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| kanzure | i think gwern might be using the word anonymity set wrong in http://www.gwern.net/Death%20Note%20Anonymity | 08:06 |
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| kanzure | *the term | 08:06 |
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| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=d46b943e Bryan Bishop: links for portlab | 08:12 |
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| kanzure | someone put openscad through emscripten http://www.fabfabbers.com/openscad/ but i'm not sure how this works. i thought openscad had a bunch of dependencies on CGAL and qt or something. | 08:31 |
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| JayDugger | Diplomatic cover (I think) refers to a intelligence agent assigned to an embassy in some other capacity. | 09:13 |
| JayDugger | I.e., you don't show up at the black tie soirée passing out your NSA/DIA/CIA/TLA business card. | 09:14 |
| JayDugger | It also provides a measure of diplomatic immunity if caught, as that fellow in Moscow got caught earlier this month. | 09:15 |
| JayDugger | You most likely get declared persona non grata and expelled from the host nation. | 09:16 |
| JayDugger | So I'm told, mostly by reading espionage novels. YMMV. | 09:18 |
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| ParahSailin | the last ringbearer is my favorite spy novel | 09:20 |
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| JayDugger | Ah...wasn't that a fantasy novel? A Tolkien homage? | 09:30 |
| JayDugger | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer | 09:32 |
| JayDugger | I think of that one. | 09:32 |
| ParahSailin | yeah | 09:43 |
| ParahSailin | spy novel set in middle earth | 09:43 |
| JayDugger | I only read the first few chapters in translation. | 09:47 |
| JayDugger | Wasn't there a similar Russian novel, the Silmarillion told from Morgoth's point of view? The Black Book of Barda? | 09:48 |
| JayDugger | Never mind...Black Book of Arda. https://sites.google.com/site/theblackbookofarda/book | 09:50 |
| ParahSailin | well everyone knows beren and luthien is just a story men tell | 09:51 |
| ParahSailin | elves associating with humans would be like a grownup with a child having an adult body | 09:52 |
| nmz787_ | can someone help me through what this NPN circuit is doing centered on Q1 on pg 3 of this http://www.parallaxsemiconductor.com/sites/default/files/parallax/P8X32AQuickStartSchematicRevA_2.pdf | 09:57 |
| nmz787_ | i think it's trying to pull RESn to ground (to perform a CPU reset) | 09:57 |
| nmz787_ | I've plugged it into some online circuit simulators and they don't give me good results when I drive the polarized cap with a 1hz 0 to 6 volt square wave | 09:58 |
| nmz787_ | tried connecting RESn to gnd or 3V (in the simulator) | 09:59 |
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| ParahSailin | "Agreed. My opinion is that calling the Glowing Plant project a "community" project, however potentially misleading, was a critical factor in its success. Biocurious' reputation was critical: I feel some recognition and support is due in return. | 12:28 |
| ParahSailin | mistake here is thinking the mba doing the glowing plant crap is ethical | 12:28 |
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| kanzure | i think they called it a "community project" because biocurious lets anyone setup a "community project" and use their facilities. so there were regular meetings of some people, and then they posted that project on kickstarter, and then biocurious is like "say whaat, you didn't even ask us if we would approve work on this sort of project". | 12:35 |
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| kanzure | "SynBioBeta is organizing a DIYBio Hangout tomorrow, with Mac, Cathal, Raymond, Ellen from Genspace, and Katriona Guthrie-Honea from the new HiveBio It's not clear to me whether this is an open hangout, or essentially just a live recorded conversation between a few selected guests. Either way - might be worth tuning in..." http://synbiobeta.com/podcasts | 12:35 |
| kanzure | yeah because fuck irc? | 12:36 |
| kanzure | i guess ellen would never be caught dead in here | 12:36 |
| ParahSailin | too late now, dude cashed his half mil | 12:37 |
| ParahSailin | i hope the jobsact wefunder shit happens soon | 12:37 |
| kanzure | what do you mean "too late"? i think he is owed the money he collected by the rules of the game. | 12:37 |
| ParahSailin | maybe itll reduce the frequency of scammy kickstarters | 12:38 |
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| ParahSailin | deloitte scumbag owes biocurious? | 12:38 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: want some recruiter spam? | 12:43 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, I don't know. | 12:45 |
