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| * nsh needs to stop getting lost in large webhosting servers | 00:12 | |
| nmz787 | ? | 00:21 |
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| nmz787 | jrayhawk: what were the amateur rocket guys using for comms? | 00:21 |
| nmz787 | what freqs? | 00:21 |
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| nmz787 | nsh: http://www.complextoreal.com/chapters/signals.pdf | 01:40 |
| nsh | thanks | 01:48 |
| jrayhawk | IIRC it's 802.11, but they're all hardware and ham nerds, so they may be doing something crazy to it | 01:50 |
| jrayhawk | and, fwiw, with the configs the way they are on gnusha, adding a virtual host is as easy for us as sudo mkdir /srv/www/domain.name; sudo chown nmz787.nmz787 /srv/www/domain.name | 01:53 |
| jrayhawk | though stuff on there should be non-commercial, elsewise i get yelled at | 01:54 |
| * nsh smiles | 01:54 | |
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| jrayhawk | if you have commercial stuff you want hosted, i have resources elsewhere | 01:56 |
| nsh | "The human voice, for example, spans in frequency from 30 Hz to 10,000 Hz." | 01:57 |
| * nsh tries to imagine someone hitting 30Hz with their voice | 01:57 | |
| nsh | that's below the lowest note on a bass guitar | 01:57 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure: some init scripts are a little dumb and don't use pid files, instead relying on the existence of /proc | 01:57 |
| nsh | where does /proc not exist? | 01:58 |
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| nsh | maybe some embedded things | 01:58 |
| jrayhawk | normally this would be as simple as mount --bind /proc /root/lenny/proc but vserver restrictions make things complicated | 01:58 |
| nsh | oh, chroot | 01:58 |
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| jrayhawk | not sure why the mysql init script is using df; it should be using statf calls directly with stat -f | 02:00 |
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| nmz787 | jrayhawk: i got a 128mb ram server for $18/year | 02:04 |
| nmz787 | it's running django development server now with apache too, doing alright | 02:05 |
| nmz787 | what would you have for commercial stuff? | 02:05 |
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| jrayhawk | huh, that's an interesting deal. | 02:14 |
| jrayhawk | i have a bunch of machines in colo | 02:14 |
| nsh | it's so sad sometimes to find that english is a person's native language | 02:23 |
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| * nsh- wants a universal software radio peripheral | 05:00 | |
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| ThomasEgi | nsh-, like ham radio stuff? | 05:42 |
| archels | nsh-: SDR | 05:42 |
| archels | must have deep pockets, though. | 05:43 |
| nsh- | This is a list of some of the applications the USRP has been used for: -An APCO25 compatible transmitter/receiver and decoder[4]; -RFID reader; -testing equipment; -a cellular GSM base station[5]; -a GPS receiver[6]; -an FM radio receiver[7]; -an FM radio transmitter[8]; -a digital television (ATSC) decoder[9]; -passive radar; -synthetic aperture radar; -an amateur radio[10]; -a teaching aid [1]; -Digital Audio Broadca | 05:48 |
| nsh- | sting (DAB/DAB+/DMB) transmitter [11][12]; -Mobile WiMAX receiver with USRP N2x0 [13] | 05:48 |
| ThomasEgi | hm.. where's the microwave-oven functionality?? | 05:49 |
| Vicarious | ohai | 05:49 |
| nsh- | and an FPGA thrown in for fun | 05:49 |
| nsh- | ThomasEgi, active tin-foil | 05:50 |
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| delinquentme_ | HIO! | 05:51 |
| archels | $650 and up | 05:51 |
| archels | and that does not include frequency conversion | 05:51 |
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| ThomasEgi | 650.. doesn't sound terribly expensive when you are used to lab-equipment prices | 05:57 |
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| delinquentme | nice! | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | jmil, | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | figured out a way to setup a shaker to be switchable between orbital and circular | 07:54 |
| delinquentme | alsoooo do you have the capability to print out those parts you've got on thingverse? | 07:55 |
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| jmil | nice | 08:05 |
| jmil | whut? ya we can print them easy | 08:05 |
| jmil | kanzure: just got interviewed on a weekly science podcast from the SMBC guy and his wife: http://t.co/VIwR4TFV | 08:06 |
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| kanzure | damn, i was using a mediawiki version from 2006? | 09:31 |
| kanzure | "(last version to support PHP 4)" | 09:36 |
| kanzure | well it works.. | 09:48 |
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| nsh- | are you a doctor and a postdoc? is that not grounds for institutionalisation? | 10:48 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: we need to enable users permission to use diyhpluswiki :( | 10:57 |
| nmz787 | nsh-: grounds for institutionalization??? hah, you'd better get ready to have tons of people locked up | 10:57 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: vpscheap.net is where i got that deal from | 10:58 |
| kanzure | if you jail all the postdocs then alll your criminals will be experts | 10:58 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: I hit the RAM limit a few times though when I had a bunch of crap open and was trying to also do apt-get updates | 10:59 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: or maybe we should enable that openid plugin | 11:00 |
| nsh- | nmz787, do you know about nice and renice? | 11:02 |
| nsh- | i wonder if you can do userspace ram compression | 11:03 |
| nsh- | i suppose it's just a ld preload or two | 11:03 |
| nmz787 | nsh-: yeah i've heard of them, thanks for reminding me | 11:07 |
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| nmz787 | anyone ever hear of microcarve? http://microcarve.com/ | 11:53 |
| nmz787 | fenn: ^ | 11:53 |
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| kanzure | http://www.facebook.com/l/wAQEbqt0Y/www.carboncopies.org/sfn-satellite-symposium-on-whole-brain-circuit-reconstruction-oct-16-2012 | 12:35 |
| kanzure | bleh a facebook link | 12:35 |
| kanzure | sorry | 12:35 |
| kanzure | http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2012/08/01/changes-to-thingiverse-beautiful-new-renders/ | 12:37 |
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| kanzure | so i have hplusroadmap-diybio-commits.git which starts at afb8aff and ends at e8698c | 13:28 |
| kanzure | and i have openwetware-diybio-commits.git which starts at cf833de and ends at af4cec0 | 13:29 |
| kanzure | so i git fetched hplusroadmap-diybio-commits into openwetware-diybio-commits | 13:29 |
| kanzure | and did "echo 'e8698cc1bc37c248f3ebe41d12fc6793795f31e3 cf833de973ae02e7f35409866c71ffa65dc26d7f' >> .git/info/grafts" | 13:29 |
| kanzure | however, "git log" doesn't seem to show a grafted history. | 13:30 |
| kanzure | oh oops i guess that order is wrong | 13:31 |
| nsh | this is the kind of thing that would get you burned at the stake back in castledays | 13:32 |
| kanzure | nsh: it's a complicated story | 13:33 |
| kanzure | hplusroadmap-wiki used to be hosted at heybryan.org/mediawiki | 13:33 |
| kanzure | and i wrote a diybio faq | 13:33 |
| kanzure | and then mac cowell copied it to openwetware | 13:33 |
| kanzure | http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ | 13:33 |
| kanzure | but now i want it to be in http://diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki under git revision control | 13:34 |
| kanzure | so i have converted all the mediawiki commits on openwetware into git | 13:34 |
| kanzure | and the former hplusroadmap-wiki commits into git | 13:34 |
| kanzure | and appended the former on to the latter... erm, or the other way around. | 13:34 |
| nsh | right | 13:34 |
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| kanzure | Hasp1: didn't i give you homework? | 13:35 |
| Hasp1 | Me? You showed me the bio offices in Boston | 13:35 |
| kanzure | yeah did you go? | 13:35 |
| Hasp1 | Not yet | 13:36 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: can your scripts handle another pull from oww if that get's updated in the future? | 13:43 |
| kanzure | sure | 13:44 |
| nmz787 | kewl | 13:45 |
| jrayhawk | 15:53 < jrayhawk> you can pinyconfig diyhpluswiki sharedrepository 0666 if you want anybody to be able to edit it | 13:46 |
| jrayhawk | 15:53 < jrayhawk> and rebuildrepo diyhpluswiki | 13:46 |
| jrayhawk | realistically i should modify pinyconfig to run rebuildrepo unless --no-rebuild is passed to it or something | 13:48 |
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| kanzure | sharedrepository is not a legal tweakable, or 0666 is not a legal value for that tweakable. | 13:49 |
| kanzure | Can't locate object method "sharedrepository" via package "Piny::Config" at /usr/sbin/pinyconfig line 51. | 13:49 |
| * nsh wants homework | 13:51 | |
| jrayhawk | 15:55 < jrayhawk> oh, core.sharedrepository | 13:51 |
| jrayhawk | 15:55 < jrayhawk> durrr | 13:51 |
| nmz787 | nsh: write me a paper on the definition of a word | 13:52 |
| nmz787 | srsly | 13:52 |
| nsh | which word? | 13:52 |
| nsh | or word in the abstract sense? | 13:53 |
| kanzure | here we go | 13:53 |
| kanzure | this is it | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: afb8aff Just starting out. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d331cf5 /* What equipment is in a basic biology lab? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a926c3d (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 76c093f /* How can I get involved? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: eca8f9b /* What equipment is in a basic biology lab? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e5fef82 /* What's all this about "open", anyway? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8f9a41a /* Microfluidics MiniFAQ */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b116a44 /* Microfluidics MiniFAQ */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 48cd503 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d2910ce Adding a video to the news section. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e136a83 twitter, friendfeed, vimeo video | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9e9c335 Adding a section on keiki gels. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a35804f Added a section on synthetic biology. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 70d79bc DNA synthesis mini FAQ stuff. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 62c0ccc Forgot to copy over some of the companies from the synthetic biology page. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e8698cc (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 59ddbf5 duplicated today from http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/DIYbio_FAQ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e35e5d3 (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3a124d5 /* Is there a group in my area? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1fa37f2 /* What is DIYbio, as an organization? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 84b2974 (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 00632a4 (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ff01fa1 (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b6509d6 /* What is synthetic biology? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a212ced (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7d219c6 (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 43e3ed4 (no commit message) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4fcd564 /* What equipment do I need to perform experiment XYZ? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: eefeeb3 /* Microfluidics MiniFAQ */ (fixed a link) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f2a499f /* Where can I see an archive of previous DIYbio discussions and questions? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c5a14eb Instructions, protocols, hardware packaging, open source hardware. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6456853 /* Are there any plans for a DIYbio-friendly file format for protocols, instructions and hardware? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 550166c /* What's all this about "open", anyway? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 168c7ce /* What is open source hardware? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f0f0b76 /* Legal issues */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c057838 /* BioBricks (legal stuff) */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7481859 /* BioBricks (legal stuff) */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 916e1a7 /* BioBricks (legal stuff) */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6dcd2d2 genetic engineering | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 593a5d9 /* DNA synthesis MiniFAQ */ (DIY DNA synthesis) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e87ab30 /* What equipment is in a basic biology lab? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: cfd9f04 /* MacGyverisms */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f5cdac1 5 minute DNA extraction in a shot glass, macgyverisms | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 676e82c Added some regional videos. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 550c7cb Fixing the formatting of the biobricks legal stuff section. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ebf25a2 /* Legal issues */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ef60a95 Added some questions. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 093cce7 Auctions for lab equipment, list of sites. | 13:53 |
