal ok?00:17
jennicideits true00:17
jennicidei reject your reality and substitute my own00:17
delinquentmeha!00:18
delinquentmejennicide, sorry no catholics00:18
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kanzurebeepity boop01:30
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UtopiahRetention of Memory through Metamorphosis: Can a Moth Remember What It Learned As a Caterpillar? http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.000173604:29
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kanzurebeep bop07:23
JayDuggerGood morning.07:23
JayDuggerWhen did you learn the binary language of moisture evaporators?07:23
kanzuresomewhere between my 341st and 519th viewing of star wars07:28
JayDuggerLet me know when you master the encrypted telepathy of Hodgson's "The Night Land."07:28
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kanzurehttp://freerangelibrarian.com/2010/03/07/it-aint-easy-being-oclc/08:54
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kanzuredelinquentme: i forgot to mention that i'm reasonably good friends with some peeps at mendeley09:21
kanzurethey want a sample of our index09:24
kanzureoh wow i didn't know about their web importer.. http://www.mendeley.com/import/09:25
kanzurehttp://www.prismstandard.org/specifications/prism1.asp09:36
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delinquentmethats sweet10:16
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@kanzurefenn: hi13:05
@kanzurenmz787 left some messages in the backlog for you and some commits13:05
@kanzurealso.. happy birthday13:05
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fennthanks13:12
fenni'm not sure what he meant about adding the plates, the file laser_etcher.txt isn't where we have been keeping the BOM up to date13:12
@kanzurethe google spreadsheet could probably be dumped into a .csv or .xls file into the repo now that nmz787 is okay with git13:13
fennok will do that13:14
@kanzurehttp://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3925452 ?-s may expose php source code13:44
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fenngot a crapton of herbs today from http://sfherb.com - i really recommend their wun yu green tea, which is stupid cheap http://www.sfherb.com/store/FullView.asp?URLStr=29014:23
fennalso their turmeric looks to be the good (longevity) kind, not the bright yellow kind14:24
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nshthere's tumeric that,,, goes off?14:26
fennnsh: no, i mean the turmeric is used for increasing lifespan, not for making food look pretty14:51
nshoh, right14:53
fenntypically growers will harvest turmeric earlier(?) in its lifecycle, when it's more yellow colored, but has less curcumin14:54
* nsh nods14:54
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delinquentmeanyone in here apply for SBIR grants?15:08
delinquentmefenn, stepper acceleration15:08
delinquentmehave you worked w these?15:08
delinquentmekanzure, SBIR15:09
fennyou can get stepper driver modules that have resonance compensation, i.e. gecko15:09
fennor you can add mechanical damping to the motor15:09
fennor you can just not worry about it15:09
@kanzuregovt money? i don't want a loan15:09
fennresonance is not as bad if you're microstepping15:09
delinquentmeso I've got an arduino lib which can accelerate through it but im not sure about its robustness15:10
delinquentmekanzure, its a grant15:10
fennare you actually losing steps due to resonance?15:10
fennit could be friction/binding in your mechanism15:10
fennor just bad acceleration settings15:11
delinquentme1) whats the ceiling cap on the speed past the resonant point15:11
delinquentmeis it just how fast the motor can step with its given voltage?15:12
delinquentmephysically* step15:12
fennpretty much15:15
fennyou run into iron losses eventually15:15
fennthen the insulation melts and bang15:15
delinquentmecheck15:16
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@kanzurethat new php exploit is amazing15:41
@kanzurehttp://isp.ust.hk/cgi-bin/connectdb.php?-s15:41
@kanzureoh god15:41
@kanzurehttp://help.station.sony.com/cgi-bin/soe.cfg/php/enduser/live.php?-s15:41
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fennwhat, you just type -s after the url and it spews passwords at you?15:42
@kanzureyes15:43
yashgarothha15:43
yashgarothoh no did clicking that link make me a hacker? I don't even have a gibson15:45
nsh...15:52
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@kanzurehttps://help.overstock.com/app/contact_page?-s15:54
nshhttp://eindbazen.net/2012/05/php-cgi-advisory-cve-2012-1823/15:59
nshphp is a constant source of marvel and pity15:59
@kanzurehttp://support.snapfish.com/app/answers/preview_detail/a_id/733/brand/3/?-s16:02
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@kanzurehttp://help.vodafone.co.nz/app/topics?-s16:04
fennare these urls particularly interesting? i mean, what would i do with a .nz vodaphone account16:07
fawwopoor php16:11
fennthe high school makerspace requirements looks pretty well done to me. (do the example links in the pdf work for anyone else?)16:17
@kanzurethere is some concern on the hackerspaces mailing list that o'reilly is going to go evil and make this a trademark thing16:19
@kanzurethey do have some language in the doc to suggest they are trying to control what sorta products schools buy (makerbot, makezine, etc.)16:19
