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| archels | http://superstarsofscience.com/ | 06:05 |
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| archels | What in the fuck. | 06:05 |
| * ThomasEgi hands over the keys for the LOIC | 06:06 | |
| ThomasEgi | this is blasphemy.. this is madness! | 06:06 |
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| nmz7872 | archels: pretty cool site, first guy i clicked on is pretty awesome http://superstarsofscience.com/scientist/susumu-tonegawa | 09:25 |
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| nmz7872 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V(D)J_recombination | 09:26 |
| nmz7872 | weird the wikipedia article nor the v(d)j wiki article mention either other specifically | 09:27 |
| archels | nmz7872: I'm sure the scientists themselves are pretty cool, but a ranking site? What's next, a card game? | 09:27 |
| nmz7872 | maybe he was higher level than just V(D)J | 09:28 |
| nmz7872 | archels: sure | 09:28 |
| nmz7872 | I would rather see kids playing and collecting them than pokemon | 09:28 |
| nmz7872 | i don't wanna talk to kids about pokemon, hell i dont wanna talk to anyone about pokemon | 09:28 |
| nmz7872 | but i like talking science | 09:29 |
| nmz7872 | :) | 09:29 |
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| nmz787 | http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1987/tonegawa-lecture.pdf | 09:29 |
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| * kanzure cries a single tear | 09:30 | |
| nmz787 | the only menion in the nobelprize.org PDF of vdj is saying lerod hood et al. did it the legwork | 09:30 |
| nmz787 | kanzure you like those japanese anime cartoons but not a japanese scientist? | 09:31 |
| nmz787 | :P | 09:31 |
| nmz787 | geez, i should just say fuck dna synthesis and go make a cartoon about historical scientists coming back to life in the future to fight epic battles against evil or black holes or something | 09:32 |
| nmz787 | 'hah hah, i recombine your immune system so now you have autoimmune disease and I have defeat you' | 09:32 |
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| foucist | for great engrish! | 09:49 |
| ThomasEgi | nmz787, how bout fighting against the imperial unit system^? | 09:50 |
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| nmz787 | yes | 10:01 |
| nmz787 | that is another episode | 10:01 |
| chido | nmz787: I'd let you hire me to do the drawing | 10:08 |
| chido | nmz787: also, how is the mouse situation developing? | 10:08 |
| nmz787 | well, i was sad to let them go | 10:19 |
| nmz787 | i did it near some bushes in a parking lot | 10:19 |
| nmz787 | i probably should have taken them to a bigger park | 10:19 |
| nmz787 | they were just scampering around under the bush after I had bleach sprayed the bin and thrown away the food and paper liner i had in the bin | 10:19 |
| nmz787 | so i dunno, i feel like they're eaten or dead from not having a nest... but I could be underestimating instinct | 10:20 |
| nmz787 | they were definitely deer mice though | 10:20 |
| nmz787 | the ones who are known to be hanta virus reservoir | 10:20 |
| nmz787 | that doesn't mean they had hanta | 10:21 |
| nmz787 | but... | 10:21 |
| nmz787 | seems the only real treatment for hanta is breathing pure oxygen since its a respiratory thing | 10:21 |
| nmz787 | it's also RNA based, so I guess I could huff NaOH fumes or something to clean my lungs of RNA | 10:21 |
| brownies | how many moose did you have? | 10:21 |
| nmz787 | caught 2 | 10:22 |
| nmz787 | they were babies | 10:22 |
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| nmz787 | if they didn't possibly have a potentially fatal RNA virus in them, I prob woulda kept them | 10:22 |
| nmz787 | at least until I found a cat to feed them to or something | 10:22 |
| nmz787 | snake | 10:22 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: what is that mini-django framework? | 10:23 |
| @kanzure | flask | 10:23 |
| @kanzure | pyramid | 10:23 |
| nmz787 | flask? | 10:23 |
| nmz787 | cool | 10:23 |
| nmz787 | anyone in here a tv/monitor nerd? | 10:24 |
