2013-07-21.log

--- Log opened Sun Jul 21 00:00:32 2013
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juri_Eric: fun.02:15
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@fennstill unclear on exactly what Rev-erb does, any ideas? http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/exercise-in-a-pill-the-search-continues/ http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nm.3213.html04:01
@fennpaperbot: http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nm.3213.html04:02
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnm.321304:02
@fenni liked the old paperbot that actually got the document for me04:05
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@kanzurefenn: what would you prefer specifically?07:42
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ParahSail1nold paperbot did not get nature.com so theres that08:11
ParahSail1npaperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1038%2Fnm.321308:13
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e67c19d754fdfa76ea0777cb3d1ec7f1.txt08:13
ParahSail1npaperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1038%2Fnm.321308:14
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a80db069720d9af9e1b1b7d69a51afe3.txt08:14
@kanzureold paperbot always got nature (mostly..)08:15
@kanzureemachineshop ceo (jim lewis) is now following FakeEliezer on twitter. i thought that was interesting.08:15
@kanzureoh shit. i guess i haven't revealed that i'm FakeEliezer before.08:15
ParahSail1nthats an odd novelty account08:16
@kanzure:(08:16
gradstudentbotYou know, I hear you make more money being a garbage man.08:16
ParahSail1npretty convincing actually08:17
ParahSail1nat least EY is a pretty good fiction writer08:19
@kanzurepony magic fanfic? no thanks.08:19
ParahSail1nthats about all the praise i could give him08:19
ParahSail1nno ponies in hpmor08:19
@kanzureParahSail1n: what's stopping us from doing that paper stuff08:25
@kanzureParahSail1n: why haven't we done that ye t?08:25
@kanzure*yet ?08:25
ParahSail1ni was in chicago for the last three days08:26
@kanzurewhat if we make it a membership thing, unlimited access for 0.10 btc/month?08:26
ParahSail1nmight be a good way to do it, people seem psychologically averse to micropayments for small goods and services08:27
@fennthe libgen url is blank; it stops loading at the <body> tag08:33
@kanzurefenn: could you maybe fix paperbot? it also needs some maintenance work done to separate the phenny parts from the actual paperbot parts. and then a lot of code needs to be deleted.08:34
@fenni'm not promising anything, but i'll poke at it08:35
@kanzurealso feel free to make angry remarks disguised as code review08:35
@fennrawr this code is too elegant08:36
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* fenn sleeps08:39
@kanzureelegant is not the word i would use08:39
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@kanzure.title http://www.saurik.com/id/1708:45
yoleauxExploit (& Fix) Android "Master Key" - Jay Freeman (saurik)08:45
@kanzurehilarious "If you thereby take an existing APK file and add a new entry to the zip file for "classes.dex" that comes before the one that is already in the APK, it will continue to verify correctly (as the second instance of the entry will be used by the verifier) but the modified file will be loaded by the VM (as it comes first)."08:48
@kanzuresaurik: i dunno if you care but for the android binary xml format you might find this useful, https://github.com/kanzure/axmlparserpy08:53
@kanzurei haven't really investigated how breakable this format is08:54
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jonathan_cant believe I didnt start listening to Otep sooner08:58
@kanzurei can't tell if you are being sarcastic09:03
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@kanzureyashgaroth: sup09:06
yashgarothsame old09:06
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heathhttp://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/7.3528.1332512425!/image/HI-RES%20B2201377-Tongue_bacteria%2C_SEM-SPL.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_300/HI-RES%20B2201377-Tongue_bacteria%2C_SEM-SPL.jpg09:46
heath"The genetic codes of microbes in the human body, such as these tongue bacteria (seen in a coloured scanning electron micrograph) could be the key to more accurate diagnosis."09:46
* heath is wondering if this SEM or artistic interpretation09:47
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heathSEM09:47
heathby this guy: http://www.theworldcloseup.com/09:47
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nmz787so the synthego guys said they're not even looking to make genes13:02
nmz787only oligos cheaper13:02
