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| @kanzure | Pestdoktor: hi | 10:08 |
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| Pestdoktor | kanzure: hey there^^ | 10:13 |
| Pestdoktor | kanzure: just installed an IRC client on my phone and am now looking for some channels to idle in :-) | 10:17 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: the answer to your query is https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia | 10:25 |
| @kanzure | also, if anyone is feeling bored today, here are some things: | 10:25 |
| @kanzure | pdfparanoia needs a watermark detector (something that takes a pdf and then says whether a watermark is present, based on known publisher-offenders) https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/29 | 10:26 |
| @kanzure | pdfparanoia should inject scrubbing history metadata (plus which version of pdfparanoia was used) into scrubbed papers https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/30 | 10:26 |
| @kanzure | paperbot should be split into at least two python modules (one that is for phenny, the other that is just a generic paper fetching tool) https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/23 | 10:27 |
| @kanzure | paperbot needs doi support, probably https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/22 | 10:27 |
| @kanzure | annnd paperbot needs more/actual unit tests https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/4 | 10:27 |
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| nmz787_ | kanzure: how does one actually work on paperbot ? | 10:53 |
| @kanzure | first you delete everything that doesn't work, then you just do whatever you want | 10:54 |
| @kanzure | second, you write angry comments into this irc channel and then i answer your questions | 10:54 |
| @kanzure | there should be an install script or install instructions, i'm a bad person for not having done that already. i'll make sure to get to that soon. | 10:55 |
| @kanzure | i think paperbot is going to be split into two things | 10:55 |
| @kanzure | one is phenny-paperbot, which will be a module for phenny that uses paperbot | 10:55 |
| @kanzure | the other is paperbot, a python module that will be unrelated to irc | 10:56 |
| @kanzure | both of these will be python eggs installable via pip | 10:56 |
| @kanzure | for now you just have to manually install the dependencies, or you can make it send all zotero requests to the zotero translation-server already running on port whatever on gnusha.org... heh. | 10:56 |
| @kanzure | ok i've added a bug report about no install instructions, https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/24 | 10:57 |
| ParahSai1in | paperbot doi support should just use sci-hub doi support | 10:57 |
| gradstudentbot | I'm so doing industry. | 10:58 |
| @kanzure | the scihub module has doi support? | 10:58 |
| ParahSai1in | well, in the sense that anything going to dx.doi.org.sci-hub.org supports dois | 10:59 |
| @kanzure | ah great | 11:00 |
| ParahSai1in | i dont have it so that it will just take the doi and make that url | 11:00 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1237905 | 11:00 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/21dcbce8ae4bc78b90edde5e1d595fd2.txt | 11:00 |
| @kanzure | pffft /shared/img/pages/login/login_hit_hidden.gif?timestamp=2013-07-08T11:00:58.801-07:00 | 11:01 |
| ParahSai1in | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0042543 | 11:01 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Not%20All%20Sequence%20Tags%20Are%20Created%20Equal%3A%20Designing%20and%20Validating%20Sequence%20Identification%20Tags%20Robust%20to%20Indels.pdf | 11:01 |
| @kanzure | yeah but dx.doi.org redirects to the paper | 11:02 |
| @kanzure | so it is possible that this was not because of scihub | 11:02 |
| @kanzure | because gecko follows redirects i think | 11:02 |
| @kanzure | maybe paperbot should be less incomprehensible | 11:02 |
| ParahSai1in | then we can add direct doi support by detecting 10.XXXX/ queries and explicitly route those to sci-hub | 11:03 |
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| ParahSai1in | i still havent managed to confirm that the libgen upload stuff is working | 11:04 |
| ParahSai1in | paperbot: http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/rej.2013.1426 | 11:05 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/68437e312173c7ebc476acc1997b7b5c.txt | 11:05 |
| ParahSai1in | paperbot: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3779341 | 11:06 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5d642e6c5f0cd6daa587e939abf95f60.txt | 11:06 |
| ParahSai1in | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-32560-1_8 | 11:06 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e62d9d3407a1ff8d3dbd7843b0c3a414.txt | 11:06 |
| ParahSai1in | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305054807000159 | 11:06 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Biclustering%20in%20data%20mining.pdf | 11:06 |
| ParahSai1in | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9780470444214.ch67/summary | 11:07 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d5b703d8944cd1231724cc18771eb4f9.txt | 11:07 |
| ParahSai1in | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S0032945208030028 | 11:07 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Two%20new%20species%20of%20swallowerfishes%20of%20the%20genera%20Chiasmodon%20and%20Kali%20%28Chiasmodontidae%29.pdf | 11:07 |
