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| cpopell | paperbot http://www.scientific.net/AMR.633.148 | 00:17 |
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| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a7c08b65e66cfee9cf5eacd82af962c1.txt | 00:17 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.scientific.net/AMR.633.148.pdf | 00:19 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5f3b3f81aa6c737eea7dd5f13fa6ba29.txt | 00:19 |
| @kanzure | no access | 00:19 |
| klafka | <_< | 00:21 |
| klafka | >_> | 00:21 |
| klafka | hey are you familiar with pandas kanzure? | 00:29 |
| @kanzure | panda the 3d gaming framework? | 00:30 |
| @kanzure | panda the video encoding company? | 00:30 |
| @kanzure | panda the R/python thing? | 00:31 |
| klafka | python thing | 00:31 |
| @kanzure | i haven't used it much | 00:32 |
| klafka | trying to figure out if i can make pandas dataframe from sparse matrix | 00:33 |
| klafka | oh i can just check this out | 00:34 |
| klafka | i must admit i hate that it's 'DataFrame' | 00:35 |
| klafka | wtf pandas | 00:35 |
| @kanzure | so is this just a bridge to R? | 00:36 |
| klafka | no | 00:40 |
| klafka | it replicates and expands upon core functionality of R dataframes | 00:40 |
| klafka | using numpy | 00:40 |
| klafka | as its base | 00:40 |
| klafka | looks like the answer is no btw | 00:41 |
| klafka | which sucks :( | 00:41 |
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| klafka | also it sucks you can't directly create a sparse dataframe directly | 00:43 |
| klafka | which doesn't make sense because if you make the sparse dataframe from a non-sparse one oyu already have the non-sparse one in memory | 00:43 |
| klafka | i think i'll make a sparse one and then pickle it | 00:43 |
| klafka | (we can pickle that!0 | 00:43 |
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| @kanzure | jrayhawk: pasky: do either of you know a quick way to use filter-branch to prune empty merge commits? | 00:44 |
| @kanzure | i can prune empty commits but empty merges are sticking around. | 00:44 |
| klafka | i wonder if i should just not use pandas at all and just use sparse matrices | 00:45 |
| klafka | hmmm | 00:45 |
| jrayhawk | Do you mean fast forward merges? | 00:46 |
| archels | paperbot: http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=23097501 | 00:46 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9784810afd70d575302b0cece186e49e.txt | 00:46 |
| jrayhawk | You'd have to reorder the commits in order to get rid of merges; is that what you want? | 00:46 |
| archels | paperbot: http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/10/78/20120669.full.pdf+html | 00:46 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8e0e02fa29107d5900b332a6b828c96a.txt | 00:47 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: actually, let me look more closely. | 00:47 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: i have pruned a repository and deleted lots of files, and i wanted to remove empty commits. there were merge commits that now reference empty commits. | 00:49 |
| @kanzure | for whatever reason, git is smart enough to not delete an empty commit that is referenced by a merge commit. | 00:49 |
| jrayhawk | oh, i see | 00:49 |
| @kanzure | i suppose it would have to transform the merge commit into a regular commit | 00:50 |
| @kanzure | which sounds out-of-scope for normal git things | 00:50 |
| jrayhawk | git-filter-branch --prune-empty | 00:51 |
| jrayhawk | but if it's too late for that, then you'll probably have to programmatically use cherry-pick | 00:51 |
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| @kanzure | oh wait that helped a little | 00:53 |
| @kanzure | 800 commits -> 520 commits | 00:53 |
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| @kanzure | there's lots of questions in the logs about whether or not google scholar supports google alerts | 10:34 |
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| cpopell | finally on multiple monitors | 11:00 |
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| eudoxia | haha | 11:32 |
| eudoxia | oh shit wrong window | 11:32 |
