2012-08-04.log

--- Log opened Sat Aug 04 00:00:28 2012
klafkabrownies cool, i live in east oakland00:00
browniesoh word00:04
browniesyou go to school?00:04
klafkanah00:12
klafkai work in tech00:12
browniesstartup?00:13
klafkayeah00:15
klafkaright now in menlo park but soon to one in soma00:15
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nmz787skorket: yeah00:36
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browniesthat's a rough commute man01:08
browniesklafka: which startup?01:08
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klafkayeah i know that's part of my leaving :P01:09
klafkaright now i work at badgeville and i'm moving to playhaven01:09
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kanzurehrrm10:18
kanzurehttps://tindie.com/10:23
kanzureesty for.. meh nevermind10:23
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klafkahahaha10:26
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browniesah, modern technology. https://tindie.com/hugs/robot-that-plays-angry-birds/11:55
Hasplawl11:58
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klafkatruly what a world to live in12:23
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kanzurepoke17:35
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* sylph_mako bleeds profusely through the finger-wound.17:38
kanzuresylph_mako: just be sure to take your blood thinners17:41
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delinquentmewhats the hardware that you guys were hacking a while back that is a really cool looking head .. almost wreath like structure18:37
delinquentmeor monitor brain activity /18:37
delinquentmemind / computer bridge18:37
delinquentme... there was also a ted talk on it18:37
kanzurethere is no such thing as a "mind computer bridge" except your hands18:38
delinquentmekanz you did the work on it18:39
kanzurethat's how i know it sucks18:39
delinquentmeyeah whats it called18:39
kanzureare you talking about eeg things?18:39
delinquentmei just want to show it to someone18:39
kanzureopeneeg18:40
kanzureemotiv18:40
delinquentmeI think... there was a ted talk on it18:40
kanzureneurosky18:40
delinquentmeemotiv!18:40
kanzurehttp://17startup.com/19:02
kanzurewhat is it with the chinese and naming websites with numbers?19:02
augurkanzure: is it some trend thats more common with chinese websites than with american ones?19:20
ParahSailinyi qi also means together19:20
augurbecause i havent noticed this19:20
ParahSailinso its kind of a pun19:20
ParahSailin1 7 = yi qi = together19:21
ybitprobably because it's the easiest way to get a dotcom with a relatively easy word to memorize19:57
ybitre: 19:02 < kanzure> what is it with the chinese and naming websites with numbers?19:57
ParahSailini just gave the answer20:01
ParahSailinchinese like to make lots of puns with arabic numerals20:01
ParahSailin88 = good bye20:02
ParahSailin"ba ba" ~ bye bye20:02
kanzureaugur: 164 is another popular one20:02
auguryi liu si20:05
augurhmm20:05
augurParahSailin: does that mean anything interesting?20:05
ParahSailin一路死 go to death20:06
augur:X20:06
ParahSailinthat wouldnt be a very auspicious web site20:06
ParahSailinin general 4 is a bad number for chinese20:06
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ybitso 4444 would be doom20:27
ybiti kind of envision ParahSailin facepalming right now :)20:31
augurybit: what about a 4-dimensional cube of 4's20:40
augurinstead of a lin20:40
augure20:40
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gnushadiyhpluswiki.git: 4035b43 21:18
kanzurejrayhawk: where did rmuser or deluser go in pinyhelp?21:20
kanzureoh you probably just want me using userdel21:21
gnushadiyhpluswiki.git: 61f75b8 Revert "(no commit message)".21:22
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kanzurenmz787: hi21:39
sheenanmz787: did you get your FNA figuredout?21:40
nmz787FNA?21:42
sheenaFine Needle Aspirate?21:43
nmz787oh, no21:43
sheenaI can't help any on the where, but it's a pretty simple procedure to do.21:43
nmz787have you done it?21:44
sheenaon animals21:45
sheenai've done a few, and looked at slides for some21:46
nmz787where are you?21:46
sheenacell ID can be tricky though, if you're not terribly familiar with it21:46
nmz787wanna try me?21:46
sheenathe interior of British Columbia, Canada21:46
nmz787oh21:46
sheenasorry21:46
sheenabut, i bet there's good how-to's on youtube21:50
nmz787kinda far to go21:50
sheenayou can't go too wrong if you have a discrete mass21:50
nmz787i could have my mom do it probably21:50
sheenayou're in the states somewhere.. NY?21:50
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nmz787yes21:50