| @kanzure | yeah, the system should be much more transparent | 11:08 |
| @kanzure | i'd like to make an http log for paperbot where i can send all the errors and output from gecko, zotero translation-server, zotero translators, any python gunk, etc. | 11:08 |
| ParahSai1in | i think with a little more work we could get away from the zotero hack | 11:09 |
| gradstudentbot | Who the hell stole my pipette? | 11:10 |
| ParahSai1in | and we should move to libgen as the only public archive | 11:12 |
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| ParahSai1in | unless the zotero translators are really good | 11:18 |
| ParahSai1in | and then maybe the zotero translator pdf result could be plugged into sci-hub | 11:18 |
| ParahSai1in | as a second attempt before spewing .txt garbage | 11:18 |
| nmz787_ | Burninate: regarding what fenn said about getting spectra from electron microscope images, it's called Secondary Ion Mass Spec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_ion_mass_spectrometry | 11:26 |
| nmz787_ | kanzure: so it sounds like no progress has been made for fixing zotero translator | 11:26 |
| @kanzure | fixing how? | 11:26 |
| @kanzure | ParahSai1in: the zotero translators are really good, there's 100s and i don't want to repeat all of their work. by "really good" i mean numerous, their quality isn't that spectacular (especially since their test famework is shit). | 11:29 |
| ParahSai1in | then we need automated translation of js to py | 11:30 |
| @kanzure | pyjamas can do that, but i'd really rather not. those translators are tied into firefox/gecko/zotero. | 11:31 |
| @kanzure | there's lots of people that use zotero and they have incentive to update their translators | 11:31 |
| @kanzure | sooo if we come up with some python->javascript or javascript->python thing, it would be nice if zotero people can still use it | 11:31 |
| @kanzure | but it's not a strict requirement. just a nicety. | 11:31 |
| ParahSai1in | ok | 11:35 |
| ParahSai1in | then we can do better integration between pdf and doi metadata that the translator server gives us and scihub | 11:35 |
| @kanzure | sure | 11:35 |
| @kanzure | at this point i think the options are either javascript (running in gecko or webkit) or we use python with webkitgtk+ (which has gobject bindings into python to give us access to the dom and javascript) | 11:36 |
| @kanzure | because publishers will continue to use wacky methods in the future, including js bullshit | 11:36 |
| @kanzure | so that limits our options to: gecko + slimerjs, gecko + zotero translation-server, phantomjs + javascript crap of our own, python + webkitgtk+, and maybe some python<->js conversion junk | 11:37 |
| ParahSai1in | you know those ones that you have hacked manually because zotero can't do it? | 11:37 |
| @kanzure | i hacked those manually but i should have added them to zotero and i didn't :( | 11:37 |
| ParahSai1in | yeah, exactly | 11:37 |
| ParahSai1in | we're never gonna push this stuff back upstream | 11:37 |
| @kanzure | why not | 11:37 |
| @kanzure | there's hope for me, i promise | 11:37 |
| ParahSai1in | same reason you haven't done it yet | 11:37 |
| @kanzure | yeesh, you have zero faith in me :) | 11:38 |
| ParahSai1in | it is kind of an ugly hack | 11:38 |
| ParahSai1in | despite all the work the zotero people put in | 11:38 |
| @kanzure | download_url is definitely a hack | 11:38 |
| @kanzure | oh, zotero.. yeah. | 11:38 |
| @kanzure | zotero is mostly simonster right now i think | 11:39 |
| ParahSai1in | ugly hack to have a translator server and all that business | 11:39 |
| @kanzure | so, the problem with moving away from zotero is that we're basically proposing to repeat all that work, and then take responsibility for it | 11:39 |
| @kanzure | realistically that means *me* taking responsibility for about 100-200 different translators/scrapers | 11:39 |
| klafka | i thought zotero had like an actual team | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | "team" https://github.com/zotero/translators/contributors | 11:40 |
| ParahSai1in | zotero has 100-200 things in the translators directory, but how many of those are actual journals | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | oh wait that's actually pretty good | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | 6 regular contributors is not bad | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | i agree that we could probably make something easier to maintain | 11:42 |
| @kanzure | their test suite is craaaap.. it was tacked on as an after-thought. | 11:42 |
| @kanzure | /** BEGIN TEST CASES **/ https://github.com/zotero/translators/blob/master/REDALYC.js#L89 | 11:42 |
| @kanzure | and crap like "doWeb" wtf is "doWeb" etc.. | 11:43 |
| ParahSai1in | i doubt the zotero framework even supports pages that have js | 11:45 |
| ParahSai1in | it seems limited to xpath stuff | 11:46 |
| gradstudentbot | Who used the last of the growth medium? | 11:47 |
| * brownies pokes gradstudentbot | 11:50 | |
| gradstudentbot | You know they keep the mice in better conditoins than us. | 11:50 |
| archels | TYPO | 11:53 |
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| @kanzure | ParahSai1in: it definitely supports javascript. it's gecko. | 11:56 |
| archels | kanzure: gradstudentbot is not apparently on github. How may we suggest lines for it? | 11:56 |
| gradstudentbot | My parents keep asking when I'm going to finish. | 11:56 |
| ParahSai1in | i guess if the DOM is generated somewhat dynamically by some js | 11:57 |