| nmz787 | thinking of buyin this 1080p TV http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD_HDTV/Specs/X408BV-FHD/X408BV-FHD%20MainPage.htm | 10:24 |
| nmz787 | $300 on amazon with free shipping | 10:24 |
| nmz787 | 8.5ms gtg | 10:24 |
| nmz787 | but i dunno how much that matters | 10:24 |
| nmz787 | isn't that like 117hz | 10:25 |
| nmz787 | whereas most video is only 24, 29.97 or 30 fps | 10:25 |
| nmz787 | unless you're a gamer | 10:25 |
| nmz787 | /join #debian-gamers | 10:29 |
| @kanzure | pylons | 10:30 |
| @kanzure | aaronsw made web.py but i dunno if anyone is still using that | 10:30 |
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| archels | 8 ms is not ultra fast | 10:37 |
| ThomasEgi | .. lcd panels have been "fast enough" for like a decade now. | 10:43 |
| ThomasEgi | i wonder why people still use those reaction times and stuff. | 10:44 |
| ThomasEgi | it's just marketing. | 10:44 |
| ThomasEgi | if you want to go for something. color reproduction might be an parameter that's worth the discussion. | 10:44 |
| ThomasEgi | speed is only really of interest when you'r using 3d shutter glasses. | 10:44 |
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| archels | Fast enough for what? There are still plenty of bad panels, of which the slow response time can easily be discerned by just looking. | 11:01 |
| archels | But I agree on the the colour reproduction. | 11:01 |
| ThomasEgi | archels, the last panel i know with slow respones are is the one in my now 12 year old backup-laptop. | 11:05 |
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| ThomasEgi | with the introduction of the active tft matrix , that problem was pretty much fixed. especially for tv as it doesnt require quite as fast response as gaming | 11:06 |
| ThomasEgi | color on the other hand.. there are still so many screens out there with yucky color reproduction.. | 11:07 |
| ThomasEgi | once you have had hands on somethig like a the iiyama displays used for traide fairs and exhibitions.. you'll see the world with different eyes | 11:08 |
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| nmz787 | but still isn't most video outputted by windows or debian 60 or 90hz | 11:38 |
| nmz787 | yeah i dunno there are a lot of screens that are 2ms, but i guess that's just for gamers | 11:39 |
| nmz787 | i code mainly and watch tv shows or movies, so 117 hz (8.5ms) seems more than sufficient | 11:39 |
| nmz787 | i don't like those new 120hz motion interpolation features some tvs have anyway | 11:39 |
| nmz787 | color is important though :{ | 11:39 |
| nmz787 | :P | 11:39 |
| TheEmpath | it is possible to use a radio frequency transmitter to extract hydrogen gas from saltwater, then ignite the gas to reach 1500 C. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiKa4nOkHLw | 11:45 |
| archels | 2007 | 11:48 |
| uf6667 | TheEmpath: I think a faster way is to create NaAlH4 | 11:55 |
| uf6667 | and control H2 production using water drip | 11:55 |
| uf6667 | the production is fairly fast at room temp, exothermic reaction | 11:55 |
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| nmz787 | for gene gun propulsion gas? | 12:03 |
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| jrayhawk | I actually do sub-millisecond-accuracy testing for this, and no, LCD timing issues are not a problem of the past. | 12:21 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: what's the effect? | 12:21 |
| jrayhawk | multiple frames of delay, sometimes variable | 12:22 |
| jrayhawk | this matters deeply to gamers and people doing screen-based timing tests. | 12:22 |
| nmz787 | ahh | 12:23 |
| nmz787 | so even though grey to grey is 8 ish ms (117hz max refresh rate) ,there's some wobble | 12:24 |
| nmz787 | so is that monitor dependent or graphics or CPU/scheduler? | 12:24 |
| jrayhawk | 'gtg' does not measure input latency. | 12:25 |
| jrayhawk | Basically every latency number advertisers use is useless. | 12:25 |
| jrayhawk | TN panels change color plenty fast, the problems are all in the lazily implemented firmware/controller logic. | 12:26 |
| jrayhawk | things like color correction, scaling, firmware settings UI display, etc | 12:28 |
