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| strangewarp | Oh wait, that /is/ their standard response? Hmm. Foreboding downgraded to wack. | 00:02 |
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| @kanzure | i don't know if it's their standard or not | 00:03 |
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| @kanzure | darkwinter: hello | 00:48 |
| darkwinter | Hello! | 00:49 |
| @kanzure | what brings you here? | 00:49 |
| darkwinter | A friend that I was talking to earlyer about cyberpunk culture | 00:50 |
| darkwinter | and he suggested I come here! | 00:50 |
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| @kanzure | JayDugger: you could use emokit with your new toy. | 00:57 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/9541/30232/01389115.pdf?arnumber=1389115 | 03:14 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b2b845ef432ceccbb177eaeddd6cfbd4.pdf | 03:14 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5165869 | 07:10 |
| superkuh | paperbo... oh. | 07:12 |
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| @kanzure | superkuh: sorry about that | 08:15 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5165869 | 08:17 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a03a62027ef4dda448b459a96669cd36.pdf | 08:17 |
| superkuh | I managed to find related copy, but this one does have better detail on the output connector construction. >10 Ghz equal power splitters for low wattages are fantastically more expensive than they should be. They're just PCB with connectors but sell for hundreds of dollars. | 08:25 |
| ThomasEgi | 10ghz pcb? in that case you need special pcb substrates (keramics). and you need stuff like well defined trace profiles. so in some cases you need to actually mill the edges. | 08:45 |
| ThomasEgi | HF stuff is more tricky than it looks. also count in the development costs | 08:45 |
| superkuh | I didn't know about the trace profiles. For a 3 cm wave the traces edge roughness will matter? | 09:07 |
| superkuh | Oh. It is just a microstrip thing. If the width varies the impedance does. Not relating to wavelength of the signal. | 09:10 |
| superkuh | I have a lot to learn still. | 09:10 |
| ThomasEgi | yeah. HF tech is pretty crazy. it's not like the regular wires you are used to. | 09:11 |
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| @kanzure | anyone use bookfi? | 10:35 |
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| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.pnas.org/content/108/suppl.3/15565.short | 10:58 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Searching%20for%20simplicity%20in%20the%20analysis%20of%20neurons%20and%20behavior.pdf | 10:58 |
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| nmz787 | http://defcad.org/ | 12:39 |
| nmz787 | "Welcome to DEFCAD, operated by Defense Distributed. This site is a makeshift response to Makerbot Industries' decision to censor files uploaded in good faith at Thingiverse, specifically firearms-related files. We are hosting as many of the pulled files as we can find." | 12:39 |
| eudoxia | posting that link makes you an Associated Force under Section 3.b.1 of the PATRIOT Act | 12:39 |
| eudoxia | please stand upright and advise people around you to run to a safe distance while we dispatch a drone to your location | 12:40 |
| nmz787 | eudoxia: is that true? | 12:41 |
| eudoxia | I don't think so | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | whew | 12:41 |
| eudoxia | I'm going to gitmo for making that joke anyways | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | i'm not sure how much/little free speech we have left | 12:41 |
| eudoxia | i wonder what will happen when someone leaks the blueprints for heavy artillery to DEFCAD | 12:42 |
| nmz787 | oOOO | 12:43 |
| eudoxia | then somebody turns them into an skdb package, hahahaah | 12:43 |
| nmz787 | "Print time is wholly dependent of the printer, software, layer height, infill, etc. Mine took 32 hours with full infill at 0.010" layers. Price-wise, if you use Makerbot filament, you're looking at around $7-$8 for a printed lower (and perhaps half that if you use bargain basement filament)." | 12:44 |
| sseehh_ | http://americannationalmilitia.com/texas-senator-on-our-side/ | 12:44 |
| nmz787 | So what happens if you drive to a city with a gun ban? | 12:47 |
| nmz787 | is there a city gun check? | 12:47 |