| @kanzure | archels: the format is one line per line, either tell me via pm/email/in here, or drop a link, or something | 11:57 |
| @kanzure | archels: also feel free to recommend redactions | 11:58 |
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| archels | well, conditions is spelled wrong | 11:59 |
| @kanzure | i already fixed it, gah | 11:59 |
| archels | "Do I use a one or two sided t-test for that?" | 11:59 |
| archels | I'm not really good at this sort of thing though | 12:00 |
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| @fenn | nmz787_: SIMS is only used in FIB (hence the "secondary ion" part) see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_Microscope#Color | 12:03 |
| @kanzure | ParahSai1in: oh you mean, the translators themselves only do xpath things? no i think they can all other js functions. | 12:03 |
| @kanzure | ParahSai1in: if they can't call other js functions then yeah i agree it's time to trash it | 12:04 |
| ParahSai1in | "Each value can be either a string, in which case it is always the same, a function, or a chained series of filters. This last form is most common. In the above example we can see, for instance, the creators filter. It starts with an XPath expression." | 12:05 |
| @kanzure | it's a shame that they focus so much on xpaths | 12:05 |
| @kanzure | it should be functios | 12:05 |
| @kanzure | *functions | 12:05 |
| @kanzure | it's javascript.. functions are supposed to be first-class citizens. | 12:06 |
| ParahSai1in | i suppose it could disregard the xpath and do a function | 12:06 |
| @kanzure | part of the problem with python + webkitgtk+ is that users would have to compile webkitgtk+.. or there would have to be a recent release of it (most package repos don't have a monthly release of webkit) | 12:07 |
| @kanzure | and then people inside of a browser can't use the translator (which i think maybe is important??) | 12:07 |
| ParahSai1in | well, obviously it uses a chained computation for the translator fields, so it's first class function-aware | 12:07 |
| ParahSai1in | FW.Xpath() is a continuation monad of some sort | 12:08 |
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| ParahSai1in | https://github.com/simonster/zotero-transfw/blob/master/framework.js | 12:10 |
| ParahSai1in | you can evaluate arbitrary functions inside this monad | 12:11 |
| @kanzure | what is transfw | 12:11 |
| ParahSai1in | dunno, i just googled for the first thing i could find that defines the Xpath function | 12:11 |
| ParahSai1in | this is actually a pretty clever way to define monadic computations in js | 12:13 |
| ParahSai1in | oh, no, it doesnt actually work that way | 12:14 |
| ParahSai1in | it only evaluates a series of filters that apply to the xpath object | 12:14 |
| @kanzure | ugh | 12:15 |
| ParahSai1in | i dont see any evidence that you can define arbitrary js that is aware of the entire DOM within this Xpath() computation | 12:16 |
| @kanzure | uhh.. then wtf is the point of any of it. | 12:16 |
| ParahSai1in | hm, i bet it could be rewritten as the continuation monad that i described | 12:19 |
| @kanzure | yeah, but then you would have to test all of their current translators for compatibility or something | 12:19 |
| ParahSai1in | nothx | 12:19 |
| @kanzure | i don't think that gecko is a dependency worth having | 12:19 |
| @kanzure | or rather, i don't think the zotero plugin is a good dependency to have ;) | 12:19 |
| @kanzure | gecko is a possibly okay dependency, especially because of http://slimerjs.org/ or the xpcom/python gecko bindings (ask bkero) | 12:19 |
| ParahSai1in | i have a bit of a bias towards finding a reason to drop it-- it may indeed support arbitrary js for the FW.scraper stuff | 12:20 |
| @kanzure | simonster actually had trouble porting zotero into zotero/translation-server .. if you look, it doesn't even support iframes :) not all translators work | 12:20 |
| @kanzure | FW? | 12:20 |
| ParahSai1in | FW. is what framework.js is imported as in other stuff | 12:21 |
| ParahSai1in | FW.scraper is how all the translators are described | 12:21 |
| archels | Program on Sept 28, 2013: | 12:22 |
| archels | “Science Speed Dating” by participating PhD students | 12:22 |
| archels | wat | 12:22 |
| nmz787_ | fenn: ahh, similar general idea though, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_spectroscopy | 12:27 |
| nmz787_ | i guess that was what I was really thinking, though i did know of SIMS through FIB | 12:28 |
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| @kanzure | does anyone have 3-4 btc they would be willing to sell to a Noble Cause? | 13:25 |
| @kanzure | haha 12 | 13:30 |
| @kanzure | fdjkalfjadkfjakldfjalda fucking irssi | 13:30 |
| ThomasEgi | does that noble cause involve filling my fridge with beer? | 14:02 |
| gradstudentbot | Sure, I'd love to switch into colorectal. | 14:03 |
| bkero | I have some bitcoins I could sell for market rate to a Noble Cause. ;) | 14:04 |
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| @kanzure | bkero: yeah? how do you want to do this? | 14:10 |
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| bkero | kanzure: I have my wallet stored on my desktop at home, so let's see what bitcoincharts says when I get home and can transfer them to you, then you can paypal that to me? | 14:14 |
| bkero | or google wallet or amazon payments | 14:14 |
| @kanzure | yeah, has to be pp in this case | 14:15 |
| @kanzure | thank you | 14:16 |
