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| superkuh | paperbot: http://pop.aip.org/resource/1/phpaen/v19/i11/p112702_s1 | 00:17 |
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| @kanzure | no access | 00:21 |
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| @kanzure | i'm not sure how github's new "streak" feature works | 00:55 |
| @kanzure | i pushed a few thousand commits to https://github.com/kanzure/streak/commits/master | 00:55 |
| @kanzure | but it only says i've pushed 7 commits today (it should be 9 because of the 2 from 2013-01-11 in streak.git) | 00:56 |
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| archels | http://io9.com/5975002/james-watson-says-antioxidants-may-actually-be-causing-cancer | 04:55 |
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| eudoxia | oh no, io9 | 05:38 |
| eudoxia | quick, destroy this channel | 05:38 |
| eudoxia | it's where the memories live | 05:38 |
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| @kanzure | haha poor alan http://lists.list.humanityplus.org/pipermail/hplus-talk/2012-December/000150.html | 12:00 |
| @kanzure | i don't think he has a billion dollars. not sure what his plan is (get cofounders -> profit?) | 12:00 |
| @kanzure | what a sec, he's also talking about an "uploader conspiracy" http://lists.list.humanityplus.org/pipermail/hplus-talk/2012-November/000114.html | 12:01 |
| @kanzure | i suspect alan is AlonzoTG | 12:01 |
| @kanzure | so, nevermind. troll. | 12:01 |
| nmz787 | "It is thought that antioxidants can prevent damage to DNA from oxygen radicals. But, argues Watson, we want oxygen radicals in cancer cells because this can cause the cells to die. Taking antioxidants might be preventing cancer drugs from destroying cancer cells. Instead, he recommends patients combine anti-antioxidants with cancer drugs." | 12:34 |
| nmz787 | huh | 12:34 |
| nmz787 | not totally outrageous | 12:34 |
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| nmz787 | ". The main factor holding us back from overcoming most of metastatic cancer over the next decade may soon no longer be lack of knowledge but our world's increasing failure to intelligently direct its monetary might' towards more human-society-benefiting directions." | 12:35 |
| nmz787 | "Watson also wants researchers to focus on a protein called Myc, which is believed to regulate the activity of 15% of our genes. Its activity is also linked to many kinds of cancer. Using RNAi methods, it's possible we could figure out a way to control Myc, and thus shut down pathways to cancer." | 12:36 |
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| jrayhawk | watson is an asshole, but he's quite right to make fun of vitamin c supplementation | 13:22 |
| juri_ | being an asshole does not exclude you from being correct. | 13:23 |
| erasmus | why? Not even gets enuf Vit-C | 13:30 |
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| jrayhawk | The antioxidant deficiency research keeps inferring exists is a deficiency in glutathione. Vitamin C input requirements are very low if glutathione is available to do most of the antioxidant work, and to to recycle what little work Vitamin C is actually good for. Meanwhile, high doses of Vitamin C mostly stay degraded DHAA and cause all sorts of problems of their own. | 13:34 |
| jrayhawk | err... to recycle what little amounts of Vitamin C actually do good work. | 13:35 |
| jrayhawk | stay degraded to DHAA | 13:35 |
| jrayhawk | screw it, forming coherent thoughts is too hard for me right now | 13:35 |
| jrayhawk | Vitamin C is way down towards the "impractical" end of the antioxidant totem pole. | 13:36 |
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| @kanzure | what is that git command where i can just say directly what i wnat the parent commit id to be? | 13:49 |
| @kanzure | ah, grafts | 13:54 |
| @kanzure | <3 grafts | 13:54 |
| jrayhawk | huh, never seen that before | 13:54 |
| @kanzure | huh? i am pretty sure you showed me that when i was doing surgery on nanoengineer.git.. | 13:56 |
| jrayhawk | I probably suppressed most of that experience. | 13:56 |
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| @kanzure | paperbot: http://mnras.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/01/07/mnras.sts497.full.pdf | 14:42 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b17b59c2c6a68aacf30f8970dde3884d | 14:42 |
| @kanzure | http://mnras.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/01/07/mnras.sts497.full | 14:43 |
| @kanzure | "A structure in the early Universe at z ∼ 1.3 that exceeds the homogeneity scale of the R-W concordance cosmology" | 14:43 |
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| eudoxia | i can confirm alan grimes is AlonzoTG, he's one of my stalkees | 15:09 |
| @kanzure | ah excellent | 15:09 |
| @kanzure | it's funny that the humanityplus elections weren't even announced on the humanityplus mailing list | 15:10 |
| @kanzure | i didn't know that they got mailman back up. pretty funny. | 15:10 |
| eudoxia | i think they were | 15:10 |
| eudoxia | or that was an old email | 15:10 |
| eudoxia | it's good that that crazy nutjob Haywire got sacked | 15:10 |
| @kanzure | also hilarious that they didn't bother with the wta-talk archives | 15:10 |