| nmz787 | like in the old western days | 12:47 |
| eudoxia | ignore of the law et cetera | 12:47 |
| nmz787 | like a coat room | 12:47 |
| nmz787 | why can't i find this info? | 12:48 |
| nmz787 | just talked to the chicago police, they don't have border gun deposits/check-ins | 12:53 |
| nmz787 | lame | 12:53 |
| klafka | kanzure: or anyone would you say that breaks are in general bad to use in python? | 12:57 |
| ParahSailin | python is for rapid prototyping, so no | 12:58 |
| klafka | the general case against breaks is that something in a break should probably be handled in an exception right? | 13:01 |
| @kanzure | i tend to use breaks in python when i'm writing parsers | 13:02 |
| @kanzure | the real way to write parsers is with something other than a for loop, like with a grammar. | 13:03 |
| klafka | yeah this is a parser | 13:03 |
| @kanzure | well, see if you want to use pyparsing. | 13:03 |
| klafka | and basically i want to break and exclude a line if it has a field that has an empty string in it | 13:03 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: what is dreamweaver? | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | pure evil | 13:04 |
| klafka | hahahah | 13:04 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: could a user easily add a script to it? | 13:04 |
| klafka | yes | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | it's a wysiwyg web editor | 13:04 |
| nmz787 | like a js | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | probably.. but why wouldn't you just write javascript yourself? | 13:04 |
| * eudoxia still kind of likes Seamonkey's composer | 13:04 | |
| nmz787 | hmm, does it tell you what div id you | 13:04 |
| nmz787 | 're in | 13:04 |
| nmz787 | or does it allow adding ids? | 13:04 |
| @kanzure | i haven't used dreamweaver since 2001 | 13:04 |
| nmz787 | yeah i think that's when i first and last heard about it | 13:05 |
| @kanzure | i really don't think you should use it. it's like a supped up version of frontpage. | 13:05 |
| nmz787 | i'm not | 13:05 |
| @kanzure | why not just edit the html yourself and find the div you want? | 13:05 |
| nmz787 | just saw a friend using it, she's not a computer literate person | 13:05 |
| klafka | yeah it's WYSIWIG | 13:05 |
| klafka | yeah it's WYSIWYG | 13:05 |
| klafka | rather | 13:05 |
| klafka | but what you don't see is terrible | 13:06 |
| nmz787 | she posted something on facebook like 'how can i copy this page's effect on my site, i use dreamweaver' | 13:06 |
| nmz787 | and someone responded about ajax, and she was like 'i'm in over my head' | 13:06 |
| @kanzure | basic css transitions and other effects are probably tricky in dreamweaver | 13:06 |
| ParahSailin | Parsec | 13:08 |
| @kanzure | oh scipy 2013 is in austin. damn i guess i'll have to go. | 13:10 |
| ParahSailin | shit i guess i should submit an abstract of some crap | 13:14 |
| @kanzure | we could coauthor some bullshit if you want | 13:14 |
| @kanzure | nanoengineer? | 13:14 |
| ParahSailin | i was just grepping my scripts dir for some stuff that imports scipy, but nothing terribly useful | 13:15 |
| @kanzure | i don't think you have to use scipy itself | 13:16 |
| ParahSailin | does nanoengineer do much of use? | 13:18 |
| @kanzure | uhhh | 13:18 |
| eudoxia | well it's pretty unique | 13:19 |
| @kanzure | well. | 13:19 |
| @kanzure | there's supposed to be some molecular dynamics simulation support. but mostly it's useful for constructing pdb models and the nanostructure library it has. | 13:20 |
| @kanzure | and the ui that sorta works. but most of it doesn't work. heh. | 13:20 |
| ParahSailin | heh i dont have any worthwhile python stuff | 13:24 |
| ParahSailin | just text munging input and output from compiled stuff | 13:26 |
| klafka | kanzure: i'm going to pydata instead of scipy | 13:26 |
| klafka | because it's in sf <_< | 13:26 |
| @kanzure | what was the other one? pycon? | 13:31 |
| klafka | yeah pydata is part of pycon | 13:32 |
| @kanzure | madeon things http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTx3G6h2xyA | 13:47 |
| @kanzure | hm maybe that's insufficiently over the top. needs more keys. | 13:55 |
| klafka | umm that's just a novation launchpad | 13:55 |
| klafka | that's not a lot of keys really | 13:56 |
| klafka | i know people who will use that + idk an apc40 or an ipad or an mpd24 etc.. | 13:56 |
