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| bkero | Mmm, 1080p headset came today | 00:45 |
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| bkero | Have FXI Cotton Candy and USB Battery too. | 00:45 |
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| jrayhawk | Wait, 1080p? who makes that? | 00:46 |
| bkero | Silicon Microdisplay ST1080 | 00:48 |
| bkero | Typing to you from it now. :) | 00:52 |
| jrayhawk | hot damn, that's 1080 per eye | 00:52 |
| bkero | Yessir | 00:53 |
| bkero | It's pretty slick shit | 00:54 |
| jrayhawk | 80fps per color, staggered by channel | 00:55 |
| jrayhawk | Huh, that's bound to get annoying, but I guess we'd have to wait another few years for microwire processes to get down to appropriate size for that. | 00:56 |
| jrayhawk | Does it have integration with any major 3D engines yet? | 00:57 |
| bkero | Supports 3 different 3d standards, don't know if it needs more support inside engines than that. | 00:58 |
| ThomasEgi | for 3d rendering. all you usualy need is a driver that supports it. | 00:58 |
| jrayhawk | Orientation tracking is the concern, not rendering. | 01:02 |
| archels | bkero: didn't want to wait for the Oculus Rift eh? | 01:10 |
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| bkero | archels: have one of those preordered as well, but nowhere near the resolution. | 01:26 |
| archels | ah really, that's disappointing. I was looking forward to the idea of having an almost limitless virtual display, thanks to its low-latency head orientation tracking. | 01:38 |
| archels | ResolutionDeveloper kit: 1280×800 (640×800 per eye),[4] Consumer version: >=1920x1080 | 01:39 |
| archels | ">=" seems to indicate a promise rather than hard fact :) | 01:39 |
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| ThomasEgi | doesnt the st1080 come without tracking? | 01:51 |
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| ParahSail1n | paperbot: http://doi.apa.org/index.cfm?doi=10.1037/0735-7044.120.2.353 | 06:52 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a556846176f5ce3c2a07bb72805ee252.txt | 06:53 |
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| nmz787 | paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja990592p | 08:37 |
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| nmz787 | error 500 indeed! | 08:38 |
| nmz787 | cheers to error 500! | 08:38 |
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| delinquentme | purchasing microplates ... I need a 96 well V-bottom microplate with very minimal "structure" at the bottom I'm using it to stick into a heating block and so I need the smallest air-gap that I can get ... anyone know what these are called? | 09:53 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1127598 | 11:45 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/88410233f8614b91408740954a4cf9fc.pdf | 11:45 |
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| chris_99 | does anyone know of anything about when the Nanopore sequencer will be out | 12:16 |
| chris_99 | or anything similar | 12:16 |
| ParahSailin | oxford nanopore? | 12:45 |
| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/10/2375.full.pdf+html | 12:45 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20fractional%20programming%20approach%20to%20efficient%20DNA%20melting%20temperature%20calculation.pdf | 12:46 |
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| klafka | http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4009202/facebook-apple-google-moguls-award-research-extending-life | 12:49 |
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| ParahSailin | we should get some seeds from bowman (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/business/justices-signal-a-monsanto-edge-in-patent-case.html?_r=0) | 13:14 |
| ParahSailin | pirate the shit out of them | 13:14 |
| chris_99 | yeah oxford nanonpore ParahSail1n | 13:15 |
| chris_99 | *nano | 13:16 |
| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1521-0391.2013.00309.x/pdf | 13:22 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d2582afa8af58f5393d36be2fd52a896.txt | 13:23 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vnfv/ncurrent/full/nature11028.html | 13:23 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Optogenetic%20stimulation%20of%20a%20hippocampal%20engram%20activates%20fear%20memory%20recall.pdf | 13:23 |
| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1111/j.1521-0391.2013.00309.x/asset/ajad309.pdf?v=1&t=hdeznozo&s=50a50aecd85fb140943fd1d8267f8e87c76e91db | 13:25 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d93585683a455c8ea6a6b92f8b3e40c6.pdf | 13:25 |
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| kanzure | http://google.com/glass just marketing stuff, but whatever. looks like the betas they shipped might be real. | 14:05 |
