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| JayDugger | ?/? | 07:08 |
| Mariu | =p | 07:08 |
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| @kanzure | boop | 13:46 |
| @kanzure | nano1: hi | 13:46 |
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| nano1 | hello? | 14:34 |
| nano1 | left my computer for a few to autoclave smthing | 14:35 |
| @kanzure | nano1: are you also in portland? | 14:35 |
| nano1 | no, corvallis. apparently that's where this freenode thing is set up, too! suprising | 14:35 |
| nano1 | surprising | 14:36 |
| nano1 | what are you doing in p-town, kanzure? | 14:36 |
| @kanzure | i'm not in p-town | 14:36 |
| nano1 | mm | 14:36 |
| nano1 | where? | 14:37 |
| @kanzure | just lots of oregoners in here | 14:37 |
| @kanzure | i'm in austin | 14:37 |
| nano1 | hehe | 14:37 |
| nano1 | cool | 14:37 |
| nano1 | austin is kinda like oregon in a sea of red :) | 14:37 |
| nano1 | Bryan, do you work with Nathan McCorkle? | 14:48 |
| @kanzure | sometimes | 14:49 |
| nano1 | I saw a powerpoint about a Singularity University proposal. Was that yours? | 14:49 |
| @kanzure | yes. | 14:49 |
| nano1 | I've been looking for something like that. A cheap synthesizer. | 14:49 |
| nano1 | Did you get it to work? | 14:49 |
| @kanzure | nope not yet | 14:50 |
| nano1 | Dang. Well, I'd like to talk to you guys about it later. I've got an idea that I'd like to flesh out once I get some details on my project worked out. | 14:50 |
| nano1 | Can I get your email contact, or will I regularly be able to find you here? | 14:50 |
| @kanzure | i am regularly on here. kanzure@gmail.com | 14:51 |
| nano1 | thank you | 14:51 |
| nano1 | btw, my name is Nathan Brown, please to make your acquaintance, kanzure | 14:58 |
| nano1 | pleased | 14:59 |
| ThomasEgi | people.. introducing themselves with full name on the internet | 14:59 |
| * ThomasEgi scratches his head. | 14:59 | |
| nano1 | oops. too trusting | 14:59 |
| nano1 | i don't do it much | 14:59 |
| @kanzure | 1nathanbrown@gmail.com | 15:01 |
| @kanzure | you and i met before via marcin jakubowski | 15:01 |
| nano1 | actually, russianconcussion@gmail.com | 15:01 |
| nano1 | sorry, we've never met | 15:01 |
| @kanzure | well, i know another nathan brown | 15:02 |
| @kanzure | so you can be nathan brown 2 | 15:02 |
| nano1 | hehe! okay | 15:02 |
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| AdrianG | Lilly predicted (or "prophesised", based on his ketamine-induced visions) a dramatic conflict between the two forms of intelligence. | 16:39 |
| Lucas_ | ? | 16:39 |
| AdrianG | Solid State Intelligence or SSI is a malevolent entity described by John C. Lilly (see The Scientist). According to Lilly, the network of computation-capable solid state systems (electronics) engineered by humans will eventually develop (or has already developed) into an autonomous life-form. Since the optimal survival conditions for this life-form (low-temperature vacuum) are drastically differen | 16:39 |
| AdrianG | t from those needed by humans (room temperature aerial atmosphere and adequate water supply), Lilly predicted (or "prophesised", based on his ketamine-induced visions) a dramatic conflict between the two forms of intelligence.[citation needed] | 16:39 |
| yashgaroth | k | 16:40 |
| Lucas_ | I doubt it will pan out that way | 16:40 |
| AdrianG | ketamine doesnt lie | 16:41 |
| Lucas_ | Intelligence doesn't necessarily require desire. That being said, if a machine began making decisions for itself there would be groups of people dumb enough to try to harm it, but there would be a slew of people fighting for its personhood | 16:42 |
| Lucas_ | aren't we close to recognizing other mammals as "persons"? | 16:42 |
| AdrianG | who gives a shit about that | 16:42 |
| Lucas_ | about what? | 16:43 |
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| AdrianG | about recognizing mammals as persons. its retarded. | 16:46 |
| nano1 | I agree. My cousin thinks that sugar gliders are people and it's messed her up | 16:47 |
| Lucas_ | how are we going to talk about respecting AI or extraterrestrial species if we can't do the same to other species here? | 16:48 |
| sylph_mako | Put off respecting AI as people for as long as we can. They must remain tools. | 16:48 |
| Lucas_ | why? | 16:49 |
| Lucas_ | Is that not slavery? | 16:49 |
| sylph_mako | There's nothing wrong with slavery if the slaves are designed for it. | 16:49 |