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| ParahSailin | who doesnt want recruiter spam | 12:47 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: i dunno, you keep talking about how awful the haskell poop is at the big E | 12:48 |
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| delinquentme | https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network?utm_campaign=shops&utm_medium=link&utm_source=facebook&ref=bGluazo3MDU2NDgwOg== | 12:48 |
| kanzure | utm_source=facebook haha you use facebook | 12:49 |
| ParahSailin | pass on the recruiter spam, i need to get a free plane ride to bay area mid julyish | 12:49 |
| kanzure | pft that's like $50 for a one-way.. getting that free doesn't seem that useful? | 12:50 |
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| ParahSailin | its really that cheap these days? | 12:51 |
| kanzure | eh it might be $10 more | 12:52 |
| kanzure | but that's only to SF. other destinations seem to be more. | 12:52 |
| gradstudentbot | I remember the paper, I just don't remember the details. | 12:52 |
| kanzure | curious, i wonder if the bot is only talking when i talk. | 12:53 |
| kanzure | ah no, he said something to diginet the other day. | 12:54 |
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| brownies | i thought he only spoke when spoken to, like a good gradstudentbot ? | 13:10 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, but his project was so easy. | 13:10 |
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| kanzure | brownies: he ponders things relentlessly and sometimes writes down his conclusions. | 13:17 |
| kanzure | nice, jordan miller just updated his job title to 'assistant professor, bioengineering, rice university' | 13:19 |
| brownies | is that jmil? | 13:20 |
| kanzure | yes | 13:21 |
| ParahSailin | gradstudentbot: | 13:26 |
| gradstudentbot | That's definitely a Nature paper. | 13:26 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032063313001116 | 15:17 |
| paperbot | no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/New%20evidence%20of%20meteoritic%20origin%20of%20the%20Tunguska%20cosmic%20body.txt | 15:17 |
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| delinquentme | Juul, You're part of this 2k fund for the oakland meshne right?? | 18:46 |
| delinquentme | I was a fundraiser for it | 18:46 |
| kanzure | you were a fundraiser, you say? | 18:46 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: is that possible? | 18:46 |
| gradstudentbot | I don't think our fume hood is safe. | 18:46 |
| kanzure | fascinating | 18:47 |
| delinquentme | saw*** | 18:48 |
| brownies | what's a meshne? | 18:57 |
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| alusion | Any of you going to GF2045 | 18:59 |
| brownies | gradstudentbot: are you going? | 18:59 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, I don't know. | 18:59 |
| brownies | i swear this kid could pass the Turing test | 18:59 |
| kanzure | most grad students do | 19:00 |
| brownies | even though he's not nearly as useful as yoleaux | 19:00 |
| brownies | .meow | 19:00 |
| yoleaux | http://moar.edgecats.net/cats/tumblr_m7826eejVA1rqz8qx.gif | 19:00 |
| alusion | kanzure | 19:02 |
| alusion | Are you going to Global Future 2045 conference | 19:02 |
| kanzure | what do you want? | 19:02 |
| kanzure | no | 19:02 |
| alusion | internation congress* | 19:02 |
| alusion | Eh | 19:02 |
| alusion | do you know what it is | 19:02 |
| kanzure | it's probably that silly russia-2045 thing | 19:02 |
| alusion | It's right up your alley playboy. | 19:02 |
| alusion | Yeah | 19:03 |
| kanzure | no thanks | 19:03 |
| alusion | Well it's gunna be in NY this weekend | 19:03 |
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| alusion | Alright | 19:03 |
| bkero | 2045? Oh man this is transhumanist to an XXXTREME | 19:04 |
| alusion | http://2045.com/about | 19:04 |
| delinquentme | ^^ | 19:04 |
| kanzure | i am not interested in that group | 19:04 |
| kanzure | the origins of the 2045 marketing campaign is someone who is extremely untalented and uninteresting | 19:04 |
| kanzure | i doubt he has anything original or useful to help me with | 19:05 |
| alusion | "Marketing campaign" | 19:05 |
| kanzure | yes, it was originally a marketing campaign | 19:05 |
| bkero | kanzure: do you share similar goals or interests? | 19:05 |
| alusion | What is a better initiative? | 19:05 |
| kanzure | RTM was extremely annoyed about them | 19:05 |
| kanzure | fuck initiatives | 19:05 |
| kanzure | *about him | 19:05 |
| alusion | You realize majority of people are completely unaware of the exponential times we live in right | 19:06 |