| jrayhawk | I think the next monitor I get will be a Yamasaki Catleap 2B Extreme | 12:28 |
| jrayhawk | which blessedly has none of those things | 12:28 |
| jrayhawk | speaking of which, TN displays suck for viewing angle and color accuracy; small IPS panels are getting fairly affordable. | 12:29 |
| ybit | anyone know of other examples of skynet, a "fictional, self-aware artificial intelligence system " in terminator | 12:31 |
| ybit | a distributed self-aware system preferably | 12:31 |
| @kanzure | how about the solid state entity? | 12:31 |
| archels | HAL9000 | 12:35 |
| archels | also memory-alpha.org | 12:35 |
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| archels | Deep Thought from HHGG | 12:36 |
| @kanzure | pfft hal wasn't distributed. it was like a single core or something. ibm 386. | 12:37 |
| @kanzure | *ibm or 386. | 12:37 |
| @kanzure | i suppose ibm has been known to do distributed things, sometimes. | 12:38 |
| nmz787 | TN? | 12:38 |
| jrayhawk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD | 12:38 |
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| nmz787 | ahh | 12:39 |
| jrayhawk | #Types, specifically | 12:39 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: what do you think of this http://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-X408BV-FHD-39-Inch-1080p-Black/dp/B0081UUYWA | 12:40 |
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| nmz787 | www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD_HDTV/Specs/X408BV-FHD/X408BV-FHD MainPage.htm | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD_HDTV/Specs/X408BV-FHD/X408BV-FHD%20MainPage.htm | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | Viewing Angle178º (horizontal) / 178º (vertical) | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | i'm considering that, but also browsing craigslist for used panels around that same size | 12:44 |
| nmz787 | also looking for 22-24" computer displays for office work | 12:45 |
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| nmz787 | there are some decent looking 40 inchers on craigslist, samsung and sony, but they're 2-4 or 5 years old | 12:47 |
| nmz787 | so i dunno if its wise to get better brands, older, or the latest chinese clone | 12:47 |
| jrayhawk | Sonys theoretically have UPnP MediaServer-friendly firmware, though in practice it appears to be flaky as hell. | 12:49 |
| nmz787 | so i was asking this question in another channel, then pasted jrayhawk's comments and some dude got all pissed at me | 12:51 |
| nmz787 | saying i should have used pastebin | 12:51 |
| @kanzure | you probably should have used pastebin, yes | 12:51 |
| nmz787 | you post news articles sometimes though | 12:51 |
| nmz787 | why dont you put that into pastebin? | 12:52 |
| @kanzure | because you guys let me get away with it | 12:52 |
| nmz787 | great | 12:53 |
| nmz787 | you've allowed my neural network to be borked | 12:53 |
| @kanzure | most of the time i don't use pastebin for things in here because i can just upload a file to my server | 12:56 |
| @kanzure | e.g. error logs for nanoengineer should be persistent to help others with similar problems | 12:56 |
| jrayhawk | thankfully traffic in here is low enough that pasting shit doesn't really disrupt anything. | 12:57 |
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| nmz787 | hmm | 12:59 |
| jrayhawk | not that people don't still bitch about it for some reason | 13:00 |
| jrayhawk | like that time bryan imported the diyhpl.us faq during a lull in conversation and a bunch of people who never talk were all like "OH MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING" | 13:02 |
| jrayhawk | people are freakin' weird about personal obligations and signaling games | 13:03 |
| @kanzure | yeah well, that was stupid of me to do anyway | 13:03 |
| nmz787 | lol | 13:04 |
| nmz787 | that wasnt pasting though | 13:05 |
| nmz787 | that was a log bot | 13:05 |
| nmz787 | lol | 13:05 |
| nmz787 | at least we learned to ignore gnusha | 13:05 |
| nmz787 | (i have forgotten how to by now) | 13:05 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: hazmat and bioterror training, free in TX http://www.ahls.org/ahls/ecs/courses/syllabus.html?ctid=1 | 13:06 |
