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| wibzro | we should clone something | 00:02 |
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| wibzro | using DNA | 00:02 |
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| archels | .gc nanoarchitectonics | 10:35 |
| yoleaux | 36,500 (site), 7,370 (api) | 10:35 |
| archels | .g nanoarchitectonics | 10:35 |
| yoleaux | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanoarchitectonics | 10:35 |
| archels | damn, it's really a thing | 10:36 |
| brownies | .meow | 10:41 |
| yoleaux | http://moar.edgecats.net/cats/xNgpY4pwPK.gif | 10:41 |
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| kanzure | HEx1: hi | 17:10 |
| HEx1 | hi kanzure | 17:11 |
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| * bkero wants a brownie | 20:47 | |
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| kanzure | "The gist is that there were a lot of out of tree solutions (openvz is still used eg by Travis CI) but they had conflicting requirements and a lot of the suggestions were just "we need BSD jails" which is a very monolithic single purpose solution, like having a web server in the kernel (yes there was one) rather than having the kernel APIs in place so that was not needed." | 21:20 |
| kanzure | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5941382 | 21:20 |
| kanzure | https://lwn.net/Articles/179361/ | 21:20 |
| bkero | kanzure: problem with lxc? | 21:21 |
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| kanzure | bkero: nope, just history lessoning myself. | 21:30 |
| bkero | Ah | 21:31 |
| nmz787_ | http://doresearch.stanford.edu/research-scholarship/export-controls/export-controlled-items#pathogens-and-toxins | 21:40 |
| nmz787_ | Stanford only says 'genetic elements' associated with select-list pathogens | 21:40 |
| nmz787_ | but I wonder about DNA synthesis technology | 21:40 |
| nmz787_ | the ability to make /any/ long DNA | 21:41 |
| kanzure | let's get the pro-birth/pro-life people to support dna synthesis and genomic synthesis | 21:42 |
| kanzure | i think it could possibly turn all their hatred into something useful in this case | 21:43 |
| nmz787_ | got any ideas? | 21:43 |
| kanzure | the pope? | 21:43 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: you in? | 21:44 |
| yashgaroth | hrgh lemme read | 21:44 |
| kanzure | it's like two sentences | 21:45 |
| yashgaroth | how do we get from dna synthesis to the pope tho | 21:45 |
| yashgaroth | oh I thought the link was more informative | 21:46 |
| kanzure | seems like a leap. i can't think of a way to make it work. | 21:48 |
| kanzure | you would have to convince them that genomic dna is a person | 21:48 |
| kanzure | and that's not even true | 21:48 |
| yashgaroth | I mean uh I guess there might not be specific arms export controls on dna synthesizers | 21:48 |
| yashgaroth | anyway the closest I can get is religion believing 'man has dominion over all life on earth' but that kinda gets outweighed by 'don't play god' | 21:50 |
| kanzure | well, you can make various arguments about the information being what makes a person unique, and that information starts with the genome (let's ignore epigenetics) | 21:51 |
| kanzure | and then you can convince them that their anti-abortion stances should apply to synthetic genomes? | 21:51 |
| yashgaroth | ahhhhh okay | 21:52 |
| kanzure | e.g., deleting a genome is murder | 21:53 |
| yashgaroth | man synthesizing an entire human genome every time you need an oligo is gonna get pricey | 21:53 |
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| nmz787_ | so can we sell centrifuges to Iran then? | 22:25 |
| nmz787_ | hmm, I think not | 22:27 |
| nmz787_ | or at least section XIV of this persuades me to think not http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/documents/consolidated_itar/ITAR_Part121.pdf | 22:27 |
| nmz787_ | (centrifuges and DNA synthesizers) | 22:28 |
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