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| kovalezko | what about this .. Piracetam with calcium is more effective? | 00:07 |
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| brownies | it is? | 00:08 |
| kovalezko | I read this from a forum, someone said it, u can google ' piracetam how to get all the benefits from it' | 00:22 |
| strangewarp | sounds legit | 00:26 |
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| Coornail | yeah, some people take it with milk | 02:08 |
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| foucist | careful to keep your daily calcium dose under 250mg or you'll end up with osteoporosis eventually | 03:03 |
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| nmz787 | hello? | 05:04 |
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| * chido waves | 05:12 | |
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| nmz787 | hi chido | 05:46 |
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| @kanzure | hm | 06:05 |
| @kanzure | http://nemaload.davidad.net/ | 06:05 |
| nmz787 | ? | 06:13 |
| nmz787 | things to come? | 06:13 |
| nmz787 | man NYC is all grey and raining | 06:13 |
| nmz787 | and i don't know if i can hang out at genspace all the time or not | 06:14 |
| foucist | nmz787: excuses | 06:16 |
| foucist | man up.. buy a $200 tent and camp out at genspace | 06:16 |
| nmz787 | well, i'd like to actually be /in/ genspace, not outside in a tent | 06:19 |
| nmz787 | if i needed a tent, i could be in some mountain wilderness somewhere | 06:19 |
| @kanzure | http://www.noisemademedoit.com/dial-up-modem-slowed/ | 06:19 |
| foucist | i don't know the particulars, just making shit up ;) | 06:19 |
| ThomasEgi | this audio.. sounds friggin beautyful | 06:31 |
| foucist | cuz it's mathematical | 06:38 |
| foucist | the music of FFTs | 06:38 |
| @fenn | i wish they hadn't pitch shifted it | 06:38 |
| nmz787 | doesnt it say they /didnt/ pitch shift it? | 06:48 |
| @fenn | this is what it should sound like: http://fennetic.net/irc/fax_0.01679616.wav | 06:52 |
| @fenn | unfortunately most recordings out there aren't high enough fidelity to preserve the higher frequency bands | 07:00 |
| @kanzure | fenn: you're an audiophil for the dialup sound | 07:05 |
| @kanzure | *audiophile | 07:06 |
| nmz787 | fenn: yeah i've got to say I can't hear too much in the non-shifted version | 07:08 |
| nmz787 | gah... why isn't genspace getting back to me? | 07:08 |
| @kanzure | i don't think genspace is big on the whole.. outsidr thing | 07:08 |
| @kanzure | *outsider | 07:08 |
| @fenn | they are probably just slow | 07:11 |
| @fenn | bah.. "synbiobridge" ought to be at noisebridge, but xp_prg fucked it all up | 07:11 |
| @kanzure | ellen was saying that out of everyone she knows, sung won lim is the one who has made the most progress in terms of learning lab techniques and "SCIENCE!" | 07:12 |
| @kanzure | but iirc sung did researcch at harvard? so it might be cheating | 07:12 |
| @kanzure | *who has made the most progress (at genspace) | 07:13 |
| @fenn | he was a physics major | 07:13 |
| @fenn | physicists tend to be good at learning new things, i've noticed | 07:13 |
| @fenn | "I kept asking myself why I didn’t go to a flight school instead of bothering with all this physics baloney." | 07:16 |
| nmz787 | i dont think sung has a degree tho | 07:21 |
| nmz787 | i think he stopped going to NYU or Columbia or something | 07:21 |
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| nmz787 | i just signed up on some NYC youth at risk program | 07:22 |
| nmz787 | to be a mentor | 07:22 |
| nmz787 | learn them kids how to pipette | 07:23 |
| nmz787 | "no no, you don't stab people with pipettors!" | 07:23 |
| nmz787 | "you could just slowly pipette their brain out, in a sterile fashion of course" | 07:23 |
| nmz787 | hey am i really an outsider though? | 07:24 |
| @kanzure | yes, you're diybio to them | 07:24 |
| nmz787 | i would pay the membership due to sit and code there | 07:24 |
| @fenn | oo scary | 07:24 |
| @kanzure | iirc they aren't as gung-ho about diybio people | 07:24 |
| nmz787 | huh? | 07:24 |
| nmz787 | how so? | 07:24 |