| @kanzure | is it evil bioterror training? | 13:06 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 13:06 |
| nmz787 | i guess it could be used that way | 13:07 |
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| strangewarp | Pastebin has normalized the idea that it's better to spend 1 minute to post 1 line, than 1 second to post 3 lines | 13:18 |
| strangewarp | I have no idea why people think short copypastes are spam | 13:18 |
| strangewarp | I have noticed this is especially prevalent in rooms with mostly teenage userbases | 13:19 |
| strangewarp | teenagers.jpg | 13:19 |
| @kanzure | frankly i just enjoy using the pastebinit script | 13:26 |
| @kanzure | cat error.log.txt | pastebinit and out pops a link | 13:26 |
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| jrayhawk | this must be an 'I don't know how to filter things and I resent being expected to do so' problem | 13:56 |
| jrayhawk | i see that a lot with people getting CC'd things, too | 13:56 |
| nmz787 | people get pissed for being CCd? | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | recently on the gerontology research group mailing list, there were a flood of people with MDs and PhDs who were spamming the list to get someone else to unsubscribe them | 13:57 |
| jrayhawk | ahaha | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | it's just a mailman server so there's always a link in each email for how to unsubscribe | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | but it was all these doctors and postdocs and shit | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | with @aol.com addresses | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | "Subject: PLEASE REMOVE ME IMMEDIATELY FROM THIS LIST" | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | except 20 times over | 13:58 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 13:58 |
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| jrayhawk | Yeah, doctors are not so much smart as they are stubborn. | 14:00 |
| brownies | kanzure: kick it up a notch dawg. cat error.log.txt | pastebinit | pbcopy | 14:05 |
| jrayhawk | maybe there's a URL minimizer you can shove in that pipeline, too | 14:08 |
| @kanzure | i will pipe it to twilio's command line client to send an sms to twitter and then get the url shortened link from t.co | 14:11 |
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| nmz787 | jrayhawk: why do monitor manufacturers say stuff like ' 300 cd/m2 DC 2,000,000:1 (1000:1) ' | 14:24 |
| nmz787 | like oh, yeah, your teachers forgot to tell you 2 million equals one thousand | 14:25 |
| jrayhawk | contrast ratios are also worthless numbers | 14:26 |
| jrayhawk | most likely one of those is dynamic contrast ratio and one of them is real. | 14:27 |
| jrayhawk | well, "real" insofar as any number with no published methodology can be | 14:27 |
| jrayhawk | One of the tricks firmware can do is dynamically adjust the backlight for very dark scenes. | 14:28 |
| brownies | 2,000,000 == 1,000 ?! | 14:28 |
| brownies | my god... this changes EVERYTHING. | 14:28 |
| TheEmpath | openSomeonesCode.jpg | 14:30 |
| TheEmpath | see comment | 14:30 |
| TheEmpath | // There be JSON up in dem der hills | 14:30 |
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| @kanzure | is there an open source eye tracking framework thing? maybe something using opencv? | 16:23 |
| @kanzure | i am also curious to know if there are eye tracking studies that study people looking at eye tracking studies. | 16:24 |
| nmz787 | heh | 16:24 |
| ThomasEgi | kanzure, shouldnt be too hard to find. it's just tracking a circle after all. | 16:25 |
| nmz787 | i think getting the info out is a bit more work tho | 16:26 |
| nmz787 | setting up all the initial shit | 16:26 |
| chris_99 | don't they normally use IR though | 16:26 |
| @kanzure | http://nashruddin.com/eyetracking-track-user-eye.html | 16:28 |
| ThomasEgi | chris_99, not sure. but removing the IR filter from a webcam takes me bout 2 minutes. and one minute is finding the right screwdriver | 16:30 |
| nmz787 | yeah but then you need a vis filter on that | 16:30 |