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sheenahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kFaHoq5WCg this is pretty good. I've only done it with the syringe for aspirating, but just-needle should work also.21:51
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sheenai dunno what the laws are in NY, or elsewhere, but you might be able to make the slides and send them out to be looked at.. maybe21:54
ParahSailinfine needle aspirate?22:00
ParahSailini tried to do that to get some subcutaneous tissue once22:00
nmz787how'd it go?22:01
ParahSailincouldnt really get anything22:01
ParahSailini was probably trying to do it all wrong22:01
nmz787looks pretty simple, except there's a nerve that runs right around there, so it may need more finesse22:03
nmz787the site that i want to look at is only the size of maybe a peppercorn22:03
ParahSailinoh shit what are you doing22:03
nmz787or popcorn kernel22:03
nmz787extracting adrenochrome from myself22:04
nmz787j/k22:04
nmz787i've got a little mass on my http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parotid_gland#Innervation22:05
nmz787it could be infection, a stone in the salivary tube, or tumor22:05
nmz787but i think i've had the mass there for a few years, always thinking it was some ingrown hair causing the inflammation... or a really subsurface pimple or something22:06
nmz787kanzure: do you think we should manually approve all first comments or something for the wiki?22:07
nmz787if all you need to do is that link to get an account22:07
kanzurewell, it's easy to revert edits22:08
kanzurevery easy to fix things when they screw up22:08
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kanzurebut, it would be nice to have a branch where we have an 'official' version or something22:09
kanzureso approved edits get put into the official version or something22:09
kanzureand then we can have a separate wiki showing the 'official' version?22:09
kanzurejrayhawk: what's the right way to handle this?22:09
nmz787i just dont want shit getting spammed to hell22:11
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kanzurenmz787: understandable22:14
kanzureso this looks like an interesting way to graph data.. http://chartulo.us/ so you just pipe csv over http to them i guess22:15
kanzureand then they spit out a pastebin-esque link to a graph22:15
kanzurei don't see why they don't just ask you to use curl22:15
kanzurecurl -X post -whatever data.csv http://chartulo.us/ and get back a pastebin-esque link22:16
nmz787whats the advantage over R or the openoffice type things22:17
kanzurepresumably this is a link you can paste to someone22:17
nmz787i guess if you don't like google docs22:18
kanzurei dunno, it's like pastebin or httpbin.org22:18
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sheenaif you're concious, you should be able to know if you're hitting a nerve.. go slow, use a smallish guage needle, and you should feel it in time to not.. yaknow.. break anything :)22:38
nmz787hmm22:47
nmz787feedback is a pretty good thing22:47
nmz787i suppose i could convince myself to do it22:47
nmz787what about dyes and fixatives?22:48
sheenashoudl be pretty easy to get from a basic chem supplier?22:49
sheenahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff-Quick that's what I'm familiar with, mostly22:51
sheenaits pretty easy22:51
sheenahttp://www.thermoscientific.com/ecomm/servlet/productsdetail_11152___12983279_-1 ?22:54
nmz787to check for cancer wouldn't you want to stain the DNA22:59
nmz787to check for chromosomal abnormalities?22:59
nmz787translocations and such22:59
nmz787or breakage22:59
nmz787i wonder how the diff-quick is for DNA over traditional giemsa23:00
sheenayou're going much higher zoom than i ever have, if you're looking at the DNA..23:00
nmz787oh23:01
nmz787it was just what the wiki page said for giemsa23:01
sheenaif you're putting cells on a slide, to examine them, you will want to fix and stain them23:02
sheenathat's the extent of my familiarity. i've not done any electrophoresis or dna analysis at all..23:02
nmz787i could try to grow them... if they stay alive, they're not normal cells anymore :P23:02
sheenalmao23:02
sheenagood luck with that23:02
sheenaso bryan seems to think you might know about blood chemistry tests..23:23
kanzurespectral things.23:23
kanzureParahSailin: did you know about this? http://lorenzosbrain.blogspot.com/23:36
ParahSailin'neuroradiology'23:38
ParahSailindidnt know he was epileptic23:41
kanzurei think the point is he used to be23:41
ParahSailinsucks that hes back in italy23:41
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