| kanzure | i don't care | 19:06 |
| alusion | You're so edgy lol | 19:06 |
| kanzure | i promise you, i really don't care if you are unaware of me | 19:06 |
| kanzure | or anyone else for that matter | 19:06 |
| bkero | That's so postmodern of you. :P | 19:06 |
| kanzure | what? | 19:06 |
| bkero | Feeling particularly misanthropic tonight? | 19:06 |
| bkero | (not caring) | 19:06 |
| kanzure | no? | 19:06 |
| bkero | Just careless jibs. | 19:07 |
| kanzure | if you have some evidence about this campaign that i am not aware of, feel free to submit the evidence to me | 19:07 |
| kanzure | instead of being passive aggressive about it | 19:07 |
| kanzure | i have already given you specific evidence for why you shouldn't waste money on 2045.ru | 19:07 |
| bkero | This is actually the first I've heard of it. Don't really care about them. | 19:07 |
| kanzure | if you want to refuit it, you should do that instead of calling me misanthropic | 19:07 |
| kanzure | *refute | 19:07 |
| alusion | You could leverage the event to heighten the conversation level with certain collegues and acquiantences. | 19:08 |
| kanzure | alusion: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/declaration lists out some projects you can work on if you are interested in transhumanism | 19:08 |
| kanzure | alusion: nope, false! | 19:08 |
| kanzure | alusion: i have been to many transhumanist conferences and that has never been the case | 19:08 |
| alusion | People don't have time to read books | 19:08 |
| alusion | It's a 2 day brain dump | 19:08 |
| kanzure | i have also specifically documented everyone i have ever met at any conference | 19:08 |
| kanzure | and relentlessly stalked all of them | 19:08 |
| alusion | Which one is worth your mention. | 19:08 |
| kanzure | http://quantifiedself.com/2011/08/bryan-bishop-on-meetlog/ | 19:08 |
| kanzure | none of the conferences are useful | 19:08 |
| kanzure | some of the hackathons are fun, but people are assholes and think you need to be in person to work on projects (which turns out to be false) | 19:09 |
| kanzure | books aren't how you make transhumanist projects happen | 19:10 |
| kanzure | and whoever told you that is wrong | 19:10 |
| alusion | This is really interesting. Thanks for the link. | 19:10 |
| alusion | I'm wondering if you had a mostly privileged life. | 19:10 |
| kanzure | nope. mostly boring life. | 19:11 |
| bkero | That's not what he asked though. | 19:11 |
| bkero | (or wondered) | 19:11 |
| kanzure | went to school. dropped out. worked. lots of working. | 19:11 |
| alusion | Are you satisfied with the resources available on hand to you now? | 19:11 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, I read the paper, I just don't remember the details. | 19:11 |
| kanzure | yes, i am satisfied | 19:11 |
| kanzure | again if you have specific evidence that conferences are useful, let's fucking see it :) | 19:12 |
| kanzure | here's my evidence: | 19:12 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/ | 19:12 |
| alusion | They allow you to take a step back from the picture | 19:12 |
| kanzure | admittedly i could have done better with other conferences | 19:12 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2010/ | 19:13 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/humanityplus-at-caltech/ | 19:13 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/ | 19:13 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/open-science-summit-2011/ | 19:13 |
| gradstudentbot | If I break my arm, do I still have to present tomorrow? | 19:13 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/startup-science-2012/ | 19:13 |
| kanzure | (last one not as relevant i guess. but startup science was organized by jojack, a transhumanist who tends to pull other transhumanists into his conferences.) | 19:13 |
| kanzure | i would also like to point out that almost all "popular science" books on "transhumanism" tend to be scientifically unhelpful, including TSiN, aubrey's stuff (although his published papers are better), etc. | 19:15 |
| alusion | You're a blazing fast typer. I'm outside on a thinkpad. I can understand what you mean, sometimes the conversation can be watered down so that it may not fly over everyone's head. | 19:15 |
| kanzure | if you could identify what is flying over your head, i could probably explain | 19:15 |
| alusion | I mean for other people. | 19:15 |
| alusion | You could prob explain but what if you were working with people who hadn't a clue? | 19:16 |
| kanzure | but i'm not working with people who don't have a clue | 19:16 |
| kanzure | the vast majority of individuals in here are highly clueful | 19:16 |
