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| Utopiah | http://theassc.org/conferences_assc16 | 03:56 |
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| strangewarp | Hmmm | 05:07 |
| strangewarp | Being told that I must graciously accept my sleep disorder, because if I want to cure it, that means I am thinking of myself as /defective/, which is merely internalized ableism | 05:10 |
| strangewarp | I disagree with this, obviously, in case my sarcasm didn't come through | 05:20 |
| @kanzure | "The Personal Genome Project has a couple participants who have donated their 23andme exome data to be public through our IRB-approved open consent process. You can find the VCF files linked as "source data" from their genome reports here: http://evidence.personalgenomes.org/genomes and also on their profile pages (e.g. https://my.personalgenomes.org/profile/hu97DB4A)." | 05:51 |
| @kanzure | http://opensnp.wordpress.com/2012/05/31/support-for-23andme-exome-data/ | 05:52 |
| @kanzure | http://opensnp.org/data/42.23andme-exome-vcf.205 | 05:52 |
| @kanzure | "and if you happen to be on the West Coast, our Bioluminescence community project at BioCurious meets every Monday evening at 7:30. And I'll be teaching a class on bioluminescent dinoflagellates this Wednesday!" | 05:59 |
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| @kanzure | sometimes i feel like doc brown in the old west, except when did i agree to shoeing horses or fixing wagons? | 06:50 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: incoming.. | 09:35 |
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| @kanzure | "The Joint Science and Technology Office (JSTO) within the U.S. Department of Defense's Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) cordially invite you to attend a Citizen Science Forum. The purpose of the forum is for DTRA to share its technical goals and to assess the current state of accomplishment within the field of citizen science or DIY biology" | 09:35 |
| yashgaroth | well that second part shouldn't take very long | 09:36 |
| @kanzure | yes, presentations are limited to 3 minutes each | 09:37 |
| yashgaroth | oh I was gonna go with "not much beyond some glowy bacteria and some openpcr stuff" | 09:37 |
| @kanzure | i think the pipetting robots, operational dna sequencers, etc., are way more impressive than openpcr? | 09:38 |
| @kanzure | or cory's extremophile project, even. | 09:38 |
| yashgaroth | meh | 09:39 |
| Mariu | JSTO sounds like the thing that supervided Adam Savege character that he played in the documentary "Can we live forever ?" | 09:39 |
| yashgaroth | wait 3 minutes? how do I explain the intricate myostatin-follistatin-ActRIIB pathway in 3 minutes | 09:39 |
| @kanzure | yashgaroth: also, you are limited to 2 slides per presentation | 09:40 |
| @kanzure | better register a block of 10 presentations | 09:40 |
| yashgaroth | are they separate from the 10-minute ones during the main meeting, or is everyone doing a hypershort version too | 09:41 |
| @kanzure | this is the separate "defense threat reduction agency" meeting | 09:42 |
| yashgaroth | right, but who are they selecting to present there? | 09:43 |
| @kanzure | check your inbox | 09:44 |
| @kanzure | "To submit an entry".. how cute. | 09:45 |
| yashgaroth | I hope there's prizes | 09:45 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: check out how segregated that "To:" and "CC:" fields are in the email | 09:47 |
| @kanzure | heh | 09:47 |
| @kanzure | one list: all these random personal email addresses | 09:47 |
| dixiebassline | youll be lucky if the lunch is decent | 09:47 |
| yashgaroth | wtf why is Navar Inc. running it | 09:47 |
| @kanzure | second list: @ic.fbi.gov, @state.gov, @dtra.gov, @various-imposing-military-addresses | 09:47 |
| @kanzure | what is navar? | 09:47 |
| @kanzure | oh oops | 09:48 |
| @kanzure | @dtra.mil ;) | 09:48 |
| yashgaroth | section 3, her email is @navaranc.com | 09:48 |
| @kanzure | oh, i thought you recognized it | 09:48 |
| yashgaroth | are they a government front company or something | 09:49 |
| @kanzure | no it's probably just some random temp agency, services company, some crap like that | 09:49 |
| yashgaroth | hmm | 09:50 |
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| dixiebassline | sup augur | 11:44 |
| dixiebassline | we get around the same places alot it seems | 11:44 |
| augur | dixiebassline: do we? | 12:42 |