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| @kanzure | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10827-012-0431-7 | 11:35 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20spatial%20pattern%20of%20light%20determines%20the%20kinetics%20and%20modulates%20backpropagation%20of%20optogenetic%20action%20potentials.pdf | 11:35 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://iopscience.iop.org/1741-2552/9/6/066005 | 11:37 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Properties%20and%20application%20of%20a%20multichannel%20integrated%20circuit%20for%20low-artifact%2C%20patterned%20electrical%20stimulation%20of%20neural%20tissue.pdf | 11:37 |
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| @kanzure | "Chrome 24 had MathML in it. But they plan to turn it off in Chrome 25." | 11:50 |
| @kanzure | what. | 11:50 |
| @kanzure | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=152430#c32 | 11:51 |
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| archels | paperbot: http://jn.physiology.org/content/56/1/184.full.pdf+html | 12:28 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Simultaneous%20control%20of%20two%20rhythmical%20behaviors.%20II.%20Hindlimb%20walking%20with%20paw-shake%20response%20in%20spinal%20cat.pdf | 12:28 |
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| @kanzure | "Amazon Glacier is designed to provide average annual durability of 99.999999999% for an archive." | 12:46 |
| @kanzure | i don't think i can count that many 9s | 12:46 |
| @kanzure | 12:47 < rmah> so, if they have 100PB, they lose 1MB of data a year | 12:48 |
| klafka | damn | 12:48 |
| jrayhawk | huh, that's pretty cool | 12:51 |
| @kanzure | "You can retrieve up to 5% of your average monthly storage (pro-rated daily) for free each month." | 12:51 |
| @kanzure | "If you choose to retrieve more than this amount of data in a month, you are charged a retrieval fee starting at $0.01 per gigabyte. Learn more. In addition, there is a pro-rated charge of $0.03 per gigabyte for items deleted prior to 90 days." | 12:51 |
| @kanzure | dropbox charges $60/mo for 1 TB. i'm surprised that there's no especially-cheap bulk file storage solution for consumer use (not companies). | 12:52 |
| ephialtes480 | ya, it is unfortunate. Amazon always involves calculations to figure out how much you will actually pay them. | 12:55 |
| ephialtes480 | I like secure companies like SpiderOak that have no access to customer data | 12:55 |
| @kanzure | is that better than tarsnap | 12:55 |
| klafka | you could always encrypt it | 12:55 |
| ephialtes480 | true, they save me the trouble though, looking at tarsnap now | 12:56 |
| ephialtes480 | tarsnap comes out at $30 for 100GB? Versus $10 at Spideroak - no bandwidth costs at Spideroak plus advantages of easy synch across computers and headless command line client | 12:58 |
| @kanzure | "Spider Oak Blue costs $600/TB per month." ... no thanks. | 12:58 |
| ephialtes480 | I don't understand teh $0.30 per GB month on tarsnap? | 12:59 |
| klafka | wow that's more expensive than s3 | 12:59 |
| ephialtes480 | 0.30*1000=$300? no? | 12:59 |
| klafka | yeah | 13:00 |
| ephialtes480 | where do you get $600? I have 500GB for $40 per month (but got it back when student) | 13:00 |
| ephialtes480 | https://spideroak.com/personal_pricing/ | 13:01 |
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| nmz787 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/fei_company/ | 13:22 |
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| jrayhawk | coooool | 13:30 |
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| juri_ | very neat. | 13:37 |
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| nmz787 | ttyl | 13:39 |
| nmz787 | gotta go teach little kids about SCIENCE for an hour! | 13:39 |
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| @kanzure | jstor watermarks are removable now, | 15:43 |
| @kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/commit/b7b5a4ef65edb51eae2fdf1254e865b489f418b9 | 15:43 |
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| Juul | \o/ | 15:49 |
| ephialtes480 | fantastic kanzure! | 15:52 |