| jrayhawk | this might've been unwise | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 722ca63 Safety documentation | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 29134d1 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 96cb7ec DNA synthesis MiniFAQ - updated links to threads | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 33f109b DIY microfluidics for continuous liquid flow using toner transfer (How To) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e54a195 Added a link to the discussion on list standards. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8a81e45 oops, syntax error | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8a53fce /* How can I get involved? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 41c1fc5 /* How can I get involved? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a24bcd4 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c993d44 Open Source Everything project | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: aa7c23b attempts at defining the biohacker | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: eabed0c added a mention of a freely available video | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3918f79 ack, formatting :( | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9939b56 added a mention of dorkbot and hackerspaces to related groups | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c29d39a Add "What is synthetic biology?" from "real source" at http://gcat.davidson.edu/GcatWiki/index.php/A_Review_of_Synthetic_Biology | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8bb291e /* What are biobricks? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: aac0c67 Single paragraph describes it. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: adeacc0 mention sharing is digital format on the internet (in case that isnt obvious) | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7e59816 Agar purification recipes (needs to be moved somewhere else) | 13:53 |
| kanzure | bwahahaha | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: aa48e36 AFM equipment, spectrophotometry equipment | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b39f004 /* Appendix 1 - list of Synthetic Biology Companies */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 832d923 Add 'how to make Taq' | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e8ed946 New page: == ToolBook Business Model == reformatted from http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/browse_thread/thread/57c91e1db7b877c8 Let's have a look at a possible business model for th... | 13:53 |
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| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1c084d6 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4ddd76f add section for eduational videos etc. inc revision to 1.1 | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 86783c1 /* DNA synthesis MiniFAQ */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 649940c Use 1 word instead of 10. be succinct. make bullet lists. reorder. also add UV sterilization. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a606d03 /* What's all this about "open", anyway? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: fc3f4b2 /* What equipment do I need to perform DIYBio-related projects? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 454eadf /* Are there any plans for a DIYbio-friendly file format for protocols, instructions and hardware? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: cb4a621 netiquette | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6fb2e1f add section about 'diybio model organisms' | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e9af3a5 move discussion about pages to the "Talk" tab /* What's all this about "open", anyway? */ | 13:53 |
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| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 87acf54 /* What's all this about "open", anyway? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 450c64b add note about PLOS /* What's all this about "open", anyway? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4dc3658 find/add link to Rob Carlson's article /* What's all this about "open", anyway? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: df287b4 add papar about agar DOI10.1007/BF00152620 | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4056528 bump rev for fun | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9cabb6a /* FAQ Revision History */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8760ef8 /* Using Agar instead of Agarose */ | 13:53 |
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| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0751b07 Add info to replace link to thread | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e50c7c7 /* Using Other Starches to Substitute for Agarose */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3eb36a3 more edits to replace thread link | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1e1de74 /* Using Other Starches to Substitute for Agarose */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e44dcc4 more distill thread | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6d81723 more thread distillation | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6ce2fd9 fix formating | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ae78cad change "file format" to "database". Makes more sense. | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ccd3f0c fix formatting | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ebaa7d2 retrosynthesis | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8a50f69 /* What is DIYbio, as an organization? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: fe92d3b refactor and create separate topic | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bbe5cbc Paste from DIYBio FAQ to create new topic | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6556efb Paste from DIYBio FAQ to create new topic | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e9c7b7c refactor educational section to separate topic | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 96470f7 minor edit | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f90551e /* What are the Guidelines for Posting to the DIYBio mailing lists and/or Forums? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: be02130 /* What are the Guidelines for Posting to the DIYBio mailing lists and/or Forums? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e7d3aa9 /* Appendix 1 - list of Synthetic Biology Companies */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c351b55 add project section link, clarify text | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4ad6bef add new section | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ec916e9 fix link | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0127a04 /* What Projects has DIYBio completed? What projects are DIYBio contributors working on now? Who is working on what? Who do I contact to offer to collaborate on a project? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5840c45 move the skdb stuff to proper place | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 265519a add Appendix 2 - List of Equipment Suppliers | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7cc1bb6 move list to main page to appendix of companies | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 506c555 Added http://openwetware.org/wiki/Template:DIYbio:Top | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 22f7641 add template | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9ed04cf add template | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: edf4ccf rudeness on the list | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7c8473e link to diybio projects page on diybio.org | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9d2a124 New page: add feedback on the FAQ here. *'''~~~~''': | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ef72843 /* Using Agar instead of Agarose */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e0dad2a /* Substitutes for Expensive Agarose */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7c5173f fix link | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d645ba3 add dna stains | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c9b30a9 fix misspelling, clean up text | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2da4d77 add project idea section to reduce re-hash of discussions | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 094ce93 minor formatting fix | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9d379bc fix format | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d97f5d2 Add new sections | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bf4c158 Add classic version | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5c880af /* Do you recommend any feeds, blogs, wikis, instructables, .. ? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 835ae6f bump up the rev & move project links to project page | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4256e4f add external links | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 04e921c add more on bioreactors | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a0d195a /* Basics of Growing Algae */ make into subsection | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e5e3cca add Appendix 3 - Laboratory Basics | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5dbd810 fix bad formatting | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2cffcb7 Refer to Projects page & cleanup formatting. all links here should be farmed for FAQ material eventually, esp for Projects page. /* What Equipment can I build myself ? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f27c1c6 add "we dont know what we dont know" from Robert Horn | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 39ba4c4 add date of the paper, which is significant | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e699e9a add What equipment do I need to preserve my microbes? | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2e807f1 /* What equipment do I need to preserve my microbes? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 072a664 add The Biocoil Project /* For Algae */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 70fa4e0 clarify " manual-defrost " freezer /* What equipment do I need to preserve my microbes? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1526292 add general rule /* What equipment do I need to preserve my microbes? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: acc4a03 paste from http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio:Kit#Kits /* New Equipment */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: da61275 paste from http://openwetware.org/index.php?title=DIYbio:Suppliers /* Surplus/Auction Equipment */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c81d4c7 Add new section to faq, For now, link to [http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio:Kit | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: fb07406 add inkjet printer section | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1891687 add animal methods section | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a816a7c link to group thread /* EPSON Printers */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b107f43 Add more linkage and sectionage /* HANDLING ANIMALS FOR EXPERIMENTATION */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c48aa69 add link to DIYbio:Notebook/Safety_Manual_1.0 /* Appendix 3 - Laboratory Basics */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9d6433d add Making Bacteria Media from Potato. /* Chemicals and Reagents are expensive. How can I make my own? What can I substitute? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bd4f2f0 spin column recycling /* What Equipment have other DIYBio members made? Can I buy one from them? Where are the plans? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b186544 Reusing Electroporation Cuvettes /* How can I reuse, recycle, sterilize, or "refresh" equipment? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: cd9e659 expand what is "this" in "working on this"/* Are there any plans for a DIYbio-friendly, open source database system for biology protocols, how-tos and hardware/equipment construction? */ | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ca69246 Move = Appendix 2 - List of Equipment Suppliers = to this page from the Main | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 41a0c2f Move Appendix2 to Equipment page, Move Appendix3 to new "Methods" page, add "Methods" to top template | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 43fb346 Move from http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ to make smaller section for easier reading | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e9440e1 clean up netiquette section and archive section | 13:53 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 21dddca bump to 1.4 after adding new 'Methods" section /* FAQ Revision History */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 948a9e0 add carolina kits, and paste all from http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio:Kit | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b9bce38 /* Educational Kits - Intermediate (High school / College and above) */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a56c2f1 add dna extraction 'projects' | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0a062df minor cleanup + add Very good images of DNA and phages: http://www.biochem.wisc.edu/faculty/inman/empics/dna-prot.htm | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 76316ee Add textbook section | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 766fb57 Add section ' Microfluidics and Controller Boards' with jpg | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1f70c35 Add project specific link to USB controller /* Controllers */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 654093f /* Project Ideas */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2a5617a add "What are the social, ethical, technological implications of DIY Bio or Genetic Engineering?" and add to " Are we moving to a future where everyone performs a little genetic engineering?" | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5722abe fix minor formating things | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 748362d add more /* What are the social, ethical, technological implications of DIY Bio or home genetic engineering? How might it be best to create more social discussion? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7ecfc26 add another quote /* Are we moving to a future where everyone performs a little genetic engineering? | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 06eec18 Add links /* What are the social, ethical, legal/patent implications of DIY Bio or home genetic engineering? How might it be best to create more social, ethical, legal/patent discussion? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 35cc896 add http://www.hulu.com/watch/67878/the-future-of-food and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto_Canada_Inc._v._Schmeiser | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 87bd552 Add Post pictures of you home laboratory setup. http://www.flickr.com/groups/diylabs/ Raymond McCauley | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7aab5ac add section ' Are there Historical Precedents or Prior Cases' | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2cab2e8 fix typo /* Arizona, 2009 */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a2c4f1e improve wording in section Are we moving to a future where everyone performs | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 80fb0cf Clarified certification vs license (which doesn't exist in most countries) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9fdeb90 /* USING ANIMALS */ Corrected to explain falshoods in previous post. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5d00f99 /* USING ANIMALS */ Added some info on actual US regulations and who it applies to. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 26b973f Add "do not 'bump'" /* What are the Guidelines for Posting to the DIYBio mailing lists and/or Forums? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0e19114 fix typo, improve format /* What are the Guidelines for Posting to the DIYBio mailing lists and/or Forums? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3df4a26 add quote for DIY Chemistry, vs. "quash meth production in America" /* Are there Historical Precedents or Prior Cases which have Demonstrated these Issues? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c886dd8 clarify title in Are we moving to a future where everyone performs a little genetic engineering? | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7b18024 /* What is DIYbio's mission? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5026fd6 add/move videos to top | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f0981d0 fix english | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d7047d4 add top note about FAQ maintainer | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1b48fc8 add note about linkback as copyright | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e906b38 add $25 gel box. add maintainer preface. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 457b99c Epoch Biolabs Spin columns /* How can I reuse, recycle, sterilize, or "refresh" equipment? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3c695e8 Sibgene Taq. Telephone brand agar-agar. /* Chemicals and Reagents are expensive. How can I make my own? What can I substitute? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d27da8b fix attribution lines | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 674049e Reorder taq section. /* Chemicals and Reagents are expensive. How can I make my own? What can I substitute? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 01d24b5 add agar-agar testing idea /* Project Ideas */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: df91eb8 remove header and place in template | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 147007c add top header (why's it missing?) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e2668ef cut top header text which moved to template | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 71645bf (no commit message) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 51ea517 /* Microwave sterilization of plastic tissue culture vessels for reuse */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4042dc2 (no commit message) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 15ff95d improve Jake Stewart additions to make text objective and impersonal (i.e. "you must" -> "one must") and add attribution | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5164b72 add more govt docs regarding animal use from original thread | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1be1c76 add a couple from http://groups.google.com/group/diytranshumanist/web/places-to-buy-cheap-lab-equipment-please-add-to-it | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6c17840 emphasis for please expand this list | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9d4b605 Making a spin coater /* Project Ideas */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0af4c22 add spin coater /* Microfluidics and Controller Boards */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 36da657 Add Patenting Synthetic Biology: A Transatlantic Perspective. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: cd7645c SF Chronicle article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ac3b961 Rob Carlson on THE ECONOMIST | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 67e957e netiquette section, simplify title to allow easy linking | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b3fe3e3 /* Guidelines for Posting to DIYBio */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ea2729c /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 06499f2 fixing a formatting error | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7e34bac more news links | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b421568 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ebe7357 older news pieces | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a78a28d added one news article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 32c18ab /* Guidelines for Posting */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 139e9f9 Biotech on a Budget (new article) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d8d38ea add Homebrew Growth Media | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0223eec Add dremelfuge | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 60e71b8 /* Homebrew Centrifuges */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: fb5d0b3 add Human Biology Projects | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: cf1b84c /* Longevity */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f05bd4d Longevity "Book" Research | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e5a6384 (no commit message) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 492f7c1 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: dce8ad8 add homebrew taq | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6739095 Clarify homebrew taq /* Project Ideas */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bbbcb68 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8538e31 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 588b55b /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9c71c26 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bcd53fd /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1c26a0f /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f1e27b5 yet another article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9975613 updated the gourmet magazine entry | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 95307f6 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 97a5177 lots of updates :) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9626269 got a date wrong :( | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 667cec6 2008 nytimes.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 590aa0b 2009-11-20 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ab220c2 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 90ce7e4 fixed some timestamps | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ed4ffbd something from 2010-02-16 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0f09ddd 2010-03-03 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 90e355f NY Times letter to the editor | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c5c3ed9 In The Pipeline | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 165e840 The Economist | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e56a937 minor updates- names of publishers, etc. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: fba8f6d older articles | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a12b676 Backyard Biology issue (2006) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8e72623 BBC | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7e5df47 moar! | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7141344 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: cdfd35a yet another article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a5d44d3 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5cdb9e1 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1aa41bb O'Reilly Radar article. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e7e0cbe 2009-05-14 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4efb4f5 2010-06-11 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 20117e4 2010-06-07 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a55cc53 2005-04-28 | 13:54 |
| jrayhawk | what's with the /* */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7883e0a 2009-01-20 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4115293 2010-05-25 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3041975 more articles | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 888dec2 ponoko.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b026f49 "Do we need a DIYbio Academy?" | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1d6c39b mobile health contests news bit mentioned diybio | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 38de2fc Institute for the Future announcement | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8f599c9 Citizen scientists: easy ideas for kids and adults to study the environment | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 53bd813 Storm the Royal Society? Citizen Science Tours. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 41c473d tito's biocurious post | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 180b0f5 oops | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1835094 Woodrow Wilson Center stuff | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d75e65a two new articles- one is on synthetic biology, however. Is it relevant for this list? | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 860c712 2009-06-02 freesoftwaremagazine.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ee1b60a 2009-02-16 labtimes.org article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4c989c9 2009-01-06 ginkgobioworks.com blog article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 15ab3fc 2008-05-19 article on DIY synthetic biology | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1af0f81 2009-09-11 wired.co.uk article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6757a6b 2009-01-04 scienceblogs.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6f8ddd8 2010-06-30 Sonia Arrison article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 267abef another biocurious update | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4c0c856 various articles | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b528600 2010-07-06 institute for the future article on biocurious | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 842fba6 2010-07-05 biocurious / boingboing.net article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 500eddc 2010-06-16 biohacking article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0b061be 2010-07-07 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4ad134c 2010-07-07 xconomy article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 796de54 /* Couldn't find this linked from within openwetware, only from syntheticbiology.org */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 433c2e2 Removed dead links to other forums | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2fd38fd 2010-08-02 boston.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ac92435 2010-07-30 review of open science summit thursday session | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4e656fe 2010-07-30 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5756e93 2010-08-03 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 260523d correct link this time | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: db64502 2010-07-15 eri gentry's biotech revolution | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 91d02c1 2010-07-14 DIY Biotechnologists Go Looking for a Bigger Garage | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a895a8a 2010-08-24 euroscientist.