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| @fenn | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-80934-7_15 | 11:52 |
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| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/da6a9693d3ff2079df0d35944f87db3e.txt | 11:52 |
| kanzure | Swordsman: hi | 11:54 |
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| Swordsman | hey | 12:04 |
| Swordsman | kanzure: what's up? | 12:08 |
| kanzure | what brings you this way? | 12:08 |
| Swordsman | oh | 12:08 |
| kanzure | oh, you know. software. evil science. | 12:08 |
| Swordsman | heheh | 12:08 |
| Swordsman | well | 12:08 |
| Swordsman | I'm working on some projects right now | 12:09 |
| Swordsman | ...I tend to have like, a few dozen going all the time, I switch around between them a lot, I guess | 12:10 |
| Swordsman | mostly software and computer type stuff | 12:10 |
| Swordsman | I started learning more about electronics a while back for a project I was thinking about | 12:11 |
| Swordsman | like, I was interested in integrated circuit design | 12:11 |
| Swordsman | I decided to take another look at it and I decided that I'd seriously dig into chemistry (for real this time) | 12:12 |
| Swordsman | I was looking for diy chemistry resources and found the wiki for diybio, went to the channel, and this channel was in the topic, so I figured I'd lurk here too | 12:13 |
| Swordsman | basically right now I'm looking into various methods for alternative computing | 12:16 |
| Swordsman | I'm looking at chemistry first, I want to get a good grasp on what's going on a t the lower levels | 12:18 |
| chris_99 | what type of chemistry are you looking at? | 12:19 |
| Swordsman | well, I crammed organic chemistry into my head the last 3 days or so | 12:19 |
| Swordsman | right now I'm trying to figure out if they're a way to fold a monolayer exactly in half by some chemical reaction so that the two halves overlap evenly | 12:21 |
| Swordsman | that's the main idea I'm looking at right now, anyway, new ideas keep popping into my head | 12:22 |
| Swordsman | like, I'm also wondering if it might be easier to just slide the other half over on top of it or something | 12:24 |
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| Swordsman | basically, the idea, I guess, is that I want to form a bunch of equal length polymers of various monomer sequences, bind them together into a monolayer, and then fold it up into a cube | 12:29 |
| Swordsman | at this point I'm still just trying to get a complete picture of how organic chemistry works, I guess | 12:35 |
| Swordsman | which is more chem than bio, I guess | 12:38 |
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| Swordsman | I'll probably start looking at bio stuff in a few days though, I think | 12:39 |
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| ParahSail1n | polymers always form balls | 12:50 |
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| Swordsman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_length | 12:58 |
| Swordsman | ...wouldn't this imply that if a polymer is short enough, then it should stay straight(ish)? | 12:59 |
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| Swordsman | or do you mean that they clump up, or something | 13:02 |
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| kanzure | i was sort of expecting the nodecopters to be doing maneuvers like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIkqqVr_u9U but instead i just see up/down/left/right and some tilts. | 13:06 |
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| kanzure | or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul7YboQA5OY | 13:17 |
| kanzure | "We use polynomial splines to plan trajectories between waypoints in a known environment. The waypoints are found using the RRT* algorithm. We use an efficient and numerically stable method for solving for the polynomial coefficients and compute optimal speeds in a novel way that balances speed and "gracefulness" of the trajectory. For polynomial quadrotor trajectories and RRT*, see [Mellinger, et al., '11], [Karaman & Frazzoli, '10]" | 13:17 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://ijr.sagepub.com/content/31/5/664.short | 13:22 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Trajectory%20generation%20and%20control%20for%20precise%20aggressive%20maneuvers%20with%20quadrotors.pdf | 13:22 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://arxiv.org/abs/1005.0416 | 13:22 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Incremental%20Sampling-based%20Algorithms%20for%20Optimal%20Motion%20Planning.pdf | 13:22 |