| ephialtes480 | I spent some time working on Cambridge journals but it wasn't finding the object "Downloaded by" on the bottom of first page. slightly different structure to the Filter | 15:53 |
| @kanzure | jstor injects the text into each page's content | 15:53 |
| @kanzure | cambridge journals might do something similar | 15:53 |
| Juul | this is off topic, but i have to mention it: the people on the other side of this desk are testing a home-made silicone butt-plug to prevent anal leakage, using a setup that brings to mind the word "contraption" involving two shakers on top of each other, rubber tubing, paper clips and a pig's rectum | 15:56 |
| @kanzure | awesome, you should hang out with those people more | 15:56 |
| Juul | i agree | 15:56 |
| ephialtes480 | I got tand journal articles working (deletes watermark at beginning and along each page) but ends up with mostly blank first two pages (removing nice summary of citation on first page), is there easy way to remove the blank pages with pdfminer? | 15:56 |
| @kanzure | well, it would be nice if the summary could remain intact | 15:58 |
| @kanzure | but yes you can remove entire pages using the pdfparanoia.eraser.remove_object_by_id(content, object_id) method | 15:59 |
| ephialtes480 | true, for some reason the object matching "downloaded by" also matches everything on first page. Your method for jstor cuts out a piece of an object? | 16:00 |
| @kanzure | yes | 16:00 |
| @kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/blob/master/pdfparanoia/plugins/jstor.py | 16:01 |
| @kanzure | line 82 is where i replace the "Accessed: " line on the front page | 16:01 |
| @kanzure | line 71 is where i replace the footer (it is literally the last text on the page, so i just delete that crap) | 16:01 |
| ephialtes480 | ok, no time tonight, but I'll see if I can get tand and cambridge journals journals working, and redo the former to be more surgical | 16:01 |
| @kanzure | if you show me some sample files, i could try it | 16:02 |
| ephialtes480 | I'm a newb at github, is best way to check out a branch, push to my repo and then issue pull request with that when done? | 16:02 |
| @kanzure | that's a reasonable way to do this yes | 16:02 |
| ephialtes480 | ok, I'd hand you the sample files but suspect you would make very quick work of it...I'd like to use this is as learning opportunity and I'll give it a shot, rather than dumping more work on you. Grateful for you getting this rolling... | 16:03 |
| @kanzure | heh josh https://github.com/gourneau/BeardDetector | 16:23 |
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| @kanzure | Etheros: hello | 16:32 |
| Etheros | howdy | 16:33 |
| Etheros | not much activity tonight? | 16:34 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0735109793906992 | 16:35 |
| @kanzure | Etheros: what | 16:35 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Cardiovascular%20effects%20of%20lightning%20strikes.pdf | 16:35 |
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| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.opticsinfobase.org/ao/abstract.cfm?id=18878 | 16:49 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fcb630c94bf47dba0623bbda11bfc5e8.txt | 16:49 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.opticsinfobase.org/ao/viewmedia.cfm?uri=ao-13-10-2292&seq=0 | 16:49 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6715f8dabb362e12396200609fa79622.txt | 16:49 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.opticsinfobase.org/DirectPDFAccess/F54B6E0E-F174-D2C1-7EA3CFB28E014B99_18878/ao-13-10-2292.pdf?da=1&id=18878&seq=0&mobile=no | 16:49 |
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| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/385eeeaebfa783d12e36abdd7a09668b.pdf | 16:50 |
| @kanzure | welp i want one | 16:53 |
| klafka | Q_Q | 16:53 |
| @kanzure | laser thor is gonna be the best | 16:54 |
| klafka | man i am amazed at the windows surface pro | 16:54 |
| klafka | also nice paper from 1974 | 16:54 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.teramobile2.org/publications/hv_ol.pdf | 16:55 |