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: faace8d more articles | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5087c00 typo correction | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 55a55cf 2008-06-13 article (it's different from the 2010-08-17 article i guess?) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d718c1c 2010-08-24 biotechniques.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: db27618 2010-08-25 boingboing.net hydroponic article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 732ab8b 2010-04-23 Gør-det-selv-biotek er på vej til din garage | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5611927 2010-09-01 article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6992d3d Add "freeze & squeeze." | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 405c906 Safely Staining DNA | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a546819 2010-09-01 otyp.es article from H+ Magazine | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 366dbd8 2010-09-11 future of biotech patents | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1bdc338 Using Jell-O for Hands-On Microfluidics chips | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3344036 2010-09-17 kickstarter.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 559caa0 2010-09-15 bioethics.gov update thingy | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 03b7b6a 2010-09-18 openwear.org interview | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1e63a5d 2010-09-20 biocurious article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4e258a2 2010-09-23 biocurious article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a242711 2010-09-25 andrew ellington post | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 516cdfb 2010-09-27 article on diygenomics, melanie swan, et al. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 35978ce minor typo correction on "bioethics" | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 057fafe 2010-09-27 DIYbio NYC/BioBus Collaboration Wins MAKE Magazine Editors' Choice Award | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 204dd5a 2010-09-28 and 2010-10-01 DIYbio NYC, BioBus, Melanie Swan, DIYgenomics | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 632017d typo fix (DIYbio -> DIYbio NYC) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b3f437a some more articles, dunno where to put the Nature paper (and what about the editorial?) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ae56537 2010-10-08 model organisms bit | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: aca87c7 2010-02-16, 2010-10-12 blogs.kentlaw.edu articles | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c3f11e9 2010-10-12 yet another article about garage biotech in nature magazine | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4528328 actually, that was a makezine.com article | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a943da4 2010-10-04 ellingtonlab.org mentions diybio | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 62c99dd LavaAmp picked up the nature article too. | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c646be0 2009-04-14 diybio-nyc article by JSCMS | 13:54 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: that's how mediawiki identifies sections on a page that you are editing | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a56de85 2010-02-02 Auf der Suche nach Hacks und Exploits in Molekülen und Gensträngen (Chaosradio Podcast Network) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a44c923 2010-10-15 slashdot | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0a6bb5b 2010-10-15 technomage.org article on diy biohacking and the nature.com editorial | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: cd8e859 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 23a201e /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 105dc31 2010-10-19 Bio-Hackers – Not Just a Title for a Bad Science Fiction Movie | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 759c8cf 2010-08-13 Garage-lab bugs: spread of bioscience increases bioterrorism risks (homelandsecuritynewswire.com) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7d9fd4e 2010-10-13 wetmachine.com response to the nature.com articles | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b14cd42 2010-10-23 diybio-bangalore | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e6c43fa 2010-10-30: Open source-biologi baner vej for bioterror fra garagen (ing.dk) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: da1b544 2010-10-11 A Do-It-Yourself Genomic Challenge to Myriad, the FDA and the Future of Genetic Tests | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3e1c750 2010-11-04 Whither “Biohackers?” | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2621555 2010-11-05 DIYbio and the "MAN" | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b08ec83 2010-11-12 steve kurtz interview / p2pfoundation.net | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: dd74aeb september 2010 article on DIYgenomics, PGP, etc. in Nature Medicine | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1821afc 2010-11-14 diybio at igem | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9834714 Add http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/bioethics/100708/default.cfm | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b04a087 2010-11-22 I Brew, Therefore I am (diybio.org) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0129af4 2010-11-26 The Future of Science? | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c430523 2010-11-19 and 2009-06-03 diy stem cells | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2c5e13b 2009-08-26 And the Innovation Continues...Starting with Shake and Bake Meth! | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0a81e96 2010-12-01 DIY plant genetic engineering | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9611020 2010-12-02 and 2010-11-29 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2cbf02d 2010-12-05 Wetware | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1f85601 2010-12-07 Piracy in the age of DIYbio | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3a5a0ef 2010-12-07 Synthetic biology: The innovation and bioterrorism balance | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a6d7068 2008-05-24 Don't Phage Me, Bro | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 70c2b3a 2010-02-12 DNA Discovery in Middle School | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0377d97 2010-12-16 NY Times & Nature News, woot | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 53116e0 2010-12-16 newswire floating around out there.. also 2010-11-25 | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 442e99f 2010-12-16 Wired | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c7f49fc 2010-12-17 genspace | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5268ff7 2010-12-16 Melanie's talk on aging research | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d241ea2 2010-12-19 NY Times | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b903a6b 2010-12-17 "not a meth lab" good news | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 26bd2f8 Equipment list | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1237701 typical FabLab inventory list | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 37f3665 oops redundancy | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 73a8890 2010-12-15 The rise of the genome bloggers: Hobbyists add depth to ancestry trawls. (Nature News) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 93ad93f 2010-12-22 another genspace article ("Biotech for the masses") | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 31df8bb 2010-12-21 OpenPCR at the Grenswerk Art Festival (Enschede, the Netherlands) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d9a496d 2010-12-21 Identifying the sea changes and opportunities in "biohacking" | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 99ebe34 2010-12-22 using synthetic biology to redefine your food digestion options | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8673e75 2010-12-22 Technology: A flavour of the future (Nature Outlook) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b4f3068 2010-12-24 Science, Law Enforcement Build Biotech Bridges (sciencemag.org) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6576cb4 msnbc link | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 2fbec22 2010-01-15 Culturing bioluminescent microbes, part 1 | 13:54 |
| jrayhawk | Oh, so those are semi-automated | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ce798dd 2010-12-31 cathal's year-in-review for diybio | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: fa29396 2010-12-21 biohacklab @ bio.tmplab.org announcement | 13:54 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: if you hit "edit" on a mediawiki page section it auto-populates the commit message | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4cee660 2010-12-30 lepht in the news cutting himself up | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e717f5e /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 768a44e 2010-12-23 Citizen Science Genomics as a Model for Crowdsourced Preventive Medicine Research (Journal of Participatory Medicine) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 471fa03 2010-12-31 genomeweb link to jopm.org | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 137ba23 2011-01-01 singapore event & exi-chat gateway post counts i guess | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 273a387 london hackspace announcement-- group announcements are ok right? | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 51c787a added a link to diybio/singapore event announcement | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7bf19bd 2011-01-03 Citizen scientists carving out new roles via the Web | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 7eaa32a 2010-05-19 Citizen-Scientist Joseph Jackson and the New Open Source | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: dc290bd 2011-01-01 What is “Practical Microbiology”? | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: aef97c7 2011-01-04 Quantified Self logs on to self-tracking (San Francisco Chronicle) | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8844793 2011-01-07 Suffer the future: a painful stab at ushering in the new (marcuswohlsen.com) | 13:54 |
| jrayhawk | i guess that's cool | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b674621 2011-01-17 more DIY transhumanism | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bcabd0b 2009-11-17 Hobby molecular biology | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 395ffd9 2011-01-07 Glue guns and DIY biohacking | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 54693ed 2011-01-24 Meat Tenderizer & a Salad Spinner: Home Biotech | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 816360f 2011-01-17 Poor countries urged to get ready for synthetic biology | 13:54 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 06d174c 2011-01-29 Taste of Tech: Biohacking the Future | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d42221a 2011-01-28 diybio-related talk from Humanity+ @ Caltech | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a542526 2011-02-01 Faking Organisms: How can we govern the garage biologists who are tinkering with life? | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1eced1f 2011-02-02 DIYBio and biotinkering - Laws and regulations in Germany | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a16f6af 2011-02-05 Should we worry about antimakers? | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f3eea85 2011-02-09 'DIY' Biologists Look to Bring PCR to the Masses with $512 OpenPCR Thermal Cycler genomeweb | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 45ce4bd 2011-02-15 Do-it-yourself biologists (DIYbio) e a ciência cidadã (synbiobrasil.org) | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1fe815d 2011-03-04 makezine gfp illuminator | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f8a8732 2011-03-03 "On regulation" (ellington again) | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 59b959b 2011-03-05 We are all biologists (raskmedia.com) | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: cf6f5f1 another one.. what's up with the deceleration? | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ed3943e 2011-04-09: The loaded ethics of DNA hacking (salon.com) | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c947ce0 2011-04-11 Putting the DIY in DNA (newscientist.com) | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 13557ee 2011-04-11 brian degger's slide deck | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ec6d00e 2011-04-14 A weekend of biohacking at FutureLabCamp (newscientist.com) | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4be7dfe various articles today | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: dba79a9 2011-04-15 Biopunk: the "great and terrible power" of indie biotech? (Boing Boing) | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4912762 A tremendous introduction to one of the most exciting branches of individual superempowerment emerging today. | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1c59fd1 /* Guides from Cathal */ new section | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b06fee9 cleaned up some old talk | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: edf8e23 2011-04-21 Can Hobbyists and Hackers Transform Biotechnology? | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d0fd198 2011-04-21 HN link | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0300b94 handful of new items | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 79260f1 Move news articles to separate page - faster load times and easier edits. | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f3c5f60 Move news articles to separate page - faster load times and easier edits. | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8fb445b /* FAQ Revision History */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 00761c5 Add several projects. | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0f7bc50 add temp range of incubating yeast | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3a76849 Add BBF RFC60 about biobrick license | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 9285871 Add Open Source Ecology /* What is open source hardware? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6883166 Add more project related | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 0edf7b8 Add DIYBio MCR photos /* Are there any videos from regional groups? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 30defdc add link /* Are there any videos from regional groups? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8c61cff Add Bio:Fiction art videos, for what its worth /* Are there any videos from regional groups? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 416f17a Add manga textbooks. very cool. /* Educational Textbooks */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: db7175c /* Educational Textbooks */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ea42156 Add DIYBIO4Beginners /* Do you recommend any feeds, blogs, wikis, instructables, .. ? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 864951f /* Educational Videos */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 33ab25a Add glowing fungi. watch out for glowing fungi. | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 68dabf8 /* Personal Medical Monitoring */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a110f04 Add long msg from Cathal and Nathan regarding buying microbio equip /* What equipment do I need to perform DIYBio-related projects? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 641a226 Laser Projection Microscope /* Microscopes, Colorimeters, Spectrophotometers, "Cheaposcopes" */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bb6c77f Food projects | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 40b8a7b /* Edibles and Medicines */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1fd21c7 /* Educational and kit suppliers */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bc84f45 Add gene gun /* DNA */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4df5b3b Add idiot disclaimer /* External Links */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 74e70da fix wording /* IMPORTANT NOTE */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bb8d147 /* IMPORTANT NOTE */ | 13:55 |
| nsh | somewhere between cool and meh | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 51286ab Add more beginner textbooks /* Educational Textbooks */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c11f46c Add NCBI free textbooks /* Educational Textbooks */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e8fc405 Add kit links /* Educational Kits - Intermediate (High school / Undergraduate College and above) */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 21e8ab5 /* Project Ideas */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 69293dc /* Project Ideas */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ade39d6 /* Open Source Gel Boxes */ | 13:55 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: presumably it's to prevent assholes from editing and not leaving a commit message | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4f54422 /* Incubator, Shaking Incubator */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 231fb01 /* What equipment do I need to perform DIYBio-related projects? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 10b311d make bold /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e18a51b /* Human Biology Projects */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: de13e06 /* IMPORTANT FAQ */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ccd98e1 /* Project Ideas */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 76b6fe1 /* Project Ideas */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 631ea0f /* Brain Wave Measurement */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a04e8e1 "New Bacteria Lives on Caffeine" /* Diet and Food */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: d8b5c73 Kombucha /* Edibles and Medicines: Yeasts, Kombucha, Tea, Mushrooms, Others */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5713b8d /* Project Ideas */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1907330 /* Fermentors, Bioreactors, Photo Bioreactors */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: dea53d1 /* Fermentors, Bioreactors, Photo Bioreactors */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f4b69a9 /* Project Ideas */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 1805695 /* Project Ideas */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 178c49a /* Fermentors, Bioreactors, Photo Bioreactors */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: fa46fbe /* Fermentors, Bioreactors, Photo Bioreactors */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 83bd96b hmm someone moved this into a separate page? | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b7167b2 2011-06-23 forbes blog post | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b7f599e lots of updates | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 8500691 biohacking on the rise (genomeweb.com) | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: dccd6f7 hmm it has been a while; genomeweb and foxnews | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5f17b7a technologyreview 2012-02-13 | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: bdfaaef dailymail.co.uk crud | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f82ce0c 2012-02-03 DIY science: should you try this at home? | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 64e2bed 2012-01-23 Feeling Biocurious? How To Get Your DIY Bio On | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 63b2bcc 2012-01-23 DIYBIO – Microbial fuel cell 101 | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 660dbe8 2012-01-20; 2012-01-17 NY Times article | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a406318 2012-01-12 wsj Biohackers Get Their Own Space to Create | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 47e8eba 2012-02-15 gizmodo/yogurt/prozac | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b5ca84d 2012-02-21 wired.co.uk | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 80cca61 /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: f782d9d /* Has DIYbio been in the news? */ | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 6866eef cnet | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 3834e1e rename files and folders to use lowercase | 13:55 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 82cb151 Merge openwetware-mediawiki commits. | 13:55 |
| * nsh isn't sure about the term "commit" when editing a static document | 13:55 | |
| nsh | why not 'edit' | 13:55 |
| nsh | a commit should have run-on effects | 13:56 |
| nmz787 | nsh: any word of your choice.... i was thinking of the word 'science' | 13:56 |
| kanzure | oh god i forgot to reformat long commit messages into multiplel ines | 13:56 |
| kanzure | *lines | 13:56 |
| nmz787 | nice | 13:56 |
| nsh | nmz787, can i write it by markov? | 13:56 |
| nmz787 | nsh: huh | 13:56 |
| nsh | .wik Markov chain | 13:57 |
| hplunny | "A Markov chain, named after Andrey Markov, is a mathematical system that undergoes transitions from one state to another, between a finite or countable number of possible states." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_chain | 13:57 |
| jrayhawk | i do not understand the argument that commits to static documents are not commits | 13:57 |
| nmz787 | we're in some kind of commit storm | 13:57 |
| nsh | .wik Mark V Cheney | 13:57 |
| hplunny | "Search for 'Mark V Cheney' in existing articles." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_V_Cheney | 13:57 |
| kanzure | nmz787: i am importing the openwetware commits | 13:57 |
| nsh | .wik Mark V Shaney | 13:57 |
| hplunny | "Mark V Shaney is a fake Usenet user whose postings were generated by using Markov chain techniques." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_V_Shaney | 13:57 |
| nmz787 | lmao | 13:57 |
| kanzure | and did not have the testicular foresight to disable gnushabot | 13:57 |
| jrayhawk | eh, /ignore exists for a reason | 13:57 |
| jrayhawk | it's not like we're going to hurt the bot's feelings | 13:57 |
| kanzure | frankly i like it | 13:58 |
| kanzure | it makes me feel productive | 13:58 |
| nmz787 | nsh: i've looked into markov chains before in 'omics class.... what does that have to do with writing an 'english paper' | 13:58 |
| nmz787 | rudeness! | 13:58 |
| nmz787 | who | 13:58 |
| nmz787 | ? | 13:58 |
| yorick | gnusha: please stop | 13:58 |
| nmz787 | (prob kanzure) | 13:58 |
| kanzure | yorick: heh sorry man | 13:58 |
| yorick | kanzure: fillin up mah chat monitor! | 13:59 |
| nsh | nmz787, it's ironic and smart-arsed. the best way to do any assignment | 13:59 |
| yorick | kanzure: you can't kill it? | 13:59 |
| jrayhawk | yorick: gnusha has only that one purpose, so it's safe to ignore | 13:59 |
| kanzure | yorick: i'd rather not | 13:59 |
| nmz787 | nsh: bbl, PM me an example if you can | 13:59 |
| kanzure | yorick: /ignore gnusha | 13:59 |
| jrayhawk | well, that and logging | 13:59 |
| jrayhawk | but you won't impact that | 13:59 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: how did you send that slash | 14:00 |
| yorick | * IGNORE: Unknown command | 14:00 |
| kanzure | nmz787: / /me ? | 14:00 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: ignore didnt work for me | 14:00 |
| kanzure | waaaiiit... | 14:00 |
| yorick | added it to my ignore list | 14:00 |
| kanzure | http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio:Boston | 14:01 |
| kanzure | what is this | 14:01 |
| kanzure | DIYbio: namespace? | 14:01 |
| kanzure | http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio:Notebook/Keiki_Gels | 14:01 |
| kanzure | nooooo | 14:01 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: an online notebook could be a great feature of H+ | 14:01 |
| kanzure | http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio:Notebook | 14:01 |
| jrayhawk | you can move all those in one big commit | 14:01 |
| kanzure | it seems to mostly be tito's crap though | 14:02 |
| kanzure | not sure if i am interested in grabbing those | 14:02 |
| yorick | oh god make it stop | 14:02 |
| kanzure | i thought you ignored it? | 14:02 |
| yorick | no, ignore didn't work | 14:02 |
| kanzure | what irc client are you using? | 14:03 |
| yorick | quassel | 14:03 |
| yorick | also tried the ignore list | 14:03 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: it didnt work here either | 14:03 |
| kanzure | nmz787: you are using androiirc? | 14:03 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: we can add the notebook stuff manually, lotta junk | 14:03 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: pidgin | 14:03 |
| kanzure | yorick: complain here http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/628 | 14:03 |
| yorick | also | 14:03 |
| yorick | [23:00:57] <nmz787> kanzure: ignore didnt work for me | 14:03 |
| yashgaroth | /ignore gnusha!*@* chan ? | 14:03 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: you don't need the space... type / /ignore to demo it | 14:04 |
| yorick | * IGNORE: Unknown command | 14:04 |
| jrayhawk | Updated by seezer almost 3 years ago "Still there will be a /ignore command in the short future." | 14:04 |
| jrayhawk | ha ha ancient bug reports are adorable | 14:04 |
| kanzure | hehe | 14:04 |
| yorick | ok, it works now | 14:04 |
| yorick | it removed it from my whole backlog too | 14:04 |
| yorick | :) | 14:04 |
| nmz787 | right click on the nick, and click ignore??? | 14:05 |
| nmz787 | it worked for me | 14:05 |
| kanzure | nmz787: i don't know how pidgin's ignore works | 14:05 |
| yorick | went to quassel options and then ignore list | 14:05 |
| kanzure | nmz787: you might want to consider unignoring later so that you can see legit updates | 14:05 |
| yorick | pidgin should have /block or something | 14:05 |
| nmz787 | yeah now i have to figure out how to do that | 14:05 |
| kanzure | nmz787: it's probably in the pidgin preferences somewhere | 14:06 |
| jrayhawk | ##hplusroadmap is a valuable educational resource | 14:06 |
| nmz787 | lemme know when this script is done | 14:06 |
| kanzure | yeah there was only something like 500 commits | 14:06 |
| nmz787 | ok bbl | 14:06 |
| kanzure | oh good utf-8 was preserved | 14:07 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: okay it's done | 14:15 |
| Von | There needs to be an op in here | 14:16 |
| kanzure | i am an op | 14:16 |
| Von | Then kick-ban gnusha | 14:16 |
| Von | O_o | 14:16 |
| kanzure | gnusha is my bot :( | 14:16 |
| Von | Its ultra spamming | 14:16 |
| kanzure | it was just telling you which commits i pushed to the git repository | 14:16 |
| kanzure | which is its intended purpose | 14:17 |
| kanzure | oh noes | 14:18 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/diyhpluswiki/commits/master/diybio/faq.mediawiki | 14:18 |
| kanzure | github doesn't follow history? | 14:18 |
| kanzure | oh well | 14:18 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: /usr/local/share/perl5/IkiWiki/Plugin/ doesn't seem to exist? | 14:22 |
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| kanzure | heroku is migrating all their "shared db" plans to a "10,000 row"-max postgresql thing | 14:55 |