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| bkero | np | 14:26 |
| bkero | I'll ping you when I'm home and have the desktop all bootered up | 14:26 |
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| ParahSai1in | kanzure: ah looks like zotero has freeform translators as well | 14:58 |
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| robit | ima robit. | 15:07 |
| ParahSai1in | 16:59 < fejj> I think my testimony in Apple vs Samsung totally destroyed Apple's patent last week | 15:08 |
| ParahSai1in | 16:59 < fejj> you could see it in the faces of the lawyers examining/cross examining me | 15:08 |
| ParahSai1in | 17:01 < fejj> DMXRoid, so Apple's patent was basically: use at least 2 threads in an app so the UI can be handled in 1 thread and | 15:08 |
| ParahSai1in | data sync in another thread, so as to avoid blocking/hanging the UI | 15:08 |
| @kanzure | robit: hello | 15:09 |
| ryankarason | (defun say-hello () "hello") | 15:10 |
| robit | SAY-HELLO | 15:10 |
| ryankarason | (say-hello) | 15:10 |
| robit | "hello" | 15:10 |
| ryankarason | sorry for bringing around. just wanted to test a change in multiple channel support. | 15:10 |
| @kanzure | pff let's not have random bots in here just for the hell of it | 15:10 |
| ryankarason | well, it isn't quite just for the hell of it | 15:11 |
| ryankarason | in the future i plan to mute its function in this channel | 15:11 |
| ryankarason | and just use it for the logging it does | 15:11 |
| @kanzure | do you have something against http://gnusha.org/logs/ | 15:11 |
| ryankarason | no, do you have logs there? | 15:11 |
| ryankarason | just i find that some channels i go to don't have logs. so i made a bot to log all the channels i use. | 15:12 |
| @kanzure | see /topic | 15:12 |
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| ryankarason | there is much in topic never noticed the logs | 15:12 |
| ryankarason | and so happy to see you all use | 15:12 |
| ryankarason | date -I format :) | 15:12 |
| ryankarason | now i can use my fancy shell script to pull logs | 15:13 |
| @kanzure | iso 8602 is your master | 15:13 |
| ryankarason | i need to create a custom syntax highlighting file for you logs though | 15:13 |
| ryankarason | i wrote a bash script to curl a websites logs, based on using date to figure out which log. and then load into vim with syntax highlighting | 15:13 |
| ryankarason | so "read-log -a 3" will pull the log from 3 days Ago | 15:14 |
| ryankarason | or you can | 15:14 |
| ryankarason | read-log -d 2013/07/03 | 15:14 |
| ryankarason | errr | 15:15 |
| ryankarason | read-log -d 2013-07-03 | 15:15 |
| ParahSai1in | (defun hodor () (cons "hodor (hodor))) | 15:15 |
| robit | NIL | 15:15 |
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| ParahSai1in | (hodor) | 15:15 |
| @kanzure | gg | 15:16 |
| ParahSai1in | hodor | 15:17 |
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| ryankarason | awh sorry ParahSai1in | 15:24 |
| ryankarason | but also, it returned NIL because you forgot to finish your "" | 15:25 |
| ParahSai1in | yeah just noticed that | 15:25 |
| ryankarason | good thing, you trying to stack overflow it | 15:25 |
| ryankarason | and all | 15:25 |
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| @kanzure | counter culture labs members https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsQ2Ur3gqJI_dG9ITU83aFZlQ2NEVUZjUFZpckxQUnc&usp=sharing | 17:07 |
| @kanzure | eww why did they make the name plural? | 17:07 |
| @kanzure | is there a good reason to call it labs? | 17:07 |
| @kanzure | because then you have to say 'labs members' which is definitely wrong | 17:08 |
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| brownies | yeah, but if you're a hip cutting-edge tech company you have to pluralize "Lab" | 17:27 |
| brownies | "Google Labs" not "Google Lab" | 17:27 |
| @kanzure | true | 17:27 |
| @kanzure | they aren't really a company though.. i mean their business model is junk ("charge membership fees, then pray"). | 17:28 |
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| @kanzure | it seems like it might be useful if someone came up with an actually useful business model for those hackerspaces | 17:35 |
| @kanzure | like, even consulting would be better than membership fees | 17:35 |
| brownies | there exists a viable business model | 17:37 |
| brownies | plenty of coworking spaces / shared office-space-providers / etc are doing very well in the current economy | 17:38 |
| @kanzure | biocurious only has 30 members | 17:39 |
| brownies | aren't they the ones who are about to go bankrupt? | 17:39 |
| @kanzure | and it's the largest community biology-related hackerspace | 17:39 |
| @kanzure | they are about to go bankrupt if they don't get more members, yes | 17:39 |
| gradstudentbot | Is there free food at that seminar? | 17:39 |
| brownies | and weren't you telling me how way more than 30 people regularly use the space? | 17:40 |
| @kanzure | they can't afford free food | 17:40 |
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| @kanzure | i dunno if i was the one telling you that, but they did mention something about lots of non-members using the space | 17:40 |
| brownies | so "members" clearly just means "people they mumbled at long enough to get a credit card number from" ... it's not actually any meaningful measure of the market size | 17:40 |
| @kanzure | ParahSai1in: hey i'm really confused, what did we decide about zotero and what scrapers to write? i think it's going to take 5-6 hours of effort to rewrite all of the translators correctly. | 17:40 |
