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| kanzure | nmz787: i don't know anyone at makerbot who would listen to me | 07:19 |
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| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/makerbot just post here and hope for the best :/ | 07:20 |
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| kanzure | i've been using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM for anyone asking for laymen explanation of higgs :p | 07:41 |
| ThomasEgi | i always have to smile at those people talking cool about higgs but are unable to do linear math. | 07:43 |
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| kanzure | hi charlesos | 08:09 |
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| obscurite | folks, I'm making a stock solution of a solid reagant in in DMSO or | 09:07 |
| obscurite | dimethyl formamide and want to dilute it with a buffer before adding to culture | 09:08 |
| obscurite | not sure how to choose the buffer. there are a bunch around. | 09:08 |
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| kanzure | timbuktuchronicles.blogacspot.com/2012/07/diybio-kenya.html | 10:05 |
| kanzure | http://timbuktuchronicles.blogacspot.com/2012/07/diybio-kenya.html | 10:05 |
| kanzure | http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/07/the-journal-of-peer-production-issue-2-biohardware-hacking/ | 10:05 |
| kanzure | "I wonder what would happen if they sprayed or coated their sugar-vascular pattern with extracellular matrix, which would encourage cells to adhere and grow?" | 10:07 |
| ParahSailin | i didnt read the sugar printing pr hit what was that about | 10:19 |
| ParahSailin | i automatically assume wetlab people are full of shit | 10:19 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: well that was jmil's work | 10:20 |
| kanzure | he's not entirely full of shit :) | 10:20 |
| kanzure | hplusroadmap occassionally actually knows what it is talking about | 10:20 |
| ParahSailin | so its ready to be used? | 10:22 |
| ParahSailin | they are literally printing pure sugar? | 10:23 |
| obscurite | are you guys talking about the UPENN work? | 10:23 |
| obscurite | ParahSailin - "The formula they settled on — a combination of sucrose and glucose along with dextran for structural reinforcement — is printed with a RepRap" | 10:24 |
| obscurite | I was wondering what keeps the vasculature network from closing up as the cells grow | 10:25 |
| obscurite | does it leave behind a structure? | 10:25 |
| ParahSailin | oh, the sugar dissolves leaving gaps in the collegen? | 10:25 |
| obscurite | I guess the idea is that the cells are added in a gel | 10:27 |
| obscurite | so the gel doesn't collapse around the vasculatore | 10:27 |
| obscurite | vasculature* | 10:27 |
| ParahSailin | sounds like a decent patent to rip off | 10:28 |
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| ParahSailin | anyone have a pdf of the nature methods paper sugar thing | 10:37 |
| yashgaroth | I was gonna ask jmil but apparently you scared him away | 10:37 |
| obscurite | he's off to see his lawyer :P | 10:38 |
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| ParahSailin | patents are slavery | 11:00 |
| kanzure | obscurite: jmil (jordan miller) was a coauthor so i'm sure he'll be happy to answer questions when he's around | 11:08 |
| kanzure | jmilping | 11:08 |
| kanzure | oh he left | 11:08 |
| kanzure | how lame | 11:08 |
| ParahSailin | is pacbio working on some long read sequencing? | 11:11 |
| kanzure | damn why don't we have a pacbio informant? | 11:12 |
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| delinquentme | anyone in here well versed in Neural networks? | 12:23 |
| delinquentme | specifically forward propigation? | 12:23 |
| kanzure | eh what do you want to know | 12:25 |
| delinquentme | THETA | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | the capital version ... contains what values | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | the activation values? and specifically how are they mapped if the arrangement | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | THETA^l_ij | 12:32 |
| delinquentme | is used | 12:32 |
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| kanzure | hi klafka | 13:44 |
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| delinquentme | metal is so good | 14:25 |
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| delinquentme | worm holes? | 15:50 |
| delinquentme | http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/mag-portals.html | 15:50 |
| kanzure | no. | 15:52 |