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| brownies | am i cloaked? | 16:20 |
| * brownies pokes kanzure | 16:21 | |
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| kanzure | https://github.com/nmichael/ipc-bridge | 16:55 |
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| kanzure | hooray paperbot returns | 19:47 |
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| kanzure | juul: do you live with max ogden? | 20:39 |
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| kanzure | why are they insinuating that i'm an fbi agent? | 21:50 |
| kanzure | i would like to emphasize that i am not an fbi agent nor have i ever been | 21:50 |
| kanzure | "impersonating an fbi agent" isn't exactly something i want to be charged with | 21:51 |
| kanzure | https://groups.google.com/d/msg/diybio/-/dC0TG3L7vXwJ | 21:51 |
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| nmz787_ | where? | 22:11 |
| kanzure | on that link | 22:11 |
| nmz787_ | hmm | 22:14 |
| nmz787_ | agent smith | 22:14 |
| nmz787_ | from The Matrix | 22:14 |
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| strages_home | impersonating an fbi agent is when you refer to yourself as an fbi agent... | 22:21 |
| kanzure | i think it might also include "misleading others to believe" | 22:23 |
| kanzure | not sure | 22:23 |
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| yashgaroth | haha when did cathal start using pgp signatures | 22:26 |
| kanzure | when he switched off of gmail a few months ago | 22:27 |
| kanzure | gene_hacker: sup? | 22:27 |
| gene_hacker | not much | 22:28 |
| gene_hacker | know a good decompiler by any chance? | 22:28 |
| kanzure | what's the target architecture? | 22:28 |
| gene_hacker | win32 | 22:28 |
| kanzure | ollydbg and ida pro | 22:28 |
| kanzure | i think ida has a decompiling feature | 22:29 |
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| Swordsman | I used ollydbg a while back | 22:30 |
| Swordsman | I figured "hey, why not learn assembly?" / "hmm, it'd be kinda cool if I could just type out an executable's bytecode in notepad via altcodes without having to rely on a compiler" | 22:32 |
| kanzure | i wrote a disassembler because fuck notepad or staring at bytecode all day. | 22:33 |
| Swordsman | ida didn't work for me, I couldn't even get it to run | 22:33 |
| Swordsman | though that was more due to the environment I was working in at the time | 22:33 |
| Swordsman | I went looking for assembly tutorials and they were all rather slow paced, so I figured it'd be easier to reverse engineer something so that I could get a feel for the sort of code that actually gets used, that compilers generate | 22:35 |
| Swordsman | all of my roommates at the time used utorrent and it was kept cuasing congestion on the network even when there weren't any torrents going, due to their dht system | 22:36 |
| kanzure | i don't see what torrenting has to do with shitty assembly documentation | 22:36 |
| kanzure | just read the instruction set documentation. | 22:37 |
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| Swordsman | they like to brag about how small their executable is, so I figured that I'd use ollydbg's comment section on the righthand side to write pseudocode generally describing what each byte in the program | 22:38 |
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| Swordsman | I decompiled about 30% of it by hand over the course of a week, and then windows update decided to restart my system while I wasn't looking | 22:39 |
| kanzure | why are you using windows | 22:40 |
| Swordsman | I'm not anymore | 22:40 |
| Swordsman | this was years ago | 22:40 |
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| kanzure | nmz787_: ah i didn't consider that it might be a reference to the matrix. since we were talking about the fbi i assumed they meant fbi agents. | 22:42 |
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| Swordsman | I think the point I was trying to make was "yeah, ollydbg's pretty nice" | 22:45 |
| Swordsman | I haven't slept in a while ._. | 22:45 |
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| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoAp0pzqLY4 | 22:47 |
| kanzure | .title | 22:47 |
| yoleaux | Autonomous Recharging for Persistent Missions with Quadrotors - YouTube | 22:47 |