| @kanzure | why do people use all this custom equipment? is an fpga not good enough for them? | 13:56 |
| klafka | how does this relate to an fpga at all? | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | dsps, i imagine | 13:57 |
| klafka | also this is consumer equipment - that's like 150 or so | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | or midi stuff | 13:57 |
| @kanzure | i suppose you can do software-generated midi sampling libraries | 13:57 |
| klafka | they are using DAW programs | 13:57 |
| klafka | which are making use of DSP shit for sure | 13:57 |
| klafka | people use them because they are often pretty good physical analogs of the major DAW interfaces so they make a natural extension to people to play live electronic music | 13:58 |
| @kanzure | but it's because they don't know how to use fpgas? or what's going on here? | 14:00 |
| klafka | i mean an fpga would more efficiently handle DSP but it's not an interface device | 14:00 |
| @kanzure | interface? | 14:01 |
| klafka | they are using that device to dynamically play samples and add effects on those samples | 14:01 |
| klafka | like they have a bunch of wav fils that are being triggered to play by the buttons as well as potentially effects that affect one or more of those wav files | 14:02 |
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| ParahSailin | how good is openCV these days | 14:17 |
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| @kanzure | i think brownies or chris_99 have both used it within the past month | 14:29 |
| ParahSailin | i'd like to have a machine train animals by watching them and controling remote shock collars | 14:37 |
| NeuroWinter | thats very non vegan | 14:37 |
| ParahSailin | inorite | 14:38 |
| NeuroWinter | for the sake of science! | 14:38 |
| ParahSailin | i'd probably be doing it with chickens, possibly a larger poultry | 14:39 |
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| NeuroWinter | quales? | 14:39 |
| ParahSailin | i dunno about that fancy | 14:39 |
| sheena1 | whats the goal? | 14:39 |
| ParahSailin | probably ducks, geese, or turkeys would be the other likely options | 14:40 |
| ParahSailin | train them aversion to feeding on certain plants but not others | 14:40 |
| sheena1 | interesting. food aversion is generally something animals have hardwired, shouldn't need an external aversive like shock if you can just make sure they associate the undesireable plant with getting sick afterwards | 14:42 |
| ParahSailin | well i want them to be averse to eating certain foods so that they will eat weeds and not crops | 14:42 |
| sheena1 | i understand the goal | 14:45 |
| sheena1 | but animals already have a built in mechanism for food aversion | 14:45 |
| sheena1 | eat this thing, makes me sick, never eat it again | 14:45 |
| sheena1 | i dont know how many repetitions you'd need to make it a life long learning.. the reason we grow the crops we do is because they're more nutrient dense, so animals are going to tend to WANT to eat those more than weeds | 14:46 |
| sheena1 | you'd also want to make sure they're getting fed some sort of nutrionally complete feed so tehy don't all die of malnutrition fromeating weeds | 14:46 |
| ParahSailin | i think the issue of the operant conditioning is probably pretty certain | 14:47 |
| sheena1 | hm? | 14:47 |
| ParahSailin | electric shocks should condition animals food aversion | 14:48 |
| sheena1 | have you read the misbehaviour of organisms/ | 14:48 |
| sheena1 | right. they should. i'm just saying you shouldn't need to do nearly that much work | 14:48 |
| ParahSailin | how could you do it more easily? | 14:50 |
| sheena1 | by using the instincts that animals possess to not eat things that make them sick | 14:50 |
| sheena1 | just feed htem the food you want the aversion to and make them sick afterwards | 14:50 |
| sheena1 | i know this is extremely common with pet dogs and cats. I can't imagine birds are immune. | 14:51 |
| ParahSailin | i imagine the edible crops taste better to chickens as well | 14:51 |
| sheena1 | http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4085934?uid=3737720&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101685105233 | 14:53 |
| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4085934?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101685109853 | 14:53 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/876c34be905386d845d3b781e554a23b.txt | 14:53 |
