2012-11-02.log

--- Log opened Fri Nov 02 00:00:13 2012
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strangewarpBuilding something concertely useful out of K'nex I still have from when I was a kid - feels very austerity chic06:23
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ThomasEgifound a way to cut sausagase in a way they don't roll of my bread and look like chromosome at the same time.08:17
ThomasEgii'd call this day a success.08:17
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browniesThomasEgi: now *that* is innovation09:18
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nmz787sausagesomes09:30
@kanzuredeep sea sausage sampling expedition: craig venter 409:30
browniessausagenome09:31
nmz787i think there's a southpark episode where they make fun of steve erwin09:35
nmz787they could probably easy remake that with venter instead09:35
@kanzuremaking fun of the dead is too easy09:35
nmz787there's also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmnVWhX1d-Y09:41
nmz787Bum hunter - Steve Irwin wannabe09:41
nmz787'Gene Hunter'09:41
nmz787this looks even better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjuuoax2KQY&feature=related09:44
nmz787Bumfights creator kicked off Dr.Phil09:44
@kanzurehey why isn't there a gene hunter tv show anyway?09:51
@kanzure"crickey, today we're screening this pile of horse poop for new forms of bacteria! isn't it exciting."09:52
@kanzureperhaps this is why i shouldn't go into television.09:53
browniesnot exactly Bill Nye material09:53
browniesunless you can find a way to do gel electrophoresis with a giant tesla coil09:53
@kanzurei am sure something can be arranged09:53
nmz787i'd watch it09:57
nmz787hell, i'd even buy a bryan bishop plush doll novelty item09:58
@kanzure"I AM NOW ABOUT TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT IT IS LIKE TO GO THROUGH GEL ELECTROPHORESIS"09:58
@kanzure500 foot gel09:58
nmz787how many pixels is the best size for 1920x1080?10:00
nmz787s/pixels/inches/10:00
ThomasEgifor what? television? depens on the distance to the screen10:09
jrayhawkFive inches. That is a good number of inches.10:14
jrayhawkhttp://www.engadget.com/2012/10/17/htc-j-butterfly-htl21-440ppi/10:14
jrayhawkI love you, DPI wars10:14
@kanzurei'm still trying to figure out a new laptop10:18
jrayhawkvoted w701ds10:18
@kanzureapparently my mom worked on DRAM back in the day.10:20
jrayhawkdid she make pretty but uncomfortable furniture out of it10:20
@kanzurenah i think she did technical documentation stuff10:21
@kanzurewhy does newegg's RAM search only go up to 8 GB on laptops?10:24
jrayhawkI don't think newegg carries the really high-end business laptops.10:25
nmz787jrayhawk: can you pick up jules? my alternator is stuck, i got replacement bearings to try and fix it, as well as a reman alternator if that doesnt work10:25
nmz787but i am reading about monitors in my nice clean chair, rather than getting greasy10:25
jrayhawkHmm. Probably. Do we have an appointment we need to keep?10:26
nmz787no, when is good for you?10:26
jrayhawkMaybe a couple hours. I need to eat and deal with email.10:27
nmz787i need to call the guy and make sure he'll be there10:27
nmz787jrayhawk: do you know any decent priced IPS screens with a pivot stand (portrait to landscape)10:27
jrayhawkI usually just buy my own stands and rely on VESA mounts.10:28
jrayhawkErgotron has lots of cool reasonably cheap shit.10:28
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nmz787ahh, so that Asus 21" you linked me, 'For added convenience, these monitors are VESA compatible, so you can neatly place it on a wall'10:34
nmz787so I can just get a better stand?10:34
jrayhawkkanzure: The generation 6 elitebooks look like they can do 32GB and are cheapish on the HP outlet http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/hpremarketing/daily.asp?jumpid=re_R295_store/buspurchase-refurbished/computing/price-list10:35
@kanzurejrayhawk: i'm just skeptical of this whole process10:36
nmz787why?10:36
@kanzurebecause it's a crapshoot. the most likely result is ending up with old/crap hardware.10:37
@kanzurehttp://www.misco.co.uk/product/Q559823/Samsung-700G7C-S01UK-Intel-Core-i7-3610QM-17-3inch-16GB-1-5TB-Windows-7-Home-Prem-Laptop-Notebook-PC10:38
@kanzurethat seems to be an i7-3610QM with 16 GB RAM, but it's a bit on the cheap side for some reason10:38
jrayhawkThe W520 was the last Lenovo with the kickass keyboard, and that was only sixteen gigs10:39
jrayhawkYou'd have to move to a w530 to get 32.10:39
@kanzureah, well, 16 is probably okay, but i'd rather not end up with 2 or something stupid like that10:40
jrayhawkIf you're worried about upgradability, desktops are a lot better for that10:42
jrayhawkthat samsung you linked does not have a trackpoint10:44
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@kanzurei wish there was some device that would punch me in the face every time i switch quoting styles "mid" 'sentence'15:25
nmz7871come on over!15:26
ThomasEgikanzure, don't tell apple.. or they will build an iSmack15:27
jrayhawkkanzure: i do that when i am mixing english and programming modalities15:29
jrayhawki don't feel all that guilty about it15:29
@kanzureswitching quoting styles mid-sentence is almost as bad as forgetting a closing bracket or parenthesis15:31
jrayhawkclearly you need syntax highlighting for your english15:31
@kanzureis sqoop even a thing?15:33
@kanzureit looks like it might be an apache thing15:33