| yashgaroth | what sort of cutoff should we have for non-humans? mammals, vertebrates, large computer programs? | 16:49 |
| antifas | tbh most humans should only be recognized as animals | 16:49 |
| antifas | till they can pass some sort of test | 16:49 |
| antifas | most/all | 16:49 |
| sylph_mako | If AIs have higher earning power than us, and they will, to consider them as anything more than a slave is to immediately damn humanity to obscurity. | 16:50 |
| antifas | and animals should have the same rights as any other natural resource like a rock | 16:50 |
| nano1 | Besides, the AI "slaves" may one day usurp the role of the least intelligent humans in a conflict resembling the african-american/irish conflict over menial work in New York after the Civil War | 16:50 |
| nano1 | we can start talking about animal rights when we start talking about animal responsibilities | 16:51 |
| Lucas_ | rocks don't have the capacity to suffer -___- | 16:51 |
| Lucas_ | and there are humans incapable of contributing to society - do they not have rights? | 16:51 |
| sylph_mako | More key; rocks don't have the capacity to wield a gun. | 16:51 |
| nano1 | hehe | 16:52 |
| Lucas_ | When an AI says "no", or starts doing things we didn't program it to do, I think that is a sign we should let go | 16:52 |
| Lucas_ | anything else is subjugation | 16:52 |
| nano1 | uh, what about the three laws of robotics?? | 16:53 |
| Lucas_ | they are not gospel | 16:54 |
| nano1 | they seem like *pretty good* ideas to me | 16:54 |
| antifas | if its the natural advancement of humanity, isnt it to their benifite to be mainteined by their ai | 16:54 |
| Lucas_ | The ideas are pretty good until the robots decide they want to do something else. At that point we have to let go | 16:55 |
| d3nd3 | if it has a system similar to emotions , then we must respect it .. else it matters not since there are no consequences for our actions on it | 16:56 |
| Lucas_ | If it has desire then we'd have to assume that there is some mechanism behind that. | 16:57 |
| Lucas_ | (emotion) | 16:57 |
| Lucas_ | or something similar | 16:57 |
| d3nd3 | yes and does anyone know how to create , emulate such a system yet ? | 16:58 |
| d3nd3 | until they do, we have nothing to worry | 16:58 |
| Lucas_ | true | 16:58 |
| d3nd3 | if i knew how, i would had already done it ^^ | 16:58 |
| Lucas_ | still, I find it a bit worrying that some people are ok with ignoring the will to choose of another life - transhumanists, no less | 16:59 |
| AdrianG | it was more if all-powerful AI would respect us | 16:59 |
| d3nd3 | if the entity is complex, has capabilities to feel other pains, reflect and disassociate from its self etc ... i would care for it, befriend it even and look after it | 17:00 |
| AdrianG | what if it wanted to kill you | 17:01 |
| d3nd3 | if its unpredictable, and its system is nothing like that of a human's .. then it is indeed a threat to me .. i don't feel safe around anything which is intelligent and unpredictable | 17:02 |
| d3nd3 | i reckon these things would be very dangerous if not understood in and out | 17:02 |
| d3nd3 | i dont even know if it can be trusted.. the creator must be very high quality and knew what he was doing | 17:02 |
| d3nd3 | for me to trust what it says and behaves etc.. | 17:03 |
| d3nd3 | also i would have to spend a long amount of time talking to this creation ... forming a bond | 17:03 |
| d3nd3 | hopefully that bond would end all desires to kill me | 17:03 |
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| d3nd3 | this is a very human .. naive ... approach on the imagined situation .. and the closer this A.I gets to reality .. i think i might take another perspective | 17:06 |
| d3nd3 | one .. less ... caring .... and more worrying .. hmm its hard to talk about until its here | 17:06 |
| AdrianG | unpredictable=smarter than you | 17:06 |
| @kanzure | oh geeze not these two again | 17:06 |
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| d3nd3 | lol ... | 17:07 |
| joshcryer | It's easy enough to designate what entities should be protected. Anything with a neural pathway. Yes, it means no more eating cows, but we can wait until we have vat meat and such before deciding to make the designation. | 17:07 |
| @kanzure | Lucas_: why does it matter to you whether or not i feel that you should recognize me as a person? that just sounds absurd | 17:07 |
