2013-03-14.log

--- Log opened Thu Mar 14 00:00:27 2013
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strangewarphmm00:38
strangewarpSo this guy I was talking about a couple weeks ago has now been profiled by Vice00:38
strangewarphttp://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rob-rhinehart-no-longer-requires-food00:38
strangewarpThe comments on everything related to him are still completely stupid, because regular people still don't have transhumanism as a distinct concept00:41
strangewarpI'm probably going to try out a Soylent regimen in a few months00:41
sylph_makobadassed00:43
kanzurei don't think the comments are stupid, a lot of people are expressing genuine interest in whether or not we know enough about food and nutrition: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=536977800:44
kanzure"I've been researching nutrition for 5 years and read hundreds of papers on PubMed and, involved with QS (quantified self) and life extension movements, track my bloodwork in Google Spreadsheets etc."00:46
kanzure100s of papers.. that's pathetic for 5 years. what the fuck is wrong with people.00:46
strangewarpAh, I was talking about the naive comments. The ycombinator comments are interesting...00:48
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strangewarpSeeing some precautionary principle in that thread, though.00:50
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strangewarpOnce Colorado gets weedshops, I'm going to see how sativa shatter oil works for me. Apparently, for some folks, that style of cannabis product is as effective for productivity as Adderall.00:57
nshshatter oil?01:00
strangewarpalso known as wax, or dabbing. An ultra-concentrated form of cannabis that's moked in a somewhat different way.01:01
strangewarp*smoked01:01
kanzurehow do you smoke wax? just burn it?01:01
nshi suppose you impregnate some medium with it01:02
strangewarpYou put a small piece of it onto a superheated nail in a certain kind of pipe, and take it all in one breath.01:02
strangewarpI haven't done it myself yet, so my knowledge is only second-hand.01:02
* nsh nods01:03
strangewarpFrom what I hear, if you want productivity, you'll want a sativa-based wax, with a THC:cannabinol ratio of >20 : <1. Or else it will just get you high like regular stuff.01:06
strangewarpNote: For a plurality of people who try sativa stuff, it just makes them really paranoid. Others get productive with it though, which is why I'm interested in trying it.01:09
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strangewarpWax is getting kind of bad PR, since the extraction process requires butane, and a couple stoners have burned themselves by doing it wrong.. so I'm hoping the legislative committee figuring out Colorado's weedlaws doesn't single it out as something bad. That would be counterproductive anyway, since stopping weedshops from selling shatter oil would just prompt more hippies to blow themselves01:13
strangewarpup anyway.01:13
strangewarp(The butane is all removed before the product is finished and ready to smoke, to clarify)01:14
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@fennwhy not just vacuum distill it01:34
@fennyou could use a glass fractionation column if you are trying to purify out the THC01:35
@fennor just get a prescription for ritalin01:36
strangewarphmm.. I'll google on that subject to see whether anyone's brought it up.. I don't know enough chemistry to speak on it myself01:36
strangewarpHm, some weed people see to be talking about vacuum distillation, but they seem hesitant to say what they'd be using it for, for obvious reasons. I'm an outsider to that community so I can't say for certain, but I think they use that process to make plain hash oil, which is only about 1/2 to 2/3 as potent as shatter oil, and can't be smoked as easily (I think).01:41
strangewarp*seem to be01:42
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eleitl_paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/001448869090137H06:37
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paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Cryopreservation%20of%20human%20brain%20tissue.pdf06:37
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JayDuggerGood morning, everyone.07:14
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chidopaperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2344866807:37
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8689e3f4b9a647d22b903e9c5fc1a2ed.txt07:37
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archelshmz. any tips on extracing (x,y) data from a scanned-in image?08:56
ParahSailinlike intensity of pixel x,y in the r, g and b domain?08:57
eleitl_python image library something?08:59
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archelshttp://turingbirds.com/temp/dataconv.png08:59
ParahSailinarchels: oh09:00
eleitlthat shit is overlapping. you'll probably to mantually digitize it.09:01
archelseleitl: I'm okay with clicking once on each data point09:01
archelsbut I need some sort of program which gives me an (x,y) value for each click09:02
eleitloh, so you need a program with XY crosshairs09:02
