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| archels | http://www.metabody.eu/ | 01:02 |
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| archels | Metabody Conference Series 1 - Metahuman/Metaformance Studies 2013 | 01:02 |
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| nmz787 | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12206-008-0607-2 | 04:45 |
| paperbot | error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Development%20of%20rapid%20mask%20fabrication%20technology%20for%20micro-abrasive%20jet%20machining.pdf | 04:45 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 08:56 |
| JayDugger | I am not a bot, just erratic in attendance and predictable in comment. | 08:57 |
| kanzure | austin hackerspace hackbat https://sketchfab.com/show/3yuydBDk1GS4cZV9ksYPDZhhhYS | 08:58 |
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| kanzure | weird, garret was buying bitcoins the moment i started logging a bitcoin channel: | 09:52 |
| kanzure | 15:29 < bitsurfer> Newbie will buy small amount of BTC from seller with good history. Prefer email PPUSD or ING transfer. I have a well established online identity. Email me with link establishing history, and desired price: http://garrettlisi.com | 09:52 |
| kanzure | (2011-05-16 in #bitcoin-otc) | 09:52 |
| * bkero has a few bitcoins to sell, heh. | 09:52 | |
| kanzure | *garrett | 09:52 |
| bkero | I found them a week or so ago. I guess my friend paid me back when they were like $4/coin, while I was doing some datacenter work. | 09:53 |
| kanzure | he paid you $4 total? | 09:53 |
| kanzure | oh nevermind | 09:53 |
| phillyj | kanzure: what do you buy w/ btc? | 09:54 |
| kanzure | i don't. | 09:56 |
| kanzure | i was just looking at a log. relax. | 09:56 |
| phillyj | jus wondering | 09:56 |
| phillyj | i followed btc but didn't find it more useful to me | 09:56 |
| phillyj | not even as an investment | 09:57 |
| bkero | It's been useful for me as an investment, I found $600 between my digital couch cushions :) | 09:57 |
| phillyj | lol | 09:58 |
| phillyj | too much of a hassle, imo | 09:58 |
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| kanzure | bkero: what's the process for getting a project accepted into osuolauos hosting? there's a bunch of (open source) projects i know that are freaking out about where to get hosting. in particular phantomjs and openscad at the moment. | 10:43 |
| kanzure | (freaking out now that google code is dropping downloads, and github has dropped them too, and soon sourceforge will do whoknowswhat) | 10:43 |
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| bkero | kanzure: basically just email support@osuosl.org and say that they're an open source project, their project is about doing X, they have this many users, and they're looking for hosting. | 10:45 |
| kanzure | ok. phantomjs has something like 500,000 downloads (i'd guess at least 10,000 users). openscad is probably less, but a large chunk of the reprap community uses it. is this approximately the right scale? | 10:46 |
| bkero | yeah | 11:00 |
| bkero | That's totally fine, the OSL can set them up with a VM to do their whatever | 11:01 |
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| phillyj | i missed the topic, kanzure, sites are not offering downloading os projects>? | 11:13 |
| kanzure | what? i'm just asking bkero about a hosting deal that his former employer offered. | 11:23 |
| bkero | Hell, *I* probably have the resources to host them, but OSUOSL would be more diligent about it :) | 11:24 |
| kanzure | yeah, some people are offering their random private servers, but i think going with osuosl would make more sense | 11:25 |
| chris_99 | someone the otherday was talking about a tDCS schematic http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Human-Enhancement-Device-Basic-tDCS-Suppl/?ALLSTEPS just saw that on HAD | 11:33 |
| kanzure | i wish instructables would go away | 11:34 |
| kanzure | "let's split each sentence on to a separate page..." yeah, because we'll all find greater utility in your advertising income than, you know, reading or communicating well. | 11:35 |
| phillyj | kanzure: got an alternate? cut them some slack for trying to make a profit | 11:52 |
| kanzure | an alternate? yeah, use a wiki or some shit. anything, really. | 11:52 |
| phillyj | but instructables is more organized that an bunch of articles in spread out wikis; "one site to rule them all" | 11:53 |
| kanzure | it's actually not organized | 11:54 |
| kanzure | and "one sentence per page" is the same thing as "bunch of articles" | 11:54 |
| phillyj | there's always the "view on 1 page" option | 11:54 |
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| kanzure | no, i thought you had to pay for that? | 11:55 |
| ParahSailin | anything where you have to click to view on one page is shitty | 11:55 |
| kanzure | but also, just a pile of pictures isn't that helpful. that's why GVCS is crap. | 11:56 |
| phillyj | kanzure: i can do the 1-click for free | 11:59 |
| phillyj | don't know if its only avaailable to older users | 11:59 |
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| kanzure | can you link to an example of a full-page article? | 12:00 |
| kanzure | oh don't leave | 12:00 |
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| ParahSailin | he actually did | 12:12 |
| ParahSailin | the ?ALLSTEPS means view as one page | 12:12 |
| kanzure | oh ?ALLSTEPS | 12:12 |
| kanzure | http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Human-Enhancement-Device-Basic-tDCS-Suppl/?download=pdf | 12:13 |
