| --- Log opened Wed Dec 05 00:00:35 2012 | ||
| --- Day changed Wed Dec 05 2012 | ||
| @kanzure | i wish google would return to displaying 100 results per page | 00:00 |
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| @kanzure | they have switched the first page of search results to list out "similar queries" which are never anything like what i want | 00:00 |
| @kanzure | and then on the second page you can get your 100 results | 00:00 |
| @kanzure | http://heybryan.org/shots/2012-12-05-0206-google-not-100.png | 00:10 |
| joshcryer | http://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en | 00:15 |
| joshcryer | turned off google instant and my results per page are massive, but it does still spam their previous results crap... | 00:16 |
| @kanzure | nope, i've never had instant enabled | 00:19 |
| joshcryer | weird, I got shitloads of results now, easily 100 | 00:20 |
| joshcryer | wtf, when I search for "linux powerpoint ppt extract links" I get the same thing as your screenshot | 00:22 |
| @kanzure | :( | 00:22 |
| @kanzure | catppt sounds nice though | 00:22 |
| @kanzure | the real way to do it is the python/openoffice/libreoffice bindings that would ostensibly take more than 10 seconds of effort | 00:22 |
| joshcryer | "ppt extract links" goes back to 100 result behavior, bizarre | 00:23 |
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| brownies | kanzure: i get 100 results without the "similar" crap | 01:00 |
| brownies | kanzure: long story short, you are clearly a google noob | 01:00 |
| ThomasEgi | brownies, you know that google gives you customized search results. it's not the same for everyone but based on your personal interest and previous searches | 01:01 |
| brownies | ThomasEgi: i have that disabled as well | 01:01 |
| brownies | i know they still customize it regardless when i'm logged in, but that may be a factor in eliminating the whole chunk of "similar search results" or whatever that kanzure is getting | 01:02 |
| brownies | kanzure: oh you know what it is? i have my omnibar set to force Google Verbatim Search | 01:05 |
| brownies | so i get 0 bullshit from Google trying to "help" me | 01:05 |
| Coornail | imho they actually helping me | 01:21 |
| Coornail | so I'm glad for this feature | 01:21 |
| joshcryer | brownies, do you grt 100 results for "linux powerpoint ppt extract links"? | 01:23 |
| brownies | joshcryer: yup | 01:24 |
| joshcryer | brownies, weird! I don't... | 01:25 |
| brownies | joshcryer: using google verbatim is the key | 01:26 |
| joshcryer | brownies, eh, I need google to help me, I'm sort of attuned to it and it is to me, so 99% of the time the first 5 hits are what I 100% want. | 01:27 |
| brownies | ah, that is true for me too... with verbatim =P | 01:27 |
| joshcryer | brownies, just trying to figure out why longer search queries default to shorter results, it's weird, but not terribly necessary. | 01:28 |
| brownies | yeah, sometimes they will broaden your search for you if the original does not have very many results | 01:28 |
| brownies | there are only about 700 results total for that phrase in verbatim btw | 01:28 |
| brownies | well, 7 pages, so < 700 | 01:28 |
| joshcryer | I use verbatim for the 1% of queries that don't work out. I simply won't read past the first 10 results. | 01:29 |
| joshcryer | (which is why I turned off 100 results already, was just checking it out for kanzure) | 01:29 |
| brownies | yeah, i have mine set to 10 results... but i bumped it to 100 just to prove kanzure wrong | 01:29 |
| brownies | heh yup =P | 01:30 |
| joshcryer | jinx ;D | 01:30 |
| abetusk | fenn, nmz787, up? | 01:44 |
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| pasky_ | hmm, i like most of the transformations google usually makes on my words, the only thing i extremely dislike is google _dropping_ one of my keywords when there aren't many results; i'd rather have no results then | 02:40 |
| pasky_ | any way to prevent just that? | 02:41 |
| archels | the + operator was (stupidly) removed a while back | 02:41 |