| eudoxia | wait what | 15:11 |
| @kanzure | they just have august 2012-forward | 15:11 |
| eudoxia | oh i thought they were no longer going to keep it up | 15:11 |
| eudoxia | i was ready to type "MOTHERFUCKERS" into the channel | 15:12 |
| @kanzure | you can type it anyway. | 15:13 |
| eudoxia | now it doesn't have the feeling | 15:16 |
| eudoxia | so this koen de paus (g+) character started his own h+ forum too | 15:17 |
| eudoxia | in retrospect i can't recall if i mentioned transhumani to him | 15:17 |
| @kanzure | i thought you were totally positive about starting up random forums | 15:18 |
| nmz787 | who is alan grimes | 15:27 |
| @kanzure | AlonzoTG | 15:27 |
| nmz787 | I only know Frank Grimes from the Simpsons | 15:27 |
| @kanzure | he thinks you're going to cut open his head and force him into a computer | 15:27 |
| nmz787 | i mean who the hell /is/ he | 15:27 |
| @kanzure | just some person | 15:28 |
| nmz787 | is he anybody influential otherwise? | 15:28 |
| eudoxia | a transhumanist anti-uploader internet libertarian | 15:28 |
| nmz787 | or rich? | 15:28 |
| nmz787 | politician? | 15:28 |
| @kanzure | he is not known for anything | 15:28 |
| @kanzure | except bugging me | 15:28 |
| juri_ | anti-uploader? thats a new one, to me. | 15:28 |
| nmz787 | ahh | 15:28 |
| eudoxia | if i was rich i sure wouldn't be on the internet making the same argument for *15 years* | 15:29 |
| eudoxia | i'd own a CH-46 and have barrels of fun | 15:29 |
| juri_ | rich is relative. | 15:29 |
| @kanzure | barrels of it | 15:29 |
| eudoxia | i would pay millions for engineers to invent barrels that can hold the abstract concept of fun | 15:30 |
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| @kanzure | api thing to detect objects in images https://www.dextrorobotics.com/experiment | 15:38 |
| @kanzure | seems to work on a few basic categories | 15:38 |
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| nmz787 | objects is pretty wide ranging term | 15:44 |
| nmz787 | 'psate a URL not a link' | 15:45 |
| nmz787 | what does that mean? | 15:45 |
| juri_ | have a http at the beginning of it? | 15:47 |
| @kanzure | that means they are idiots | 15:47 |
| @kanzure | they probably have people pasting a link to a page with an image, instead of people pasting the link to the image | 15:47 |
| juri_ | respond with a tarball containing a single symbolic link from /boot to /dev/null. | 15:48 |
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| nmz787 | lol | 16:33 |
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| abetusk | kanzure, you have some experience with openscad? | 17:17 |
| @kanzure | yes :( | 17:17 |
| abetusk | It's basically a way to go from parametric geometry to STL or DXF? | 17:18 |
| @kanzure | sort of.. it's pretty awful to be honest | 17:23 |
| @kanzure | you might want to consider something more mature like brlcad | 17:23 |
| juri_ | implicitcad! | 17:39 |
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| abetusk | I feel like I'm in a bad 80's "hacker" movie | 17:58 |
| @kanzure | openscad is pretty bad in the scheme of things | 17:58 |
| @kanzure | there's absolutely no reason for it to have a custom language | 17:58 |
| @kanzure | it didn't even have variables for the longest time | 17:58 |
| abetusk | it basically still doesn't. It has the equivalent of defines | 17:59 |
| @kanzure | why would you want to use openscad though? | 17:59 |
| @kanzure | brlcad does all of the same stuff and has way more file formats. | 17:59 |
| abetusk | I'm trying to get a toolchain down | 17:59 |
| abetusk | but they're both byzantine | 17:59 |
| @kanzure | brlcad is the king of toolchains | 17:59 |
| @kanzure | it's a collection of small tools making up a cad suite | 18:00 |
| abetusk | ok, well, I'll give it a try | 18:00 |
| abetusk | brlcad to gcode? | 18:30 |
| @kanzure | there's probably a tool for that | 18:30 |
| @kanzure | b2gcode or something | 18:30 |
| @kanzure | ask in #brlcad if you can't find it | 18:30 |
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| @kanzure | huh opencv is more active than i thought | 19:23 |
| @kanzure | http://code.opencv.org/projects/opencv/activity | 19:23 |
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| * juri_ nods. | 19:25 | |
| juri_ | its being used by pick-and-place machines. | 19:26 |
| juri_ | of the non-cellular variety. | 19:26 |
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| @kanzure | also: shriek was doing transcranial ultrasound as an evil villain | 21:02 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 22:17 |
| juri_ | good morning, not-everyone! | 22:17 |
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| @kanzure | aaron swartz has committed suicide | 23:34 |
| superkuh | Fuck. | 23:34 |
| @kanzure | http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html | 23:35 |
| @kanzure | i sent him an email just seven days ago.. | 23:35 |
| joshcryer | OMG. :( | 23:39 |
| @kanzure | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5046845 | 23:39 |
| juri_ | Didn't know him, but i'm sorry for your (and our) loss. | 23:58 |
| @kanzure | he ran in our circle, used to fetch pdfs for me | 23:58 |
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