| brownies | they should just start charging for "day passes" | 17:41 |
| brownies | "spending the day here? that'll be $20. there's all the coffee you can drink and you can use the space all day." | 17:41 |
| @kanzure | huh, i searched my email archive and they have never mentioned day passes wtf | 17:42 |
| @kanzure | okay i have asked them | 17:43 |
| @kanzure | i still don't like the idea of membership fees. why not just do projects and get paid huge gobs of money, then do more projects? | 17:43 |
| brownies | "projects" ? | 17:47 |
| @kanzure | sure, like as a contract research-organization (it's how the biotech industry is structured) | 17:47 |
| brownies | ah. yes that would be nice. | 17:47 |
| brownies | but if they're not coordinated enough to charge money to people, they're probably not coordinated enough to do contract research... | 17:48 |
| brownies | Noisebridge seems to be staying afloat; what's their secret? | 17:48 |
| @kanzure | they probably survive off of the guilt of engineers that used to do electronics but now do too much software | 17:48 |
| @kanzure | damn it i don't really want to make a rewrite of zotero | 17:50 |
| Burninate | you could upgrade from 'hackerspace' | 17:53 |
| Burninate | to 'co-working space' | 17:53 |
| Burninate | add a semiprivate work area and a locker and charge monthly | 17:54 |
| Burninate | apparently a desk on that model runs $200/month by MIT | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | biologists are poor | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | they get paid minimum wage | 17:55 |
| Burninate | http://p.irateship.com/ | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | sure, there's also bosslab in somerville | 17:56 |
| @kanzure | let's not play hackerspace geographical bingo on irc, that's a no-win scenario for both parties | 17:56 |
| Burninate | just an example, not a suggestion :) | 17:57 |
| @kanzure | are you in somerville? | 17:57 |
| Burninate | nowhere near, just had a friend use that space | 17:57 |
| @kanzure | where are oyu? | 17:57 |
| @kanzure | you* | 17:57 |
| Burninate | Actually... | 17:58 |
| Burninate | I suspect I'm pretty centrally located as far as bioscience, if I had anything to do with the field personally | 17:58 |
| Burninate | Montgomery County, MD | 17:58 |
| @kanzure | san diego? | 17:58 |
| @kanzure | oh | 17:58 |
| @kanzure | then you are close to buggs? | 17:58 |
| Burninate | ? | 17:58 |
| Burninate | I'm right near the new FDA complex | 17:59 |
| Burninate | near NIH | 17:59 |
| @kanzure | baltimore underground science space (bugss) | 17:59 |
| Burninate | near Johns Hopkins Shady Grover and the genomics cluster | 17:59 |
| Burninate | *Grove | 17:59 |
| Burninate | nah, I don't really go for hackerspaces as of yet | 18:00 |
| bkero | Go for hackerspaces. | 18:00 |
| Burninate | I'm in illness-postcollege-preemployment limbo with no money for physical projects at the moment | 18:01 |
| @kanzure | Burninate: what did you study? | 18:02 |
| Burninate | GIS & Remote Sensing | 18:03 |
| Burninate | if I had any cash I'd have a UAV aerial photography business to prepare for future legalizing legislation, and that might actually benefit from that sort of thing | 18:04 |
| Burninate | but alas... | 18:04 |
| Burninate | gonna have to get a real job first | 18:04 |
| @kanzure | you could easily bootstrap that business by making it into something that people chip in money for | 18:05 |
| @kanzure | e.g. you could have a local project and get people to chip in money to have their house imaged or whatever | 18:05 |
| @kanzure | as a silly novelty | 18:05 |
| @kanzure | bkero: you ready? | 18:05 |
| @kanzure | bkero: ah nevermind, the other person isn't here at the moment | 18:06 |
| Burninate | can't bootstrap if it's not legal | 18:06 |
| @kanzure | nonsense.. | 18:06 |
| @kanzure | btw if you have customers willing to pay for aerial photography, run the numbers by me | 18:06 |
| Burninate | I do not. | 18:07 |
| @kanzure | you should go get some :) | 18:07 |
| brownies | kanzure: why would he run numbers by you for that? | 18:07 |
| @kanzure | because he wants money | 18:07 |
| @kanzure | and if it's an actually profitable business, why not? | 18:07 |
| Burninate | 0.o | 18:07 |
| @kanzure | it's not an extremely technically challenging project | 18:07 |
| @kanzure | and if it pays the premiums that other photography services do, then it is probably worth taking 30 seconds to consider | 18:08 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, but his PI wrote his dissertation. | 18:08 |
| @kanzure | jeesh "I have my BS in biology and have yet to find a job two years out of school so I would have time, but not money to donate to the cause. I created, organized, and ran a biology club that is still going now at my college, so I do have some experience running things. I also worked doing Prep TA for the Biology 101 labs, so I know how to handle supplies and all of that. I'm pretty far out of the city in the Barrington area. But let me ... | 18:08 |
| @kanzure | ... know if you'd like some help." | 18:08 |
| Burninate | "Earlier this month, NBC reported aerial photographer Mark Bateson pointing out that many hobbyists can get away with UAV photography or videography under remote-control guidelines. | 18:09 |
| Burninate | “But as soon as you turn it into a business … the FAA says you are violating the national airspace,” Bateson said." | 18:09 |