| @kanzure | "Triggering and guiding megavolt discharges by use of laser-induced ionized filaments" | 16:55 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f25c12796bb3653f76a4c346b5073e16.pdf | 16:55 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://pop.aip.org/resource/1/phpaen/v8/i5/p2532_s1 | 16:55 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/acf488512adcaedd558575a663aadfcc.txt | 16:55 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://link.aip.org/link/?PHPAEN/8/2532/1 | 16:56 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c2aa48ecdb98e83ec39344dac9757dd7.txt | 16:56 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=PHPAEN000008000005002532000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.1342230&prog=normal | 16:56 |
| @kanzure | "Triggering and guiding high-voltage large-scale leader discharges with sub-joule ultrashort laser pulses" | 16:56 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/135478d226a06302402304edfa253604.pdf | 16:56 |
| @kanzure | oh wait, that's not atmospheric. that's just some airgap. | 16:57 |
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| @kanzure | paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000098000004043101000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.2009076&prog=normal | 17:05 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/55f351b7ffafdd49e29774b7ca4713bc.pdf | 17:05 |
| @kanzure | "Improvement of the atmospheric discharge laser-triggered ability using multiple pulses from a kilohertz KrF laser" | 17:05 |
| @kanzure | blah, another airgap one. these scientists aren't thinking big enough. | 17:06 |
| klafka | DARPA (the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) has awarded $3 million to software provider Continuum Analytics to help fund the development of Python's data processing and visualization capabilities for big data jobs. | 17:09 |
| klafka | that's pretty cool | 17:09 |
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| @kanzure | "the team's Teramobile laser is the first solid-state system to generate lightning successfully in thunderclouds. From a site atop New Mexico's South Baldy Peak, femtosecond laser pulses "seeded" storm clouds. As the lasers penetrated the atmosphere, they created plasma filaments along their path." | 17:10 |
| @kanzure | "The lasers succeeded in triggering lightning discharges in the thunderclouds, though the pulses were too short-lived to provide a conduit all the way to the ground. Now the researchers are reprogramming their lasers with more-powerful pulse trains in a bid to create filaments that will conduct the lightning back to terra firma." | 17:10 |
| @kanzure | "The lab was able to confirm that Teramobile's lasers generated local electrical discharges in the clouds, but the plasma channels only persisted long enough for them to travel a distance of less than 10m. Now the researchers are reprogramming Teramobile to create bursts of femtosecond pulses at 10x higher power." | 17:11 |
| @kanzure | 10 meters :( | 17:11 |
| klafka | what are you trying to do? make lightning from clouds with lasers? | 17:13 |
| @kanzure | i think it would be fun and i'm wondering how feasible it is | 17:13 |
| Mariu | will be nice to see multiple laser pointers on a cloud :o | 17:14 |
| Mariu | at night | 17:14 |
| juri_ | um. | 17:20 |
| juri_ | if you can control where they strike, that's a lot of energy. | 17:20 |
| @kanzure | "In spite of these limitations, field experiments using high-energy lasers [8] were carried out to intercept lightning with lasers on the shore of the Sea of Japan. A first CO2 laser delivering 1 kJ was focused on a dielectric target at the top of a 50 m high tower constructed on a 200 m high hill." | 17:21 |
| @kanzure | "A second one was aimed near the dielectric to form a 2 m long plasma spark. A third, ultraviolet laser was producing a weakly ionized plasma channel, slightly offset from the tower, to direct the leader to the cloud." | 17:21 |
| @kanzure | this is a good overview: | 17:25 |
| @kanzure | http://www.teramobile.org/publications/PUILS_kasparian_lihgtning_revised_compact.pdf | 17:25 |