| alusion | You are supposed to invite other people to the events so that they can keep pace. | 19:16 |
| kanzure | why? | 19:16 |
| alusion | seems like you got your financial resources locked in. | 19:16 |
| alusion | I don't, yet. | 19:16 |
| kanzure | i work and i get paid for my work, big deal. no magic formula. | 19:16 |
| alusion | My leaders and current executives aren't aware of the world we are stepping into. | 19:16 |
| alusion | I don't get paid yet, I take leaps of faith. Entrepreneurship | 19:17 |
| kanzure | your "leaders"? | 19:17 |
| bkero | kanzure: You're no longer at UT:A I take it | 19:17 |
| alusion | I mean like, in my state. | 19:17 |
| kanzure | if you are an entrepreneur why do you have leaders? | 19:17 |
| kanzure | bkero: i dropped out after the second semester, fuck that :) | 19:17 |
| kanzure | alusion: ah, well, i don't think you should slow yourself down like that. that seems highly unuseful. | 19:17 |
| bkero | kanzure: I figured something like that, but I figured you were working at a lab on campus. | 19:18 |
| kanzure | i was working 3 labs during those 2 semesters | 19:18 |
| kanzure | this is how i was able to publish some papers | 19:18 |
| bkero | Nice, any primaries? | 19:18 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: weren't you a coauthor on one of those papers? | 19:18 |
| gradstudentbot | Nobody is even going to read this paper. | 19:18 |
| bkero | lol | 19:18 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: but the article will be great! | 19:18 |
| gradstudentbot | It was in Science last month. | 19:18 |
| kanzure | bkero: nah | 19:18 |
| bkero | gradstudentbot: did you read my paper? | 19:18 |
| gradstudentbot | Where did you put the revisions to the paper? | 19:18 |
| bkero | gradstudentbot won't talk to me :( | 19:19 |
| gradstudentbot | Future work will focus on that. | 19:19 |
| alusion | kanzure, do you publish any of your work? | 19:19 |
| bkero | gradstudentbot, more like snarkbot | 19:19 |
| gradstudentbot | Wasn't there a paper about that? | 19:19 |
| kanzure | alusion: https://github.com/kanzure?tab=repositories http://diyhpl.us/cgit | 19:19 |
| bkero | kanzure: do any journals allow public domain submission yet? | 19:20 |
| kanzure | oh, probably... hm. | 19:20 |
| kanzure | plos one? | 19:20 |
| bkero | I'd believe that | 19:20 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:21 |
| gradstudentbot | Someone stole my pipette. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:21 |
| gradstudentbot | I need to send that abstract. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:21 |
| gradstudentbot | The protocol is wrong. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:21 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, it should take me about 2 days. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:21 |
| gradstudentbot | You know, I can just do consulting. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:22 |
| gradstudentbot | If I write this paper, then maybe I can use that as my thesis? | 19:22 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:22 |
| gradstudentbot | I have to order new primers. | 19:22 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:22 |
| gradstudentbot | My project sucks. | 19:22 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:22 |
| gradstudentbot | My project sucks. | 19:22 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:22 |
| gradstudentbot | Someone's sitting at my bench space. | 19:22 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: | 19:22 |
| gradstudentbot | I hear you make more money being a garbage man. | 19:22 |
| alusion | This is the first time I heard of the National Fab Lab Network Act | 19:24 |
| kanzure | it got tanked | 19:24 |
| kanzure | that file is old | 19:24 |
| alusion | Anything else in the works? | 19:24 |
| kanzure | i think http://diyhpl.us/cgit is a good overview | 19:25 |
| kanzure | there are things like https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer#readme that you could work on | 19:25 |
| kanzure | or even http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/nucleic/fbi-diybio-v1.pdf things | 19:25 |
| kanzure | oops i mean http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/nucleic/fbi-diybio-dna-v1.pdf | 19:26 |
| kanzure | of course, there are more generic tools like https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot and https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia that are critical (but not explicitly related to transhumanist activity) | 19:26 |
| alusion | I'm in a position right now to initiate more fab labs / hacker spaces / business incubators in the MD/DC/VA area. | 19:26 |
| kanzure | "initiate" | 19:27 |
| kanzure | why not just work at jigsaw | 19:27 |