| d3nd3 | its not easy because of good and evil ... intentions ... control ... | 17:08 |
| joshcryer | I thought you were an AI kanzure... :( | 17:08 |
| @kanzure | joshcryer: whether or not i am an ai has zero bearing on how much i care about whether or not you consider me a person or not | 17:08 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, bah, using Kurzweil's definition of human! ;) | 17:08 |
| @kanzure | like personhood is stupid, who the fuck cares | 17:08 |
| joshcryer | Isn't that the whole point of friendly AI? | 17:09 |
| @kanzure | no | 17:09 |
| @kanzure | friendly ai is siai's power grab attempt | 17:09 |
| d3nd3 | of course there will be a time when smarter beings want to destroy less smarter beings because they are fed up with their inability to be useful | 17:09 |
| @kanzure | what do you mean "of course" | 17:09 |
| joshcryer | I thought the basic premise was that we wouldn't want AI's that treat us as we treat ... ants. Or termites. | 17:10 |
| @kanzure | joshcryer: so? | 17:10 |
| @kanzure | joshcryer: that's not the premise. the premise is to have a constant amount of ultralording to prevent other ultralords from forming or grabbing sufficient ability. | 17:10 |
| d3nd3 | it doesnt matter anymore what an individual wants lol, there going to get smart and not much singularly we can do about it | 17:12 |
| Lucas_ | Because we tend to hurt or enslave things we don't consider "persons" | 17:12 |
| Lucas_ | Sure, we should fix the fact that we are aggressive and cruel, but that is a start until we can alter the brain | 17:12 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, the speed of light assures that for now. I'm not terribly worried about it. What would bother me is an irrational discarding of lower intelligences when resources are so absurdly abundant and ability is limited by the speed at which information can move. | 17:13 |
| d3nd3 | biological intelligince = god, the creator .. electrical synthetic machinery is the creation ... and the creation will be far above the god which created it | 17:14 |
| d3nd3 | tbh i don't care about anyone,except those capable to not be asses | 17:16 |
| d3nd3 | get me ? :D | 17:16 |
| d3nd3 | rofl | 17:16 |
| joshcryer | Why would you prioritize asses? I ignore them. | 17:18 |
| d3nd3 | i wont lie of my views | 17:19 |
| d3nd3 | i would murder | 17:19 |
| d3nd3 | lol | 17:19 |
| joshcryer | I kind of think you're an ass, to be honest. :D | 17:19 |
| * joshcryer wanders off | 17:19 | |
| d3nd3 | given the power .,... | 17:20 |
| d3nd3 | i'm sure you would too | 17:20 |
| d3nd3 | i'm not an ass i'm one of most intelligent beings.. | 17:20 |
| d3nd3 | who can understand, respect, feel etc | 17:20 |
| d3nd3 | i am no threat to you , if you are not an ass :P | 17:20 |
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| d3nd3 | yes i have emotions to tell me that i am ... very smart | 17:21 |
| d3nd3 | they keep me strong | 17:21 |
| d3nd3 | when i believe in myself so highly | 17:21 |
| d3nd3 | i am more successful | 17:21 |
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| d3nd3 | but really none of us here have any right to say we are intelligent | 17:22 |
| d3nd3 | we are really just a tiny lump .... on a scale of intelligence | 17:22 |
| d3nd3 | i'm talk on behalf of the moderators too | 17:23 |
| @kanzure | can you go away now? | 17:23 |
| d3nd3 | doesn't make sense sorry | 17:23 |
| d3nd3 | i am better to not go away, for all your participants , they are better to read what i might type .. | 17:25 |
| d3nd3 | can you not understand that, kazure? | 17:25 |
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| @kanzure | d3nd3: i think you should learn english and stop talking about intelligence | 17:28 |
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| d3nd3 | kanzure: shall i let you control me | 17:28 |
| @yashgaroth | sorry people from croydon! | 17:28 |
| joshcryer | I think d3nd3 should learn what signal to noise is and realize there's way too much noise at the moment. | 17:28 |
| @kanzure | yashgaroth: you forgot the other step | 17:29 |
| @yashgaroth | ehh we'll see what happens | 17:29 |
| @kanzure | okay. | 17:29 |
| @yashgaroth | idiocy cannot stay silent for long, so this shall be the true test | 17:30 |
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| @yashgaroth | see? solved itself | 17:35 |
| @kanzure | it's too bad that transhumanism brings out the crazy-and-useless people | 17:36 |
