2013-09-17.log

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kanzurebrlcad/python wrappers coming along nicely00:11
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paskypaperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nmeth.2637.html04:24
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnmeth.263704:24
paskyhmm that link is weird, it returns just 206 Partial content04:27
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poppingtonicpaperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/05:39
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/554773dc1608d215f9289fe06d475ab8.txt05:39
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poppingtonicping06:15
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paskypoppingtonic: that won't be too helpful though, will it?07:00
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heathhttps://github.com/stephencelis/ghi07:35
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kyknospaperbot, http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nmeth.2637.html08:37
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnmeth.263708:37
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kanzurekyknos: hi08:40
kanzureJenda`: don't i know you too08:40
kanzurewait you're all from that hacker country08:40
Jenda`kanzure: I'm from the same hackerspace as pasky and chido are :)08:41
Jenda`and kyknos too08:41
kyknoskanzure, hi08:41
paskyI've mentioned the channel on our biolab channel :)08:42
paskyand yay, paperbot or rather libgen got its act together now \o/08:42
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kyknosseems like an interesting place08:52
blueskin>that hacker country08:55
blueskindefine?08:55
kanzureczech republic08:58
poppingtonicMr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong09:03
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nalkripoppingtonic: Diamond Age?09:14
ananniepaperbot: http://lawfam.oxfordjournals.org/content/12/3/307.short09:38
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1093%2Flawfam%2F12.3.30709:38
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* brownies pokes gradstudentbot 10:11
gradstudentbotWhy aren't you doing science right now?10:11
kanzurehttp://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/10/every-day-i-learn-something-new-and-stupid/10:11
kanzurejavascript doesn't have ints10:11
ParahSai1inbut thats ok, since ints up to 2^51 or something can be represented as doubles10:20
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ParahSai1inwhat the hell? ncbi's standard format for sequence reads is specified only by their SRA toolkit source code?11:18
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ParahSai1inwow, "Guys from NCBI said me that they don't give this documentation anybody. And if you want to use the SRA format then you need to use their API."11:19
ParahSai1inthe program to convert this .sra file to fastq is hideously slow11:19
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kanzurehaha11:20
kanzuregreat11:20
ParahSai1infor comparison, extraction to fastq from .sra is about 50x slower than BWA mapping11:20
ParahSai1inwhich makes it about 1000x slower than gunzip11:20
kanzuretime to write a paper.. i mean a haskell thing.11:20
ParahSai1inwhat, reverse engineer sra format?11:21
kanzuresome alternative11:21
ParahSai1inhttp://seqanswers.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-12054.html11:22
ParahSai1inand apparently this file format is unsupported now because of budget cuts11:23
ParahSai1inbut it is the required submission format11:23
gradstudentbotWow, I'm definitely not including this data in the paper.11:24
ParahSai1inkanzure: there is an alternative, fastq.gz or bam11:28
ParahSai1inpaperbot: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.005919011:30
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/601fca0556ee72dd6ab1e27fcd9292a8.txt11:30
kanzurewow it's failing on plosone11:32
kanzurewhat the hell?11:32
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entelechioshttp://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0059190&representation=PDF11:41
entelechiosseems they switched their stuff around a bit11:41
entelechiosfrom what i recall11:41
kanzurei haven't updated zotero-translators in paperbot in a while, so maybe it's time for a version bump11:42
kanzurehttps://github.com/blog/1633-3d-file-diffs11:46
kanzure"Also available is the revision slider, which lets you transition between the current version of the file, and the previous one with a small slider at the top of the viewer."11:47
entelechiospaperbot: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000334721300306011:47
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bf49990e17829815d3546392e321c769.pdf11:47
kanzure"This is done using csgtool, a C library paired with a Ruby gem via FFI."11:47
entelechiosMetabolic rate and body size are linked with perception of temporal11:47
entelechiosinformation11:47
kanzurehttps://github.com/sshirokov/csgtool11:47
entelechios(smaller you are the slower you perceive time)11:47