| pasky_ | well of course i can workaround it by quoting the dropped keyword | 02:42 |
| pasky_ | but i'd rather not to go back, edit and resubmit the query | 02:43 |
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| @kanzure | quoting doesn't do that either anyomre | 08:26 |
| fenn | nestled among the usb cables and android set top boxes, we find this curiosity http://dx.com/p/stainless-steel-emulational-gun-tight-inner-barrel-for-ak47-silver-455mm-length-171762 | 09:00 |
| fenn | i wonder if it's for airsoft? | 09:01 |
| @kanzure | i hate zero state | 09:02 |
| @kanzure | i wish they would stop sending me email | 09:02 |
| fenn | ah okay nevermind.. for a moment i thought dealextreme was selling gun parts | 09:02 |
| fenn | i mean these certainly look like they would work just fine on a real gun http://dx.com/c/hobbies-toys-899/airsoft-guns-supplies-837/gun-mounts-rails-876 | 09:06 |
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| @kanzure | oh great now zero state guy is claiming that i hate artists | 09:25 |
| @kanzure | i wonder how he got to that conclusion | 09:25 |
| fenn | well, don't you? | 09:27 |
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| @kanzure | fenn: my message had nothing to do with artist hatred though | 09:40 |
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| @kanzure | fenn: ok i sent | 09:40 |
| @kanzure | to your inbox i mean | 09:41 |
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| @kanzure | go away EnLilaSko- | 10:05 |
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| @kanzure | fenn: /join #openworm-office | 10:14 |
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| @kanzure | blah you guys are all terrible at maintaining connections | 10:32 |
| @kanzure | http://browser.openworm.org/ | 10:34 |
| fenn | i don't have webgl for unexplainable reasons | 10:38 |
| fenn | the screenshots look nice | 10:39 |
| @kanzure | well that's lame. they sign off? | 10:58 |
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| jrayhawk | giving sites access direct access to your DMA-driven video hardware was decided to be less than wise | 13:09 |
| @kanzure | eh? | 13:11 |
| @kanzure | oh, webgl. | 13:11 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk, don't destroy this exploit opportunity for me | 13:11 |
| @kanzure | actually i haven't seen any malware based on webgl yet | 13:12 |
| jrayhawk | eh, you still have flash and java | 13:15 |
| jrayhawk | and Acrobat | 13:15 |
| @kanzure | and javascript | 13:16 |
| ThomasEgi | and internet explorer with activex | 13:34 |
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| @kanzure | hi cathalgarvey | 13:39 |
| @kanzure | how goes things? | 13:40 |
| -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-b EnLilaSko!*@*] by kanzure | 13:40 | |
| cathalgarvey | Hello! | 13:40 |
| cathalgarvey | Things are chilly | 13:41 |
| cathalgarvey | But a potential nice result in lab warms my heart; will know more tomorrow. | 13:41 |
| cathalgarvey | How's everyone here? | 13:41 |
| @kanzure | it's a bit of a slow day it seems | 13:42 |
| cathalgarvey | Such is life | 13:43 |
| @kanzure | saurik: have you played with http://www.contextis.com/research/tools/canape/ or http://intrepidusgroup.com/insight/mallory/ ever? | 13:43 |
| @kanzure | saurik: lately i like mitmproxy.org but i'm open to alternatives | 13:43 |
| cathalgarvey | Who's to be MITM'd? | 13:45 |
| @kanzure | i poke around at things | 13:45 |
| @kanzure | phones, websites, whatever | 13:45 |
| cathalgarvey | Just amused as I was reading about the TLS handshake process right before joining the channel | 13:46 |
| cathalgarvey | http://www.moserware.com/2009/06/first-few-milliseconds-of-https.html | 13:47 |
| @kanzure | mitmproxy does ssl interception which is fun to play with if you've never done that | 13:48 |
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| cathalgarvey | Oo, this is a nice feature for general wgetting use: http://mitmproxy.org/doc/sticky.html | 13:55 |
| cathalgarvey | Might prove handy in avoiding learning about wget's extensive session features: just use mitmproxy to mimic a cookie-based session? | 13:55 |
