2013-02-27.log

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@kanzurehttp://circuithub.com/ seems to still be existing00:57
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archelsnmz787: all wifi can be jammed01:29
archelsany wireless communication can be jammed01:30
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@kanzureyou guys are boring12:16
klafkayou are12:16
klafkaso i found a bug in scipy.weave.inline's tutorial that has been there since like 200212:17
@kanzureare you going to fix it?12:17
klafkafernando perez posted about it in 2002 heh12:17
klafkayeah i think so12:17
klafkaidk how to do this though12:20
klafkado i need to make a ticket for it and then fix it and then submit it12:20
@kanzureuse the existing ticket.12:21
klafkai'm not sure if there is one12:22
@kanzureif there's no existing ticket, then open a new ticket and report it thoroughly.12:22
klafkaok12:22
@kanzurealso, you could poke your head into #scipy and yell at people.12:22
* klafka will do this tonight12:22
@kanzurebe sure to demand that they do work for you for free.12:22
klafkai asked in scipy - got crickets12:22
klafkahahaha12:22
klafkahttp://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/scipy-dev/2002-March/000640.html12:22
@kanzureah well you probably forgot to do that last step12:22
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nmz787archels: so it wouldn't be smart to use a WiFi for the transport for a H264 security video camera then...12:45
nmz787i don't think I or my dad's house would ever get attacked by someone who knew how to jame wifi... but you never know I guess12:45
nmz787kanzure: does this look worth using http://www.openni.org12:51
@kanzurehmm https://github.com/OpenNI/OpenNI212:53
@kanzurelooks ok i guess https://github.com/OpenNI/OpenNI2/tree/master/Source/Core12:54
archelsnmz787: the more unconventional, the better. but like I said, anything can be jammed13:14
archelsany chance of a wired connection?13:15
archelsyou can make that pretty rugged, even to the point of being fairly EMP-proof13:16
nmz787archels: I had just found some IR HD cameras on alibaba or aliexpress and yes they also had wired ethernet too13:23
nmz787archels: the main drawback was they look like cameras, while my dad said he wanted them to be hidden, meaning it needs a pinhole instead of lenses13:23
nmz787they looked nice though, said ~$70 per camera, H264 out, wifi wired, pan tilt, IR lights13:24
archelsah, well, what are the odds of a burglar with an IQ of 70 taking the trouble to jam your wifi?13:30
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ThomasEgihow bout simply having a wifi named "surveillance server"13:37
ThomasEgiin case some burglar with an iq of 70 tries to check his fb account on his tablet via the home's wifi^13:38
ThomasEgimost cameras can be easily modified by simply removing the IR/UV filter in front of the sensor.13:39
* archels wonders what the term 'dynamical slowing' actually means13:44
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streetyarchels: another seemingly nonsensical  term I came across recently - polydispersity16:13
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nsh.wik polydispersity17:37
yoleaux"In physical and organic chemistry, the dispersity is a measure of the heterogeneity of sizes of molecules or particles in a mixture. A collection of objects is called monodisperse or uniform if the objects have the same size, shape, or mass." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydispersity17:37
nshstreety, i can see that being an important measure in certain mechanical circumstances17:37
nshthere are very counter-intuitive results in shaking/mixing scenarios that we don't have particularly good mathematical models for17:38
nshs/very/some/17:38
streetynsh, that's a redirection to dispersity, which makes sense. It's the poly bit that I don't get - seems redundant17:40
nshmmm17:41
nshyeah, kinda17:41
streetyadded to which "The PDI has a value equal to or greater than 1, but as the polymer  chains approach uniform chain length, the PDI approaches unity (1)." and yet the article I was reviewing gave PDI values less than one. weird17:43
streetyit was a fairly poor article overall though so I probably shouldn't be too surprised17:44
ParahSailin_http://nullwords.wordpress.com/2013/02/27/gaddag-data-structure/ is basically the data structure we use for sequence alignment17:44
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nmz787kanzure: weren't you complaining about .STL?18:18
@kanzurei am always complaining about people using stl files18:18
@kanzureor, rather, about people storing them for long-term use.18:18
@kanzure(they are okay intermedaries when you are at the last step and sending data to your printer, but they are not a good idea if you ever plan to revisit the object, or share it with someone, etc.)18:19
@kanzure*intermediaries18:19
nmz787ParahSailin_: that link doesn't seem to work18:22
nmz787ParahSailin_: ahh got it18:22
nmz787the c didn't copy past18:22
nmz787ahh18:22
nmz787ok18:22
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@kanzurehmm so this is what the singularity institute people have been up to? http://www.metamed.com/20:14
@kanzurevassar, tom, kevin20:15
@kanzurehttp://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=529585820:16
klafkakanzure:  do you think the singularity institute people do good work20:19
@kanzureno, but i think they could if they bothered to.20:20
klafkaLOL20:20
@kanzureinstead of writing papers about the inevitability of ai doom, maybe they could be doing things like poking at neural tissue cultures or making open source hardware/software20:21
klafkaah another group of people who talk but don'tdo20:22
@kanzurethey do things.. just, things that i disagree with.20:22
yashgarothwell, we do need to have some sort of plan for when the evil strong AI teams up with the von neumann berserkers to destroy us20:23
@kanzureyashgaroth: their argument is that no plan will help you20:23
@kanzurein that situation20:23
yashgaroththat's no fun20:23
klafkaLOL20:23
nmz787my soda has polyethylene glycol in it20:26
klafkaiwonder for what20:29
klafkaanti-foaming agent20:30
klafkadude scipy's documentation is sobad that their attempt to improve  documentation is out of date20:31
klafkaDocumentation is currently our weakest area, but we are working on it as part of the Documentation Marathon 2008+. The marathon addresses some of the current shortcomings:20:31
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heathpaperbot: Low Cost UV Laser Direct Write Photolithography System for Rapid Prototyping of Microsystems21:38
@kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/Versatile%20stepper%20based%20maskless%20microlithography%20using%20a%20liquid%20crystal%20display%20for%20direct%20write%20of%20binary%20and%20multilevel%20microstructures.pdf21:39
@kanzurepaperbot: http://ma.ecsdl.org/content/MA2012-02/59/3990.short21:40
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Low%20Cost%20UV%20Laser%20Direct%20Write%20Photolithography%20System%20for%20Rapid%20Prototyping%20of%20Microsystems.pdf21:40
heaththat's an abstract21:40
heathfirst one isn't the paper21:41
heathoh it is21:42
* heath thanks kanzure and sleeps21:42
@kanzureif that isn't it we can do:21:43
@kanzurepaperbot: http://ma.ecsdl.org/content/MA2012-02/59/3990.full.pdf21:43
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/933574fadfa06a221516c32df2654d1a.pdf21:43
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