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| @kanzure | http://schaechter.asmblog.org/ might be ok | 14:20 |
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| yashgaroth | oh god more shit about making bacteria lose their antibiotic resistance | 14:33 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: intentionally? what | 14:33 |
| yashgaroth | okay we'll make them sensitive to antibiotics, and all we have to do is add in [different resistance gene]...what could possibly go wrong | 14:33 |
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| yashgaroth | aside from resistant bacteria picking up the extra resistance gene | 14:34 |
| @kanzure | what are hospitals doing about their super-resistant persistent infections anyway? | 14:35 |
| @kanzure | like on their equipment/floors | 14:35 |
| yashgaroth | bleach | 14:35 |
| @kanzure | ok. let's use that more. | 14:35 |
| yashgaroth | same stuff that smarmy fuck was trying to do, that guy who thiel's giving money to | 14:35 |
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| yashgaroth | it might just work if we carefully control the use...but if we could do that, we wouldn't have antibiotic resistant bacteria in the first place | 14:36 |
| @kanzure | how about fire? | 14:37 |
| @kanzure | if we just burn everything? | 14:37 |
| yashgaroth | might upset the patients, but I can't see a serious downside | 14:37 |
| @kanzure | oh well yeah, the patients would have to be burned too | 14:37 |
| yashgaroth | whiny plague vectors that they are | 14:38 |
| @kanzure | *shrug* hospital efficiency at its finest | 14:38 |
| yashgaroth | the other stuff on that page is more reassuring, though | 14:40 |
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| @kanzure | anyone know of a study of eidetic memory in people with glasses? | 18:18 |
| @kanzure | ah neat, | 18:20 |
| @kanzure | "The genetic enhancement of memory" | 18:20 |
| @kanzure | http://resources.metapress.com/pdf-preview.axd?code=231gge95h5wf2qk6&size=largest | 18:20 |
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| @kanzure | hi not_unoriginal | 20:13 |
| not_unoriginal | hey there, kanzure | 20:15 |
| not_unoriginal | I saw this channel in the topic of #reddit-nootropics | 20:15 |
| AdrianG | yes me too | 20:15 |
| @kanzure | huh. nice of them to do that. | 20:16 |
| @kanzure | not_unoriginal: unfortunately not everyone walks around with rfid | 20:18 |
| @kanzure | i think a more reliable solution is to just remember everyone | 20:18 |
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| not_unoriginal | agreed. | 20:19 |
| not_unoriginal | well, I mean... everyone? I do sales. Remembering everyone would suck. I'm not Funes, here. | 20:19 |
| @kanzure | not_unoriginal: unless you're meeting 20,000+ people/year, yes you can do that by memory | 20:20 |
| not_unoriginal | yup. | 20:20 |
| @kanzure | what's your throughput? | 20:20 |
| @kanzure | most salespeople i meet are assigned to a few accounts, and they stick with the same clients | 20:20 |
| not_unoriginal | I do Costco roadshows. | 20:20 |
| @kanzure | what. | 20:20 |
| not_unoriginal | for Blendtec. | 20:20 |
| not_unoriginal | so um define meeting, anyway. | 20:21 |
| @kanzure | i show up and talk with you | 20:21 |
| not_unoriginal | where'd you pull the 20k figure from, anyway? | 20:22 |
| @kanzure | i seem to have 12k/year throughput | 20:22 |
| @kanzure | and seem to do ok by memory, but there are some weird edge cases, like remembering random internet people from 2-3 years ago | 20:22 |
| @kanzure | esp. if i only interacted with them once | 20:22 |
| not_unoriginal | how do you meet 12k people by name ,per year? | 20:23 |
| @kanzure | at maximum i can do 25k/year but i have never had that happen ;) | 20:23 |
| not_unoriginal | * , per | 20:23 |
| @kanzure | well at max that's 70 people/day, which isn't that hard (conceptually) (but physically it can be draining i guess heh) | 20:23 |
| not_unoriginal | um yeah on a busy day I will easily do that, but I don't ask for everyone's name, etc. | 20:24 |
| @kanzure | why not? that's totally okay to ask for | 20:24 |
| @kanzure | that's almost as bad as not asking a girl for her numbers | 20:24 |
| not_unoriginal | because I don't remember it, of course. | 20:24 |
| @kanzure | maybe it was a boring person :3 | 20:24 |
| not_unoriginal | sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. it depends. | 20:24 |