| @kanzure | honestly it's easier for me to remember how to use http://python-requests.org/ than arguments for both wget and curl | 13:57 |
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| @kanzure | oh i see. yes -t is pretty neat. | 14:00 |
| cathalgarvey | Cautiously excited by python requests, but trying to determine (as usual) whether it's Py3k compatible.. | 14:03 |
| cathalgarvey | Score, it does | 14:04 |
| cathalgarvey | setup.py suggests up to 3.3, which is nice and current | 14:04 |
| cathalgarvey | :) | 14:04 |
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| saurik | kanzure: no. I use sniffit, apache with forged certificates, or if I'm really desparate some custom mitm stuff. in the last few years, however, I consider it a failure if I'm having to MITM the thing, as modifying the application to just dump its traffic to disk is so much easier | 14:56 |
| fenn | mitmproxy looks suspiciously similar to irssi | 14:56 |
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| @kanzure | saurik: neat, thanks. sniffit looks like a node.js thing? https://github.com/creationix/sniffit | 14:59 |
| brownies | some guy is actively trying to XSS exploit my site right now | 14:59 |
| brownies | -_- | 14:59 |
| @kanzure | that guy might be me, lemme check | 14:59 |
| @kanzure | nope | 14:59 |
| brownies | he's failing, of course, but i'm still getting the server error emails | 14:59 |
| brownies | kanzure: nah, i found him on LinkedIn | 15:00 |
| @kanzure | oh you approved of him doing this? | 15:00 |
| brownies | no | 15:00 |
| @kanzure | i would've been happy to deface your site, bro | 15:00 |
| brownies | other way around | 15:00 |
| @kanzure | ah. | 15:00 |
| brownies | he started breaking my site, so i logged in to our admin panel to see if i could deduce who it was | 15:00 |
| brownies | and now i'm looking at his LinkedIn -_- | 15:00 |
| fenn | if he's successful does that mean you're supposed to hire him? | 15:01 |
| brownies | haha. no. | 15:01 |
| saurik | kanzure: no. sniffit is a unix tool that you can probably get by using apt-get install sniffit. | 15:05 |
| @kanzure | oh woops | 15:06 |
| @kanzure | yep there it is | 15:06 |
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| jrayhawk | http://www.reddit.com/r/xss every once in a while i like reading through here and reminding myself to never ever get involved in web programming again | 15:31 |
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| cathalgarvey | TTYL al | 15:56 |
| cathalgarvey | *all | 15:56 |
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| abetusk | evening | 16:34 |
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| brownies | jrayhawk: hey, around? | 17:49 |
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| jrayhawk | probably | 17:50 |
| brownies | jrayhawk: do you have an opinion on those giant buckets o' liquid egg whites products? | 17:54 |
| jrayhawk | They'd need to be well-cooked to get rid of the avidin | 18:00 |
| jrayhawk | And most of the really cool stuff in eggs is in the yolks. | 18:00 |
| jrayhawk | So, not particularly optimal, not particularly dangerous, if treated properly. | 18:01 |
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| brownies | jrayhawk: yeah, i am a fan of the yolks, so missing out on those is a downer | 18:16 |
| brownies | jrayhawk: but i am also just tired of buying tons of eggs, and cracking them, and cooking them... blah | 18:16 |
| brownies | jrayhawk: and, yeah, at least 1 of the 2 products i'm looking at explicitly says they cook them to the point of neutralizing the avidin | 18:17 |
| jrayhawk | oh, so this is solid egg white product, then? | 18:25 |
| jrayhawk | man, a bucket of solid eggwhite sounds like a hilariously disturbing product. | 18:25 |
| jrayhawk | Now I want one. | 18:26 |
| jrayhawk | I can put it next to my five gallon bucket of saturated fat. | 18:26 |
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| yashgaroth | hey does anyone need any butyl resin | 18:43 |