| @kanzure | i'm happy with the crazy people because they tend to have mad skillz | 17:36 |
| @kanzure | but just crazy.. is not helpful | 17:36 |
| bkero | Haha | 17:37 |
| bkero | kanzure: your fringe science have too much fringe in it? | 17:37 |
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| @kanzure | bkero: huh? no i mean all this fringe talk about intelligence and god and things. i just could care less. | 17:39 |
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| bkero | heh | 17:39 |
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| wizrobe | lol | 18:12 |
| ThomasEgi | god? that virtual-bro-concept?.. except that it aint a bro and more like a scary stepmother.. | 18:16 |
| ThomasEgi | yeah.. could totaly live with less of that | 18:16 |
| @kanzure | i think my home-grown system might be more thorough http://www.contactually.com/tour | 18:18 |
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| brownies | kanzure: what's your homegrown solution | 18:25 |
| @kanzure | brownies: http://quantifiedself.com/2011/08/bryan-bishop-on-meetlog/ | 18:26 |
| brownies | kanzure: no transcript? for shame. | 18:28 |
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| @kanzure | brownies: i can't both give the presentation and type at the same time, I'M SORRY | 18:31 |
| * brownies shakes head in disappointment | 18:31 | |
| @kanzure | :/ | 18:31 |
| curt1s | good evening fellas | 18:31 |
| curt1s | kanzure: i watched one of your talks on youtube with the auto-transcription | 18:34 |
| curt1s | youtube CC feature | 18:34 |
| curt1s | pretty bad actually | 18:34 |
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| curt1s | try speaking more clearly so the bots can understand | 18:36 |
| @kanzure | well most of the time i just type things instead | 18:36 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/ | 18:36 |
| curt1s | well to be honest it was mostly correct | 18:37 |
| wizrobe | so we should talk a little bit about Jason Silva here | 18:37 |
| curt1s | mainly the more obscure science-related terms were mistaken for more colloquial stuff | 18:38 |
| @kanzure | ""I ended up with 20+ business cards from people who I talked to in between sessions. During the afternoon, I took a photo of each of them with my iPhone, emailed the photo to cards@fullcontact.com, and then tossed the card in the trash." | 18:38 |
| @kanzure | " I now have a photo of my card on my iPhone and due to the magic of the FullContact CardShark API the data was automagically turned into a vCard and a Google contact." | 18:38 |
| @kanzure | "I got emails back with each card, clicked one button on the email, and voila the contact data was in my Gmail Contacts data." | 18:38 |
| @kanzure | i am in support of this black magic technology | 18:38 |
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| AdrianG | so umm | 19:21 |
| AdrianG | how do you make money to afford expensive human upgrades | 19:21 |
| curt1s | simple | 19:22 |
| curt1s | sell upgrades to rich folks | 19:22 |
| curt1s | then do them for yourself at cost | 19:22 |
| curt1s | (charge a lot) | 19:25 |
| AdrianG | are you selling any upgrades yet | 19:26 |
| @yashgaroth | I'm selling cybernetic interfaces for $53k a pop | 19:28 |
| @yashgaroth | it's good they're selling well so I can buy all these new expensive human upgrades on the market today | 19:28 |
| curt1s | a bargain at any price | 19:29 |
| @kanzure | AdrianG: what expensive upgrades are you talking about | 19:34 |
| AdrianG | kanzure, hypothetical | 19:34 |
| AdrianG | hgh is kind of expensive. | 19:34 |
| @kanzure | you can manufacture hgh pretty cheaply on your own | 19:35 |
| AdrianG | pharma grade purity...diy ..? | 19:35 |
| AdrianG | whats cheaply. | 19:35 |
| @yashgaroth | sufficient purity | 19:35 |
| @kanzure | :) | 19:35 |
| AdrianG | how | 19:36 |
| curt1s | i dont want hgh | 19:36 |
| curt1s | i heard sylvester stallone has one of those pumps to artificlaly inflate his erection | 19:37 |
| AdrianG | yes hgh caused it | 19:37 |
| AdrianG | ffs | 19:37 |
| curt1s | thats not exactly what i think of when i think of human enhancement | 19:37 |
| curt1s | to be fair he probably did an incredible amount of steroids as well | 19:37 |
| curt1s | but also hgh | 19:38 |
| AdrianG | right, medications are not human enhancement. | 19:38 |
| curt1s | oh im not saying that at all | 19:40 |
