2012-06-11.log

--- Log opened Mon Jun 11 00:00:37 2012
sylph_makoDoes anyone remember the name of that city which didn't appear to be built for humans?00:10
UtopiahBrasilia?00:10
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strangewarpThe Chaco Canyon pueblo complexes? Although it was probably a forced-tribute architectural project extorted out of slaves..00:12
sylph_mako-_- no. Like. Ancient ruins; unnavigable without climbing gear, apparently by design. Might be a crock but I have a WHACKY THEORY I want to investigate if it's not.00:12
strangewarpOh, not Chaco Canyon then00:12
sylph_makoThat was in reply to an earlier comment.00:13
* strangewarp nods00:13
strangewarpChaco Canyon is mostly flat though, which is why I say it can't be that :p00:14
UtopiahMachu Picchu?00:26
sylph_makoseems unlikely.00:35
sylph_makoAt least most of it is hospitable.00:36
strangewarpIf it's Mesa Verde, they already probably figured it out - it was built as a last line of defense against a rampaging band of Aztecs, probably by the descendents of the people who were probably enslaved to build the Chaco Canyon pueblo complexes00:37
* strangewarp lots of "probably" caveats, since there is still some controversy I think00:39
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delinquentmeanyone happen to have the research paper on whatever process was used to get insulin from microbes?11:26
delinquentmewas this written about in a research paper?11:26
chris_99are you thinking of that video a while back11:30
chris_99because what he did wasn't actually creating insulin11:30
chris_99it was an 'art' project apparently11:30
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delinquentmechris_99, I can think of one video which was on jalopnik or something that was makin prozack or something12:03
delinquentmeIs there some hello world for novel compound creation in yeast?12:03
chris_99oh yeah it was prozac12:04
chris_99i'd be interested in that too delinquentme12:04
chris_99just bought a book about yeast12:04
delinquentmechris_99, I've got some in my freezer :D12:04
chris_99for what?12:05
delinquentmeand a bunch of 96 well microplates12:05
chris_99ooh cool12:05
delinquentmebaking I think lol12:05
chris_99nice, i do brewing12:05
delinquentmeyou know about the iGem group that put resveratrol into beer right?12:05
chris_99nope12:05
delinquentmegoogle that shit!12:05
delinquentmei think it was last years iGem12:06
chris_99very interesting, so it extends the life of yeast?12:06
delinquentmebewm!12:06
delinquentmehttp://www.iptv.org/exploremore/ge/what/insulin.cfm12:06
chris_99cool12:07
@kanzureupdate: walnut creek sucks12:25
jrayhawki bet it's not even made of walnuts :mad:12:25
@kanzurein a walut up a creek without a paddle12:25
@kanzure.. i a walutshell12:25
@kanzure*in a walnutshell12:25
@kanzurei kept trying to think of brilliant walnut/creek jokes, but i've got nothing yet12:26
@kanzurebut it's def. nice to see the FBI go all out on a 1-star hotel12:26
jrayhawkthe GSA took all the nice ones12:28
@kanzurehttp://images.memegenerator.net/instances/21869192.jpg12:29
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@kanzurelolz it's just raining money in SF isn't it?13:36
@kanzure(nailed another contract; haven't been here for long)13:36
@kanzurein other news: turtles fall out of love after 115 years http://news.discovery.com/animals/tortoise-couple-breaks-up-120611.html (yes i'm kidding, i don't expect any of you to click)13:47
_Sketch_kanzure: What do you do for work?14:23
@kanzuresit around naked all day14:24
@kanzuremostly software contracting- web apps, mobile apps, the works14:25
_Sketch_aha.14:26
_Sketch_Dangit. Is all mind-mapping software in Java? :(14:26
@kanzuremind-mapping software tends to suck immensely14:27
_Sketch_WikkaWiki is PHP! yaaaaay14:27
_Sketch_So it would seem, kanzure.14:27
_Sketch_I could write my own... amazing, programming is like having superpowers. ;)14:28
_Sketch_But I'm pressed for time, so searching is way easier. Hee.14:29
@kanzurei don't think php is the right solution for your problem14:37
@kanzurebut i you are married to php, i think semanticmediawiki has some silly mindmapping mod/plugin thing14:37
@kanzure*if you are14:37
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_Sketch_'yaaaay' being entirely sarcastic.14:44
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@kanzuresomeone was asking for the current location of a library genesis..14:50
@kanzurehttp://libgen.info/14:50
@kanzure"Wow, I love my room btw. I've got a sliding glass door that leads out directly to the pool area. I'm thinking after-hours get togethers. :-)"15:06
