2012-12-29.log

--- Log opened Sat Dec 29 00:00:09 2012
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saurikCTO of twitpic responded to me: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=497947200:03
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@fennwow i didn't know lance armstrong and team were stripped of their tour de france medals02:17
@fenn"led the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen"02:18
@fennholy crap "At his peak, he had a resting heart rate of 32–34 beats per minute (bpm) with a maximum heart rate of 201 bpm."02:24
strangewarpI heard that the highest-placing cyclist confirmed not to be doping came in 24th, so stripping Armstrong of his medals was a pretty gutsy move - they've got to give them to that guy now, or else be hypocrites02:33
EnLilaSkoEveryone on that level use doping02:39
EnLilaSko(pretty much)02:39
@fenn"growth hormone, cortisone, EPO, steroids and testosterone" we've come a long way from eating bees02:43
chidoeating bees? was that ever a thing?02:47
@fennin ancient greece during the olympics02:47
@fennso is livestrong.com run by armstrong?02:48
strangewarpMy big sister's ex-husband used to eat bee-and-mayo sandwiches. I have no idea why02:48
@fennor is that just livestrong.org02:48
@fenni guess "run by" is giving him too much credit02:59
erasmusif everyone is cheating then what do you do?03:08
erasmusit's like all the cars on the highway around you are speeding, but then the cop decides to pull you over.03:08
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@fenn"A baptized Witness who unrepentantly accepts a blood transfusion is deemed to have disassociated himself from the religion by abandoning its doctrines and is subsequently subject to organized shunning by other members."03:23
@fennnow, they're not talking about something minor like winning a bike race, this is for a medical procedure that will keep you from dying in a severe accident03:24
@fennThe court said: "The freedom to accept or refuse specific medical treatment, or to select an alternative form of treatment, is vital to the principles of self-determination and personal autonomy. A competent adult patient is free to decide ... regardless of how irrational, unwise or imprudent such choices may appear to others."03:33
@fennunfortunately it seems this sort of "open-mindedness" on behalf of the cours only extends to nutty christian biblical interpretations03:33
@fenncourts*03:33
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@fenndoes anyone know how to turn off googles "similar searches" feature (crossing out keywords)04:21
@fennall the SEO forum bullshit makes it hard to figure out if this is even possible04:25
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@fennit seems like verbatim will fix this but i can't figure out how to turn it on04:36
@fenn(aside from adding &tbs=li:1 to the url, which doesn't seem like the "right" way to do it)04:38
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@kanzurefenn: no i haven't been able to turn off that feature either :(09:55
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@kanzureweird that the average age of a stackoverflow contributor (that has a social profile linked on their account page) is always >26 years11:12
@kanzurehttp://www.brianbondy.com/stackexchange/expected-age/stackoverflow/11:12
@kanzurei'm sure there are users <26 years but they are never the majority for a given subject11:12
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jrayhawkYoung people might be more likely to be non-contributory11:25
@kanzurewouldn't young people have more questions? possibly?11:25
barriers?11:26
jrayhawkor possibly young people are more likely to conceal their age11:26
barrierswaiting for teleomerase therapy11:26
@kanzurebarriers: telomerase isn't going to do that much good11:27
@kanzurebarriers: read more http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity/11:27
barriersstem cell regeneration?11:27
barriersthere were those contacts for retina repair posted a week or so back11:28
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barriershey guy11:28
barrierskanzure: could you recommend a paper?11:30
barriersor elaborate11:30
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@kanzurebarriers: actually, no.11:32
@kanzureheh android+ocr is 50 years average http://www.brianbondy.com/stackexchange/expected-age/android/11:32
barrierskanzure: do you have a favoured development for life extension?11:34
@kanzureno, but i guess sens is a reasonable place to start if you only know about telomeres.11:35
barrierser there's also synthetic organ replacements11:36
barriersxna11:36
barriersbrain uploading11:36
barriersidk11:36
@kanzurewhat are you delineating a list of?11:36
barrierslife extension technologies11:37
@kanzureyour list is incomplete.11:37
barriersof course11:37
barrierswhat would you addend?11:37
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@fennthe "expected age" data should have standard deviation, otherwise it's somewhat meaningless14:00
@kanzurei saw another page on that site where n=100 so i'm not sure the data is useful to begin with14:03
nmz787kanzureis there a GUI text editor that does version control everytime i save (normally with ctrl-s)14:09
nmz787kanzure ^14:09
@kanzureall of the good editors can be configured to interact with git14:10
@kanzureif you are using vim these days you might be interested in the undo history tree that it automagically keeps14:10