| kanzure | http://www.nature.com/news/europe-nears-first-approval-for-gene-therapy-1.11048 | 14:59 |
| kanzure | "Back in 2004, China became the first country to approve a gene-therapy product for commercial use, with a treatment for cancer. But Europe and the United States have yet to endorse any gene therapies" | 14:59 |
| yashgaroth | they better not fuck it up | 15:01 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: aha /usr/share/perl5/IkiWiki/Plugin | 15:02 |
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| kanzure | 13:02 < jrayhawk> you can slap it into /usr/share/perl5/IkiWiki/Plugin/ and echo 'push(@{$conf->{add_plugins}}, qw{ mediawiki });' into either (globally) /etc/ikiwiki/piny.setup.pl and run sudo piny-ikiwiki-mass-rebuild or (specifically) into /etc/ikiwiki/wiki.setup.pl and rebuildrepo wiki | 15:09 |
| kanzure | so, i added mediawiki to add_plugins in /etc/ikiwiki/piny/diyhpluswiki.setup but it seems to be overwritten when i rebuildrepo diyhpluswiki | 15:09 |
| kanzure | there is no piny.setup.pl or wiki.setup.pl file | 15:09 |
| kanzure | Failed to load plugin IkiWiki::Plugin::mediawiki: Too many arguments for IkiWiki::Plugin::link::checkconfig at /usr/share/perl5/IkiWiki/Plugin/mediawiki.pm line 62, near "@_)" | 15:12 |
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| kanzure | oh geeze http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/ | 15:17 |
| kanzure | this does not seem to be working | 15:17 |
| nmz787 | greaaatttt | 15:17 |
| kanzure | the problem is that the ikiwiki mediawiki plugin seems to be unmaintained for the past three years | 15:20 |
| kanzure | "scott bronson" sounds like a fake name anyway | 15:20 |
| nmz787 | psh | 15:21 |
| nmz787 | no way | 15:21 |
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| nsh | .ety glower | 15:42 |
| hplunny | "mid-14c., 'to shine;' c.1500, 'to stare with wide eyes,' perhaps from a Scandinavian source (cf. Norw. dialectal glora 'to glow'), from P.Gmc. base *glo- (see glow), root of O.E. glowan 'to glow,' which influenced the spelling." - http://etymonline.com/?term=glower | 15:42 |
| oblique | http://vimeo.com/46304267 | 15:45 |
| jrayhawk | who made http://gnusha.org/skdb/images/gnusha.png ? | 15:49 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: that was ybit | 15:52 |
| jrayhawk | oh, i guess that makes sense | 15:54 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: any suggestions before i go rewrite the mediawiki plugin? | 16:01 |
| jrayhawk | you've given up on translating to markdown? | 16:01 |
| kanzure | i don't think i did any translation to markdown | 16:02 |
| jrayhawk | you seemed to want to do that earlier on the basis that it would make things more consistent | 16:02 |
| kanzure | oh right | 16:03 |
| jrayhawk | i am guessing the mediawiki-to-markdown converters are going to be easier to bring up to date than that ancient ikiwiki plugin | 16:03 |
| jrayhawk | especially since it sounded like the mediawiki-to-markdown converter was written in python | 16:03 |
| jrayhawk | insert joke about perl being write-only here | 16:04 |
| kanzure | 3 years is pretty ridiculous | 16:04 |
| kanzure | this means nobody is using that plugin | 16:04 |
| kanzure | and it also means nobody is testing that plugins don't bork on new ikiwiki updates | 16:05 |
| jrayhawk | not contrib ones, no | 16:05 |
| jrayhawk | most of the rest of the plugins are in-tree | 16:05 |
| jrayhawk | i bet pandoc could do this | 16:06 |
| kanzure | hrmm why isn't there a markdown pastebin | 16:07 |
| kanzure | https://gist.github.com/3231461#file_output.md | 16:08 |
| kanzure | so, gist.github.com supports markdown input files | 16:08 |
| kanzure | but it seems to only display the first 10% of the file? | 16:08 |
| kanzure | oh it hates html apparently | 16:09 |
| kanzure | yeah it just looks ugly. | 16:10 |
| jrayhawk | oh, no, it only supports output to mediawiki | 16:11 |
| jrayhawk | bah | 16:11 |
| kanzure | 3231461.git is using media2iki's mediawiki2markdown.py tool | 16:11 |
| kanzure | i have also added the original mediawiki file to test with | 16:12 |
| kanzure | git://gist.github.com/3231461.git | 16:12 |
| kanzure | huh, github renders .mediawiki files.. but terribly | 16:13 |
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| kanzure | https://gist.github.com/3231461#file_markdownify.md | 16:43 |
| kanzure | markdownify is sorta passable | 16:43 |
| kanzure | why did markdownify not translate <b></b>? :( | 16:50 |
| kanzure | or convert the links.. | 16:51 |
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| skorket | I've been looking at doing a little DIY microfluidic experiment. Do you guys have any suggestions on what a good kind of "hello world" experiment that actually involves some real biology would be? | 17:12 |
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| kanzure | skorket: with microfluidics the hello world is getting fluid to flow | 17:22 |
| kanzure | or colors to mix. | 17:22 |
| kanzure | pcr is a good next step. | 17:22 |
| skorket | can you talk a bit about how you would set up pcr on a microfluidic chip? | 17:22 |
| kanzure | you have a bunch of options: | 17:23 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/pcr/ | 17:23 |
| kanzure | personally i like the laser idea | 17:23 |
| kanzure | but realistically the spiral design plus heaters is easier to implement | 17:23 |
| Hasp | Lot of good stuff on that link | 17:26 |
| kanzure | Hasp: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/d | 17:27 |
| kanzure | oh noes | 17:27 |
| kanzure | i meant http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/ | 17:27 |
| Hasp | ... | 17:28 |
| Hasp | damn | 17:28 |
| Hasp | thanks man | 17:28 |
| kanzure | skorket: i suggest starting with http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/training-bootcamp.pdf | 17:28 |
| nsh | .title http://www.freewoodpost.com/2012/07/28/anonymous-hacks-irs-database-publishes-romney-tax-returns/ | 17:44 |
| hplunny | nsh: Free Wood Post | 17:44 |
| nmz787 | nsh: hplunny: so is that real or what? | 17:50 |
| nsh | joke piece, unfortunately | 17:50 |
| nsh | :/ | 17:50 |
| nmz787 | oh | 17:50 |
| nmz787 | damn | 17:51 |
| nsh | i wonder what it'd take to get those returns though | 17:51 |
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| nsh | unrelatedly wonder if there's an audiobook version of applied cryptography | 17:54 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: do you feel like converting mediawiki syntax to markdown for me? | 18:33 |
| nmz787 | sure | 18:36 |
| nmz787 | do you feel like buying CNC stuff? | 18:36 |
| nmz787 | I found a guy that seems to know his stuff well | 18:36 |
| kanzure | tell? | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | and has lots of examples | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | scroll down about 3/4 of the way and look at the green one http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc_router_table_machines/109390-my_newest_desktop_machine.html | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | "A small tightly built machine like the ones I make may actually do | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | a stunningly good job. | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | MDF isolates the axis's so there's practically no resonance transference. | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | The Oilite bearings I use, I use them full length of the assembly they're | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | set into. That means there's a full length oil film the bearing rides on. | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | That makes a difference for fine-fine work....no ball bearings to vibrate. | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | The McMaster ultra smooth travel threaded rods should make it work | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | surprisingly well. | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | I'd probably build a small machine like the green one here... | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc_router_table_machines/109390-my_newest_desktop_machine.html | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | I'd guess it can do as fine as most anything else. Industry can't sell machines | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | made from MDF frames...too 'cheap' looking....but it's an ideal material | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | for tiny detailed work. Vibrations just don't move well through it...;) | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | I bet it'd work very well. | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | :)" | 18:37 |
| kanzure | mdf? :( | 18:38 |
| nmz787 | :/ | 18:38 |
| nmz787 | fenn: we could use an opinion ^ | 18:38 |
| kanzure | iirc he has a negative opinion on mdf cnc routers too | 18:38 |
| nmz787 | i dunno, we're not torquing it really since it's light | 18:40 |
| nmz787 | photons* | 18:41 |
| nmz787 | laser* | 18:41 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: so what about the transcoding | 18:43 |
| kanzure | you've lost me. do you mean between a chip and stepper controller? | 18:44 |
| kanzure | oh you mean w.r.t that post. i see. i'll look in a second. | 18:45 |
| nmz787 | mediawiki -> markdown conversion | 18:46 |
| nmz787 | I thought you already had that plugin | 18:46 |
| nmz787 | mediawiki2ikiwiki? | 18:46 |
| kanzure | mediawiki2ikiwiki.py is just a script that converts | 18:47 |
| kanzure | but its output sucks | 18:47 |
| kanzure | https://gist.github.com/3231461#file_output.md | 18:47 |
| kanzure | the mediawiki.pm perl module is the ikiwiki plugin, except it hardly works either: | 18:47 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq | 18:47 |
| nmz787 | no index is the problem? | 18:51 |
| kanzure | faq is faq.mediawiki | 18:52 |
| kanzure | then there's a folder faq/ | 18:52 |
| kanzure | so http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq is displaying faq.mediawiki being run through the mediawiki plugin | 18:52 |
| nmz787 | so the gist page is what it is on the server ? | 18:53 |
| kanzure | the gist page has multiple files | 18:53 |
| kanzure | git clone git://gist.github.com/3231461.git | 18:53 |
| kanzure | i am doing a hand-written version here: https://gist.github.com/3231461#file_custom.md | 18:53 |
| kanzure | (but i am only partly done) | 18:53 |
| nmz787 | what is the gist server, and why is it there /and/ on gnusha? | 18:57 |
| kanzure | github has a pastebin server called gist | 18:58 |
| kanzure | i wanted to test what the markdown looks like without cluttering up diyhpluswiki.git | 18:59 |
| kanzure | i could have used a branch i guess | 18:59 |
| kanzure | gist.github.com is just for temporary things | 18:59 |
| kanzure | or, rather, that's how i treat it (some people use it for long-term stuff, but w/e) | 18:59 |
| nmz787 | ahh ok | 19:00 |
| nmz787 | yeah just read some blog about it | 19:00 |
| nmz787 | explaining that | 19:00 |
| kanzure | pastebins are wonderful things | 19:02 |
| jrayhawk | 'newrepo testwiki' is also an option | 19:06 |
| AlonzoTG | om | 19:12 |
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| kanzure | qt on android http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/02/28/necessitas/ | 19:24 |
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| skorket | have you guys made a microfluidic pcr chip? | 19:45 |
| kanzure | nope, but jojack made a prototype of some "microfluidic" device that turned out into some giant usb stick | 19:46 |
| nsh | eh? | 19:46 |
| skorket | you and nmz787 are developing a microfluidic system, though, no? | 19:47 |
| kanzure | nsh: he did that with rob carlson, it's a long and annoying story | 19:47 |
| nsh | i'll pass then | 19:48 |
| kanzure | skorket: sort of, haha. currently we're trying to figure out where nmz787 is moving to, or whether or not fenn is alive. | 19:48 |
| * nsh hopes fenn is alive | 19:48 | |
| kanzure | skorket: it's hard to build things when i have to buy multiple labs or something | 19:48 |
| skorket | no, I know, doing stuff without an industrial lab or without millions of dollars is a real bitch | 19:49 |
| nsh | just use other people's | 19:49 |
| skorket | I'm not being judgemental, I'm just asking | 19:49 |
| nsh | there's no shortage of labs | 19:49 |
| nsh | and in my experience they're not running particularly close to capacity | 19:49 |
| kanzure | nsh: so, i have to buy equipment for 3 separate hackerspaces? come on | 19:49 |
| skorket | but the idea was that you would be making microfluidic pcr chips, amongst other things? | 19:50 |
| nsh | i don't see why you have to buy anything; just use things | 19:50 |
| kanzure | nsh: most hackerspaces don't have a micron-resolution laser cutter, or photolithography setups | 19:50 |
| kanzure | so you usually have to buy these chemicals | 19:50 |
| kanzure | nsh: unless you know something i don't. | 19:50 |
| nsh | very doubtful :) | 19:51 |
| kanzure | skorket: the idea was to build a micron-resolution laser cutter.. http://diyhpl.us/cgit/laser_etcher | 19:51 |
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| kanzure | nsh: don't be facetious, i was honestly wondering if you know something i'm forgetting | 19:51 |
| nsh | i just don't see, strictly, why you can't go into somebody's very flush research facility and work there | 19:51 |
| kanzure | because they charge you | 19:51 |
| nsh | explaining that "i'm doing science" | 19:51 |
| nsh | and ignore protestations | 19:51 |
| kanzure | or want you to sign over your IP | 19:51 |
| kanzure | (what IP?) | 19:51 |
| kanzure | the stanford microfluidics foundry charges about $300-$400/mask | 19:52 |
| kanzure | but i'm not convinced that masked lithography is the best route | 19:52 |