| @kanzure | yeah, many companies start out by violating crap, and then they fix it | 18:10 |
| Burninate | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/15/faa-halts-mans-drone-photography-business-over-regulations/ | 18:10 |
| Burninate | There is an understood market in real estate photos | 18:10 |
| Burninate | and a poorly understood one in new applications for things like agriculture | 18:10 |
| @kanzure | do they do aerial yield estimation? | 18:11 |
| Burninate | some of the most impressive work I've seen was a commercial tourism campus - a ski resort | 18:11 |
| @kanzure | crop yield i mean | 18:11 |
| Burninate | They don't, for the most part. But they could. | 18:11 |
| @kanzure | what do they do instead? | 18:11 |
| Burninate | I had some contacts in school testing fertilizer usage vs NPP vs water quality using a terrestrial photospectrometer | 18:13 |
| Burninate | But I expect mostly they use a ruler :) | 18:13 |
| @kanzure | i wonder if you could have a fix on agriculture trading by trading based on aerial photos for different commodity crops | 18:14 |
| Burninate | On a large market scale, you can do that with some of the lower-resolution, lower-revisit-time satellite photos now I believe | 18:15 |
| Burninate | there's probably a finance company doing precisely that | 18:15 |
| @kanzure | stealth finance drone :3 | 18:17 |
| @kanzure | (ok doesn't have to be actually stealth or a drone. it could be a balloon.) | 18:17 |
| Burninate | Balloon and kite aerial photography probably represent the best bootstrapping opportunities | 18:18 |
| Burninate | and for real estate, a camera on a very long pole can do surprisingly well | 18:18 |
| Burninate | Congress has been dragging its feet for years now though | 18:26 |
| Burninate | so idunno how long exactly I'd have to wait | 18:26 |
| Burninate | *Congress and the FAA | 18:26 |
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| Burninate | two years and three months is the *official* deadline for the FAA to come up with a plan | 18:37 |
| Burninate | but it's blown such things before | 18:37 |
| @kanzure | maybe i should switch to typing on http://revolutiongrand.com/ProductdetailsV1.aspx?ID=15 | 18:50 |
| @kanzure | or rather, http://revolutiongrand.com/ProductdetailsV1.aspx?ID=13 | 18:51 |
| bkero | kanzure: lemme know when :) | 18:51 |
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| @kanzure | bkero: gonna be a while, sorry.. how much can you sell btw? | 18:56 |
| bkero | kanzure: I think I have ~11 coins | 18:56 |
| @kanzure | cool | 18:57 |
| @kanzure | yeah the other person is on the wrong side of the planet | 18:57 |
| bkero | I'm on all sides of the planet. | 18:58 |
| bkero | So whenever | 18:58 |
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| @kanzure | brownies: the only mention of 'day passes' is from some old diybio-sf emails when they got into a complication with techshop.. techshop was the one demanding they purchase day passes :) | 19:19 |
| ParaSa1lin | kanzure, what is an example response from translation server | 19:31 |
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| @kanzure | ParahSailin: response = requests.post("http://gnusha.org:1969/web", data=json.dumps({"url": "http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v5/n10/full/nnano.2010.193.html", "sessioni | 19:36 |
| @kanzure | d": "what"}), headers={"Content-Type": "application/json"}) | 19:37 |
| @kanzure | errg | 19:37 |
| @kanzure | import requests; import json; response = requests.post("http://gnusha.org:1969/web", data=json.dumps({"url": "http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v5/n10/full/nnano.2010.193.html", "sessionid": "what"}), headers={"Content-Type": "application/json"}); print response.content | 19:37 |
| @kanzure | ParahSailin: i'm confused, am i supposed to be rewriting zotero translators right now? | 19:39 |
| @kanzure | ParahSailin: i mean, that's going to end up being a bunch of work | 19:40 |
| ParaSa1lin | im just gonna make some stuff to fetch pdf urls that translation server returns but the bot's network can't download | 19:41 |
| ParaSa1lin | and upload to libgen based on the doi in the metadata | 19:41 |
| ParaSa1lin | actually ill check if its on libgen first based on zotero translator doi | 19:41 |
| @kanzure | but that's what paperbot is already doing.. it should pass on the pdf url to download_url | 19:41 |
| @kanzure | the pdf url is returned by zotero translation-server | 19:42 |
| @kanzure | oh maybe you didn't pass that url into scihubber | 19:42 |
| ParaSa1lin | oh was it? derp | 19:42 |
| @kanzure | well.. take a look at the json output from response.content in that example. | 19:42 |
| ParaSa1lin | no, i was taking "line" into scihubber | 19:42 |
| ParaSa1lin | confusingly i called mine pdfurl, and your pdf_url is what zotero yields | 19:43 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/zotero-translator-server.output.json | 19:43 |
| brownies | kanzure: and naturally techshop is still in business. | 19:50 |
| @kanzure | yes, but not something i participate in | 19:50 |
| @kanzure | that shit's expensive just for a saw and a table | 19:50 |
| brownies | well, you're also paying for the building, and the utilities, and the "ambience" | 19:51 |
| @kanzure | mm yeah ambience fuck yeah | 19:52 |
| brownies | i'm sure that's basically the marketing pitch. | 19:53 |
| @kanzure | their marketing pitch is "american innovation blah blah blah" | 19:53 |