| kanzure | blah that pops up asking for registration | 12:13 |
| kanzure | "As a Pro member, you will gain access to download any Instructable in the PDF format. You also have the ability to customize your PDF download." | 12:13 |
| kanzure | well ?ALLSTEPS seems to be new | 12:13 |
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| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/669145 | 13:45 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Looking%20into%20the%20Future%3A%20A%20Match%20between%20Self-View%20and%20Temporal%20Distance.pdf | 13:45 |
| ParahSailin | wait it downloaded something totally wrong | 13:50 |
| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1086/669145?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102052466813 | 13:50 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Looking%20into%20the%20Future%3A%20A%20Match%20between%20Self-View%20and%20Temporal%20Distance.pdf | 13:50 |
| kanzure | and it has a jstor watermark :( | 13:50 |
| kanzure | i thought pdfparanoia handled jstor? | 13:50 |
| ParahSailin | how is it downloading a completely different article | 13:51 |
| ParahSailin | i'd really like to help with new translators, but i dont have easy access to the raw html from the other side of the wall | 13:54 |
| ParahSailin | maybe ill give you a pull request for a new paperbot command that simply will output raw html | 13:55 |
| kanzure | ok i'd accept that. also you don't have to restrict that command to this channel, so it can be a separate file without the other crazy restrictions i put into modules/papers.py. | 13:56 |
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| ParahSailin | oh but it looks like jstor is one you already have using your own xpath stuff? | 13:58 |
| kanzure | here's my advice.. first, completely delete the python stuff i wrote for custom work-arounds. | 13:58 |
| kanzure | the right way to do that would be to have classes that inherit from some Plugin class, and then each Plugin can have some number of methods for detecting whether or not they handle the link, and other scenarios about discovering non-access or w/e. | 13:59 |
| kanzure | the way it's written now is just a pile of if/then statements that are completely untestable and worthless | 13:59 |
| kanzure | i guess they could be tested with HTTPretty mocks or something, but it's really really not worth the effort | 13:59 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/gabrielfalcao/HTTPretty#readme | 13:59 |
| ParahSailin | what is the phenny configuration you're using on paperbot, seems i can't ask it .commands | 14:05 |
| kanzure | lots of restrictions | 14:12 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/paperbot-phenny-default.py.txt | 14:14 |
| ParahSailin | its set up such that the var requests contains the state including the proxy information? | 14:16 |
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| ParahSailin | oh, nevermind | 14:17 |
| ParahSailin | you're running it there | 14:17 |
| kanzure | it's pretty neat how long it takes everyone to realize this | 14:17 |
| ParahSailin | no i knew that at one point | 14:18 |
| kanzure | in the future it would be nice to make paperbot connect to a list of proxies or try sci-hub or other things as fallbacks | 14:18 |
| kanzure | but currently there is hardly any support for "try a fallback" | 14:18 |
| kanzure | annnd zotero translation-server might not even be configured to go through a proxy as it is. so either that would have to be fixed in javascript for gecko sdk or we would have to route its http traffic with iptables/redsocks/libmproxy. | 14:19 |
| ParahSailin | yeah, already too many epicycles when 90% of requests seem to already be handled through your adhoc multibranch if statement | 14:27 |
| kanzure | it's a dumb design anyway | 14:27 |
| ParahSailin | i think with a few more manually written parsers for publishers, zotero dependency can be eliminated | 14:34 |
| kanzure | but what about the other 100s of zotero translators? | 14:34 |
| ParahSailin | thats probably deceptive | 14:35 |
| ParahSailin | every time i see someone use the zotero translator for a new obscure publisher it doesnt work | 14:36 |
| ParahSailin | after all, the whole problem we face is that 5 publishers carry 99% of every paper anyone would want to see | 14:38 |
| ParahSailin | i bet that nearly all of the remaining publishers could be handled by naive string matching of .pdf in src or href attrs | 14:40 |
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| kanzure | ParahSailin: well we can grep the logs to extract example links fed to paperbot | 15:01 |
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| kanzure | http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/bio-hacking-startup-cambrian-genomics-wants-to-laser-print-dna | 16:17 |
| kanzure | weird that cambrian would bother to call themselves biohacking. but whatever. | 16:17 |
| kanzure | eww it's just an embed of their solveforx video | 16:17 |
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| kanzure | "It's easy for the original author to make changes to the PR, but not easy for the maintainer or a third party to make changes. The micro-pedantry associated with spelling errors, tweaking commit messages, and trivial spacing/formatting issues can be more work for everyone when communicated through comments on PRs with the original author expected to apply and re-roll." | 22:20 |
| kanzure | i guess that's a good reason to not use github pull requests. | 22:20 |
| kanzure | speaking as a chronic pedant. | 22:20 |
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