| @fenn | isnt 50% of their team on diybio? | 07:24 |
| @fenn | http://genspace.org/people | 07:25 |
| @kanzure | just daniel, ellen, russell, sung | 07:25 |
| @kanzure | and ellen hates email / hates meeting people over the internet | 07:26 |
| nmz787 | i've heard she's quite attentive to email | 07:26 |
| @kanzure | hmmm | 07:26 |
| nmz787 | moreso than others there | 07:26 |
| @fenn | well there you go | 07:26 |
| nmz787 | i think she may be out of country tho, at that TED thing? | 07:26 |
| nmz787 | i dunno really | 07:26 |
| @kanzure | ah right she was asking for us to mail stickers and shit | 07:27 |
| nmz787 | anyone ever hear of biotech jobs in portland oregon? | 07:27 |
| @kanzure | well let's ask our portlanders.. | 07:27 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: bkero: Mokbortolan_: i think that's you guyz | 07:27 |
| nmz787 | chandni has a job interview there, sooo, in a month that's where i may be | 07:27 |
| @kanzure | just to clarify: i don't have anything against genspace really :p | 07:44 |
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| @kanzure | fenn: what's up? | 07:46 |
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| jrayhawk | I'm not well versed on the topic, but OHSU seems to drive a lot of seems to drive a lot of economy around here | 08:55 |
| jrayhawk | biotech startups seem pretty common | 08:56 |
| jrayhawk | within that sphere, that is | 08:56 |
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| @kanzure | nanoengineer seems to run okay on ubuntu 7.10 | 09:03 |
| @kanzure | it looks like i have to set xauth cookies for both gnusha and my local laptop when i log into the chroot remotely | 09:05 |
| @kanzure | X Error: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) 10 | 09:17 |
| @kanzure | Major opcode: 10 (X_UnmapWindow) | 09:17 |
| @kanzure | Resource id: 0x101 | 09:17 |
| @kanzure | Shader setup failed: <graphics.drawing.ShaderGlobals.SphereShaderGlobals instance at 0xa7b614c> "To work around this error, we'll use non-shader drawing for spheres." | 09:18 |
| @kanzure | hrmm. that can't be good. | 09:18 |
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| bkero | There are plenty of biotech jobs around here | 09:25 |
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| @kanzure | oh look fenn is emailing again | 10:34 |
| @kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/openvirgle/msg/a64d16c4da89ad63 | 10:35 |
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| @kanzure | hi lichen, klafka, yashgaroth | 11:18 |
| lichen | hi | 11:19 |
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| nmz787 | cool, it sounds like portland is a bit more relaxed, and cheaper, than NYC | 13:10 |
| nmz787 | it /was/ sunny a minute ago, now in the distance is dark blue ??clouds?? | 13:10 |
| nmz787 | anyone in here know anyone/anything about nashville TN? | 13:14 |
| yashgaroth | I know one thing: don't move there | 13:15 |
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| nmz787 | why? | 13:19 |
| nmz787 | why not? | 13:19 |
| yashgaroth | boy you dun gonna get yerself in a mess'a trouble in nashville | 13:19 |
| yashgaroth | also I doubt there's any biotech | 13:20 |
| nmz787 | oh | 13:20 |
| nmz787 | i thought you meant portlad | 13:20 |
| nmz787 | nah was asking for a friend who's moving there | 13:20 |
| nmz787 | hah | 13:20 |
| yashgaroth | oh ok, heh | 13:20 |
| yashgaroth | portland has genentech, and a decent amount of startups | 13:21 |
| nmz787 | oh man, its gonna be soaking outside within a half hour i imagine | 13:21 |
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| * chido wants to move | 13:22 | |
| nmz787 | how do you make those stars chido? | 13:23 |
| * yashgaroth ? | 13:24 | |
| * chido isn't aware of making stars | 13:25 | |
| yashgaroth | I think he means the /me command | 13:26 |
| chido | aah | 13:26 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: with a star making machine. | 13:27 |
| * nmz787 been moving too much lately! | 13:27 | |
| nmz787 | lol | 13:27 |
| nmz787 | fusion! | 13:27 |
| nmz787 | oh god, its storming | 13:27 |