| delinquentme | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnHuNUNV0BE | 16:26 |
| delinquentme | OH. MAN. | 16:26 |
| delinquentme | " I will build an army of dinosaurs " | 16:26 |
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| kanzure | haha m-pesa exploits are hilariously trivial.. send a text message saying "call this number to receive your money" and ask for a pin number. can't get any easier than that :( | 16:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.hilarymason.com/presentations-2/devs-love-bacon-everything-you-need-to-know-about-machine-learning-in-30-minutes-or-less | 16:38 |
| brownies | dinosaurs, eh? | 16:40 |
| delinquentme | ^^ | 16:42 |
| ThomasEgi | .. meh. i can't stand watching those cheap series, with their expresionnless face and voices. | 16:44 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKMzeta | 18:34 |
| nmz787 | gotta look at the interactome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactome | 18:39 |
| kanzure | "Neurons do get larger as brain size increases, but not quite quickly enough to stay equally well connected. And axons do get thicker as brains expand, but not quickly enough to make up for the longer conduction delays." | 18:42 |
| kanzure | "people with the quickest lines of communication between their brain areas also seem to be the brightest. One study…used functional magnetic resonance imaging to measure how directly different brain areas talk to one another—that is, whether they talk via a large or a small number of intermediary areas…Shorter paths between brain areas correlated with higher IQ." | 18:42 |
| kanzure | "[Others] compared working memory (the ability to hold several numbers in one’s memory at once) among 29 healthy people…People with the most direct communication and the fastest neural chatter had the best working memory." | 18:42 |
| kanzure | "The most intelligent protostome is probably the octopus. After 600 million years of independent evolution and despite their big brains, octopi do not seem to be on the verge of building radio telescopes." | 18:44 |
| kanzure | "The dolphinoidea evolved a large E.Q. between ~60 million years ago and ~20 million years ago (Marino et al 2004). Thus, dolphins have had ~20 million years to build a radio telescope and have not done so." | 18:44 |
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| nmz787 | http://tcaproject.org/projects/noark | 19:19 |
| nmz787 | "To create NoArk we used cellular stock taken from tissue banks, laboratories, museums and other collections. NoArk contains a chimerical ‘blob’ made out of modified living fragments of a number of different organisms, living, in a techno-scientific body. " | 19:20 |
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| Steel2 | sknxxxxx. | 20:15 |
| Steel2 | man I'm tired. | 20:15 |
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| delinquentme | anyone in here happen to know of a checklist to go through before opensourcing a project for the first time? | 20:50 |
| delinquentme | Also unrelated: Does anyone in here have a strong opinion on climate change and carbon? | 20:50 |
| delinquentme | * in the atmosphere * | 20:50 |
| delinquentme | not like: I like carbonfiber bike frames | 20:51 |
| yashgaroth | so like what then | 20:52 |
| nmz787 | avg earth temp isn't gonna change much, but surface temps could swing enough to kill some shit off... | 21:08 |
| nmz787 | get to an african safari in the next 10 years is my opiniong | 21:08 |
| kanzure | this is why i keep telling kids to go into the soviet missle bunker real estate market | 21:09 |
| kanzure | it's cooler underground (sometimes) | 21:09 |
| delinquentme | yashgaroth, lol as in AGW or "anthropogenic global warming" | 21:10 |
| delinquentme | i like my blue green marble =\ | 21:10 |
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| delinquentme | AGW is the poster boy of failed science communication. It is the perfect example of people embracing bad science because it agrees or disagrees with an ideology, either political or philosophical or ecological. | 21:13 |
| delinquentme | like that seems to be a somewhat accurate statement | 21:13 |
| Steel2 | yash, you apply for those jobs? | 21:25 |
| yashgaroth | ehh it's gonna be a little awkward being out of the country for 2 weeks and then getting to boston somehow | 21:28 |
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| Steel2 | where are you going? | 21:33 |
| yashgaroth | amsterdam and the surrounding area | 21:33 |
| Steel2 | nice | 21:33 |
| yashgaroth | turns out that all the places I'm applying to would do an initial drug test :/ | 21:34 |
| yashgaroth | luckily I love cheese as much as I love weed | 21:34 |