| Etheros | whats wrong with nuclear power rather than going to all of the effort to develop a new energy source? | 17:32 |
| @kanzure | that isn't for energy | 17:32 |
| Etheros | oh | 17:32 |
| Etheros | whoops sorry | 17:33 |
| @kanzure | i have a flair for the dramatic | 17:33 |
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| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=120f8fbf Bryan Bishop: better support for aip.org | 17:59 |
| gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 17:59 |
| paperbot | gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-07 01:59:59) | 18:00 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: what you think about ppl saying that some watermarks may not be visible... and embedded somewhere, or steganographed? | 18:01 |
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| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=8a1b2c50 Bryan Bishop: ignore citation_pdf_url on aip.org | 18:02 |
| gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 18:02 |
| paperbot | gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-07 02:02:59) | 18:03 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://apl.aip.org/resource/1/applab/v100/i18/p181112_s1 | 18:03 |
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| @kanzure | excellent. | 18:03 |
| @kanzure | nmz787: i would like to see evidence of that. so far i haven't found anything. i've diffed files and i've looked at headers. | 18:04 |
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| @kanzure | NickKovacs: hi | 18:17 |
| @kanzure | welcome back | 18:17 |
| NickKovacs | hi bryan | 18:17 |
| NickKovacs | i was wondering if UT has like a surplus store with some old lab equipment for sale | 18:18 |
| NickKovacs | like flasks, beakers, etc | 18:18 |
| @kanzure | there's auctions i think, but i dunno about any surplus stores. | 18:18 |
| NickKovacs | hmmm, well alright | 18:18 |
| NickKovacs | so whats up? | 18:19 |
| @kanzure | fixing https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia and https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot | 18:19 |
| NickKovacs | damn, thats awesome | 18:22 |
| NickKovacs | I need to get better aquainted with github, not too sure how else to work on my programming skills | 18:23 |
| ephialtes480 | kanzure, fascinating, found how how Cambridge is obscuring the watermark | 18:24 |
| @kanzure | NickKovacs: read lots of code, break things, experience the shame of writing bad code. | 18:24 |
| ephialtes480 | it encapsulates every separate character of "Downloaded by" in a bbox, making it impossible to find by usual methods... | 18:24 |
| @kanzure | ephialtes480: that's lame. does it appear at the end of the data each time? maybe it can just be deleted recklessly without checking if it is "Downloaded by". | 18:25 |
| ephialtes480 | Manually looking at XML output of pdf2txt.py (from PDFminer creater Yusuke) identifies what may be the object number...testing this theory now... | 18:26 |
| @kanzure | the object number will change from document to document | 18:26 |
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| @kanzure | dunno if i'm going to do it now, but american society for nutrition also adds watermarks: | 18:42 |
| @kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/2 | 18:42 |
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| ephialtes480 | kanzure so you run each PDF through every plugin, wouldn't it be better to reduce duplication of finding the xref and grabbing all the objects? Each of the plugins go through that process. What if that was already stored before plugins check them? | 18:59 |
| @kanzure | institute of physics: https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/3 | 19:01 |
| @kanzure | ephialtes480: sure, that is one possible improvement | 19:01 |
| cpopell | hm. I may have reasons to use pdfparanoia. | 19:04 |
| @kanzure | damn, i should be using pdfs about paranoia to test pdfparanoia | 19:07 |
| @kanzure | win 4 | 19:08 |
| @kanzure | ack | 19:08 |
| Mariu | where ? | 19:09 |
| @kanzure | ? | 19:10 |
| Mariu | where is Win 4 ? | 19:10 |
| @kanzure | what | 19:11 |