nmz787and that they generally are working on a mixed macro/micro fluid handling platform that will generalize to many lab protocols13:03
nmz787and doing DNA for a way to make money initially13:03
nmz787said $1 billion oligo market, $0.1 billion gene market13:04
nmz787but i didn't figure out if they have any secret sauce, or if they're just making microfluidic DNA synthesis a commercial thing13:04
nmz787i also don't know if they plan to sell oligos, or the machine that makes them13:05
gradstudentbotNo no no no! Use your key commands!13:05
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rigelholy fuck is canonical ever shitting the bed with this forum issue13:18
rigelyes, ok, notify everyone of the breach, that's fine, but people still rely on those forums to solve problems, problems that do not go away just because your website security was shit13:18
nmz787rigel: what happened?13:21
nmz787ubuntu answers have been deleted?13:21
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rigelnmz787: canonical took the whole ubuntuforums site down to put up a "breach, change ur password" page13:21
chris_99does anyone know how they create the photomask for modern chips?13:23
chris_99like do they use a laser?13:24
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nmz787chris_99: electron beam ablation13:34
nmz787or laser13:34
nmz787called stereolithography13:34
nmz787but e-beam is way finer res13:34
chris_99aha cheers, so both don't need a lens?13:34
nmz787way smaller features13:34
chris_99or i gues the laser does13:34
nmz787you can use a lens to reduce it13:35
nmz787the mask13:35
nmz787mask reducer13:35
nmz787or you can do contact lithography13:35
nmz787where you place the mask almost touching the photoresist on your wafer13:35
chris_99what do the electrons do re. the mask?13:35
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jrayhawk_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFhc8R_uO413:58
jrayhawk_"Indistinguishable From Magic: Manufacturing Modern Computer Chips"13:58
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chris_99thanks!14:08
nmz787chris_99: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Scientific.American.Special.Edition.1997-12_Solid_State_Century.pdf14:11
nmz787just pages 49-54 of the pdf (the article pages are 56-61, but the14:11
nmz787computer will print using the other page numbers)14:11
nmz787(well the whole mag is good, but that article is a great intro)14:12
kanzurebrownies: "It'd be nice if there was a machineable way to test UI in varying browsers. Litmus.com gets close, but it's only for emails, and "all" it does is render the emails in like 40 different clients (which is actually amazing)." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607984714:14
kanzurebrownies: whoever did that is crazy14:14
gradstudentbotI don't think my PI remembers me.14:16
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ParahSail1nwow, 126.com allows 3 GB of attachments to emails17:10
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heath.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdKyf8fsH6w18:03
yoleauxRalph Merkle - An introduction to Molecular Nanotechnology - YouTube18:03
heathAmanda Davis 1 year ago18:03
heathI'M GOING TO MAJOR IN THIS!!! SUPER EXCITED :D18:03
heathi wonder what college she's going to :)18:03
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yashgaroth_paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00232-013-9580-518:47
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paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1007%2Fs00232-013-9580-518:47
yashgarothpaperbot: http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2Fs00232-013-9580-5.pdf18:50
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/eee14f15f8adb3169ae849f914dcf.pdf18:50
yashgaroththanks paperbot18:50
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kanzurei think that's another case of paperbot succeeding where libgen/scihub fails19:10
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abetuskDoes that Ralph Merkle video get any better?19:47
abetuskok, I can't stand it19:49
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kanzureabetusk: :)19:53
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heathspreelanka...20:47
heathspreelanka!20:47
heathin ##hplusroadmap, rearry?20:47
spreelankaYEA20:47
kanzure?20:48
heath^5 sir20:48
heathspreelanka = jacob hudson20:48
spreelankai'm just lurking or something20:48
heathfriend of mine20:48
spreelankafucking outed20:48
spreelankayou are worse than the NSA heath20:48
spreelanka:-p20:48
* heath sleeps20:48
kanzurei think technically i'm the one that carries that particular distinction20:49
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