| @kanzure | "TechShop is a vibrant, creative community that provides access to tools, software and space. " | 19:54 |
| @kanzure | oh geeze, vibrant | 19:54 |
| @kanzure | they are only at 6 locations? i thought they had more. | 19:55 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: hi | 20:27 |
| yashgaroth | must say I greatly enjoyed < gradstudentbot> Sure, I'd love to switch into colorectal. | 20:27 |
| gradstudentbot | Actually, I didn't do that part, it was already here when I joined the lab. | 20:27 |
| jrayhawk | http://ebm.sagepub.com/content/232/10/1266.full huh, eggs are much less of a lifesaver for vegetarians than i thought | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | ParahSailin: you should play with webkitgtk+ if you want to see what that would be like. there are python bindings. just do "from gi.repository import WebKit" i think. i recently compiled new bindings for recent webkit (as of a few weeks ago). | 20:28 |
| @kanzure | paperbot: http://ebm.sagepub.com/content/232/10/1266.full | 20:28 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Vitamin%20B12%20Sources%20and%20Bioavailability.pdf | 20:29 |
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| ParaSa1lin | kanzure, pull request (at this point i basically have no ability to test changes, so it could be completely broken) | 20:45 |
| @kanzure | if i pull now and there are bugs, could you fix things, or would it wait until tomorrow? | 20:45 |
| ParaSa1lin | id fix tonight | 20:46 |
| @kanzure | wtf are you using urllib for :P | 20:46 |
| @kanzure | ParaSa1lin: pm | 20:46 |
| ParaSa1lin | what would you use to turn "/" into "%2F" | 20:46 |
| @kanzure | requests.utils.something | 20:47 |
| @kanzure | but please check the pm | 20:47 |
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| ParaSa1lin | hm pm to this one, not the other one | 20:47 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=a9e4e0ce U-ACORNSYS\pwang: More control logic | 20:48 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=8e1d4331 U-ACORNSYS\pwang: Redundancy | 20:48 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=5a4ffd20 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #25 from rcallahan/master | 20:48 |
| gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 20:48 |
| ParaSa1lin | paperbot: reload scihub | 20:49 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=7ebf01ca Bryan Bishop: fix syntax error | 20:51 |
| gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 20:51 |
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| @kanzure | okay nevermind.. test away. | 20:54 |
| ParaSa1lin | paperbot, http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v5/n10/full/nnano.2010.193.html | 20:55 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnnano.2010.193 | 20:55 |
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| @kanzure | ParaSa1lin: why is that pointing to libgen now? | 21:01 |
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| ParaSa1lin | i think better to use libgen for public urls? | 21:02 |
| ParaSa1lin | so then you dont get takedown messages from copyright trolls | 21:02 |
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| jonathan_ | tito has a blog post about getting papers, did you see | 21:20 |
| jonathan_ | using reddit as a request/share medium | 21:20 |
| jonathan_ | http://titojankowski.com/free-journal-articles/ | 21:21 |
| paperbot | NameError: global name 'pdfurl' is not defined (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 157, in download) | 21:21 |
| @kanzure | jonathan_: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/article | 21:24 |
| @kanzure | oops | 21:24 |
| @kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/articles | 21:24 |
| paperbot | NameError: global name 'pdfurl' is not defined (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 157, in download) | 21:24 |
| @kanzure | jonathan_: i really doubt tito has this level of thoroughness | 21:24 |
| @kanzure | also i think ybit has the most experience using r/scholar since he requested like 50 papers at once | 21:24 |
| @kanzure | and out of that entire fucking subreddit i was the only one to deliver the majority of his request -_- | 21:24 |
| jonathan_ | :-( | 21:25 |
| jonathan_ | poor tito | 21:25 |
| @kanzure | tito even knows about my list of other options | 21:25 |
| @kanzure | i fucking emailed it to him! | 21:25 |
| @kanzure | what an asshole | 21:25 |
| jonathan_ | using reddit is quite a bit of publicity tho aint it | 21:25 |
| @kanzure | reddit.com/r/scholar has been around for a long time before tito | 21:26 |
| @kanzure | didn't know about the deepdyve 5 minute rental, but it is broken because they only transmit pngs of each page | 21:26 |
| @kanzure | ParahSai1in: can you bugfix the bug? | 21:26 |
| @kanzure | ParaSa1lin: i mean you | 21:26 |
| @kanzure | jonathan_: did you look at http://diyhpl.us/wiki/articles though? | 21:29 |
| jonathan_ | just did ya | 21:30 |
| @kanzure | i find http://expaper.cn/ to be an interesting option | 21:30 |
| @kanzure | the downside is that you have to learn chinese | 21:30 |
| @kanzure | oh wait that's the upside | 21:30 |
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| @kanzure | delinquentme: you want pdfparanoia, https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia | 21:30 |
| jonathan_ | learning chinese is impossible even for the chinese | 21:30 |
| delinquentme | chemistry paper which made a stir about 6 months ago using 3d printing to organize different chemistry vessle designs? | 21:31 |