| not_unoriginal | I know that names are the key to win friends and influence people | 20:25 |
| @kanzure | you should test that. | 20:26 |
| @kanzure | sounds bogus to me. | 20:26 |
| not_unoriginal | um, you've never read that book? | 20:26 |
| AdrianG | names are important | 20:26 |
| @kanzure | nope. :) | 20:27 |
| @kanzure | but i also doubt that the author kept a rigorous system | 20:27 |
| AdrianG | if you are a chick its important to touch ppl to win them over | 20:33 |
| @kanzure | as a chick, i find that wrong | 20:33 |
| AdrianG | it works | 20:40 |
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| @kanzure | http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/05/30/100-meter-cnc-machine/ | 20:58 |
| @kanzure | "Hey look, it can even mill out a little human figure!" | 20:59 |
| brownies | o.O | 21:02 |
| brownies | 20 thousand people per year? | 21:04 |
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| @kanzure | brownies: 70 * 365 => 25,550 | 21:14 |
| brownies | kanzure: are you counting IRC people as people or something | 21:17 |
| @kanzure | yes people are people | 21:17 |
| @kanzure | but i only count direct interactions | 21:18 |
| brownies | so right now we're having this conversation with 52 other people? -_- | 21:18 |
| brownies | oh, i see. | 21:18 |
| @kanzure | not incidental things like "people in my audience" or "people in an irc channel too" | 21:18 |
| @kanzure | today i've only been talking with 19 people, about 5 of those in person | 21:19 |
| @kanzure | so it's a sorta slow day | 21:19 |
| @kanzure | the 30th was 31 people though, that was sorta busy i guess | 21:20 |
| brownies | oh wait | 21:21 |
| @kanzure | you know what would make this conversation even more geeky? graphs. | 21:21 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/meetlog/2010-01-01_to_2010-03-01-lines2.png | 21:21 |
| brownies | so that's not 20K *uniques* | 21:21 |
| brownies | you're counting uniques per day and then summing | 21:21 |
| brownies | ? | 21:21 |
| @kanzure | sadly it is not uniques, i am so ashamed | 21:21 |
| @kanzure | it's accumulative. | 21:21 |
| brownies | ok | 21:21 |
| brownies | well in that case, it's much more reasonable | 21:21 |
| brownies | you could just talk to the same 20-50 people all day every day | 21:21 |
| @kanzure | (i don't) | 21:22 |
| brownies | well, tally up the uniques and let's see the % difference! | 21:22 |
| @kanzure | what's a measurement of variation for this? percent? | 21:22 |
| @kanzure | 7-day moving average of uniques? | 21:22 |
| brownies | how about just uniques in a given year | 21:23 |
| @kanzure | well i'd like to be able to more closely monitor it | 21:23 |
| brownies | monitor what, exactly? | 21:23 |
| @kanzure | like let's say i want to work up to 10 uniques/day | 21:23 |
| brownies | you didn't talk to 10 people today? o.O | 21:23 |
| @kanzure | erm, by uniques i mean .. uh.. unique-to-this-month | 21:23 |
| brownies | oh you mean 10 *new* people today | 21:23 |
| brownies | ok. | 21:23 |
| @kanzure | i talked to 19 different people, but i'm pretty sure like 10 of them i've talked to in the past week | 21:24 |
| brownies | do you just tally the # every day and throw out the rest of the data? o.O | 21:25 |
| @kanzure | brownies: have you ever watched that quantified self presentation i did | 21:25 |
| brownies | no | 21:26 |
| @kanzure | quantifiedself.com/2011/08/bryan-bishop-on-meetlog/ | 21:27 |
| @kanzure | blah | 21:27 |
| @kanzure | http://quantifiedself.com/2011/08/bryan-bishop-on-meetlog/ | 21:27 |
| @kanzure | i used to have this data hosted publicly but people started to bitch about it | 21:27 |
| @kanzure | brownies: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/meetlog/people/joseph_jackson.html | 21:27 |
| @kanzure | example: that's an accumulative weighted tag cloud from all conversations with jojack | 21:28 |
| @kanzure | uh, up to 2010-something | 21:28 |
| @kanzure | haven't regenerated that file in a while | 21:28 |
| brownies | what graphing software is this btw? | 21:30 |
| brownies | in the video | 21:31 |
| not_unoriginal | kanzure: http://metatalk.metafilter.com/14894/Ten-days-on-mefi | 21:31 |
| @kanzure | brownies: graphviz | 21:33 |
| @kanzure | i am old school like the cool school | 21:33 |
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| not_unoriginal | http://mlkshk.com/r/GC3L | 23:39 |
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