| @kanzure | paperbot i command you to work | 14:53 |
| sheena1 | https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalcommons.unl.edu%2Fcgi%2Fviewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1010%26context%3Dnwrcrepellants&ei=-KQmUavaO-eWjAL7tYGQAg&usg=AFQjCNG03zUHa9rbsppKIxSfrCuYqb4kFg&sig2=n1pw3rzIit68l16280xDiA | 14:53 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfplus/4085934.pdf | 14:54 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/624f5c93df2e88011aea8a6ee4ac992e.txt | 14:54 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfplus/4085934.pdf?acceptTC=true | 14:54 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bb81064ac338e9fc34f276d52b9a47a8.pdf | 14:54 |
| @kanzure | there you go | 14:54 |
| @kanzure | fucking jstor | 14:54 |
| ParahSailin | watermarked | 14:55 |
| @kanzure | wtf pdfparanoia is supposed to catch jstor watermarks | 14:55 |
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| sheena2 | sorry, my laptop died. did you get the second link? | 14:56 |
| @kanzure | yes. the jstor link was downloaded to http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bb81064ac338e9fc34f276d52b9a47a8.pdf | 14:56 |
| sheena2 | the second one is specific to wild birds, i think, but same idea | 14:57 |
| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1010&context=nwrcrepellants | 14:57 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6a52f7902bb94906f57738a8832f0466.pdf | 14:57 |
| sheena2 | happy to discuss further, ParahSailin if you like. im not in this room much, but you can contact me by email if you like (licketysit@gmail.com) | 14:59 |
| ParahSailin | ok | 14:59 |
| sheena2 | I've spent most of my life working with behaviour modification of dogs and other animals, have worked some with chickens, though not on this topic. I sort of live and breathe learning theory ;) | 15:00 |
| ParahSailin | ah i see | 15:00 |
| sheena2 | learned food aversion is VERY common in cats, and becomes a medical problem quite quickly | 15:00 |
| klafka | really? | 15:00 |
| klafka | what is learned food aversion exactly? | 15:00 |
| sheena2 | if a cat is sick, we often will recommend the cat eat somethign different than usual while sick so that they don't learn to avoid their regular food | 15:00 |
| ParahSailin | do you think it would be hard to train chickens to avoid the good plants? | 15:00 |
| klafka | aah I see | 15:00 |
| sheena2 | ever gone out for dinner someplace the night you got the stomach flu, and then never wanted to go back? | 15:01 |
| sheena2 | thats learned food aversion | 15:01 |
| klafka | got it | 15:01 |
| klafka | how trainable are cats like in the dog training sense | 15:01 |
| sheena2 | very much | 15:01 |
| sheena2 | i think it would be easy enough to traint he chickens, ParahSailin | 15:01 |
| ParahSailin | i trained a cat to sit, jump, and stand on command | 15:01 |
| klafka | like training them to not spray or perform certain behaviors | 15:01 |
| klafka | ParahSailin: really? | 15:01 |
| sheena2 | my concern is that maintaining the bahaviour may be difficult | 15:01 |
| klafka | how ParahSailin? | 15:02 |
| ParahSailin | but only when i had food right then and the cat was ravenously hungry | 15:02 |
| klafka | aah | 15:02 |
| ParahSailin | it was a neighbor cat | 15:02 |
| ParahSailin | the owner only fed her kibbles | 15:02 |
| ParahSailin | i was the source for raw meat scraps and chicken bones | 15:02 |
| ParahSailin | sheena2: is computer vision for automating training of a flock of chickens overkill, ie, would there be an easier way? | 15:03 |
| klafka | aren't chicken bones really bad for pets? | 15:03 |
| klafka | or any cooked bone for that matter | 15:03 |
| sheena2 | ParahSailin, you need to check out the stuff that Bob Bailey is doing | 15:03 |
| sheena2 | klafka: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5dIB2oF6sQ&playnext=1&list=PLxDsf3TdtMJGucTSUwA7kSx07Tii85-hU&feature=results_video | 15:03 |
| sheena2 | oh that was ugly. sorry | 15:03 |
| ParahSailin | i wouldnt feed a cooked chicken bone to a dog | 15:04 |
| sheena2 | look up the IQ Zoo.. its tough to findn good info on. I have a documentary video that may be very interesting to you, I'd be willing to share via email or something. | 15:04 |
| ParahSailin | but cats are very fastidious eaters | 15:04 |