| nsh | yeah, maybe best not to ask the people wearing ties | 19:52 |
| kanzure | especially with multiple revisions | 19:52 |
| nsh | the ones with the keycards are more reasonable | 19:52 |
| kanzure | nsh: well, if you know someone, let me know.. don't beat around the bush | 19:52 |
| nsh | no i really don't, i'm being philosophical. don't waste your time :) | 19:52 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: a plane ticket from here to austin is $318 | 19:53 |
| nmz787 | do you have sleeping bag floorspace? i could come hang out there and build this damn thing | 19:53 |
| kanzure | i have an extra room | 19:54 |
| kanzure | with a bed and bathroom | 19:54 |
| kanzure | please occupy it | 19:54 |
| nmz787 | hrmm | 19:55 |
| nmz787 | i could come down for 2 weeks probably for a work-a-thon | 19:56 |
| kanzure | my house isn't very exciting. it's good for sleeping. | 19:57 |
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| nmz787 | do you have desks? | 20:03 |
| nmz787 | or milk crates at least, or cardboard boxes? | 20:03 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: i have an unlimited supply of cardboard boxes and cardboard forts | 20:06 |
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| nsh | cardboard forts you say? | 20:09 |
| * nsh looks at flights | 20:09 | |
| nmz787 | where are you nsh? | 20:10 |
| nsh | england | 20:11 |
| nmz787 | :O | 20:11 |
| nsh | it's a long and not particularly subsidised haul | 20:11 |
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| nsh | why are you guys all wearing the same shirt? | 20:23 |
| yashgaroth | the jig is up | 20:24 |
| nsh | the game's a bogey | 20:24 |
| nsh | as they say in glasgow | 20:24 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: e8b6881 move faq.mediawiki -> faq.mdwn | 20:25 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a8d71b7 remove the pathetic attempt at automatically converting the faq to markdown | 20:25 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: a580c67 markdown version of diybio/faq | 20:25 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/ | 20:25 |
| kanzure | i have come to the conclusion that the reason why the mediawiki-to-markdown conversion looks like ass is because the original document was poorly formatted to begin with | 20:25 |
| kanzure | and not only that, but the actual "questions" in this FAQ are totally bogus | 20:25 |
| kanzure | nobody asks this shit | 20:25 |
| nmz787 | like what? | 20:26 |
| nsh | please tell me you're doing all this for some more general purpose than having a revision history of a poorly composed and infrequently read FAQ? | 20:27 |
| kanzure | "Are there historical precedents or prior cases which have demonstrated similar issues?" | 20:27 |
| nsh | otherwise it's been a lot of work | 20:27 |
| kanzure | nobody asks that question | 20:27 |
| kanzure | they just ask "PCR??????" | 20:27 |
| kanzure | nsh: well, there really reaaally should be a good FAQ | 20:27 |
| kanzure | i started this one in 2009 and it grew into this | 20:27 |
| nsh | maybe scrap that one and write a new one | 20:27 |
| nsh | and forget about markdown and mediawiki | 20:27 |
| kanzure | the sad thing is that only 12 different people edited this | 20:28 |
| kanzure | and i think i might have been 3 of those | 20:28 |
| * nsh chuckles | 20:28 | |
| kanzure | and of the people that did edit, they mostly added links to their own stuff | 20:29 |
| kanzure | which is sorta okay | 20:29 |
| kanzure | but they weren't substantial fixes or updates | 20:29 |
| nsh | why don't you do a web seminar on the subject. start and end with Q&A then rebase the FAQ on the dialogue you get | 20:30 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: why aren't you committing the changes to gnusha? | 20:30 |
| nsh | or even better, find some actual meaty schoolchildren and talk to them | 20:30 |
| kanzure | nmz787: i just did | 20:30 |
| kanzure | nsh: because webinars are stupid | 20:30 |
| kanzure | nsh: there are tons of questions on the diybio list | 20:30 |
| kanzure | i think that's a sufficient base to work with | 20:30 |
| kanzure | except nobody is willing to type up that content into a faq | 20:30 |
| nsh | ah, right | 20:30 |
| nmz787 | we need an index i think | 20:30 |
| nsh | kanzure, if you curate the emails and send them to me, i might be convinced to write it up | 20:31 |
| nmz787 | that's somewhat automagic in mediawiki, it should prob be a feature in iki | 20:31 |
| nsh | not so keen on trawling through archives though | 20:31 |
| kanzure | nsh: if i curate them i've already done the work | 20:31 |
| nmz787 | er table of contents | 20:31 |
| nsh | kanzure, possibly | 20:32 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: http://ikiwiki.info/plugins/toc/ | 20:32 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 71be4ab add a table of contents to diybio/faq | 20:32 |
| nmz787 | damn you're quick | 20:32 |
| nmz787 | i by the time i clicked edit | 20:32 |
| nmz787 | it was there | 20:32 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 5766e90 increase the number of levels in the toc in diybio/faq | 20:32 |
| kanzure | clicking is for losers | 20:33 |
| kanzure | "## Webcasts on social implications" | 20:33 |
| kanzure | so why doesn't that show up as a second-level header? | 20:33 |
| kanzure | e.g. a subsection | 20:33 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: will it crash if i'm editing in the 'edit' tab of ikiwiki? and you're doin commits during that time? | 20:33 |
| kanzure | no it wont crash | 20:33 |
| kanzure | git is very good at merging | 20:34 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: actually, what happens on the web-side? | 20:34 |
| kanzure | i know how it works when there's a merge conflict from the command line side | 20:34 |
| kanzure | but haven't experienced that from the web-end | 20:35 |
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| kanzure | so according to the markdown spec, "#" and "##" should be two separate levels. why isn't the toc rendering that as a subsection? | 20:37 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 18c1294 | 20:38 |
| nmz787 | i just clicked save after a while of being in web edit | 20:38 |
| nmz787 | did it merge or overwrite? | 20:38 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: i removed the ----------------------------------- and the levels work | 20:39 |
| kanzure | oh hrm | 20:39 |
| nmz787 | it was on line 2 | 20:39 |
| kanzure | no there's no merge because i wasn't editing | 20:39 |
| nmz787 | but it debolded the header | 20:39 |
| nmz787 | ok | 20:39 |
| nmz787 | but i may have started with an older version | 20:39 |
| nmz787 | (11:38:36 PM) gnusha: diyhpluswiki.git: 18c1294 | 20:40 |
| kanzure | if you want to see the commit yourself you can pull it into your local git repository | 20:40 |
| kanzure | and type "git show 18c1294" | 20:40 |
| nmz787 | or http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/recentchanges/ | 20:40 |
| kanzure | kanzure@pikachu:~/code/diyhpluswiki/diybio$ git show 18c129483456f7390eea6dd5721efbdb18a9a196 | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 20:40 |
| kanzure | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1124612/ | 20:40 |
| kanzure | yes | 20:41 |
| kanzure | well, that's weird. | 20:41 |
| kanzure | oh i see. well the header was stupid anyway. it would probably work if the header was there, but the toc was above it. but there's already a header provided by default by the page template. | 20:42 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 98b520b | 20:42 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: i think this should work but it doesn't http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/laser_etcher | 20:44 |
| nmz787 | i fixed the header | 20:44 |
| kanzure | nmz787: i think you mean http://diyhpl.us/laser_etcher/ | 20:44 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/laser_etcher is a separate repo so it has a separate wiki | 20:45 |
| nmz787 | oO | 20:45 |
| kanzure | fenn moved it into a separate repo | 20:45 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: you might have better luck editing the wiki if you git clone it | 20:46 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 318ac92 | 20:46 |
| nmz787 | but no CSS :( | 20:46 |
| kanzure | git clone nmz787@diyhpl.us:/srv/git/diyhpluswiki.git | 20:46 |
| kanzure | nmz787: copy local.css from diyhpluswiki.git and put it into laser_etcher.git | 20:47 |
| nmz787 | i like the web interfaces! | 20:47 |
| kanzure | i'll add local.css.. one moment | 20:47 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: dd38604 stylesheet for ikiwiki | 20:48 |
| nmz787 | whoo hoo | 20:48 |
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| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 457db12 added index page | 20:48 |
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| nmz787 | so if i append .md to this http://diyhpl.us/laser_etcher/laser_etcher will it wikify? | 20:49 |
| kanzure | err, possibly... try it | 20:49 |
| kanzure | ikiwiki might be looking for .mdwn specifically, but .md sounds reasonable to me | 20:49 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 7c16b7d remove a tab from microfluidics.txt | 20:50 |
| nmz787 | how do i commit the push? | 20:51 |
| kanzure | wutnow? | 20:51 |
| nmz787 | then* | 20:51 |
| kanzure | so, you should do something like this: | 20:51 |
| kanzure | git mv laser_etcher laser_etcher.md | 20:51 |
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| nmz787 | i mv the file | 20:51 |
| nmz787 | o | 20:51 |
| kanzure | oh, then git add -u . | 20:51 |
| kanzure | with the period | 20:51 |
| kanzure | then git commit | 20:51 |
| kanzure | then git push | 20:52 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 82846c0 appended .md to laser_etcher | 20:54 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: c2c787e Merge branch 'master' of diyhpl.us:/srv/git/laser_etcher | 20:54 |
| nmz787 | wait now its out of revision | 20:55 |
| kanzure | what do you mean by that? | 20:55 |
| kanzure | oh, yep | 20:55 |
| kanzure | you deleted the file | 20:55 |
| kanzure | so, here is what i recommend: git revert | 20:55 |
| kanzure | then when you are reverted back to before the mistake, do "git mv laser_etcher laser_etcher.md" then commit then push that | 20:56 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 4bd17c3 blah | 20:56 |
| kanzure | hrmm | 20:56 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 4b10a5c blah | 20:57 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: ed3378b blah | 20:57 |
| kanzure | haha | 20:57 |
| kanzure | well, that's one way to do it | 20:58 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: i pushed a branch to laser_etcher.git and got this message: remote: fatal: Invalid revision range 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..81978405646550c013918e0235dcd1f33b8ae21b | 20:58 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 1667eae blah | 20:58 |
| kanzure | nmz787: so, that's an ok solution for now. here is how i would have fixed it: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/laser_etcher/log/?h=nmzfix | 20:59 |
| nmz787 | hmm? | 20:59 |
| kanzure | *shrug* it doesn't matter | 20:59 |
| nmz787 | did you fix it or did i? | 21:00 |
| kanzure | you fixed it | 21:00 |
| kanzure | what i linked you to is just a branch in the repository | 21:00 |
| kanzure | showing you an alternative | 21:00 |
| nmz787 | alternative? | 21:01 |
| kanzure | well when you deleted the file, my first method to fix the situation would be to go back in time and just act like the mistake never occurred | 21:01 |
| kanzure | but your alternative was to just paste the file back into the repository, which is certainly one way to do it | 21:01 |
| nmz787 | so how did you add nmzfix to a bunch of operations? | 21:02 |
| kanzure | haha | 21:02 |
| kanzure | i did this: | 21:02 |
| kanzure | git log | less <-- i looked here to find the latest commit that i wanted | 21:02 |
| kanzure | git checkout -b nmzfix 7c16b7d96d2ac2031f918d500a3e210ae9082f0f <--- 7c16b7 is what i wanted | 21:02 |
| kanzure | git mv laser_etcher laser_etcher.mdwn | 21:03 |
| kanzure | git commit -m"move laser_etcher -> laser_etcher.mdwn" | 21:03 |
| kanzure | git push bryan@diyhpl.us:/srv/git/laser_etcher.git nmzfix | 21:03 |
| nmz787 | :/ | 21:03 |
| kanzure | then i did "git checkout master; git pull origin master" to get your other changes that i missed while doing that | 21:03 |
| nmz787 | were you not already in master? | 21:04 |
| nmz787 | so are there two branches now? | 21:04 |
| kanzure | "git checkout -b nmzfix 7c16b7" created a new branch called nmzfix at 7c16b7 and switched me from master to nmzfix | 21:05 |
| kanzure | "git checkout master" was ultimately how i got back | 21:05 |
| kanzure | yeah there's two branches, but you're 100% welcome to ignore nmzfix, since i'ts completely inconsequential at this point | 21:05 |
| nmz787 | why did you do that? | 21:06 |
| kanzure | to show off an alternative to you | 21:07 |
| nmz787 | ahh ok | 21:07 |
| kanzure | 21:00 < kanzure> you fixed it | 21:07 |
| kanzure | 21:00 < kanzure> what i linked you to is just a branch in the repository | 21:07 |
| kanzure | 21:00 < kanzure> showing you an alternative | 21:07 |
| kanzure | (git can maintain multiple simultaneous branches and versions of files, but ikiwiki will always show just master unless we explicitly configure it to do otherwise) | 21:08 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: cc8ad7f added a toc and table for parts | 21:14 |
| nmz787 | can i just paste in raw html? | 21:17 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: cf50d31 testing raw html | 21:17 |