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delinquentmehttp://www.funsci.com/fun3_en/uzoom/uzoom.htm  DIY sterio microscope16:33
delinquentmestereo **16:33
@kanzurewell that was fun16:42
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JayDuggerCheer up.16:53
JayDuggerWould you be interested in a second-hand decommissioned missile base as a second home?16:53
JayDuggerHow about a sysadmin job in MD with General Dynamics?16:55
JayDuggerI think their line about a TS/SCI with polygraph purely a formality.16:55
@kanzurehow much is the missile base?16:56
JayDuggerWhich one?16:56
JayDuggerhttp://www.missilebases.com/properties16:56
yashgarothit's not a formality16:56
@kanzureah yes those16:56
@kanzurei have been looking at those16:56
Mokbortolan_I'll take the sysadmin job17:04
Mokbortolan_as long as its at least 80/hr17:05
JayDuggerIf you're serious, I'll send you a link in PM. yashgaroth has it right, despite my joke.17:05
Mokbortolan_Ok17:05
JayDuggerTS/SCI w/polygraph sucks, I'm told17:05
Mokbortolan_I previously had secret17:05
* Mokbortolan_ isn't afraid of a polygraph.17:05
yashgarothof course it pays well, they make weapons17:06
JayDuggerOr it might just be an intelligence community IT support job.17:06
yashgarothmy roommate works there with a bachelor's in CS, but doing drone radar stuff17:08
JayDuggerPlease encourage him to do good work.17:08
yashgaroththat's what the money is for17:09
JayDuggerThe advancing state of the art in RPVs will soon enough hit general aviation, and the sooner the better.17:09
@kanzurewut? so this time the beam system raised $100k17:21
@kanzurehttp://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ttstam/openbeam-an-open-source-miniature-construction-sys17:21
JayDuggerPerhaps they will have something to ship this time.17:21
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@kanzureanother scaremongering attempt from our buddies at PBS17:56
@kanzurehttp://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/jan-june12/makingsense_04-26.html17:56
@kanzure"hmm.. well it sounds like our views were misrepresented again. I don't think anyone is claiming that it is possible to stop new viruses from being created. So what did this reporter think he was doing ? Giving us another biology update? Yep, still biology guys."17:57
@kanzure"a high-level consultant to the US government and INTERPOL"17:58
@kanzure"high-level" hahah17:58
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kanzurehttp://www.scienceforums.net/topic/66172-isolation-of-transcription-enzymes/20:21
yashgarothwtf20:23
kanzurehaha20:25
kanzure"then you need a technique to synthesis telomerase from the polymerase"20:25
yashgarothhe says "the amino acids in the DNA" a lot20:26
kanzure<320:27
yashgarothsomeone saying 'telomerase' in almost any context is a strong warning sign, though in this case it was quite obvious before he says that20:28
kanzureoh geeze cloud plm http://www.arenasolutions.com/20:47
kanzurehrm20:47
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kanzurehi klafka20:56
klafkahey!20:57
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kanzurehi juul21:03
kanzurewe might be getting some contacts at common crawl21:03
kanzureand mendeley21:03
Juulhi kanzure21:03
Juuloh nice21:03
Juuli21:03
Juuloops21:03
Juuli'm slightly drunk21:03
Juuljust came back from endy lab beer thing21:04
kanzurethe best time to code21:04
kanzureand/or yell at people on irc21:04
yashgarothhey do you know william gunn at mendeley?21:04
Juulkanzure, WE NEED MORE BITS! MOOOOORE BIIIIIIITS!!!21:04
kanzureindeed sir21:04
kanzureyashgaroth: yes21:04
kanzureyashgaroth: i was talking with him today actually21:04
yashgarothah I met him here a week ago, also while drunk21:04
yashgarothdiybio chat and such21:04
kanzurei bump into him at random conferences21:05
yashgarothyeah I think he was in town for the experimental bio conference21:05
kanzurehuh?21:06
kanzuredid you just bump into him at a bar?21:06
Juuli think i may have found a forgotten room at stanford that i can occupy and use as a bedroom21:06
yashgarothsome biotech networking thing that happened to coincide with the conference21:06
kanzureyashgaroth: i was gonna say.. if you ran into him at a bar then you are drinking too much hahah21:06
kanzurelike when your social networks start expanding that much21:07
kanzureby random bar hopping. yeah..21:07
yashgarothheh no, though it was at a brewery...they like to have the events at breweries21:07
klafkawhen is the diybio thing happening?21:11
kanzurejune 12-17ish21:12
kanzurethere will be a pow-wow on the 16th for non-attendees21:12
yashgarothdamn right21:13
klafkacool21:21
Juul"Venter, cracker of the human genome code"21:27
Juulwut21:27
kanzurehahah21:27
kanzurecracka21:27
kanzure"In the 90s, this totally l33t white cracka totally busted up the human genome"21:27
Juulaw yis21:27
klafkaLOL21:33
klafkahow do you specify a branch whe you do a git pull ?21:39
kanzuregit pull origin branchname21:39
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kanzurebattelle is an odd organization22:22
kanzurewhy are they a nonprofit?22:22
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kanzurej/win 722:44
kanzureJIDOKJK22:44
kanzurejrayhawk: you didn't see that22:44
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