| sheena2 | i wouldnt feed a cooked chicken bone to a cat, either, but chewing the meat and grissle off is fine.. and seems to be all most cats want to do | 15:04 |
| ParahSailin | my goats eat chicken and duck bones sometimes | 15:05 |
| klafka | aah cool | 15:05 |
| klafka | yeah that'd be interesting | 15:05 |
| ParahSailin | this cat crunched the ends of the bones to get some marrow out | 15:05 |
| ParahSailin | i normally eat the bones when im eating chicken or duck because its annoying to spit them out | 15:06 |
| klafka | wow isn't that also a choking hazard? | 15:06 |
| ParahSailin | i chew | 15:06 |
| klafka | ah | 15:06 |
| ParahSailin | i imagine a lot of vets and doctors would not approve | 15:08 |
| ParahSailin | of many things i do | 15:08 |
| sheena2 | goats are ruminants, can tolerate lots of things dogs or cats cant as easily. doesn't mean chewed up bones are a problem, just that they need to be chewed to be safe. and not all animals, but especially dogs, get that! :) | 15:09 |
| sheena2 | there are some good dog food recipes that involve cooking a whole chicken or turkey in some water until the bones are soft enough to mashwith a potato masher | 15:10 |
| sheena2 | mush it up and feed | 15:10 |
| sheena2 | on topic, often used for dogs who have learned food aversions to commercial foods! | 15:10 |
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| ParahSailin | raw chicken is best for dogs | 15:10 |
| sheena2 | im off to try and convince 4 border collies, a bc mix, a westie and a maliinois that they're far better to sleep this afternoon than destroy the house. i'll pop back in tonight sometime if i remember. I'm the worst IRC user though. All the dogs listed above minus the westie are raw fed a diet that includes, among other things, raw chicken. the westie is allergic to a few proteins (and isn't my dog) so he eats some expensive kibble | 15:11 |
| ParahSailin | ah, later | 15:12 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=14bdf238 Bryan Bishop: jstor | 15:13 |
| gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 15:13 |
| paperbot | gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-21 23:13:38) | 15:13 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4085934?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101685109853 | 15:14 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/be66594e50123898daf0f5ccecea34e2.txt | 15:14 |
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| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=16c7f4d4 Bryan Bishop: fix jstor pdf urls | 15:32 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=456b8ca7 Bryan Bishop: fix jstor title determination | 15:32 |
| gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 15:32 |
| paperbot | SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 225) | 15:32 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=04644364 Bryan Bishop: fix jstor title determination | 15:32 |
| gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 15:32 |
| paperbot | IndentationError: unexpected unindent (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 225) | 15:32 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: what happened? ikiwiki has put something with a merge state into /srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py | 15:33 |
| @kanzure | jrayhawk: i am seeing things like "<<<<<<< HEAD" | 15:34 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: reload papers | 15:34 |
| paperbot | kanzure: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-21 23:34:28) | 15:34 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4085934?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101685109853 | 15:34 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Observational%20Learning%20of%20Food%20Aversions%20in%20Red-Winged%20Blackbirds%20%28Agelaius%20phoeniceus%29.pdf | 15:34 |
| @kanzure | hooray | 15:34 |
| jrayhawk | Huh, I thought it was supposed to have a UI for that. | 15:34 |
| @kanzure | what is? | 15:35 |
| jrayhawk | Ikiwiki. | 15:35 |
| @kanzure | maybe only through the web? | 15:35 |
| @kanzure | anyway, that's what i get for trying to cover up my terrible mistakes with -f. | 15:35 |
| jrayhawk | wait what | 15:36 |
| jrayhawk | what were you doing with -f | 15:36 |
| @kanzure | i ammended a commit and pushed because i wanted to cover up my syntax error and murder everyone who knew of it | 15:37 |