| chris_99 | you need an IR torchy thing to, as it picks up the IR reflection too | 16:30 |
| chris_99 | from the pupil | 16:30 |
| ThomasEgi | some IR led's and some developed analog photo film (fully exposed). | 16:33 |
| ThomasEgi | that gives you a nice black piece of film material. which filters out most visible light. but its rather transparent to IR | 16:34 |
| ThomasEgi | i did such mods in the past. pretty funny as it several kinds of fabric are almost ransparent in the IR range. | 16:34 |
| chris_99 | heh | 16:35 |
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| nmz787 | aliexpress sent me an email to come into their santa clara office | 16:43 |
| nmz787 | for some survey | 16:44 |
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| nmz787 | so these fab lab rates seem reasonable http://mbi-online.org/sites/default/files/fy13-external-rates.pdf | 16:49 |
| nmz787 | i think the rent is separate from the hourly, but i could be wrong | 16:49 |
| nmz787 | i need to find a place like this closer to portland tho | 16:49 |
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| nmz787 | $30/hr for GC, 3d profiler interferometer, plasma etcher, scopes, to name a few | 16:52 |
| nmz787 | electron scope only at $50/hr level | 16:52 |
| nmz787 | none of those folks called me back in regards to a portland lab | 16:53 |
| @kanzure | those costs add up quick | 16:53 |
| nmz787 | yeah but a 3d scan only takes maybe 30 mins | 16:54 |
| nmz787 | thats with fuckups included | 16:54 |
| nmz787 | pretty damn good value if i want to check my fluidics | 16:54 |
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| Maluseth | have you guys seen any cheap 3d scanners? | 18:12 |
| @kanzure | yes. | 18:12 |
| Maluseth | they are like 3k at least right? | 18:12 |
| @kanzure | no. | 18:12 |
| @kanzure | stereoscopic webcams don't cost that much. | 18:13 |
| Maluseth | that's another way of bypassing the dilemma | 18:13 |
| Maluseth | thanks | 18:13 |
| Maluseth | but is there an assembled one perhaps | 18:13 |
| @kanzure | an assembled webcam? | 18:13 |
| Maluseth | i mean... | 18:13 |
| Maluseth | fully portable, standalone thing | 18:13 |
| @kanzure | yes, a webcam. | 18:14 |
| Maluseth | how many webcams would i need in order to scan a person? | 18:14 |
| Maluseth | lol | 18:14 |
| ThomasEgi | stereoscopic webcams have a horrible 3d resolution :D | 18:14 |
| ThomasEgi | there are ways to get 3d scans from a single camera using a line laser. | 18:14 |
| Maluseth | thank you i will look into that | 18:14 |
| ThomasEgi | http://www.david-laserscanner.com/ | 18:15 |
| ThomasEgi | the basic version can be tried out for free. | 18:15 |
| Maluseth | wow | 18:15 |
| Maluseth | amazing. knowledge pays off always. | 18:16 |
| ThomasEgi | their structured light scanner aint bad either. | 18:16 |
| Maluseth | ok i wish i had the money to buy something like that | 18:16 |
| ThomasEgi | seen it in real life. | 18:16 |
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| Maluseth | 499 euro wuw | 18:16 |
| ThomasEgi | if you go for the laser-line scan. all you need is a reasonable webcam. | 18:16 |
| ThomasEgi | and a laser-line pointer. you can get them for 10 bucks on ebay | 18:16 |
| Maluseth | then software does the trick? wuw | 18:17 |
| ThomasEgi | i'd recommend a green laser. as most cameras use bayer patterns which has twice as many green pixels as red or blue | 18:17 |
| ThomasEgi | yeah. | 18:17 |
| ThomasEgi | as i said. their basic version is free. | 18:17 |
| ThomasEgi | but it isnt all too difficult to write a simple line-tracing software yourself. | 18:17 |
| ThomasEgi | made one as weekend project myself since that laserscanning thing doesnt run on linux. | 18:18 |
| Maluseth | no i'm just learning right now complete beginner... | 18:18 |
| Maluseth | but vmware can run windows on linux right? | 18:18 |
| nmz787 | i worked on a 3d scanner a while ago | 18:18 |
| nmz787 | lookup point clouds | 18:18 |
| ThomasEgi | yeah. but i don't want to run windows. | 18:18 |
| ThomasEgi | http://p3dp.com/doku.php?id=thomaseg1:start | 18:18 |
| nmz787 | point cloud to 3d mesh | 18:18 |