| delinquentme | Women, for example, are big fans of birth control, and if the female reproductive system isn’t controlled by evolution, nothing is. | 21:39 |
| delinquentme | lolz ^ | 21:39 |
| kanzure | gwern is sorta annoying to me | 21:39 |
| kanzure | on the one hand, he has a high tolerance for reading nick bostrom's bullshit, so he can find the tidbits that are okay | 21:39 |
| kanzure | but on the other hand, his concept of "enhancement" is "sitting around on irc reading blogs all day" | 21:39 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, do you know of the best practices for github | 21:53 |
| delinquentme | say when I fork a project and that project gets updates ... and I'd like to get the updated version | 21:53 |
| delinquentme | 1 way is just delete the repo and refork .. but that seems kludgy | 21:54 |
| kanzure | git pull origin master; git push myfork master | 21:54 |
| kanzure | git remote add myfork git@github.com:delinquentme/myfork.git | 21:54 |
| brownies | ...now shuffle those 3 commands until it works -_- | 21:55 |
| delinquentme | lol | 21:55 |
| * kanzure shrugs | 21:55 | |
| delinquentme | so you're saying pull the primary branch and just force update my fork | 21:55 |
| delinquentme | i guess thatd work | 21:55 |
| kanzure | i usually set origin to be my version and some remote name to be the thing i forked | 21:56 |
| brownies | depends what you want to do | 21:56 |
| brownies | but if you haven't touched your fork on github, then the corrected version of what kanzure said will work fine | 21:56 |
| kanzure | you should never have to force-update for that operation | 21:56 |
| brownies | assuming that you're on your master branch locally and you're ok with having those changes there as well (which... why wouldn't you be okay with that...) | 21:56 |
| kanzure | if you have new commits then you should store yours on a separate branch | 21:56 |
| delinquentme | so i dont have any commits im keeping | 21:57 |
| delinquentme | but setting someone else branch as remote doesnt seem smart ... what if you're deploying? | 21:57 |
| brownies | but you have been commiting to master? locally and/or on your github fork? | 21:57 |
| brownies | you can have multiple remotes | 21:57 |
| delinquentme | HMMM | 21:57 |
| delinquentme | TIL | 21:57 |
| kanzure | git remote -vvv; git remote add and git remote rm until you are happy with the names.. just remember that "git push" defaults to "git push origin" so your origin should prolly be your github repo and not the original one you forked from. | 21:57 |
| brownies | there's a way to rename remotes with adding and removing -_- | 21:58 |
| kanzure | oh right | 21:58 |
| kanzure | advanced git wizardry 101.. git remote rename | 21:58 |
| brownies | oh git push defaults to origin? that's interesting. | 21:58 |
| brownies | i make a point of not naming any of my remotes origin. | 21:58 |
| kanzure | sure that's advisable | 21:58 |
| brownies | git push github... git push heroku... etc. | 21:58 |
| kanzure | one of my projects had a staging on heroku and a staging.git on github | 21:59 |
| kanzure | and then we were working on a branch called.. staging | 21:59 |
| kanzure | so apparelty a few of the other programmers called their git remote "staging" | 21:59 |
| kanzure | *apparently | 21:59 |
| kanzure | chaos and confusion ensued. | 21:59 |
| brownies | now they should just alias "stage" to "git" | 21:59 |
| kanzure | (i called my remotes github-staging and heroku-staging, but whatevs) | 21:59 |
| brownies | then they can just run $ stage push staging staging | 21:59 |
| kanzure | well there's also the thing where you specify what remote branch you want to push to | 22:00 |
| kanzure | stage push staging staging:staging | 22:00 |
| delinquentme | pull down a remote repo | 22:01 |
| delinquentme | run merges / conflicts | 22:01 |
| delinquentme | and push up to my fork | 22:01 |
| kanzure | there should be no conflicts in your situation | 22:01 |
| brownies | kanzure: ah good point | 22:02 |
| brownies | you still haven't told us what you've been doing with your master branch... though the correct answer should be "nothing" | 22:02 |
| delinquentme | unless I was troubleshooting errors on it | 22:03 |
| brownies | then you should've branched. | 22:03 |
| delinquentme | and branches are contained within the repo | 22:03 |
| delinquentme | so I could be derping on whatever branch I want harmlessly | 22:04 |
| delinquentme | lol I see we've got some git-skateers here | 22:04 |
| kanzure | ok, well, this is fixable | 22:04 |
| kanzure | git checkout -c mybranchisawesome | 22:04 |