| yashgaroth | ok how about want | 18:50 |
| brownies | jrayhawk: no, it's liqui | 18:59 |
| brownies | jrayhawk: they ship it to you with a pump, like a giant bottle of liquid soap | 19:00 |
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| @kanzure | heath: welcome back | 21:33 |
| heath | kanzure: i know right :) | 21:33 |
| @kanzure | "I need to remove my bottom 30 iq points. Why hasn't anyone thought of this remarkable method of intelligence augmentation before?" | 21:33 |
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| @kanzure | http://www.surveyhistory.org/why_the_midwest_is_square1.htm | 21:44 |
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| heath | http://io9.com/5965524/its-official-aspergers-syndrome-is-no-longer-a-thing | 22:24 |
| heath | reddit .deb app :: http://reditr.com/#!/Download | 22:28 |
| @kanzure | heath: no reddit in here please, thanks. | 22:28 |
| * heath meant to send that to his coworkers | 22:29 | |
| @kanzure | your coworkers must suck | 22:29 |
| heath | meh | 22:29 |
| heath | reddit's not so bad :: https://github.com/reddit/reddit/wiki/API | 22:30 |
| heath | find some some subreddits you like and fetch the json | 22:31 |
| @kanzure | all of the subreddits are terrible | 22:31 |
| heath | then stop being negative :) | 22:31 |
| @kanzure | nobody has ever shown me evidence that they aren't terrible | 22:31 |
| heath | you're ruining the emperor's groove! | 22:31 |
| joshcryer | reddit is purely for a time sink | 22:32 |
| joshcryer | I'm totally quitting it in 2 weeks | 22:32 |
| @kanzure | all of the redditors: get the fuck out | 22:32 |
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| @kanzure | /kick delinquentme | 22:32 |
| @kanzure | oh good he's already gone | 22:32 |
| joshcryer | dude I was just making an observation | 22:32 |
| joshcryer | my next line was highly critical | 22:32 |
| joshcryer | now you won't get to see it | 22:33 |
| -!- heath [quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap | 22:37 | |
| heath | blurg | 22:38 |
| joshcryer | heath = ybit?!? | 22:38 |
| heath | yerp | 22:38 |
| * heath doesn't read reddit? | 22:38 | |
| heath | can i kick people who kick people on suspicion? | 22:38 |
| joshcryer | Fuck reddit. | 22:38 |
| @kanzure | joshcryer: too late, mister "1 point 18 minutes ago" http://www.reddit.com/user/joshcryer | 22:39 |
| @kanzure | and mister "1 point 5 days ago" http://www.reddit.com/user/ybit | 22:39 |
| @kanzure | don't lie to me. | 22:39 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, I said I'm quitting in two weeks. | 22:39 |
| joshcryer | It's just killing time. | 22:39 |
| joshcryer | I have learned almost nothing useful posting there. | 22:41 |
| joshcryer | Most posters are highly sensititive autistic-spectrums, I swear. | 22:41 |
| heath | bah | 22:41 |
| heath | it's not useless | 22:41 |
| joshcryer | The transhuman / H+ subs are mostly empty. | 22:42 |
| joshcryer | kanzure will probably kick me again but LessWrong is more useful. | 22:42 |
| @kanzure | stop reading reddit, damn | 22:43 |
| @kanzure | and why would you think "reddit + transhumanism" would be a good idea? that's a terrible idea. | 22:43 |
| joshcryer | I'm stopping damn. :P | 22:43 |
| @kanzure | superkuh: yo this 403s http://erewhon.superkuh.com/library/Neuroscience/Ultrasound%20Stimulation/ultrasound-piezo/ | 22:45 |
| jrayhawk | i actually linked to reddit itself tonight and i totally didn't get kicked | 22:59 |
| jrayhawk | you're going soft, bishop | 23:00 |
| jrayhawk | i don't think you've got what it takes | 23:00 |
| -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o fenn] by kanzure | 23:01 | |
| -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o kanzure] by kanzure | 23:01 | |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: as long as this 404s i am happy http://www.reddit.com/user/jrayhawk | 23:02 |
| -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 23:22 | |
| -!- Juul [~Juul@50-0-146-204.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] | 23:42 | |
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