| jrayhawk | oh, yeah, don't do that. | 15:37 |
| jrayhawk | rebuildrepo paperbot will clean that up | 15:37 |
| @kanzure | i manually fixed the merge state | 15:38 |
| @kanzure | it would be nice if ikiwiki would complain maybe | 15:38 |
| jrayhawk | I bet it did. | 15:38 |
| @kanzure | remote: 'git merge origin/master' failed: at /usr/share/perl5/IkiWiki/Plugin/git.pm line 207. | 15:39 |
| @kanzure | alright then | 15:39 |
| @kanzure | paperbot really really needs someone to clean it up | 15:40 |
| @kanzure | and unit tests | 15:40 |
| jrayhawk | jrayhawk@gnusha:/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot$ git show-ref | 15:41 |
| jrayhawk | 456b8ca77ee214ae8bfb15fcc0c76a913366fac7 refs/heads/master | 15:41 |
| jrayhawk | 04644364e2990f9b35140ea2f3f70b7bbdc720ea refs/remotes/origin/master | 15:41 |
| jrayhawk | how exactly did you "manually fix" that | 15:41 |
| @kanzure | git commit --amend ? | 15:42 |
| @kanzure | oh sorry | 15:42 |
| @kanzure | i mean, i edited the file. yeah okay that was a bad idea. | 15:42 |
| jrayhawk | rebuildrepo exists to make this sort of thing easy | 15:42 |
| @kanzure | i assumed i was pushing -f to both repos | 15:43 |
| @kanzure | ok it's rebuilding. | 15:43 |
| jrayhawk | You don't have permission to write to the ikiwiki repo specifically because you are a user and users are crazy and untrustworthy. | 15:43 |
| @kanzure | i had a momentary lapse of judgement | 15:44 |
| @kanzure | s/momentary/lifelong | 15:45 |
| jrayhawk | haha | 15:45 |
| nmz787 | anyone heard of http://www.massivedynamicscorp.com/ | 15:55 |
| nmz787 | ? | 15:55 |
| @kanzure | pfft that name is way too good for a dongle manufacturer | 15:56 |
| nmz787 | i can't tell what it actually does | 15:57 |
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| nmz787 | why would i need to combine my phone and tablet | 15:57 |
| nmz787 | http://www.massivedynamicscorp.com/pdf/Telipad%20Sheet%20copy.pdf | 15:58 |
| nmz787 | oh, i guess it's in case you have multiple phones | 15:58 |
| nmz787 | "Telipad can hold 2 simm chips and | 15:59 |
| nmz787 | communicate via Bluetooth to any device!" | 15:59 |
| nmz787 | http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/factsheets/I732-016R-07.pdf | 16:01 |
| nmz787 | "Both users and Bluetooth application developers have responsibilities and opportunities to minimize the risk | 16:01 |
| nmz787 | of compromise via Bluetooth. Users should follow these best practice security guidelines: | 16:01 |
| nmz787 | Never use standard commercial Bluetooth headsets." | 16:01 |
| nmz787 | so I guess the govt has their own wireless headsets | 16:01 |
| @kanzure | taco delivery http://tacocopter.com/ | 16:02 |
| nmz787 | what about bluetooth snooping? | 16:02 |
| nmz787 | could someone start listening in on the phone conversations, etc | 16:03 |
| @kanzure | someone made a directional bluetooth snooper and hung out at some hollywood event once | 16:04 |
| ArmilusDajjal | you can pick them up form some distance iirc with the righ tequipment | 16:06 |
| @kanzure | they ended up getting funding and starting a company called lookout or appsomething | 16:06 |
| @kanzure | appthority | 16:06 |
| @kanzure | holy shit i hate this, google is highlighting terms from previous search results on my search result page | 16:08 |
| @kanzure | http://heybryan.org/shots/2013-02-21-1808-google-search-highlighting.png | 16:12 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=ANSI%2FASME+B89.4.1-1997#.USa4lqVOSSo | 16:15 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fe3aa24f8edff771949659ac903ac68c.txt | 16:15 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: yeah google is getting lamer and lamer | 16:16 |
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| @kanzure | http://blog.23andme.com/news/announcements/learn-to-use-23andme-apis-with-codecademy/ | 16:22 |
| @kanzure | wasn't aware that 23andme had a public api | 16:22 |
| @kanzure | https://api.23andme.com/ | 16:22 |
| klafka | yeah | 16:22 |
| klafka | i'm thinking of getting 23andme at some point | 16:23 |
| @kanzure | huh, ok. https://github.com/23andMe/api-example-flask | 16:23 |
| @kanzure | i guess they would probably use oauth or something to authenticate third-party apps | 16:23 |
| @kanzure | the raw data is small enough to just hand it over to third parties, really.. | 16:24 |