archelsyup09:02
archelsmaybe project it behind a log-log plot in MATLAB with the axes set up right09:02
archelsthis being loglog does not make things easier :(09:03
eleitlindeed09:04
ParahSailinarchels: open a paint window, turn the transparency to 50%, put the window over image to trace09:04
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eudoxiaarchels: you could set a pixel to red or some color with Paint09:07
eudoxiaand then extract the coordinates for all red pixels09:07
archelshmm. x_real = 10^(x_pixel / constant)09:09
archelsthat could work09:09
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ParahSailinis the person who created that chart alive?09:17
archelshaha, I don't know. You propose I just ask him?09:18
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ParahSailinyes09:22
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nmz787underscor was from rit11:41
nmz787huh11:41
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DonnchaCpaperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cber.19090420160/pdf12:18
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/962685d182ca60ec44aa09a0b38565fc.txt12:18
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DonnchaCpaperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/adsc.200800667/pdf12:43
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/59167d1f8c694956bd64d35e49247512.txt12:44
DonnchaCpaperbot: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0193269100365693812:44
paperbotno translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/44c132bff647d85bf12149c4566a19d3.txt12:44
DonnchaCpaperbot: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?paper=CH975038112:46
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Dihalocarbene%20insertions%20into%20carbon-hydrogen%20bonds%20of%20hydrocarbons%20and%20ethers.pdf12:46
DonnchaCGreat, this is a wonderful tool. Thank you!12:47
DonnchaCpaperbot: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=CH9750381.pdf12:48
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1cf3a02ddf1a80c6cfbbc35e9613d7e1.txt12:48
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kanzureDonnchaC: hello13:14
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kanzure"We would like to get a wiki page started for East Bay DIYbio. Does anyone have experience setting up MediaWiki? There are other options but MediaWiki seems to be our best.  Any volunteers to take this on would be much appreciated"13:27
kanzure"I've gone ahead and setup a free MediaWiki instance on Heroku: https://eastbay-diybio.herokuapp.com. Feel free to create an account."13:27
kanzureaaaahhhhh. :(13:27
kanzurehttps://eastbay-diybio.herokuapp.com/13:27
kanzurehttp://eastbaydiybio.org/13:27
kanzurehttp://www.meetup.com/DIYBio_PDX/13:29
klafka??13:31
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=dbbf579f Bryan Bishop: another portland person13:31
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=0d15dc17 Bryan Bishop: link to csv of genetic modification ideas13:31
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kanzurehttps://www.microryza.com/projects/seattle-biohacker-space15:39
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kanzureah self-replication patents18:48
kanzurefreitas should get on that train before it leaves18:48
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kanzure"The roundup ready soybean is also just about out of patent. (I think it has another 6 months or so.)"18:49
kanzure"If their crops are producing unlicensed copies of themselves, shouldn't Monsanto be suing the crops?" if only18:50
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rakanzure: are you talking about the cross pollination of the patented crops? i think they are. i think Monsanto is suing or threatening to sue everyone :)18:59
kanzureok?19:07
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kanzurehttp://blog.opensourceecology.org/2013/03/the-first-open-source-hardware-documentation-jam-new-york-city19:48
kanzureoh man, "jobinterviewquicksort" http://xkcd.com/1185/20:06
kanzure> Do we have data (or estimates) on the ratio of enthusiast biohackers to20:16
kanzure> industry and also academia biohackers?20:16
kanzurewhat is an "academia biohacker". :(20:16
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jrayhawkpaperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v495/n7440/full/495172a.html21:58
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Evolutionary%20biology%3A%20Twisting%20the%20tale%20of%20human%20evolution.pdf21:58
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nmz787is there anthing like startup chile, but in russia?23:41
kanzurerusnano if you have an "in"23:42
kanzurebut they only play high stakes, no "give us your meek" crap goes into rusnano as far as i can tell23:42
kanzurenot really an incubator, probably not what you are looking for.23:42
nmz787interesting though23:43
nmz787good to know if i ever get past this stage23:43
nmz787i fond that i already have a blueberry bush planted near my driveway23:44
nmz787i bought another one yesterday23:44
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