| kanzure | yes you can add raw html in most cases | 21:19 |
| kanzure | also .html files are acceptable | 21:19 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 0928491 chaged google iframe width | 21:20 |
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| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: c1e8124 link to laser_etcher wiki on the index page | 21:27 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: a9527b4 htmlify links in laser_etcher.mdwn | 21:31 |
| kanzure | hm that's stupid.. underscores in html links convert the text to italics? | 21:31 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 6873486 second attempt at linkifying links | 21:35 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 0c144a2 fix some quotation marks in link urls | 21:36 |
| kanzure | geeze, even with markdown links the underscores are italicized | 21:36 |
| kanzure | like here: http://diyhpl.us/laser_etcher/laser_etcher/ | 21:36 |
| kanzure | "http://fennetic.net/irc/laserablationprofile_power.pdf" is definitely the wrong url | 21:36 |
| nmz787 | it works | 21:36 |
| kanzure | yeah but if you look at the display name it is missing a few '_' characters | 21:37 |
| kanzure | i guess this is so that you can use markup in linking text | 21:37 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: f2ca365 escape underscores in link display text | 21:38 |
| nmz787 | to send my ssh key to gnush how can i append it to known_hosts ? | 21:38 |
| kanzure | you can just insert your public key into ~/.ssh/known_hosts | 21:39 |
| kanzure | there's also ssh-copy-id user@host which you run from your local machine to install your public key into a remote authorized_keys file | 21:40 |
| nmz787 | yeah the latter is what i wanted | 21:42 |
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| rdx | hi all | 21:46 |
| rdx | i am new here | 21:46 |
| rdx | looking for hacker | 21:46 |
| rdx | got work | 21:47 |
| rdx | pays good | 21:47 |
| nsh | what need done? | 21:47 |
| nsh | many danger?! | 21:47 |
| ParahSailin | am hacker, need work, need pay good | 21:47 |
| Adrian_G | rdx eh | 21:48 |
| yashgaroth | we talking mad haxxor, or just regular? | 21:48 |
| kanzure | we only specialize in bio haxxoring | 21:48 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure: huh; can you give me steps to reproduce that laser_etcher.git problem? | 21:48 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: [http://somesite.com/blah_blah_blah.pdf](http://somesite.com/blah_blah_blah.pdf) | 21:48 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: or blah blah blah <a href="http://somesite.com/blah_blah_blah.pdf">http://somesite.com/blah_blah_blah.pdf</a> | 21:49 |
| kanzure | in the case of markdown i think it makes sense that _ is interpreted as markdwon inside [] | 21:49 |
| kanzure | but not so much on the raw html element? | 21:49 |
| kanzure | *markdown | 21:49 |
| jrayhawk | first off, you want <http://somesite.com/blah_blah_blah.pdf> | 21:51 |
| gnusha | laser_etcher.git: 6fd82d4 add a picture of the laser etcher | 21:51 |
| kanzure | whaat | 21:51 |
| jrayhawk | that's part of markdown | 21:52 |
| kanzure | <link> is not valid html | 21:52 |
| kanzure | markdown links are always [crap](uri) | 21:52 |
| kanzure | "(700micron0.25254cm/s)" is also poorly formatted. so basically i have to remember to escape everything. hrm. | 21:53 |
| jrayhawk | I can't find anything cleaner than preformatting with backticks or indentation or backslash escaping | 21:54 |
| jrayhawk | for doing the wrong, bad thing that you insist upon | 21:55 |
| kanzure | okay. | 21:55 |
| kanzure | what's so bad about html, again? | 21:55 |
| jrayhawk | in HTML land you'd be using %5F | 21:57 |
| jrayhawk | oh no wait, i guess you don't need to encode that | 21:57 |
| nmz787 | rdx: what do you have cooking? | 21:59 |
| kanzure | sometimes people look at /list on an irc server and just randomly join channels looking for "hackers" | 21:59 |
| kanzure | so i assume rdx is spam | 21:59 |
| kanzure | erm.. i mean they go looking for "hackers" to do misdeeds out of frustration or anger | 22:00 |
| ParahSailin | rdx tried to sell me viagra | 22:00 |
| ParahSailin | or alt-711 | 22:00 |
| kanzure | did you buy? | 22:00 |
| ParahSailin | i have no bitcoin to pay him :( | 22:00 |
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| nsh | Coldfusion Version: 7 | 22:09 |
| nsh | Copyright (c) 1995-2006 Adobe Macromedia Software LLC. All rights reserved | 22:09 |
| nsh | no, sleep is definitely preferable to hacking the malaysian police portal for a semi literate stranger on irc with a dubious business model | 22:10 |
| kanzure | oh coldfusion </3 how i loathe the | 22:10 |
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| joshcryer | About time: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game | 22:17 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: so this guy says he'll figure out how long it'll take him to gather/assemble the micro MDF CNC and let me know the price | 22:18 |
| ParahSailin | can't believe so many people gave a stranger so much cash for no equity | 22:18 |
| nmz787 | a friend of mine is getting something larger from him and he is paying something like $777 | 22:19 |
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| bkero | I preordered an Oculus Rift before it was on kickstarter | 22:35 |
| bkero | and got the $800 one (the ST1080) | 22:35 |
| joshcryer | Is it good? | 22:39 |
| bkero | I haven't received it yet. | 22:43 |
| bkero | I'm building a wearable computer. | 22:43 |
| bkero | ETA is late August. | 22:44 |
| joshcryer | Ahh. | 22:45 |
| bkero | and a Hardkernel ODROID-X | 22:50 |
| bkero | and a 6-cell 18650 holder with buckboost to bring it up to 5V | 22:50 |
| bkero | and a couple different keyboard types. I managed to finagle a Frogpad 2, am getting a Twiddler 2.0, and have my bluetooth Model M. | 22:50 |
| kanzure | i should figure out a better thing than the model m | 22:51 |
| kanzure | it seems that nobody has been trying to make a faster keyboard | 22:51 |
| kanzure | stenography don't count | 22:51 |
| bkero | It's apparently not a very interesting problem to solve | 22:52 |
| bkero | and people have boners now about touchscreens | 22:52 |
| bkero | so chorded keyboard on touchscreen is the new shit | 22:52 |
| kanzure | ugh | 22:53 |
| ParahSailin | i dont think touchscreen could be very fast | 22:55 |
| ParahSailin | maybe an input glove | 22:56 |
| ParahSailin | or a camera with motion tracking | 22:56 |
| jrayhawk | there are touchscreens with tactile feedback | 22:56 |
| nmz787 | so what's the best mobile/chorded keyboard then? | 22:58 |
| nmz787 | or glove | 22:58 |
| joshcryer | Fucking touchscreens. | 23:01 |
| fenn | perky | 23:04 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109191 | 23:05 |
| nmz787 | I like this one pretty well http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126195 | 23:14 |
| nmz787 | but the split microsoft keyboards might be a little nicer | 23:15 |
| nmz787 | i've heard these are some of the best for ergonomics http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/ | 23:16 |
| nmz787 | it's not qwerty or dvorak tho | 23:17 |
| nmz787 | its 'ergo' or something | 23:17 |
| nmz787 | sry this http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm | 23:17 |
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| kanzure | fenn: hi | 23:31 |
| kanzure | is perky the name of a device or just a meepism | 23:31 |
| kanzure | ergonomics doesn't necessarily mean improved typing rate | 23:35 |
| fenn | perky: http://homepage2.nifty.com/perky/index.htm | 23:37 |
| fenn | chording keyboards are useless unless used for stenography | 23:37 |
| fenn | "I know that you believe you understand what you think I said but, I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - sig file | 23:39 |
| kanzure | the problem with stenography is that you can't just type what you mean. | 23:39 |
| fenn | oh, the problem is greater than just with stenography | 23:39 |
| kanzure | snnngrblt | 23:39 |
| Adrian_G | are there any ways to type with your thoughts | 23:39 |
| kanzure | Adrian_G: go away | 23:39 |
| kanzure | (i can't even read my own mind much less anyone else's) | 23:39 |
| fenn | i came up with a merge algorithm for semantic networks once.. | 23:40 |
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| fenn | the sidewinder is a pretty good keyboard. an extra perk is it can be used for software based stenography with plover | 23:42 |
| fenn | basically you pretend your qwerty keyboard is a steno keyboard | 23:42 |
| kanzure | i don't think the next great keyboard will coem from "alternative layouts" | 23:42 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: da90304 changes = to # for sectioning | 23:43 |
| kanzure | (i know plover isn't an alternative layout) | 23:43 |
| kanzure | *come | 23:43 |
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| fenn | it seems to me most of your output is text, so focusing on speeding up text output is a reasonable goal | 23:43 |
| fenn | (which steno does) | 23:44 |
| kanzure | steno makes lots of ambiguous junk that i have to go back and fix :( | 23:44 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b0be89c changed equipment.mediwiki to equipment.mdwn | 23:44 |
| kanzure | maybe i should practice plover regularly before i complain | 23:44 |
| fenn | most people take 2-3 years to learn | 23:44 |
| kanzure | yawn | 23:44 |
| fenn | traditional steno seems frightfully disorganized | 23:45 |
| fenn | oh yeah sure just make up new spellings for anything you want, yep | 23:45 |
| fenn | as far as i can tell there's not even any "one steno to rule them all" | 23:46 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: how does this line work [[!map pages="diybio/* and ! diybio/*/*"]] | 23:46 |
| kanzure | ! diybio/*/* means "not" | 23:46 |
| nmz787 | i want to add it to the faq so we can see equipment... or do we need to make a subdir? | 23:46 |
| nmz787 | got it | 23:47 |
| kanzure | i think the way to do it is to move faq.mdwn into faq/index.mdwn | 23:47 |
| kanzure | git mv faq.mdwn faq/index.mdwn | 23:47 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: 4b6778c added sub-page map | 23:47 |
| fenn | huh, look at that, content in the wiki | 23:47 |
| kanzure | fenn: with commit history from openwetware and hplusroadmap | 23:47 |
| fenn | how big is it? | 23:48 |
| kanzure | 400 commits | 23:49 |
| nmz787 | and howto do replace-all from cmdline using this regex '^= +' to '# ' | 23:49 |
| fenn | i guess i could just look.. (16MB) | 23:49 |
| kanzure | sed -i 's/^= /\# /g' blah.mdwn | 23:49 |
| nmz787 | explain the -i, s, and g | 23:49 |
| kanzure | "the StenoKnight CART Demo and Steno Versus Qwerty -- were made with Eclipse, my proprietary steno software" | 23:49 |
| fenn | rtfm | 23:49 |
| nmz787 | geez | 23:50 |
| nmz787 | :/ | 23:50 |
| kanzure | what's this proprietary software that the plover guy is pushing? | 23:50 |
| fenn | it's not her software | 23:50 |
| kanzure | nmz787: -i is edit in place (this is sort of dangerous in sed; but never try "not" editing in place while simultaneously redirecting the output to the input file, this breaks things) | 23:50 |
| fenn | it's just the software she uses for work stuff, because plover doesn't work right yet | 23:50 |
| kanzure | and the rest is a regular expression | 23:50 |
| kanzure | "But I'd love to see new Plover users racing on TypeRacer with their n-key rollover keyboards" | 23:50 |
| kanzure | challenge accepted | 23:51 |
| kanzure | "my brief for "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" (which, along with "antidisestablishmentarianism", is the first word people tend to say when they notice they're being transcribed in realtime), " | 23:52 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: ee35611 changed = to # in educational, changed extension to mdwn | 23:54 |
| kanzure | http://stenoknight.com/plover/ploverdemo/ploverdemo.html | 23:54 |
| kanzure | javascript i guess | 23:54 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: so i changed text, then tried git commit -m 'msg' | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | # On branch master | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | # Changes not staged for commit: | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | # (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed) | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | # (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory) | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | # | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | #modified: educational.mdwn | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | # | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a") | 23:56 |
| nmz787 | i tried pull and it's all up to date | 23:57 |
| gnusha | diyhpluswiki.git: b1ea945 changed = to # in educational, added toc | 23:57 |
| nmz787 | why did i have to add the file? | 23:57 |
| nmz787 | it seemed to already exist | 23:57 |
| kanzure | you have to type "git add educational.mdwn" | 23:57 |
| nmz787 | why? | 23:58 |
| kanzure | "git add" is about choosing which changes you want to put into the upcoming commit | 23:58 |
| nmz787 | i already did git mv educational.mediwiki educaitonal.mdwn | 23:58 |
| nmz787 | and pushed it | 23:58 |
| kanzure | git will only store a change if you tell it to | 23:59 |
| nmz787 | why wouldn't anything modified be committed? | 23:59 |
| nmz787 | oh | 23:59 |
| kanzure | because you didn't tell it to :P | 23:59 |
| nmz787 | weird | 23:59 |
| kanzure | git add -u . <-- this will update everything in the directory | 23:59 |
| kanzure | but usually i hand-pick the files i want to have in a commit, especially in software projects | 23:59 |
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