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Urchinemacs can catch missmatches16:13
Urchinthough there might be real reasons for switching quote styles16:13
Urchinlike with nested quotes16:13
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nmz787jrayhawk: so i'm about to buy the asus monitor17:04
nmz787jrayhawk: but i was wondering if it would be the right size for portrait mode next to one of those korean 27"17:04
jrayhawkha, probably not17:04
jrayhawkwait, no, i am apparently wrong17:12
jrayhawksqrt(1440^2+2560^2)/sqrt(1920^2+1080^2)*144017:12
jrayhawk1919.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999917:12
jrayhawkerr, no i guess that doesn't deal with the panel size, durr17:13
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@kanzurehttp://wyolum.com/wyolum-innovation-grant-2012/ is giving out some small ($3k/each) grants for open hardware19:37
skorketanybody want to apply for a grant with me?20:18
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skorketwha?20:21
@kanzurenot really, what do you want $3k for?20:22
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skorketI thought it was two $1k and 4 $250.  And mostly motivation20:25
skorketHelps with the cost of the prototype20:25
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skorketwhat's going on with nmz787?20:27
yashgarothmultiple personality disorder20:27
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ParahSailinwhats wyolum21:06
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@kanzurei assume something boring and uninteresting21:07
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JayDuggerGood evening, everyone.21:35
@kanzuressh nanoengi@nanoengineer-1.net -p18765 "tar zcvf - ." > backup.tar22:01
@kanzurewill this do what i hope it does22:01
@kanzureor did i get my dashes and periods swapped up22:01
JayDuggersecure shell as nanengi to nanoengineer-1.net on port 18765 and run the command "tar zcvf - ." and write its output to a local file backup.tar.22:09
JayDuggertar zcvf - .22:13
JayDugger with verbose output create a compressed from input file "." to stdout "-"22:13
JayDuggerI think...22:13
JayDuggerI don't know if stdout on the remote machine will write back to a local file.22:14
JayDuggerDid it work?22:14
JayDuggerhttp://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9900/create-a-local-compressed-tarball-from-remote-host-directory22:15
JayDuggerCommandlinefu.com suggests it will.22:16
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jrayhawk-p18765 is probably not a command, so that should go before the hostname22:28
jrayhawkalso you can leave off the quotes22:29
jrayhawkalso absent an -f, - is assumed22:29
jrayhawkalso if you want the full filesystem, you should go for /22:29
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@kanzurejrayhawk: i got a few "tar: ./.nanoengi: Cannot open: Permission denied" errors22:43
@kanzureis the .tar.gz file probably okay?22:43
@kanzurejrayhawk: it's a shared hosting environment, so / is not reasonable22:44
jrayhawkYeah, the tar file will be complete other than whatever it didn't have access to.22:45
jrayhawkoh and i guess 'backup.tar' is the wrong name22:46
jrayhawkthat should be backup.tar.gz22:46
@kanzureyes, but each time i use zcvf you guys always complain that my tar files aren't gzipped and i should drop the .gz extension >:|22:48
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@kanzurehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb9tUFc9GPE23:13
ParahSailingot a romney ad on that one23:15
@kanzurewasn't my intention23:16
@kanzurenot quite what i was aiming for23:16
yashgarothyoutube has ads?23:17
@kanzurehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683421602123:17
@kanzurei guess that's not ideal for programming work23:17
@kanzureand only 6 GB23:18
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jrayhawkif i am complaining that your tar file isn't gzipped it's because you haven't used z23:37
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jrayhawkevery once in a while i try to use the web on somebody else's computer and i find out just how godawful everything is when you try to use firefox or chrome, such as youtube23:39
jrayhawkyoutube is the most amazingly awful video player i can imagine23:39
ParahSailinrealplayer23:40
jrayhawkrealplayer understood connection retries23:41
jrayhawkthe compression was awful, but it *worked*.23:41
jrayhawkhalf the time i seek in a youtube video it will throw away data, inexplicably halt until the rest of the video loads, or just halt regardless23:42
jrayhawkthe web is such a worthless shithole, i do not understand how people tolerate it23:43
jrayhawki mean the standards the web is based on, not so much the content of the web itself23:43
@kanzureflash is not a standard, it's more like a bad decision23:48
jrayhawkyoutube/chrome is just as bad without flash23:49
jrayhawki guess i haven't tried flashless youtube/firefox23:49
jrayhawkthis is a good song, though23:50
jrayhawkin mplayer :)23:50
jrayhawkheavy and careful focus on sample filtering/texturing, like Boards of Canada23:51
@kanzureyeah it turns out that 2 out of 3 of my speaker systems are awful and really can't play this23:51
jrayhawki recommend 2000 watt JBLs23:52
jrayhawki find speakers of less spatial volume than me to be adorable, now23:52
jrayhawk"people play music on these things?"23:53
@kanzurewow system76 makes it hilariously easy to spec out a $4000 desktop23:57
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