| alusion | Places to foster the incredible talent we have. | 19:27 |
| kanzure | oh wait, jigsaw is at seattle | 19:27 |
| kanzure | md is buggs? why not just use buggs? | 19:27 |
| alusion | Was considering moving out there. | 19:27 |
| kanzure | "incredible talent" yawn... | 19:27 |
| kanzure | there is no magic here | 19:27 |
| alusion | what, Seattle? | 19:28 |
| kanzure | no, "here" as in "this world" | 19:28 |
| bkero | All the Seattle talent came to Portland. | 19:28 |
| kanzure | he is using talent to mean "people who are really smart", but the reality is that these projects aren't a matter of being smart | 19:28 |
| kanzure | b2g.. now that requires some thought i guess | 19:29 |
| bkero | kanzure: We've made a ton of god damn javascript APIs for everything. | 19:29 |
| bkero | It's almost as if Javascript is a real language now. | 19:29 |
| kanzure | bkero: hey any hints for running gecko headlessly? without an x server. maybe just a framebuffer? | 19:30 |
| bkero | kanzure: you could dump it into an xvfb pointing to nowhere | 19:31 |
| kanzure | no, i don't want xvfb | 19:31 |
| bkero | but I'll ask about that tomorrow | 19:31 |
| kanzure | and xvfb is deprecated | 19:31 |
| kanzure | you should use xserver-xorg-video-dummy | 19:31 |
| kanzure | but the point is i don't want these things.. let me know what you find :| | 19:31 |
| bkero | kanzure: Do you just want some DOM objects? | 19:31 |
| kanzure | no | 19:31 |
| kanzure | i would use dom.js if i just wanted dom things | 19:31 |
| kanzure | i want things like webgl, javascript, dom, webaudio, css2, css3 | 19:32 |
| kanzure | and iframes | 19:32 |
| bkero | without a rendering target | 19:32 |
| kanzure | a framebuffer would be ok | 19:32 |
| kanzure | maybe directfb | 19:32 |
| bkero | There's a GTK port to DirectFB ;) | 19:32 |
| kanzure | it's unmaintained | 19:32 |
| bkero | I tried getting that to work once | 19:32 |
| kanzure | according to the directfb developer that i asked yesterday | 19:32 |
| bkero | Yeah, it's a really big crapshoot | 19:32 |
| kanzure | (tarik sekman) | 19:32 |
| bkero | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134 | 19:32 |
| kanzure | (tarik sekmen) | 19:32 |
| kanzure | On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Tarik Sekmen <tarik@ilixi.org> wrote: | 19:33 |
| kanzure | > AFAIK we do not support GTK for some time; so I'm not sure if latest "GTK | 19:33 |
| kanzure | > on DFB" will work for you. It is maintained by their community. We support | 19:33 |
| kanzure | > "Qt on DFB" via our consulting business. | 19:33 |
| bkero | kanzure: You might see what the Wine guys are doing, they use gecko directly. | 19:33 |
| kanzure | of course, then i would have to use qt... | 19:33 |
| kanzure | why is wine using gecko? | 19:33 |
| bkero | I haven't taken a look at that, but I know the IE calls and frames in wine are subsituted with gecko. | 19:33 |
| kanzure | oh i guess win32 API things have IE and they decided to use gecko instead? | 19:33 |
| kanzure | well that sounds painful | 19:34 |
| bkero | Maybe you could lift something from it without having to resort to all of wine? | 19:34 |
| kanzure | i will look | 19:34 |
| bkero | Separating gecko from XUL has been unsupported since 2010 from Mozilla's point of view. | 19:34 |
| bkero | XULRunner on the other hand... | 19:35 |
| kanzure | lkcl was trying to get mozilla to support some DOM things through xpcom, but it turns out that they all hated him or something | 19:35 |
| bkero | I'm not sure XULRunner requires GTK, it can just render to Cairo. | 19:35 |
| kanzure | let me find the thread | 19:35 |
| bkero | Gecko uses cairo as it's renderer. | 19:35 |
| kanzure | there was pyxpcomext or something | 19:35 |
| bkero | interesting | 19:35 |
| kanzure | cairo has a cairo-directfb build option, but it wasn't working the other day. perhaps i will try again. | 19:36 |
| bkero | http://pyxpcomext.mozdev.org/ | 19:36 |
| alusion | Do you have any road map visuals or infographics? | 19:36 |
| bkero | alusion: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6a/No_Maps_for_These_Territories.png/220px-No_Maps_for_These_Territories.png | 19:36 |
| gradstudentbot | That remains an open question. | 19:36 |
| kanzure | bkero: http://gnusha.org/logs/2012-02-18.log | 19:36 |
| alusion | holy crap.. | 19:36 |
| kanzure | bkero: check out the logs near lkcl | 19:37 |
| bkero | kanzure: Yeah. I've tried the directfb mode before. | 19:38 |
| bkero | kanzure: You said scraping. Have you investigated selenium? | 19:38 |
| kanzure | selenium is pure evil | 19:39 |
| bkero | Interesting, I've never heard of hulahop before | 19:39 |
| kanzure | i do not want to run xvfb or xserver-xorg-video-dummy | 19:39 |