| klafka | yeah | 14:08 |
| kanzure | welp, time to start on a facial recognition project. | 14:09 |
| kanzure | i think a 10 second lag would be acceptable, if it had to upload a picture to a remote server to get details back. | 14:09 |
| klafka | what about just to your phone | 14:11 |
| klafka | by the time glass is commercially available i bet phones can handle facial recognition | 14:11 |
| kanzure | your phone still can't have terabytes of data for storing facial recognition data sets | 14:12 |
| kanzure | i mean, i can't imagine a scenario in the next few years where your phone can accurately recognize every one of the 7 billion people | 14:12 |
| klafka | oh good point | 14:12 |
| klafka | umm i figured you'd do facial recognition from your friends | 14:13 |
| klafka | rather you'd grow the set youreslf | 14:13 |
| kanzure | those are the people you know | 14:13 |
| kanzure | i want it when i need it most | 14:13 |
| klafka | got it | 14:13 |
| klafka | mmm | 14:13 |
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| strangewarp | Sent Google a throwaway application for their Glass promotion thingy. Maybe I'll luck out and get a pair, then figure out how to write a bridge between Pd on a laptop and a HUD client on Glass. | 14:32 |
| strangewarp | My extreme-DIY music setup currently has an annoying bottleneck where I have to steal glances at a laptop screen while singing, and that is pretty annoying. | 14:33 |
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| strangewarp | http://robrhinehart.com/?p=298 - Anyone have any opinions on this? I found the link while Poetry Twitter People were ripping the guy apart for being so obviously lonely and disgusting and unfeeling that he wanted to remove the warmth of food from his life. | 16:49 |
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| strangewarp | But it's fascinating. | 16:50 |
| strangewarp | He claims to have created a total food-replacement substance, covering all nutritional needs, and sating all cravings, for $50/month. And that's without any economies-of-scale involved. | 16:50 |
| ParahSail1n | creepy | 16:51 |
| strangewarp | He calls it Soylent, because.. of course he would. | 16:51 |
| Thorbinator | if you can give it variable texture and flavor packets | 16:52 |
| Thorbinator | I'd use it | 16:52 |
| strangewarp | It's an oily frothy drink, it seems. | 16:52 |
| strangewarp | Apparently it is delicious, but he wasn't expecting it to be. | 16:53 |
| Thorbinator | the biggest problem with human chow is how monotonous it is compared to our actual diet | 16:53 |
| ParahSail1n | it doesnt list the formula | 16:53 |
| jrayhawk | http://robrhinehart.com/?p=424 | 16:53 |
| jrayhawk | is the formula | 16:53 |
| strangewarp | Follow-up post with recipe: http://robrhinehart.com/?p=424 | 16:53 |
| strangewarp | ah, beaten | 16:53 |
| jrayhawk | It's one hell of a lot better than the crap people normally eat. | 16:53 |
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| jrayhawk | The overabsorbability is going to screw his intestinal flora up pretty bad, though, and I'm not convinced he's being adequately careful about the nutrient forms and resulting bioavailability. | 16:54 |
| ParahSail1n | dubious premise | 16:54 |
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| strangewarp | hmm | 16:54 |
| ParahSail1n | but i guess these sorts of experiments are how scientists originally learned of the vitamins and micronutrients we've discovered so far | 16:56 |
| jrayhawk | Like, is that ω3 short chain or long chain? Is that folate folic acid or an actual tetrahydrofolate? Is that iron iron oxide or heme? Is that b12 cyanocobalamin? | 16:57 |
| jrayhawk | These things matter a lot and he doesn't seem to care. | 16:58 |
| ParahSail1n | all kinds of red flags | 16:58 |
| jrayhawk | Eh, he's still way better off than normal folks. | 16:59 |
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| strangewarp | Yeah, that's about what I figured, but it's good to get confirmation from actual science people. | 17:00 |
| strangewarp | I'm tempted to try it, since I'm currently on an ultra-low food budget.. | 17:00 |
| jrayhawk | Doing it with proper forms will be prohibitively expensive. | 17:01 |
| ParahSail1n | im pretty sure chemical isolates are more expensive than actual unrefined foods | 17:02 |
| ParahSail1n | get more money so that you can afford to eat | 17:03 |
| strangewarp | working on it :s | 17:03 |
| strangewarp | I like that diet for its unabashed modernism most of all, really | 17:04 |
| jrayhawk | isolates are probably the cheapest approach until you start factoring in the externalities of agricultural subsidies | 17:04 |
| ParahSail1n | hm, you can get a metric ton of maltodextrin for $500 | 17:06 |