| kanzure | wait, no | 22:04 |
| kanzure | -b | 22:04 |
| delinquentme | actually you guys were very helpful | 22:04 |
| delinquentme | but I know what i need to do | 22:04 |
| delinquentme | * flies plane into escaping alien space ship * | 22:04 |
| kanzure | if you delete your public fork i'm going to murder you :( | 22:04 |
| kanzure | (that's not how git works) | 22:05 |
| delinquentme | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 22:05 |
| delinquentme | this is the guy writing recommendations for me | 22:05 |
| delinquentme | nah im not reforking it :D | 22:05 |
| delinquentme | <3 | 22:05 |
| kanzure | dude there's no way i'm going to write a 10 page recommendation for you | 22:05 |
| kanzure | i can't even write a 10 page recommendation for *myself* | 22:05 |
| Steel2 | heh | 22:05 |
| Steel2 | I like bostrom | 22:05 |
| kanzure | bostrom can suck it | 22:06 |
| kanzure | anders used to be cool, too | 22:06 |
| Steel2 | though I've been enjoying dennett soon | 22:06 |
| Steel2 | *soon = recently | 22:06 |
| kanzure | i largely blame bostrom for the horrible abomination that was "World Transhumanist Association" | 22:08 |
| kanzure | what a terrible endeavor | 22:08 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, wait wait | 22:08 |
| delinquentme | they're asking for 10 pages? | 22:08 |
| kanzure | something like that yes | 22:08 |
| delinquentme | nooo you cant be serious | 22:08 |
| delinquentme | WHAT | 22:09 |
| kanzure | better be some damn good job bro | 22:09 |
| delinquentme | who even does that | 22:09 |
| kanzure | like at least $200k/year or something | 22:09 |
| delinquentme | nah the one dude already sent a letter | 22:09 |
| delinquentme | 2 paragraphs | 22:09 |
| delinquentme | fuck 10 pages | 22:09 |
| delinquentme | herp derp innovation | 22:09 |
| brownies | 10 pages? | 22:09 |
| Steel2 | Hmmm. | 22:09 |
| delinquentme | derp derp herp creative derp derp known for long time | 22:09 |
| brownies | no one writes a 10 page recommendation | 22:09 |
| brownies | maybe they meant 10 words | 22:09 |
| Steel2 | Pearce regrets the wta. | 22:09 |
| delinquentme | derp herp programmer | 22:10 |
| Steel2 | on the other hand, pearce has some strange priorities | 22:10 |
| kanzure | brownies: "Chapter 2 of my recommendation" | 22:10 |
| delinquentme | LOL | 22:10 |
| delinquentme | " It was a lovely sunny day in the vale " | 22:10 |
| kanzure | so uh | 22:13 |
| kanzure | how have you done rails work in the past | 22:13 |
| kanzure | without knowing git? | 22:13 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, for someone as intelligent as yourself | 22:16 |
| delinquentme | how is the world black and white | 22:16 |
| delinquentme | " without knowing git "? | 22:16 |
| kanzure | i'm just really curious | 22:16 |
| kanzure | a lot of rails-work involves git | 22:16 |
| kanzure | like for deployment, gem management, etc. etc. | 22:16 |
| kanzure | and for code collaboration with other developers | 22:17 |
| delinquentme | and because I've not handled this operation | 22:18 |
| delinquentme | Git knowledge = 0 | 22:18 |
| delinquentme | 1 or 0 | 22:19 |
| kanzure | so in the past have you collaborated on rails projects with other programmers? | 22:19 |
| delinquentme | yes | 22:21 |
| kanzure | and how did you do that | 22:21 |
| kanzure | cvs? | 22:21 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, | 22:21 |
| kanzure | just curious | 22:22 |
| delinquentme | I've pushed code to repos you and I have worked on | 22:22 |
| delinquentme | how are you curious | 22:22 |
| kanzure | yeah that only makes me even more confused | 22:22 |
| kanzure | because i do remember you knowing "git push" prior | 22:22 |
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| foucist | more cushion for the git pushin' | 23:24 |
| kanzure | *missile | 23:29 |
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| Utopiah | kanzure: instead of the CERN song you could use http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1489 | 23:45 |
| kanzure | heh "phd tv" | 23:46 |
| kanzure | "You might also be interested in Daniel and Jorge's previous animation: Dark Matters" | 23:47 |
| kanzure | "The PHD Movie now has English, Spanish, French, German, Chinese (simplified and traditional), Greek, Russian, Japanese, and Czech subtitles" huh. | 23:47 |
| kanzure | i should submit some fake entries to this http://www.phdcomics.com/tv/2minute/ "Record yourself describing your thesis work in two (2) minutes (audio only). Your entry may be selected to be animated by Jorge Cham and broadcast on this site." | 23:51 |
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