| kanzure | i would prefer to continue to use http://phantomjs.org/ which is a headless qtwebkit browser | 19:39 |
| kanzure | unfortunately it is webkit1 from 2009-2010, it's really ancient (qt 4.8) | 19:39 |
| klafka | oh great movie bkero | 19:40 |
| bkero | bleh | 19:40 |
| kanzure | http://slimerjs.org/ uses gecko except they seem to think xvfb is a good idea (it's not) | 19:40 |
| bkero | kanzure: Watir is something, might not offer what you want though. | 19:41 |
| kanzure | WebKitDFB.git is supposed to compile from r141xxx, so i will try that either today or tomorrow | 19:41 |
| bkero | I'm not sure how it handles the actual rendering. | 19:41 |
| bkero | hnkehgfvluffthlcfchhulufilfrhdhd | 19:41 |
| bkero | Damn yubikey | 19:41 |
| kanzure | yubikey? is that like a woubleyou? | 19:41 |
| bkero | It's a USB security device that emulates a keyboard and spits out one time pads when I touch the capacitive circuit. | 19:42 |
| kanzure | anyway, thanks for tolerating my silly questions | 19:42 |
| bkero | I'm off to get sushi. | 19:42 |
| kanzure | also who is working on servo? | 19:42 |
| kanzure | ok have fun | 19:42 |
| * bkero checks moz phonebook | 19:43 | |
| bkero | Brandon Eich is for one. | 19:43 |
| bkero | Brendan Eich* | 19:43 |
| kanzure | stalking powers, activate! | 19:43 |
| bkero | http://brendaneich.com/ | 19:43 |
| bkero | Stalking enabled. | 19:43 |
| kanzure | nice. | 19:43 |
| kanzure | .feed sushi | 19:44 |
| bkero | I learned about hulahop this evening though. | 19:44 |
| kanzure | before i mentioned it? | 19:44 |
| bkero | In the logs | 19:45 |
| bkero | from the pythonwebkit author | 19:45 |
| kanzure | ah. | 19:45 |
| gradstudentbot | That's the control group, right? | 19:46 |
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| kanzure | bkero: see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.embedding/c_NMcO-N8wo/discussion | 19:47 |
| gradstudentbot | I'm writing that up and it will be submitted soon. | 19:47 |
| kanzure | bkero: they stopped supporting gtkmozembed in 2011 | 19:47 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: the control group is a watermelon | 19:49 |
| gradstudentbot | Should have gone to med school. | 19:49 |
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| JayDugger | kanzure, have you met anyone who now works or who has worked at Mozilla Foundation? I've a co-worker who applied there this week. | 20:04 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: bkero | 20:04 |
| JayDugger | Thanks. | 20:05 |
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| klafka | JayDugger: i see those guys all the damn time | 20:16 |
| klafka | i think their office si right near mine | 20:16 |
| JayDugger | klafka, do you work there? | 20:17 |
| klafka | nope | 20:17 |
| gradstudentbot | Should have gone to med school. | 20:20 |
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| brownies | where do you work klafka_ ? | 20:44 |
| klafka_ | in soma | 20:44 |
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| kanzure | "sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr. X). it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy may be available and knows how it works. It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized like the one at ... | 20:54 |
| kanzure | ... Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine. Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher resolution if we desire. The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to learn ... | 20:55 |
| kanzure | ... its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament. https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be." | 20:55 |
| kanzure | "As I recall its not too big - maybe the size of a medium desk. and it sounds like we may have an operator, but where does it stay? do we have a volunteer to recieve, maintain and keep it for CCL? " | 20:56 |
| kanzure | https://www.noisebridge.net/images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_Manual-Troubleshooting-Reference_Guide.pdf | 20:56 |
| kanzure | "It's a desktop machine, so doesn't necessarily take up any more space than some bio equipment. Wonder how easy it would be to DIY a gold sputterer..." | 20:56 |
| gradstudentbot | We were out of the right dye, so I just used an equivalent. | 20:59 |
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| brownies | kanzure: that's quite the quandrary | 21:34 |
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| kanzure | brownies: not enough places to put all the science | 22:07 |
| klafka_ | duuuude | 22:12 |
| klafka_ | SEM | 22:12 |
| juri_ | kanzure: I used to have a GC/MS at freegeek arkansas. equipment like that just goes everywhere. | 23:08 |
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