| nmz787 | i guess i won't be riding this http://www.coneyislandfunguide.com/Attraction/The-Cyclone-Rollercoaster.htm | 13:28 |
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| @kanzure | so i think i'm going to spend about $168,000 (not adjusted for inflation) on adderall over the next 70 years | 13:59 |
| @kanzure | (not adjusted for pharma inflation either) | 13:59 |
| @kanzure | surely it doesn't cost $168k to synthesize meth | 13:59 |
| yashgaroth | are you still buying brand-name? | 14:00 |
| @kanzure | no | 14:00 |
| @kanzure | btw the "brand name" (shire) is manufactured slightly differently and does have a notable effect difference | 14:00 |
| yashgaroth | so...are you not on health insurance, or will they just not pay for it? | 14:01 |
| @kanzure | i am on health insurance, but it costs me more throught hem | 14:01 |
| @kanzure | *through them | 14:01 |
| yashgaroth | hmm well I doubt they'll let you buy in bulk | 14:02 |
| @kanzure | right, so i should just make it mysel | 14:02 |
| @kanzure | *myself | 14:02 |
| yashgaroth | why not pay a visit to your friendly neighborhood meth lab | 14:03 |
| @kanzure | right | 14:04 |
| @kanzure | there are others like me paying $200/mo too | 14:04 |
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| yashgaroth | or...mexico? will they let you import it personally from there? | 14:04 |
| @kanzure | it would be easy to get some people together and dump $15,000/month into an adderall thing | 14:04 |
| @kanzure | perhaps kickstarter | 14:05 |
| yashgaroth | just switch to meth | 14:05 |
| roksprok | isn't there a generic adderall? | 14:05 |
| @kanzure | yes but it's still expensive | 14:05 |
| roksprok | well shucks | 14:06 |
| roksprok | is it easy to synthesize or are you better off just doing meth? | 14:07 |
| @kanzure | not sure. i haven't made meth yet. | 14:07 |
| roksprok | so how hard was adderall? | 14:08 |
| yashgaroth | you on IR or XR? should be relatively easy to conjugate meth to the XR molecules | 14:11 |
| @kanzure | i am on both | 14:12 |
| @kanzure | the release mechanism of the xr version is tricky to track down online | 14:12 |
| @kanzure | some proprietary bead tech thing | 14:12 |
| roksprok | i feel like the hard part is obtaining meth precursers, right? and aren't they all like, jail time for possession without a license? | 14:13 |
| @kanzure | i have a hard time believing they would jail me for making my own medication | 14:14 |
| yashgaroth | you can get ephedrine from canada, but it's a little hazy...they stopped selling all the "cough medicine" with ephedrine OTC this year though | 14:14 |
| yashgaroth | which sucks because it is super effective as a decongestant | 14:15 |
| yashgaroth | won't adderall eventually go even more generic though? | 14:18 |
| @kanzure | the pharmacies are claiming various shortages | 14:18 |
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| @kanzure | and there's wild price fluctuations between pharmacies | 14:18 |
| gl00m | you can get rx stuff from china | 14:19 |
| gl00m | customs will hold 1/4 | 14:19 |
| gl00m | and you keep the rest | 14:19 |
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| @kanzure | wrong/troll | 14:19 |
| @kanzure | when will he leave anyway :( | 14:19 |
| yashgaroth | I'd say +b, but then they come back angier with webirc | 14:21 |
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| @kanzure | hi mensch | 14:33 |
| @kanzure | mensch: did you go to the bosslab biotech bootcamp thing? | 14:33 |
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| mensch | No, but I'm planning on going to their meeting this Saturday | 14:37 |
| @kanzure | alright cool. as long as i have a man on the ground. | 14:38 |
| mensch | Haha, sure do. Likely my gf as well... | 14:40 |
| mensch | She's the biologist in training, I'm just the procrastinating mathematician | 14:40 |
| @kanzure | the best kind of mathematician! | 14:41 |
| mensch | Agree! | 14:41 |
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| roksprok | kanzure: have you heard any news re: halcyon? are they dead or did the split happen? | 15:07 |
| @kanzure | i heard they had a bbq the other week | 15:08 |