| jrayhawk | Like, wheat is nutritionally near-worthless and immunologically disastrous, but deriving dextrose from that wheat is not a lot of extra cost. | 17:06 |
| ParahSail1n | are the chemical isolates of all the vitamins that cheap too? | 17:13 |
| jrayhawk | So long as you don't care about bioavailability. | 17:13 |
| ParahSail1n | doubt its cheaper than beef liver puree | 17:17 |
| * strangewarp reads up on bioavailability wrt vitamins... | 17:17 | |
| jrayhawk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwbY12qZcF4 is kinda interesting to watch | 17:18 |
| jrayhawk | It's about density rather than bioavailability, but the liver thing reminded me of it. | 17:19 |
| ParahSail1n | whats he say in video | 17:19 |
| ParahSail1n | its very hard to scroll and skim a video to find the new information | 17:20 |
| jrayhawk | There are a few surprises; the biggest one being that animal fats are crap for nutrients. | 17:21 |
| jrayhawk | Liver and shellfish still come out on top, though. | 17:21 |
| jrayhawk | (no surprise) | 17:21 |
| ParahSail1n | crap for nutrients except for vitamin a, k, cholesterol, omegles? | 17:24 |
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| jrayhawk | Cholesterol is not an essential nutrient and endogenous production outstrips dietary sources by at worst a factor of ten. | 17:24 |
| jrayhawk | But even the fat soluable vitamins are pretty low in most cases. | 17:25 |
| ParahSail1n | factor of ten? citation? | 17:25 |
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| panax | should i go for low cholesterol or high | 17:27 |
| kanzure | http://hackteria.org/wiki/index.php/HackteriaLab_2013_Commons | 17:28 |
| jrayhawk | panax: Doesn't matter much. | 17:28 |
| ParahSail1n | animal fats are mostly good as macronutrient | 17:30 |
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| sseehh_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redox_signaling | 17:33 |
| jrayhawk | Oh, folks with hypercholesterolemia are apparently a much worse case. | 17:39 |
| jrayhawk | or, in some cases, rather | 17:40 |
| jrayhawk | That's more variable than I thought it was. | 17:40 |
| jrayhawk | What I get for believing Ancel Keys about anything. | 17:40 |
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| jrayhawk | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16340654 | 17:46 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/12ebace9a225e88bc802c763eecde267.txt | 17:46 |
| jrayhawk | paperbot: http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev.nu.12.070192.001503 | 17:51 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Dietary%20Impact%20on%20Biliary%20Lipids%20and%20Gallstones.pdf | 17:51 |
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| jrayhawk | so apparently the modern numbers for typical responders are, like, 25 percent exogenous but there's some shutoff mechanism for the receptor | 18:13 |
| jrayhawk | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20683785 | 18:15 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e1562540b2561c03ad6ecce85535e92.txt | 18:15 |
| jrayhawk | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11883-010-0130-7 | 18:15 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/14202c1cfed49bfcbe1aab9f20b35d14.txt | 18:15 |
| jrayhawk | paperbot: http://journals.ohiolink.edu/ejc/article.cgi?issn=15233804&issue=v12i0006&article=377_rdcrdtesalo3 | 18:16 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f1f6e913fe7608fb49f1e124084ea348.txt | 18:17 |
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| jrayhawk | beeeeh | 18:17 |
| jrayhawk | science is hard | 18:17 |
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| panax | i need to get my HDL up | 18:21 |
| panax | don't want niacin though | 18:22 |
| ParahSail1n | eat animal fat | 18:22 |
| panax | the literature seems to indicate i really need to minimize cholesterol | 18:23 |
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| ParahSail1n | you mean you want to minimize the vldl thats going to the wrong places? | 18:25 |
| panax | thoughts on cholesterol vs alzheimer's | 18:26 |
| panax | ? | 18:26 |
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| JayDugger | Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons: Military effectiveness and collateral effects (http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0510071) | 18:44 |
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| ParahSail1n | alzheimers seems to be cholesterol deficiency | 18:56 |
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| kanzure | where did eleitl go? | 19:29 |
| kanzure | 4 TB hdd going for $180 http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Desktop-External-STCA4000100/dp/B00829THLE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1361379018&sr=8-2&keywords=4tb+drive | 19:31 |