| ThomasEgi | that was my result. after a weekend of tinkering | 18:18 |
| Maluseth | nmz787 thanks. | 18:18 |
| Maluseth | you guys are geniuses | 18:19 |
| ThomasEgi | nmz787, cloudcompare? | 18:19 |
| nmz787 | yeah it had two cameras, basic web cam types, can't remember if they had color bayer filters or if they were greyscale | 18:19 |
| nmz787 | ThomasEgi: never heard of that | 18:19 |
| Maluseth | sigh how can i get there | 18:19 |
| @kanzure | stop using windows | 18:20 |
| ThomasEgi | nmz787, pretty neat open source toolkit for working with pointclouds | 18:20 |
| @kanzure | stop using dreamweaver | 18:20 |
| ThomasEgi | stop watching tv | 18:20 |
| Maluseth | i think i'll just download the basic version, buy the stereoscopic webcam, and laser line pointers | 18:20 |
| Maluseth | :) | 18:20 |
| nmz787 | but snapping pics was linked to stepping a stepper motor which had a platform attached | 18:20 |
| ThomasEgi | you don't need a stereoscopi webcam | 18:20 |
| Maluseth | yes yes. i'm doing that now | 18:20 |
| ThomasEgi | a simple webcam will do. | 18:20 |
| Maluseth | wasted enough time watching cartoons and playing games | 18:20 |
| nmz787 | and each step was accompanied by several of the structured line black white alternating lines | 18:20 |
| ThomasEgi | Maluseth, in case you have a projector.. you could go with structured light scans. | 18:21 |
| ThomasEgi | they are amazing. | 18:21 |
| Maluseth | so many ways. i dont have one, but i guess now i'm thinking it kind of works like chroma keying - green screen stuff | 18:21 |
| ThomasEgi | biggest problem i ran into at one point was. the distortion from my camera. you could actually see how the flat background got distroted in depth. didn't bother to fix that | 18:22 |
| Maluseth | nvm i'll just use it and understand it | 18:22 |
| Maluseth | if i can | 18:22 |
| Maluseth | amazing info hopefully i can make something out of it | 18:22 |
| Maluseth | hey 3d printer at 500 bucks | 18:22 |
| Maluseth | solidoodle or something | 18:22 |
| nmz787 | you can develop a flatness profile with a checkerboard pattern and some software | 18:22 |
| @kanzure | you can build a reprap for less than $500 | 18:23 |
| @kanzure | for someone with no money you sure do like to spend it | 18:23 |
| Maluseth | i like to imagine, i can't spend anything | 18:23 |
| nmz787 | basically you print a checkerboard pattern, or buy one mounted to hard wood/metal, then photograph it in various positions... i've literally had to dance around holding a 6 ft sq checkerboard befoire | 18:23 |
| ThomasEgi | nmz787, if you know your background is flat. you don't even need the checkerboard pattern. | 18:24 |
| ThomasEgi | simple hough transform of the triangulated data should get you the plane equation of the flat background | 18:24 |
| nmz787 | then you run some (matlab was the one they had) code to figure it all out, and it spits out a nice matrix of numbers that define your optical distortion | 18:24 |
| ThomasEgi | and from there. you can calculate stuff backwards. creating a transform matrix | 18:24 |
| nmz787 | yeah that's the fancy word for it | 18:24 |
| nmz787 | i was usin a pico projector | 18:26 |
| nmz787 | the one from digikey i think, the flagship one that TI endorses | 18:26 |
| nmz787 | was decent res | 18:26 |
| nmz787 | they were hoping to package it all into a product | 18:27 |
| nmz787 | (they were an OEM for TI) | 18:27 |
| ParahSailin | Maluseth, did you take advantage of my free advice? | 18:27 |
| Maluseth | No parah... i didn't. I have a Grandma who needs taking care of. | 18:29 |
| Maluseth | If I was alone I may be able to. | 18:29 |
| ParahSailin | ill have to be less generous to random strangers in the future | 18:30 |
| Maluseth | but thank you... | 18:30 |
| nmz787 | here's what it looked like http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20090202/real-view-3d-scanner/ | 18:30 |
| Maluseth | how about a mini-desktop-milling & casting, foundry (all mini) for your home? does it exist? | 18:32 |
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| @kanzure | yes. | 18:32 |
| Maluseth | OMG! | 18:32 |
| ThomasEgi | hehe. exists.. | 18:32 |