nmz787all i see for geany is this http://plugins.geany.org/geanyvc.html14:10
@kanzureis that what you want?14:11
@kanzurei highly recommend investing 30min of your time to learn vim. it's not a gui editor but you will find that you don't need that.14:12
nmz787no14:13
nmz787i just want to be able to hit ctrl-s like i do now, and another version is saved14:14
nmz787i don't want to 'commit' anything14:14
nmz787i just want it to do that obscured from me14:14
@kanzurecan you explain why? i'm trying to understand.14:14
nmz787i dont remember all the commit related commands14:14
nmz787and i havent been able to for 5 years14:15
@kanzuregit add foo; git commit foo. that's all.14:15
@kanzureum sorry. i mean git add foo; git commit.14:15
@kanzureso, is this because you want to be able to undo things quickly with ctrl-z, or is it because you're paranoid that you wont remember how to use git, or what's going on?14:17
nmz787i'm not paranoid, i just don't remember them14:20
nmz787windows server auto-versions all files14:20
nmz787so if you screw up you just right-click on that file and go through the 'previous versions' tab14:21
@kanzurei'm not convinced that's a sane thing to do14:21
@kanzurebut if you want to do it on linux:14:21
@kanzurehttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/420143/making-git-auto-commit14:21
@kanzureand if you want to get rid of the automatic messages you can do git rebase --interactive to squish them together14:22
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nmz787so some folks on that thread say to commit14:37
nmz787but another guy adds push to the autoscript14:37
@kanzurepush is for sending the commits to another computer/server/thing14:38
nmz787ahh, so if the git is local it doesnt need push14:38
@kanzuregit is always local14:38
@kanzurepush is useful if you, say, want to update a remote repository on github with your latest changes14:38
@kanzuresometimes people push to a testing server that runs all of their unit tests and browser tests so that they can auto-email the developer back with an error report of everything he's broken14:39
nmz787what does this do su -c /home/<username>/bin/gitwait -l <username>14:42
nmz787i dont get the -c and -l14:42
nmz787since the gitwait is a bash scrip14:42
@kanzuresu -c is to execute the following command as another user. su by default switches to root.14:44
@kanzure-l is for gitwait. i don't know what gitwait is.14:44
nmz787its a simple script that has an infinite loop with that inotifywait command14:44
@kanzureoh. nope. -l is for su and chooses the username.14:44
nmz787and then it commits14:44
nmz787yeah14:44
nmz787i dont need to exec it like that14:45
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nmz787so i have a clean dir with two text files14:46
nmz787i have it being monitored for changes14:46
nmz787and git commit -a -m 'blah blah' being issued on file change14:46
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nmz787how do i start a git repo or whatever for that dir14:47
@kanzuregit init14:47
@kanzureyour monitor script will have to do 'git add' if you want to add new files that have not been previously committed14:47
nmz787isnt that what -a does?14:47
@kanzure"automatically "add" changes from all known files (i.e. all files that are already listed in the index)"14:48
nmz787so i still have to git add?14:48
@kanzureyou have to do 'git add --all' if you want to find new things14:49
@kanzurei like to leave files around in my repositories that i don't commit, like scratch notes and other crap14:50
nmz787ok14:50
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jrayhawkhuh, all that and no mention of git-annex-assistant15:46
jrayhawkwhich has propagation as well as commit features15:47
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@kanzurebarriers: fix your client dude18:16
barriers?18:16
@kanzureping timeouts, host changes, closed connections, etc... make up your mind?18:16
barriersgetting cloaks sorted out18:16
barriersnicks grouped18:16
barriersdone now18:17
barrierssorry if it's been a bother18:17
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@kanzure"When they call you must answer their questions truthfully.  Suppose you buy ethanol under the pretense of molecular biology and then divert that material to beverages.  You have now committed mail / wire fraud, a serious crime."18:55
@kanzureyou must answer a supplier's questions truthfully or else it's mail fraud?18:56
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jrayhawkhttp://www.threefelonies.com/Typicalfelonies/tabid/86/Default.aspx19:26
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@kanzureis it because ethanol for beverages is taxed differently?19:34
yashgarothwe still pay the beverage tax on non-denatured alcohol, I believe19:35
@kanzurei can imagine ordering ethanol for uh, some precipitation reaction or something, and then using it for sterilization because why not.19:40
yashgarothstill technically lab use, unless you're sterilizing your martini19:41
yashgarothsigma's "tax-paid" ethanol (http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/chemistry/solvents/products.html?TablePage=14577624) is the same price as their regular listing19:41
yashgarothmaybe large uni's bother getting an exemption, but no one else seems to care enough for the hassle19:43
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