| yashgaroth | idaho | 19:11 |
| Mariu | :p | 19:28 |
| Mariu | ok | 19:28 |
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| nmz787 | i can never remember the name of the windows version of baobab | 20:34 |
| nmz787 | ahh | 20:35 |
| nmz787 | windirstat | 20:35 |
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| nmz787 | 6gb of 297 free | 20:35 |
| nmz787 | yikes | 20:35 |
| nmz787 | i can't dual-boot with that! | 20:35 |
| jrayhawk | liar; i ran debian just fine on a 360MB drive | 20:42 |
| nmz787 | lol | 20:44 |
| klafka | man i do not understand the multi-armed bandit terminology well at all | 20:44 |
| klafka | shit | 20:44 |
| nmz787 | klafka: what is that? | 20:44 |
| klafka | it's a series of online optimization algorithms | 20:44 |
| klafka | er set | 20:45 |
| nmz787 | like hindu gods? (except they aren't bandits) | 20:45 |
| nmz787 | oh | 20:45 |
| klafka | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-armed_bandit | 20:45 |
| klafka | sort of - basically the idea is if a bandit had many hands to pull a slot machine on, which slot machines should he pull the lever on and in which order | 20:45 |
| klafka | for maximal return | 20:45 |
| klafka | that's the 'inspiration' | 20:45 |
| klafka | it's similar to reinforcement learning | 20:46 |
| nmz787 | klafka: so successful gamblers have solved this with their wetware? | 20:47 |
| klafka | traditionally it was considered that you had no pre-existing knowledge about what machine to play | 20:47 |
| klafka | no succesful gamblers don't play slot machines | 20:47 |
| nmz787 | klafka: my dad's gf literally goes to work, then comes home and plays online free slots, then sleeps, then plays online free slots, then goes to work..... | 20:48 |
| klafka | on her phone? | 20:48 |
| nmz787 | laptop | 20:48 |
| klafka | or computer? | 20:48 |
| klafka | aah | 20:48 |
| nmz787 | but, they aren't rich | 20:48 |
| nmz787 | hah | 20:48 |
| klafka | oh she plays it for money | 20:49 |
| klafka | lol | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | though my dad says she's really good at it 'has the touch' | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | no, the online thing is point based | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | so its just feeds addiction i guess | 20:49 |
| klafka | she's really working those pseudorandom number generators | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | but yeah i guess she goes to the casino with her mom n shit | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | and vegas sends her free deals | 20:50 |
| klafka | that's slightly horrifying | 20:50 |
| nmz787 | yeah it's weird | 20:50 |
| klafka | i work with a lot of companies that make mobile slots games or mobile bingo games | 20:50 |
| klafka | it's incredible how popular they are | 20:50 |
| klafka | like sooo popular | 20:50 |
| nmz787 | yeah, i dont get it | 20:54 |
| nmz787 | actually i installed my first android game earlier | 20:55 |
| nmz787 | it's some simpsons tapped out thing | 20:55 |
| nmz787 | it's probably as stupid as farm ville sounds | 20:55 |
| nmz787 | but i like the simpsons | 20:55 |
| nmz787 | so i'll screw with it i guess | 20:55 |
| nmz787 | it said its gonna download like 200mb of shit on the first launch | 20:56 |
| nmz787 | so it must have decent media | 20:56 |
| @kanzure | the mobile casino apps are paying >$300/user that you bring them. | 21:08 |
| klafka | kanzure: we do UA for them but also do advertising | 21:08 |
| klafka | so they run our ads | 21:08 |
| @kanzure | "People with access to enzymes, multielectrode arrays, and other Grinder materials" | 21:16 |
| @kanzure | yep it's official i hate rich lee | 21:16 |
| klafka | what? | 21:16 |
| @kanzure | he's just throwing around words | 21:17 |
| klafka | what are 'grinder' materials? | 21:17 |
| @kanzure | "grinding" is a subculture that doesn't really encompass "enzymes" or "multi"electrode arrays | 21:17 |
| @kanzure | he's just making up bullshit, exactly | 21:17 |
| @kanzure | http://transhumanity.net/articles/entry/diy-grinding-get-in-here-transhumanism-is-a-verb-not-a-club | 21:19 |