| kanzure | i am not sure how that works. it looks like there are large metal contact pads that those quadrotors are landing on? | 22:51 |
| strages_home | yep, not even inductive it looks like. | 22:55 |
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| kanzure | hmm. i think it should be possible to print out a plastic docking station for automatically switching out a lipo battery. | 22:56 |
| kanzure | with some locking mechanism to actually attach it to the device. | 22:57 |
| Swordsman | https://fling.seas.upenn.edu/~yashm/wiki/pub/files/YashThesis.pdf | 22:58 |
| Swordsman | page 21 | 22:58 |
| yashgaroth | wha- oh | 22:59 |
| kanzure | haha ROS + matlab. i hope that's a joke. | 23:00 |
| kanzure | the ROS part is fine. but matlab.. :/ | 23:00 |
| Swordsman | huh. it's marked as page 13 in the pdf. | 23:00 |
| kanzure | page 2 has an ok photo. it's definitely a contact pad. i would think swapping out batteries would be cheaper than leaving a device charging for 90 minutes.. but whatever. | 23:02 |
| kanzure | On similar lines, another group has | 23:04 |
| kanzure | been working towards implementing a battery swapping station for small co-axial | 23:04 |
| kanzure | helicopters[10]." | 23:04 |
| kanzure | paperbot: https://fling.seas.upenn.edu/~yashm/wiki/pub/files/YashThesis.pdf | 23:05 |
| paperbot | XMLSyntaxError: None (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 318, in parse_html) | 23:05 |
| kanzure | what. | 23:05 |
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| kanzure | File "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 177, in download_url | 23:07 |
| kanzure | it really shouldn't get there because the previous few lines are checking for content-type == "application/pdf".. this server seems to return the correct content-type header. | 23:07 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/blob/master/modules/papers.py#L173 | 23:09 |
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| kanzure | oh well. it's time for a rewrite anyway. | 23:11 |
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| gene_hacker | autonomously recharging quadrotors eh? | 23:15 |
| gene_hacker | got a group around here doing that | 23:15 |
| gene_hacker | they're working on making a building awareness system that has turtle bots with inductive charging pads for quadcopters to charge on | 23:16 |
| kanzure | ok paperbot issue added, https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/11 | 23:19 |
| kanzure | also, i merged in cathal's pdfparanoia updates, https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/pull/23 | 23:19 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5509165 | 23:26 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/56dc111cbf4502d5666c7f3dab6647fc.pdf | 23:26 |
| kanzure | figure 4 does not look inviting. | 23:29 |
| kanzure | it looks like the batteries are placed on a rotating platform | 23:29 |
| kanzure | and then there's a funnel that the unit lands into ig uess | 23:30 |
| kanzure | *i guess | 23:30 |
| kanzure | is that a.. skateboard wheel? | 23:30 |
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| cpopell | Hm | 23:31 |
| cpopell | I think GRASP is working on that, btw | 23:31 |
| kanzure | "The octagonal stage can store and charge up to eight batteries in fiberglass compartments allowing one helicopter to fly indefinitely. " | 23:32 |
| gene_hacker | nope that's vex robotics parts | 23:32 |
| kanzure | please don't take away my nerd cred, i promise i'll play with more vex. | 23:33 |
| gene_hacker | don't, vex sucks | 23:35 |
| gene_hacker | it's also way overpriced | 23:36 |
| kanzure | this paper doesn't make sense. their battery swapping mechanism seems to be "we use magnets" but how do they disengage the helicopter's magnets when removing the battery? | 23:43 |
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| kanzure | i guess they just use more force than the helicopter's magnets. | 23:44 |
| kanzure | and i guess the batteries are guaranteed to stay attached throughout operation? some of these devices move at >2G, wouldn't the batteries just fly off? | 23:44 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://ijr.sagepub.com/content/31/5/664.short | 23:51 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Trajectory%20generation%20and%20control%20for%20precise%20aggressive%20maneuvers%20with%20quadrotors.pdf | 23:51 |
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