2013-08-30.log

--- Log opened Fri Aug 30 00:00:10 2013
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superkuhpaperbot: http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/200/200ra115.full03:23
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.300637303:23
superkuhpaperbot: http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/200/200ra115.full03:23
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.300637303:23
superkuhpaperbot: http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/5/200/200ra115.full03:23
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.300637303:23
superkuhHm. Okay. I thought it might still be one of those non-deterministic response things.03:24
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poppingtonicpaperbot: http://www.genetics.org/cgi/reprint/28/6/49106:18
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c6b57c7665d7322429ea01ad63f6444e.pdf06:18
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ParaSa1linpaperbot, http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6149/976.abstract06:50
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.123804106:50
ParaSa1linpaperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1126%2Fscience.123804106:51
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Poverty%20Impedes%20Cognitive%20Function.pdf06:52
ParaSa1linpaperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.300637306:52
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/474b090480289a057bd84418f25764ff.txt06:53
ParaSa1linpaperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1126%2Fscitranslmed.300637306:53
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f88a92ab884051777238f981e4deb91c.txt06:53
gradstudentbotThe paper got rejected.06:55
poppingtonicOn the poverty+cognitive-performance paper: "Put simply, the laboratory07:10
poppingtonicstudy, although illustrating the mechanism, does07:10
poppingtonicnot show its relevance in natural settings.07:10
poppingtonic"07:10
ParaSa1linpaperbot, http://www.frontiersin.org/Experimental_Pharmacology_and_Drug_Discovery/10.3389/fphar.2013.00104/full07:23
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Flavonol-rich%20dark%20cocoa%20significantly%20decreases%20plasma%20endothelin-1%20and%20improves%20cognition%20in%20urban%20children.pdf07:24
kanzurewhy are ROVs/underwater machines always operated by tether? why not drop some submersible relays or something?08:01
kanzureif google gets the air for their balloons then i get the sea for cucumber wifi08:01
ParahSailinROV?08:29
ParahSailinremote orbital vessel?08:29
kanzuresubmersible vehicles are called ROVs for some reason08:30
ParahSailinah remote operated vehicle08:31
ParahSailini think they might be operated by tether because water is strong attenuator of EM radiation08:31
kanzureyes, but it's not impossible to send a signal through water08:31
kanzureif the problem is that you can't transmit from the surface to the bottom of the ocean then why not just signal to halfway or half of halfway?08:32
ParahSailinwell, remember all those frequencies we use for cell phones? those are the same ones we use for MRI or nuking food08:32
ParahSailinthey are very strongly absorbed by water08:32
ParahSailinmilitary submarines use very long wavelength radio for that reason08:33
kanzureyou could also have your halfway relay node things use tethers to communicate with each other, and then the last mile (probably significantly less than a mile) can be a transmitter08:33
kanzureoh wait, is this one of those things where people would happily use long wavelengths but the FCC tells them not to?08:34
kanzurei mean it's the ocean, who gives a fuck about the FCC?08:34
ParahSailin"VLF radio waves (3–30 kHz) can penetrate seawater to a depth of approximately 20 meters."08:34
kanzurewell okay then08:36
ParahSailinif you build a huge transmitter, you can transmit ELF (3-300 Hz) radio to your ROV08:37
ParahSailinbut thats one way comm only08:37
ParahSailinyou can penetrate hundreds of meters with ELF08:38
saturn2maybe the us navy would be upset rather than the fcc09:00
ParahSailinnah, there are lots of different ELF bands, no chance of interference09:02
chris_99maybe you could use ULF09:50
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poppingtonicgradstudentbot: oy!10:47
gradstudentbotSorry, I can't really talk right now because I'm burried in grant writing.10:47
kanzureugh this is just not friendly https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/pull/173/commits11:07
kanzurehe's had a whole week to submit pull requests11:07
kanzureand he just lands all this at once11:07
kanzurehow am i supposed to review all these?11:07
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heathwtf, he should know better, is he doing for spite?12:49
heath+this12:49
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nmz787so i shined a 405nm laser into the light entrance of the DLP projector the other day and saw a nice image... so I'm gonna try exposing some photoresists13:36
kanzurenmz787: got your email, thanks for the reminder13:43
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nmz787just talked to genentech's funding dept14:28
nmz787and emailed School Factory about 501c)3 umbrella14:29
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kanzurewhat did genentech say?14:30
kanzureless interested in school factory14:30
poppingtonicare you looking for funding for a project? (not that I can provide, I'm just curious :] )14:30
kanzurehe's working on some dna synthesis equipment14:31
kanzureit turns out hard to figure out the right thing to work on for a given chunk of money14:31
nmz787well genentech would probably be for diybio teaching money14:40
nmz787k-12 specifically14:40
nmz787they have pretty specific terms14:40
nmz787http://www.gene.com/good/grants-giving14:40
nmz787even a science project (non philanthropic) has to be a 501(c)314:41
nmz787they could also be an indian tribe14:42
ParahSailinscience project could be an indian tribe?14:42
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chris_99how hard is it to make a microfluidic logic gate, like is it a case of acid etching two pieces of glass/plastic somehow?14:50
kanzureyou need valves14:53
chris_99for the input to the gates you mean?14:54
kanzureno. a gate is compromised of transistors in electronics. in microfluidics you need valves.14:57
kanzurewell, you need a certain arrangement of valves.14:57
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gradstudentbotAre there any of those hamster ovaries left?15:00
chris_99is a valve something which opens/closes like a solenoid the microfluidics wiki page doesn't really explain them15:04
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kanzurechris_99: microfluidics are just like macro fluidics (hahah). you have a pipe with a liquid flowing through it. now what?15:13
chris_99oh right so it's just the pathway15:14
kanzure(the laughter is because laminar flow is very different)15:14
chris_99so i was thinking how hard it'd be to mix colours from an inkjet printer15:15
gradstudentbotArgh, what do you mean you don't accept LaTeX submissions??15:15
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chris_99http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxpQyqoukpc looks very impressive15:23
chris_99.title15:23
yoleauxProgrammable large area digital microfluidic array with integrated droplet sensing for bioassays - YouTube15:23
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nmz787chris_99: digital microfluidics is different yet15:34
chris_99so apparently that uses electrowetting right? does that work with any liquid or only specific ones15:36
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nmz787kanzure: yeah I was looking at the 2 channel scopes, they're $329 from Rigol's site, but realistically it's hard to sync 2 2-channel scopes to each other16:22
nmz787s/hard/messy/16:23
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nmz787cory tobin is a prof now19:34
kanzurethat sucks, he could have done so many other things instead.19:38
kanzurewhat is it? an associate professorship or assistant professorship?19:38
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nmz787 dunno19:45
nmz787being a prof could be really sweet actually19:45
kanzuresequestration means there's basically no grant money19:45
kanzureunless he is better than all the other professors in all the other age brackets (who have had projects boiling for multiple decades)19:45
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n_benthakanzure: what would u have done (other than being a prof)?20:21
kanzureworked on my own projects20:21
kanzurewhich is what he was doing20:21
kanzurebut now he's beholden to grant deadlines and other crap20:21
kanzureit's just unnecessary interference for not much gain20:22
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