| @kanzure | he's been making up crap about grinding for a while now | 21:19 |
| @kanzure | what a fucking liar "Nobody I talked to seemed to feel the same sense of urgency that I did." | 21:21 |
| @kanzure | "Sure, Lepht was using non-standard tools and non-standard sterilization methods, but hey, " that wasn't the criticism -_- | 21:22 |
| klafka | kanzure: you're familiar with that webcomic 'the man i almost was' | 21:22 |
| @kanzure | no | 21:22 |
| nmz787 | where i'm from grinders are the same as hoagies or submarines | 21:23 |
| @kanzure | nuclear submarines? | 21:24 |
| klafka | http://www.electricsheepcomix.com/almostguy/ | 21:24 |
| klafka | wow this is from 1998 | 21:24 |
| nmz787 | 'and homeostasis'...' I say eliminate the need altogether. ' | 21:25 |
| klafka | http://www.electricsheepcomix.com/rave/ | 21:25 |
| nmz787 | (that might be out of context_ | 21:25 |
| nmz787 | ) | 21:25 |
| yashgaroth | grinders are remarkably against eating, sleeping, pooping, etc | 21:25 |
| yashgaroth | against the idea moreso than the practice, naturally | 21:25 |
| nmz787 | 'Sure, Lepht was using non-standard tools and non-standard sterilization methods' | 21:26 |
| nmz787 | i thought they completely omitted a literature search | 21:26 |
| yashgaroth | yeah no she could definitely spring for a razor blade...potato peelers? | 21:26 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: no like subway sandwiches, they were originally called submarine sandwiches | 21:26 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: maybe not that specific company, but the type of sandwich | 21:27 |
| nmz787 | there was a lot of talk about coatings | 21:27 |
| yashgaroth | oh I see how you guys got onto sandwiches | 21:27 |
| nmz787 | and i did a quick google scholar and found definitive factual info on what coatings worked, etc... that it took they a bunch of rejections to figure out | 21:27 |
| nmz787 | 'Lepht thought it all out more than I probably would have and the actual hazard was not that great in that instance anyway. ' | 21:28 |
| nmz787 | hahahah | 21:28 |
| nmz787 | so he fails to do lit searches worse than lepth | 21:28 |
| nmz787 | 'Lepht thought it all out more than I probably would have and the actual hazard was not that great in that instance anyway. ' | 21:29 |
| nmz787 | i mean | 21:29 |
| nmz787 | 'I met a woman named Poppy who had removed her own tonsils because she couldnt afford the procedure.' | 21:29 |
| nmz787 | that sounds useful | 21:29 |
| nmz787 | i'd like to read an article on her | 21:29 |
| @kanzure | i mean, rich claims that nobody in transhumanism is doing anything, but there's some projects in here that are interesting and this place is peripherally related. fuck rich. | 21:31 |
| @kanzure | (and rich knows us) | 21:31 |
| nmz787 | 'From now on Transhumanism is a Verb, not a Club.' | 21:31 |
| nmz787 | i think this guy should consult an english major to iron this out | 21:31 |
| nmz787 | i can't think of other -ism words that are verbs | 21:32 |
| yashgaroth | schism | 21:32 |
| nmz787 | wouldn't the verb be transhumanize or transhumanizing | 21:32 |
| nmz787 | 'dudes i'll be back, i gotta go transhumanize' | 21:32 |
| yashgaroth | transhumanize the eschaton | 21:33 |
| nmz787 | vs | 21:33 |
| nmz787 | 'dudes i'll be back, i gotta go transhumanism' | 21:33 |
| nmz787 | err | 21:33 |
| nmz787 | sorry, try again | 21:33 |
| @kanzure | klafka: so i'm reading this, and this guy is an idiot. he did fake interviews instead of coding or building shit. i think he's an idiot. | 21:36 |
| klafka | lololol | 21:37 |
| @kanzure | "GUYS LIKE JARON LANIER ARE GOING TO BE BILLIONAIRES." | 21:39 |
| @kanzure | oh that's just precious | 21:39 |
| yashgaroth | ugh | 21:39 |
| klafka | haha | 21:39 |
| nmz787 | who is jaron? | 21:40 |
| yashgaroth | a shitlord who complains about virtual reality | 21:40 |
| yashgaroth | in other news, 4 repraps slated for the local lab by tomorrow | 21:43 |
| nmz787 | the lifetech space? | 21:49 |
| @kanzure | klafka: jaron lanier is a transhumanism hater | 21:49 |
| yashgaroth | it's lifetech-adjacent, yes | 21:49 |
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