| ThomasEgi | but costs | 18:32 |
| Maluseth | how much would it cost? | 18:33 |
| ThomasEgi | more than you want to pay | 18:33 |
| @kanzure | ParahSailin: yeah i don't know what the point is here | 18:33 |
| Maluseth | oh | 18:33 |
| ThomasEgi | milling is probably the most expensive part | 18:33 |
| ThomasEgi | as it requires extensive mechanics and controll circuitry | 18:33 |
| nmz787 | i never saw a mini foundry | 18:33 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: i'm pretty sure gingery had one | 18:33 |
| ThomasEgi | casting is rather cheap. | 18:33 |
| nmz787 | seems wasteful | 18:34 |
| nmz787 | i mean, seems more efficient to do bigger batches | 18:34 |
| Maluseth | there's limits on what you can make with filaments for the 3d printers right? i mean their density can't sustain itself? | 18:35 |
| Maluseth | if in motion or something | 18:35 |
| @kanzure | you seem to be all over the place | 18:35 |
| @kanzure | why are you jumping from a foundry to 3d printing? | 18:35 |
| Maluseth | i am trying to piece these puzzles together | 18:35 |
| @kanzure | what puzzles | 18:35 |
| Maluseth | i figure, after going plastic, you gotta go metal, and be able to learn programming languages to connect somesort of circuitry | 18:36 |
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| Maluseth | to make a motion- manipulative machinary of some sort | 18:36 |
| ThomasEgi | there are also 3d-metal printers | 18:36 |
| Maluseth | what?! really? | 18:36 |
| ThomasEgi | sure | 18:36 |
| Maluseth | what are they called? | 18:36 |
| ThomasEgi | direct metal laser sintering or so | 18:37 |
| Maluseth | must cost a fortune | 18:37 |
| ThomasEgi | nothing for a DIY budget guy anyway | 18:37 |
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| Maluseth | hopefully my grandma will support me later if she can approve of my creativity | 18:38 |
| Maluseth | heh | 18:38 |
| ThomasEgi | prepare for 6-digit pricetags | 18:38 |
| Maluseth | but hard to convince a person who dont know how to use a computer sigh | 18:38 |
| Maluseth | ow | 18:38 |
| @kanzure | give her an ipad. old people love ipads. | 18:38 |
| Maluseth | it's good to know though | 18:39 |
| Maluseth | kanzure: good idea | 18:39 |
| ParahSailin | kanzure, i recommend making here harder to find | 18:39 |
| @kanzure | ParahSailin: i think you might be right | 18:39 |
| ThomasEgi | most of the time. traditional manufactoring of mechanical parts isn't that much of a bad idea. | 18:40 |
| ThomasEgi | unless they can be made from plastic | 18:40 |
| ThomasEgi | or have very complex shape | 18:40 |
| Maluseth | for very complex shapes, plastic is a better choice because it's more flexible? | 18:40 |
| Maluseth | ok | 18:40 |
| ParahSailin | i want to print my own nails to hammer studs together though | 18:41 |
| ThomasEgi | ParahSailin, throw in enough money. and you can get everything printed. | 18:41 |
| Maluseth | ok i am going to research on everything bbl | 18:41 |
| ParahSailin | being facetious | 18:41 |
| @kanzure | ParahSailin: why can't i get the high quality newbies? | 18:42 |
| @kanzure | it's not fair | 18:42 |
| ParahSailin | your channel is not guessable | 18:42 |
| ThomasEgi | humans are strange. invited someone to share my lasagna with... the lady decided not to drop by and go to a party instead. might have hooked up there who knows. can't understand how someone could miss lasagna.. | 18:42 |
| ParahSailin | so its not a schelling point | 18:42 |
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| @kanzure | i don't recognize any of the names on the 'ultrasound-guided focused ultrasound' manufacturer list: | 20:14 |
| @kanzure | http://www.fusfoundation.org/MRgFUS-Overview/device-manufacturers | 20:14 |
| @kanzure | http://www.edap-hifu.com/ http://www.haifu-hifu.co.uk/ http://www.histosonics.com/ http://www.mirabilismedica.com/ http://www.aishen.com.cn/en/index.asp http://www.sumo.com.hk/ http://www.theraclion.com/ http://www.ushifu.com/ | 20:15 |
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| AdrianG | including philips and siemens? | 20:26 |
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