2013-09-26.log

--- Log opened Thu Sep 26 00:00:36 2013
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nmz787what's the old cartoon where a car or train is travelling on a hilly path in a side-scrolling manner, and the wheels go up and down but train stays level?01:33
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EnLilaSkopaperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02931273?no-access=true08:34
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag2/10.1007/BF02931273.pdf08:34
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kanzureso much for pwm control of vibration strength http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/14608:42
kanzureoh wait, someone mentioned it.08:42
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px12is there a way to make the cannabinoid receptors more reactive to THC? I mean.. I want to lower my THC tolerance fast.. so.. is there a way?08:49
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ParahSailinheh, secret limits to <input> vs <textarea>09:38
ParahSailinjquery .val() on an input truncates a string at like 680 something whereas textarea does not09:39
ParahSailin680k something i mean09:39
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kanzureyeah, a long time ago <input> had a much lower limit (like <500) across a few browsers09:46
kanzureso you would have to style a <textarea> to make it look like an <input>09:46
kanzurecss gangstas for life09:46
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ParahSailinwhy do i have to do shitty hax like making invisible forms and http post submit with them to download files10:07
kanzurewriting css/javascript is like a perpetual hazing ritual, yeah10:08
ParahSailinmy shit worked for a while using that input text tag, then the data started getting bigger and suddenly everything mysteriously breaks10:09
kanzurewhy are you inserting that much data in an <input>?10:17
ParahSailini have lots of data as local javascript objects that i serialize and post to server10:18
ParahSailinif i do it as ajax, i cant make a file download easily from the response10:18
kanzureiframe document.location = base64 url encoded data10:19
kanzurebut also you can make the server return specific headers to make a file download box appear10:19
kanzureif you have that much data you're sending to the server then i recommend using websockets instead10:19
ParahSailinthats why i do it as a server thing, so i can control the headers10:19
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kanzureParahSailin: you might also consider doing something crazy like, emailing it to them instead10:20
ParahSailinheh thats not really the UX im going for10:20
kanzurecubehero is doing openscad rendering now https://cubehero.com/physibles/iamwil/kings_gambit10:20
kanzure(haha he has to have an xserver)10:21
kanzureParahSailin: if you're willing to use flash, there's lots of things you can use to make client-side file download stuff10:22
ParahSailinyeah i saw that one10:24
ParahSailinick10:24
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jrayhawkbkero: hah, phoronix didn't even mention the most striking part of that talk11:05
jrayhawkwhich was the zero traction he got from anyone in the audience on what was supposed to be a friendly collaborative talk11:05
jrayhawkbecause his parent organization is insane11:05
jrayhawknice guy, though. he helped me with the gstreamer setup.11:06
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bkerojrayhawk: wow11:17
bkeroeverybody just shunned all the mir stuff?11:17
jrayhawkPretty much.11:19
kanzurewhat is the parent org?11:20
jrayhawkCanonical.11:20
jrayhawkWho have a long history of political insanity and community abuse. http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/26254.html http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2013/04/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html11:24
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nmz787ParahSailin: have you considered an XHR with FormData attached and your data in there?11:58
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ParahSailinyes obviously the normal thing is the first thing you try12:22
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nmz787ParahSailin: i use that for big binary file uploads, can't you just upload the text as a .txt file12:40
nmz787?12:40
nmz787binary12:40
ParahSailinthis is part of a very complicated browser app12:41
ParahSailininvolves quite a bit of local (browser environment) state12:44
nmz787ParahSailin: for the ajax attempts, did you change the header to something other than text/html? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/186867/what-content-type-to-force-download-of-text-response13:00
ParahSailinajax will only put data back to the javascript environment13:02
nmz787hidden iframe?13:12
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ParahSailinhow does that pop open a download box13:14
nmz787should do it based on content type13:18
nmz787if you submit the data from the iframe13:18
nmz787rather than use XHR13:18
ParahSailinwhat13:19
nmz787hmm?13:22
nmz787you said you're trying to download data programmatically13:23
nmz787i thought13:23
nmz787but have the 'accept download' box pop up?13:23
nmz787bbl13:23
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heathwhile kanzure considers how to play through pokemon games faster..15:31
* heath considers how to rick roll more effectively15:32
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superkuhpaperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6153/1238670.full.pdf16:00
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c629044fa8cdd208133b4ab704d7be.pdf16:01
superkuhpaperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6153/1238932.full.pdf16:03
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ec751adaa3a1a2080d1d43f105d2d0fe.pdf16:03
superkuhpaperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6153/1238937.full.pdf16:04
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f3b81b8f396bb5f871aa6fcca71fda68.pdf16:05
superkuhpaperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6153/1239463.full.pdf16:06
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/20b57d2e1189e5288e5011135b2d97dc.pdf16:06
superkuhpaperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6153/1239505.full.pdf16:07