| klafka | well how much raw data do they give you? | 16:28 |
| @kanzure | giant csv | 16:28 |
| klafka | i mean do they only give you your genotype? | 16:29 |
| klafka | or can you get anonymized people's genotypes | 16:29 |
| klafka | heh | 16:29 |
| klafka | i'm assuming just yours? | 16:29 |
| @kanzure | i don't think their api returns other people's genotypes, no | 16:29 |
| klafka | LOL | 16:29 |
| klafka | that would be kind of funny though | 16:29 |
| @kanzure | i assume it's something like oauth | 16:29 |
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| @kanzure | hmm internet archive is rolling out some new urls, http://web.archive.org/petabox/:date | 17:13 |
| @kanzure | what is /petabox for? | 17:13 |
| strangewarp | enclosing vegans | 17:17 |
| klafka | wow http://projects.scipy.org/scipy/ticket/639 | 17:31 |
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| @kanzure | "My coffee retails for $12 a pound, but I'd be more than willing to trade a pound of coffee for like $6 (roughly what I buy it at) in [lab] supplies so that you come out on the top side." | 18:17 |
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| @kanzure | i wonder if that's an exploitable relationship, how hard is it to sell a pound of coffee | 18:18 |
| JayDugger | Is it any good? | 18:18 |
| @kanzure | no idea | 18:19 |
| JayDugger | For $12/lb retail, it costs as much as good coffee. | 18:19 |
| JayDugger | Snob coffee costs a little more, unless you buy in 5-15 pound lots. | 18:20 |
| JayDugger | But with sufficient snob appeal you can charge as much as you want. | 18:20 |
| JayDugger | $6 of lab supplies buys what? a piece of glassware? some filter paper? | 18:21 |
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| @kanzure | i am registering on the anti-doping drug tracking system thingy | 20:24 |
| @kanzure | but i have to pick a sport | 20:24 |
| @kanzure | which sport should i apply for? | 20:24 |
| yashgaroth | you seem to have strong opinions on lifeguarding, go with your passion | 20:24 |
| @kanzure | http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/ADAMS/Training_User_Guides/ADAMS_Codes_for_Sport_Discipline_Country_Region.pdf | 20:27 |
| @kanzure | powerboating? | 20:27 |
| yashgaroth | sitting volleyball sounds fun | 20:29 |
| @kanzure | ah.. "electronic sports". | 20:29 |
| @kanzure | oh good find | 20:30 |
| yashgaroth | demand a typing speed league, then win it while on drugs; free oprah interview | 20:30 |
| @kanzure | i think that's "electronic sports". or maybe only starcraft counts? | 20:31 |
| @kanzure | please let galaga count | 20:31 |
| yashgaroth | it's all LoL now apparently | 20:31 |
| @kanzure | hm? | 20:31 |
| yashgaroth | league of legends | 20:31 |
| yashgaroth | is the new competitive esport du jour, as it were | 20:32 |
| @kanzure | hope this works. | 20:34 |
| yashgaroth | underwater orienteering | 20:36 |
| nmz787 | how do i grep recursively? | 20:39 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: maidstone coffee in rochester NY charges customers ~$6 per pound and they roast for all the Tim Hortons in U.S.A. | 20:40 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: that's to the public by single lb | 20:40 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: this is the last coffee I bought http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002GWFA1Y/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1 | 20:41 |
| nmz787 | $7.31/lb | 20:41 |
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| @kanzure | nmz787: grep -r | 20:51 |
| @kanzure | aww the email failed. how lame is that. | 20:51 |
| @kanzure | "SMTP module(domain [68.115.195.195]) reports: No such recipient" | 20:52 |
| @kanzure | what sort of sketchy sketchness is this | 20:52 |
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| Viper168 | what was that about | 21:09 |
| @kanzure | disconnects | 21:09 |
| Viper168 | arlier yeah | 21:09 |
| Viper168 | *earlier | 21:09 |
| Viper168 | I've had it fixed for a while now | 21:09 |
| @kanzure | http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13718/UCI-claims-WADA-Code-prevents-it-from-accepting-WADAs-request-for-witness-amnesty.aspx | 21:11 |
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| sheena3 | Test | 22:21 |
| sheena1 | woo | 22:21 |
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