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@kanzure1) is he coming on to me15:06
@kanzure2) why does he get the cool room >:(15:07
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chris_99do you use Flask kanzure?15:18
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@kanzurechris_99: sometimes, but not on anything in production at the moment15:32
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chris_99aha cool, i've just started using it, i've had to give up on Play unfortunately do to memory issues15:32
@kanzureMagic-Smoke: are you the magic smoke that keeps escaping my resistors?15:32
@kanzurechris_99: give django a shot15:32
@kanzurechris_99: and then repent and learn rails/sinatra anyway15:33
chris_99django/rails are too heavy weight for what i need15:33
@kanzurehave you used them before?15:33
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chris_99i've looked into them15:33
chris_99but not used them15:33
@kanzurethe biggest shock to me when i picked up rails was how many more gems and plugins there were than for django.15:37
@kanzureflask is more similar to sinatra, of course15:37
chris_99because i've only got a limited amount of ram i want something that's as small as possible really15:39
@kanzurejrayhawk: so, i made a merge commit in a feature branch a few weeks ago, committed a bunch of new stuff, and now want to rebase on master instead of merging things around15:42
@kanzurejrayhawk: how do i correct this? i have to "undo" my merge from a thousand commits ago?15:42
@kanzureor is the solution something else15:42
jrayhawkwell, the 'i don't have a particular reason to give a shit about the history' approach is to revert it15:57
jrayhawkif this is an educational exercise or an excersize in pedanticism you can rebase or filter-branch depending on exactly what it is you want16:00
@kanzurei'd like to keep the work i did, heh16:00
@kanzurebasically i want to pretend like i was rebasing on top o master the entire time, instead of that nasty merge commit in the iddle.16:01
jrayhawkyeah, that's rebase's job16:01
@kanzuresomeone else requested this; i convinced him that this isn't necessary.. but now i'm wondering how i would do it anyway.16:01
@kanzure*on top of16:01
@kanzureok16:01
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delinquentmeI think the term " hit site " that I've been using is incorrect17:06
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delinquentmeanyways I'm looking for a program that I could compare a list of chemicals to a binding site for possible candidates17:07
@kanzureCHARMM.17:07
@kanzureor other molecular physics simulators.17:07
delinquentmeso like17:10
delinquentmeI need to do folding type processing to get out candidates?17:11
@kanzurefolding is only for folding amino acids into proteins17:12
delinquentmebiobricks dont happen to have their yield molecules in that database do they?17:14
delinquentmebc I'd need those to run the site matching17:14
@kanzurewhat?17:14
delinquentmeof the "hit sites"17:14
delinquentmelike where the molecules would bind to one another17:14
@kanzurebiobricks can't do "yields" because that entirely depends on the circuit, not the component17:15
@kanzurethe binding sites are annotated in pdb and on some ncbi somewhere, probably entrez17:15
@kanzure*on some ncbi site somewhere17:15
delinquentmeso it would be more what that gene codes for17:15
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@kanzurewhat are you doing?17:16
delinquentmebiobricks contains genes as well17:16
delinquentmeI'm trying to put together a simple example of picking out a molecule from the KEGG database17:16
delinquentmeand then matching it with some new gene to make a novel modification17:16
@kanzuredo you mean a protein?17:16
@kanzureok. so you want to find proteins that bind together?17:17
delinquentmeyeah17:17
@kanzurelook up cofactors or ligand binding17:17
delinquentmewhat they make is totally arbitrary so long as whatever protein the new gene codes for is non-naturally occuring17:18
delinquentmeand it reacts with / matches the selected protein yield from the normal Ecoli pathway17:18
@kanzureok then that is called "rational protein design" or "rational protein engineering"17:18
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delinquentmekk17:20
delinquentmebe back later17:20
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fennarchels: http://nipo1987.web.fc2.com/RRK.html18:21
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