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/536d852c1ca395f5a51529a3f680fd08.pdf16:07
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heathhttp://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6153/1239505.full.pdf16:53
* heath was simply testing, nothing to see16:54
nmz787superkuh: seems like the terrestrial origin of the SAMs derizitization experiment solvents contaminated most of the GC experiments in that water paper16:57
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heathi didn't know smari has his hand in mailpile17:09
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kanzureheath: smari is everywhere, in weird and bizarre places17:23
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kanzure.title http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=143018:06
kanzureyoleaux: .help18:07
kanzurewell anyway, nasa paywalling the first paper from the curiosity rover data18:08
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superkuhLuckily I had paperbot to save me.18:45
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kanzure"If you take a folder with an .egg extension and make a zipfile of it's content and give it the same name as the original folder everything still worked. What was this madness? It's jar files for Python. Why does this work? It works because Python has a default import hook that checks for each file on sys.path if it's a zipfile. If it is, it activates the zip importer and imports from within the zipfile. Due to how zipfiles are structured ...20:02
kanzure... that's actually a very speedy operation."20:02
kanzurethis seems like a possible vulnerability, but i can't think of any locked-down system that uses python extensively20:02
kanzurei don't know why python packaging sucks so much http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2012/6/22/hate-hate-hate-everywhere/20:08
kanzured3vz3r0: http://www.buildout.org/en/latest/ because http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2012/6/22/hate-hate-hate-everywhere/ (pip stuff)20:10
kanzureoops20:10
kanzure"NOTE: We reference the parent class' run method directly - we can't use super(...).run(self), because setuptools commands are old-style Python classes and super() does not support them." wtf20:41
kanzurethat's on http://www.niteoweb.com/blog/setuptools-run-custom-code-during-install20:41
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justanotheruserpaperbot: http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?collection=journals&handle=hein.journals/ohslj59&div=32&id=&page=21:59
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8efcc835108119abed7eda8d3af58762.txt21:59
justanotheruserWhat does it mean when it gives me this .txt file21:59
kanzureit's debug output21:59
kanzureit couldn't find a pdf so it just gives you html prior to the pdf21:59
justanotheruserOh, I thought it was html saved as .txt for some reason21:59
kanzureit is html22:00
kanzureit is very limited debug data :)22:00
justanotheruseroh, why isn't it saved as .html so it is displayed in my browser properly?22:00
kanzurebecause that's almost never useful22:00
kanzureyou should look at the html and find the pdf link and give it to paperbot22:00
kanzureand then paperbot can try again. it might fail again, but then you know it's a paywall failure, and not a "failed to parse the html for the pdf" failure.22:01
justanotheruserpaperbot: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/00346530231733190022:02
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1162%2F00346530231733189222:02
justanotheruserkanzure: does paperbot use your journal access?22:02
ParahSail1nthats proprietary information22:02
kanzureit's a little more complicated and i'd rather not say22:02
kanzurebut here's the source code, https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot22:03
justanotheruserok thanks22:04
justanotheruserpaperbot: http://qje.oxfordjournals.org/content/107/2/511.short22:06
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.2307%2F211848022:06
justanotheruserpaperbot: http://soe.sagepub.com/content/78/4/294.short22:08
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1177%2F00380407050780040222:08
justanotheruserI'm surprised more people don't come here just for paperbot22:08
kanzurewell, paperbot activity has been up lately compared to other activity22:09
kanzurei don't want paperbot activity to reduce other activities22:09
kanzurebut paperbot is necessary for most of our work anyway22:09
ParahSail1nwe keep paperbot broken in subtle ways to discourage that sort of thing22:12
kanzurethanks for the cover22:15
justanotheruserpaperbot: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40040209?uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=2110268691115722:18
justanotheruser:(22:19
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20Systemic%20Analysis%20of%20Affirmative%20Action%20in%20American%20Law%20Schools.pdf22:19
nmz787kanzure: can you find the hour and minute that michael eisen post was made?22:33
nmz787cause it happened here at 16:00 Pacific22:33
kanzurei don't have ideas for where to look?22:34
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nmz787the link you posted23:03
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kanzuremore setuptools madness :( http://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2009/eby-magic/23:28
kanzureso the keyword is called install_requires but it installs the requirements after installation23:33
kanzurethis is infuriating :(23:33
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kanzureaha... setup_requires.23:39
kanzurecool, it actually works. and it removes the dependencies specified in setup_requires once setup.py is done.23:51
kanzureso now python-brlcad will generate itself via https://github.com/kanzure/ctypesgen at install-time23:53
kanzure(it is problematic to do this after setup.py because the user's permissions will not be great enough to install generated files to site-packages, unless virtualenv)23:54
nmz787does anyone in here read chinese?23:58
nmz787i really want to know what these bottles are labelled http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photoresist-Blue-Paint-Resist-Remover-Developer-Reagent-Etchant-DIY-PCB-Kit-/200837412281?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2d7b5b923:59
kanzurerob does23:59
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