| roksprok | damn...no invite...jerks | 15:09 |
| * Mokbortolan_ writes Senseg for a dev kit - AGAIN. | 15:18 | |
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| @kanzure | http://techzinglive.com/page/1103/193-tz-interview-cathal-garvey-biohacking | 16:28 |
| @kanzure | (audio) | 16:29 |
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| @kanzure | http://soundcloud.com/techzing/techzing-193 | 16:30 |
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| pasky | kanzure: any tips regarding pokemon debugging? i'd like to stepi through few places in pokemon yellow but it is all getting rather unwieldy so i'm wondering if crosscompiling gdb for arm-thumb and using visualboyadvance gdb interface is really the way to go or if there are simpler options | 16:47 |
| pasky | also, it says in the howto "start gdb by passing the .elf file", but what is the elf file? | 16:49 |
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| @kanzure | pasky: i have never been able to get that gdb interface to work, but i would vastly prefer gdb over what i've been using | 17:05 |
| @kanzure | this is the awful crap i've been using for that.. http://bgb.bircd.org/ | 17:05 |
| @kanzure | also, iimagikarp/iimarckus in #skeetendo on nucleus.kafuka.org is a good resource to query | 17:06 |
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| @kanzure | hi megatherion_phd | 17:06 |
| megatherion_phd | yo | 17:06 |
| @kanzure | pasky: btw bgb runs pretty well under wine, but it's closed source which is why i'd absolutely prefer gdb. | 17:07 |
| pasky | kanzure: right.. i'd give gdb a shot but i'm clueless on how to generate the elf file to load there in the first place | 17:08 |
| pasky | i'd try vba's internal debugger but the sdl version just segfaults for me | 17:09 |
| @kanzure | pasky: check the README to pokered/pokecrystal.. they point to rgbasm and rgbds and whatever the linker is called. i think you could hack that into producing an elf file. | 17:09 |
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| @kanzure | also: rgbds is the most terrible compiler chain known to mankind. it's super buggy. i've been meaning to rewrite it. | 17:10 |
| @kanzure | i wrote a lexer in pokecrystal/extras/pkasm/lexer.py but i haven't done the other stuff yet. | 17:10 |
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| pasky | right.. well i'm doing just a one-time hack rather than a larger efforts so i think i'll switch to bgb now and try if i get anywhere with that | 17:11 |
| @kanzure | the bgb debugger is a little ridiculous to figure out, it has watchpoints hidden under some nth-layer menu (right click on game screen -> other -> debugger -> breakpoints -> active breakpoints -> set a read/write/execute watchpoint somewhere) | 17:12 |
| @kanzure | the source code to yellow is largely the same as redd | 17:13 |
| @kanzure | *red | 17:13 |
| @kanzure | https://bitbucket.org/iimarckus/pokered/src | 17:13 |
| pasky | ah, but bgb won't load vba's savegames? | 17:14 |
| @kanzure | it might, i dunno | 17:15 |
| @kanzure | if it doesn't, you can shark your way to wherever you were (look up gameshark codes to find RAM locations, set the values to whatever you want) | 17:16 |
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| pasky | my goal is to have mew appear in the grass in an arbitrary location :) | 17:16 |
| pasky | oh, good tip! | 17:16 |
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| @kanzure | ah, well, you can just edit the data structure in main.asm for that | 17:16 |
| @kanzure | then recompile | 17:17 |
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| pasky | well not for pokemon yellow | 17:17 |
| @kanzure | might be at the same place | 17:19 |
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| nmz787 | is fenn around? | 19:33 |
| nmz787 | fenn: helloooo? | 19:33 |
| @kanzure | well, he doesn't have an away message so he's probably around. | 19:33 |
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| @kanzure | wired magazine has a diybio/rna piece | 22:21 |
| @kanzure | koerner.. something | 22:21 |
| yashgaroth | rna?! | 22:22 |
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