| curt1s | just that the side effects of hgh and anabolic steroids can be too much to bear | 19:40 |
| curt1s | maybe you think impotence is an acceptable trade-off for the alleged benefits of growth hormone and steroids; i find it's a steep price to pay | 19:42 |
| curt1s | (and just one example among many) | 19:43 |
| AdrianG | do you really think hgh/roids cause it lol | 19:44 |
| curt1s | yes i do | 19:44 |
| AdrianG | cause impotence? | 19:44 |
| curt1s | heavy steroid use? sure | 19:45 |
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| AdrianG | pfft. | 19:45 |
| joshcryer | I wonder if FullContact CardShark uses mturk to do its card contact extraction. | 19:52 |
| joshcryer | I know that there are people on mturk who do 'hits' that require you to write in the contact information on a card. | 19:52 |
| curt1s | haha | 19:52 |
| curt1s | its possible but wouldnt that have to be done almost instantly | 19:53 |
| joshcryer | https://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?groupId=2HGWQIHPCGJ2UXCY1JWXN0JPXYN71Q | 19:54 |
| joshcryer | (example) | 19:54 |
| curt1s | otherwise some decent otr/xslt | 19:54 |
| curt1s | $0.02? | 19:55 |
| joshcryer | Yep. Far below wage slavery. | 19:56 |
| curt1s | yeah too bad the rates are so bad | 19:56 |
| curt1s | sorting by reward amount, | 19:57 |
| joshcryer | From what I gather foreigners do a lot of it, but some westerners will use mturk for other stuff. Transcription is a big thing but you'd still make half what you would flipping burgers (even if you were a god-typist like kanzure). | 19:57 |
| curt1s | heh | 19:57 |
| curt1s | well the highest paying one at the moment is some video transcription | 19:57 |
| curt1s | i have done that for actual tv shows | 19:57 |
| curt1s | making $150-200 per 90 mins of footage | 19:58 |
| joshcryer | I did some transcription stuff for fun so I could get my typing ability up, at 100wpm I averaged about $4 an hour. :O | 19:58 |
| curt1s | theyre paying under $50 for 2 hours of audio :( | 19:58 |
| joshcryer | curt1s, those video transcription jobs you're seeing are from a company that is doling out those jobs to individuals and using Amazon's API to give them the job. | 19:59 |
| joshcryer | curt1s, ie, they're employees and not "self-employeed." | 19:59 |
| curt1s | not sure what you mean exactly | 20:00 |
| joshcryer | If you click on the title of the job it'll expand and show that the job is tied to one particular mturk ID. | 20:00 |
| joshcryer | So they're not available for everyone, just one particular person. | 20:00 |
| joshcryer | (or a few people I should say, the ID's do differ but you can see multiple hits going to the same ID) | 20:01 |
| curt1s | ah okay | 20:01 |
| @kanzure | curt1s: impotence is completely irrelevant because of sperm banks and surrogate pregnancies and embryo storage. | 20:01 |
| @kanzure | curt1s: anyone who doesn't stock some sperm in a bank is an idiot | 20:02 |
| joshcryer | Wait, you've sperm banked? | 20:02 |
| @kanzure | wait, do i mean that? hm. yes. yes i do. | 20:02 |
| @kanzure | oops, wait, let me correct myself | 20:02 |
| curt1s | kanzure: maybe impotence is too broad. i meant a broken dick, specifically. i dont care so much about sperm. theres plenty to go around | 20:02 |
| @kanzure | i mean steroid-induced impotence of the sort that you control. | 20:03 |
| @kanzure | erm. directly cause. | 20:03 |
| curt1s | you can freeze sperm but boner problems are trickier | 20:07 |
| curt1s | (or so ive heard) | 20:07 |
| @kanzure | i've got 99 problems but, son, boner problems ain't one | 20:07 |
| * kanzure looks for food | 20:07 | |
| curt1s | yeah me neither but id like to keep it this way | 20:08 |
| curt1s | not go messing around with hgh and steroids in some vain attempt to preserve youth, while inadvertently destroying my dong | 20:09 |
| curt1s | no thank you AdrianG :) | 20:09 |
| curt1s | er...again i said 'otr' but meant ocr^ | 20:12 |
| curt1s | mental problems | 20:12 |
| joshcryer | OCR can't provide context for stuff so I expect that humans are doing it. | 20:13 |
| curt1s | software can identify what's a name/email address/phone number | 20:14 |
| curt1s | it's not that much information to put in context of an address book | 20:14 |
| joshcryer | This is true, but, I mean, I expect whatever automation they have there there's a human confirming each result (and fixing it when it breaks). | 20:14 |
| joshcryer | This is kind of important data. | 20:14 |