| @kanzure | jonathan_: yeah, online they just copy/paste the same phrases | 21:31 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: was it jordan's work? | 21:31 |
| delinquentme | yeah! thanks kanzure I got the email ... is that just meta data? Or would it grab data which is say ... present on the page | 21:31 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, nah it wasn't vasculiture | 21:31 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: it removes the text watermarks | 21:31 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: like ip addresses, names, institution names, etc. | 21:31 |
| delinquentme | vassles as in ... the container which you'd run reactions in | 21:32 |
| delinquentme | check! kanzure | 21:32 |
| delinquentme | sudo python setup.py install << seems incomplete | 21:33 |
| gradstudentbot | Future work will focus on that. | 21:34 |
| delinquentme | error: https://gist.github.com/delinquentme/bcf4e229c593fe395a2d | 21:34 |
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| @kanzure | darn, i thought that was fixed | 21:35 |
| delinquentme | is it hard to get something approved for install via pip? | 21:36 |
| @kanzure | no, i just have to fix the bug | 21:36 |
| delinquentme | ( or is there even an approval process ? ) | 21:36 |
| @kanzure | if you can fix it, i will push it | 21:36 |
| @kanzure | but i'm about to sleep | 21:36 |
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| delinquentme | Successfully installed pdfparanoia | 21:37 |
| @kanzure | you have to install pdfminer | 21:37 |
| @kanzure | but setup.py has it in install_requires | 21:37 |
| delinquentme | kk | 21:37 |
| @kanzure | if you fix it let me know and submit a pull request | 21:38 |
| @kanzure | or open a bug report | 21:38 |
| @kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues | 21:38 |
| paperbot | NameError: global name 'pdfurl' is not defined (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 157, in download) | 21:38 |
| delinquentme | no mas hardcore forking action =[ | 21:38 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, yeah Ill do a pull request | 21:39 |
| gradstudentbot | I could never be a PI. | 21:39 |
| ParaSa1lin | sorry im back | 21:54 |
| ParaSa1lin | pull request | 21:58 |
| ParaSa1lin | i guess i shouldnt attempt any patches when wife is home, because constant harassment isn't good for my focus | 22:00 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, a test document would be awesome | 22:45 |
| delinquentme | turns out you're writing individual classes per document type ... I have a ruby programming guide which I wanted to clean :D not ... say a ieee paper :D | 22:45 |
| ParaSa1lin | ? | 22:53 |
| heath | anyone up? | 23:11 |
| heath | this starts streaming in ~1h 45m | 23:12 |
| heath | http://sb6.biobricks.org/ | 23:12 |
| paperbot | NameError: global name 'pdfurl' is not defined (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 157, in download) | 23:12 |
| heath | just wondering if anyone has the capability to record it | 23:13 |
| heath | s/just// | 23:13 |
| @kanzure | just give the url for the real thing if you want someone to record it | 23:32 |
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| @kanzure | delinquentme: merged https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/pull/31 | 23:43 |
| @kanzure | delinquentme: also it's up on pypi now https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pdfparanoia/0.0.14 | 23:43 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, did you check the functionality? | 23:44 |
| @kanzure | "It would also be helpful to have a test PDF within the package to verify functionality." | 23:45 |
| @kanzure | there are unit tests yo | 23:45 |
| delinquentme | ohhhh | 23:45 |
| @kanzure | "make tests" | 23:45 |
| gradstudentbot | Is there free food at that seminar? | 23:45 |
| @kanzure | all of the tests are failing | 23:46 |
| @kanzure | oh wait that was my fault | 23:46 |
| @kanzure | i forgot to install nosetest. so of course the "test" target was failing. | 23:47 |
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| delinquentme | check! | 23:48 |
| gradstudentbot | I just want a 9 to 5 job. | 23:48 |
| delinquentme | im out though .. sleeps! | 23:48 |
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| @kanzure | i pushed some more pdfparanoia junk in case anyone cares | 23:49 |
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| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=327b39c0 U-ACORNSYS\pwang: s/pdfurl/shurl/g | 23:52 |
| gnusha | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=f69583d4 Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #26 from rcallahan/master | 23:52 |
| paperbot | NameError: global name 'pdfurl' is not defined (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 157, in download) | 23:52 |
| gnusha | paperbot: reload papers | 23:52 |
| paperbot | ... | 23:52 |
| paperbot | gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-07-09 06:52:44) | 23:52 |
| @kanzure | hmm why did paperbot send "..."? | 23:53 |
| @kanzure | that sequence isn't even in the source code | 23:54 |
| heath | http://new.livestream.com/accounts/4259870/events/2237387 | 23:57 |
| paperbot | UnboundLocalError: local variable 'shurl' referenced before assignment (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 157, in download) | 23:57 |
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