kanzurehttps://help.github.com/articles/3d-file-viewer11:47
kanzuretakes a while for their stl pages to load though11:48
kanzurehttps://github.com/carlosgs/Cyclone-PCB-Factory/commit/d389a67ab2cc1d63ec1a38f5e60f20e2f964324711:48
entelechioswow that CAD diff stuff is awesome11:48
ParahSai1inplosone is not though zotero11:49
kanzurezotero must have a plosone scraper, there's no way they skipped that11:50
gradstudentbotSomeone's sitting at my bench space.11:50
entelechiosi'm incredibly surprised at how performant this is on firefox in linux11:51
entelechiosa lotta 3d crap in the browser will crash for me in these circumstances11:51
entelechiosbut this is running more smoothly than, like, standalone programs such as structure synth on this crappy box11:51
kanzurei think this might be the one that is just a bunch of png files they generate11:52
entelechiosyes11:52
entelechioseg11:52
entelechiosnot pasting that oh god11:52
entelechiosthat's an entire base64 or w/e encoded PNG in my address bar there11:52
entelechioshahahahaha11:52
entelechiosdata:image/png;base64,11:53
entelechiosand then the encoded png11:53
entelechioswhen i view image11:53
entelechiosthat's still pretty impressive rendering11:53
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entelechiosoften i gotta bust out chromium to get 3d stuff working proper in the browser11:54
kanzurehttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=640089511:56
kanzurehttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=551967611:56
entelechiosah so you suggested this ages ago?11:57
entelechiosright on11:57
kanzurei built it ages ago and then i stopped caring11:57
kanzurecommitting stl files to a git repo is a sin, it's like committing build objcets11:57
kanzure*objects11:58
entelechiossomeone else pick up on your work then?11:58
kanzurenah, lots of people doing similar things11:58
entelechiosoh yeah i couldn't picture that repo staying small.11:58
entelechiospeople toss around gajiggabytes like pinata candy11:58
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ParahSai1in"2013-09-17T19:30:05 fastq-dump.2.3.3 err: table incorrect while opening manager within database module - failed /data2/NCBI-SRA/sra/sra-instant/reads/ByExp/sra/ERX/ERX171/ERX171672/ERR196983/ERR196983.sra"13:04
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ParahSai1inwhat? a bug in an undocumented file format and toolkit api for it?13:05
ParahSai1inwho would have ever guessed13:05
jrayhawkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oie1ZXWceqM13:06
jrayhawk!title13:06
jrayhawkfffff13:06
kanzure.title13:12
yoleaux3-Sweep: Extracting Editable Objects from a Single Photo, SIGGRAPH ASIA 2013 - YouTube13:12
jrayhawkthat's the one13:12
jrayhawktechnology is hard13:12
kanzurethat's okay hawkbot you will understand computers eventually13:12
entelechiosthat's so cool jrayhawk13:47
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poppingtonicnalkri: No. Snow Crash.14:30
nalkriOh right, close14:30
poppingtonicpaperbot: http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v7/n5/full/nphys1915.html14:32
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnphys191514:32
poppingtonicI'd forgotten all of the Phyles in The Diamond Age at the time, unfortunately. The Diamond Age came off as the book with better quality hackers imo.14:40
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heathhttps://github.com/s-macke/jor1k :: "jor1k is a OpenRISC 1000 emulator written in JavaScript running Linux"15:28
soylentbombAwesome.15:28
heathhttp://s-macke.github.io/jor1k/15:29
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heathis there a book i can read while i'm on the beach that will actually help me with android/java/smali stuff?23:30
* heath already has most of the online references in pdf on his kindle dx23:31
heathonline references for smali and dex23:32
justanotheruser1.paperbot http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x/pdf23:33
justanotheruser1.paper http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x/pdf23:33
justanotheruser1paperbot:23:33
justanotheruser1paperbot help23:33
heathi've got about another hour or two to queue up material before the lappy is stored securely in a secret little compartment away from me for ~1+week(s)23:33
justanotheruser1heath: do you know how to work paperbot23:34
heathleave out the peroid23:34
heathor just add the link23:34
heathe.g.23:34
heathpaperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x/pdf23:34
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag2/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x.pdf23:34
justanotheruser1paperbot http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x/pdf23:35
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag2/10.1111/j.1745-9125.2003.tb01013.x.pdf23:35
justanotheruser1ok thanks23:35
heathyw23:35
justanotheruser1can paperbot ever not find it23:35
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heathjustanotheruser1: yes23:37
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