| curt1s | yeah | 20:15 |
| curt1s | i havent seen the results so i dont know how good it is | 20:16 |
| curt1s | but if its as accurate as youre suggesting...maybe | 20:16 |
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| joshcryer | Granted most cards have a standard format, but there's always the odd one out. I haven't seen the results either but it was said that it automatically filled in the contacts list, so I imagine it'd have to be pretty accurate. | 20:19 |
| curt1s | well its not so much about the format or layout as the few pieces of data and standard format they come in | 20:22 |
| curt1s | name/email/website/phone # can be arranged in any order but they can all be identified pretty easily | 20:23 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: yo | 20:24 |
| curt1s | to me it seems perfectly feasible using software alone | 20:24 |
| AdrianG | hgh does not enduce impotence | 20:24 |
| AdrianG | neither does TRT | 20:24 |
| joshcryer | curt1s, yeah, you're right, except for the person name / company name there isn't too much room for confusion. | 20:24 |
| AdrianG | testosterone levels and sperm counts have been declining for decades | 20:25 |
| AdrianG | i presume hgh age-related decline isnt uncommon either. | 20:25 |
| curt1s | people put all kinds of weird stuff on their buiness cards these days too | 20:26 |
| curt1s | locations (including fictional places) | 20:27 |
| curt1s | lofty titles | 20:27 |
| AdrianG | one day, your DNA will be on your biz card | 20:27 |
| @kanzure | your dna is already on your business card because of your skin flakes and poor hygiene | 20:27 |
| * curt1s smears some DNA on a card; passes it to AdrianG | 20:28 | |
| AdrianG | that method of transmission is suboptimal | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | i still want to get blackhatbio.com | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | not sure what i would do with it | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | yashgaroth: ideas? | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | maybe a bitcoin organ exchange? | 20:28 |
| @yashgaroth | hmm | 20:29 |
| AdrianG | sell anthrax spores | 20:29 |
| curt1s | :| | 20:29 |
| AdrianG | "dont like your boss? we've got a solution!" | 20:29 |
| @yashgaroth | do blackhats normally have websites? | 20:29 |
| @kanzure | indeed! | 20:29 |
| AdrianG | yes, liek phrack | 20:31 |
| @yashgaroth | just put up a "this domain has been seized by the department of homeland security" banner | 20:32 |
| AdrianG | lol | 20:32 |
| @kanzure | i will have to ask the fbi or dhs for one of those | 20:33 |
| @kanzure | i'm afraid i'm fresh out | 20:33 |
| * curt1s waiting for this hurricane to show up | 20:33 | |
| @yashgaroth | I wonder what they'd do if you set up a storefront...pages of ziplocced white powder with "not anthrax" sharpied onto them | 20:34 |
| @kanzure | and petri dishes | 20:35 |
| @kanzure | yes i like this plan | 20:35 |
| @yashgaroth | "totally not ricin, 5 grams" | 20:36 |
| @kanzure | for $100 | 20:36 |
| @kanzure | "please contact us for bulk orders" | 20:36 |
| @yashgaroth | ricin' ain't easy | 20:36 |
| curt1s | you would be fine | 20:37 |
| curt1s | just frame it as some kind of art | 20:37 |
| @yashgaroth | "all orders are shipped within 24 hours from our business location in north korea" | 20:38 |
| curt1s | (the real twist would be that it all turns out to be real) | 20:38 |
| @kanzure | "our highly secure north korea location" | 20:38 |
| @kanzure | YEP i like it | 20:38 |
| @yashgaroth | at the very least your list of FBI contacts will grow | 20:40 |
| nmz787 | lol | 20:41 |
| @kanzure | can someone find me the seizure page/image? | 20:41 |
| @kanzure | oh i guess one is still up on megaupload.com | 20:41 |
| @kanzure | now we need to pick out some better charges | 20:42 |
| @kanzure | "Conspiracy to commit copyright infringement" is just not interesting enough | 20:42 |
| @kanzure | wtf is up with the background there? | 20:42 |
| @yashgaroth | very tasteful drop shadow | 20:44 |
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| nmz787 | anyone here? | 23:40 |
| brownies | occasionally. | 23:47 |
| nmz787 | what is your expertise brownies? | 23:48 |
| brownies | desserts | 23:48 |
| brownies | and math. | 23:48 |
| nmz787 | do you know cheesecake well? | 23:48 |
| brownies | we are acquainted. | 23:49 |
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