| kanzure | and $180 (with $20 discount) on costco http://www.costco.com/.product.695080.html4 | 19:32 |
| kanzure | oops i mean http://www.costco.com/.product.695080.html | 19:32 |
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| sylph_mako | ParahSail1n, I was going to message the mods of /r/objectivism to say that the faq it links to is disabled or inaccessible. Then I realized the mods are you. So that. | 19:44 |
| ParahSail1n | oh, oops | 19:44 |
| ParahSail1n | ok fixed | 19:45 |
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| ParahSail1n | did i link r/Objectivism here, or wild coincidence? | 19:46 |
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| sylph_mako | Coincidence. Insofar as a transhumanist arriving at Objectivism is coincidental, but I feel that it is not. | 19:50 |
| cpopell | Hrm. | 19:53 |
| cpopell | Do I go for the 4tb drive or not. | 19:53 |
| ParahSail1n | too many ip monopolists on r/O | 19:54 |
| ParahSail1n | i guess thats also to be expected given that AR shilled for ip too | 19:54 |
| cpopell | believed in =/= shilled for | 19:55 |
| sylph_mako | Intellectual Property? | 19:55 |
| ParahSail1n | i say shilled for because it is motivated cognition for an author living off of ip monopoly to need to rationalize it | 19:58 |
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| Cat4D | is there any JS ontology construction or visualization tool? | 20:18 |
| kanzure | ParahSail1n: you linked to it once. | 20:21 |
| kanzure | "My name is Sergio Longoria and I am a Talent Acquisition Sourcing Specialist with Thomson Reuters. I came across your information online ..." | 20:23 |
| kanzure | ha ha ha :shark: | 20:23 |
| kanzure | to be fair, he probably just mass emailed that | 20:24 |
| kanzure | "of *course* web of knowledge is safe with me on the job, sure.." | 20:25 |
| kanzure | .. or endnote. | 20:25 |
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| sylph_mako | Hang on. ParahSail1n, you link to the TVTropes article on Objectivism. I was once struck with a vision of a curated compendium of all conceived concepts, and it looked kinda like TVTropes, without the emphasis on fiction. | 20:29 |
| sylph_mako | But, the fact that there's an extensive article here on Objectivism suggests that the place is open to all kinds of concepts? | 20:30 |
| ParahSail1n | u/studiodekadent wrote most of that tvtropes page | 20:30 |
| ParahSail1n | and yeah, i guess tvtropes allows all kinds of content | 20:31 |
| klafka | so much reddit going on in here | 20:31 |
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| kanzure | here's the fbi's response they mailed me: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/fbi/foipa/response.html | 20:43 |
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| ParahSail1n | what were you trying to foia | 20:45 |
| kanzure | my own records | 20:45 |
| kanzure | the fbi mailed me this letter a few days ago saying 404 file not found | 20:45 |
| ParahSail1n | cool | 20:46 |
| kanzure | but jrayhawk is saying that they are lying, because others receive results (like previous requests that were made) while i have not received anything at all. | 20:46 |
| ParahSail1n | i guess the only way to be sure is to fake your death | 20:47 |
| kanzure | agreed | 20:47 |
| ParahSail1n | homeless person, corrupt dentist, money | 20:47 |
| mutagen | hey | 20:50 |
| mutagen | dont talk shit bout homeless | 20:50 |
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| mutagen | most of them are vets | 20:50 |
| @kanzure | mutagen: go away | 20:50 |
| mutagen | kanzure, | 20:50 |
| mutagen | what | 20:50 |
| mutagen | i promis if i ever get the chance to beat you to death with a baseball bat i will, but this is irc | 20:54 |
| mutagen | and nothing matters | 20:54 |
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| @kanzure | that's not okay with me. | 20:56 |
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| @kanzure | this particular exemption is rather broad: | 21:01 |
| @kanzure | "(k)(2) investigatory material compiled for law enforcement purposes, other than criminal, which did not result in loss of a right, benefit or privilege under Federal programs, or which would identify a source" | 21:01 |
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| ParahSail1n | welcome to the american regime where everything is made up and the points dont matter? | 21:07 |
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| @kanzure | hahaha yes teamfourstar irc. | 23:33 |
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| strangewarp | wow. that is an unusually foreboding FOIA Request response | 23:51 |
| @kanzure | huh? is it different from their standard response? | 23:53 |
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