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| poppingtonic | what do you guys think of Phonebloks? | 08:07 |
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| * heath wonders why zotero translators uses xpath instead of css selectors | 10:01 | |
| jrayhawk | while i like modularity and will probably be buying the Sailfish for exactly that reason, the level of reconfigurability that phonebloks is pretending is possible is ridiculous | 10:02 |
| jrayhawk | one-size-fits-all busses like USB and bluetooth+power are an enormous waste and dynamically configured bus/power backplane would require amazing and magical voodoo that he doesn't even make mention of | 10:06 |
| jrayhawk | it is probably safe to operate under the assumption that he has never actually talked to an electrical engineer | 10:07 |
| kanzure | heath: there are many other problems with zotero that i would expect you to bring up long before you complain about their use of xpaths | 10:09 |
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| heath | scrapy uses xpath and a broken robots.txt parser :| | 10:11 |
| kanzure | yes, most of those crawler frameworks are total jokes | 10:12 |
| kanzure | just ignore them | 10:12 |
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| nmz787 | jrayhawk: the Jolla you mean? | 10:43 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah. | 10:44 |
| nmz787 | jrayhawk: have you seen the new Moto X Republic Wireless is offering? $25/month for unlimited 3G, $40 for unlimited 4G... $300 up front for the phone, but there's a $100 rebate if you buy an older motorola on craigslist (or have one already) to mail into motoroal | 10:44 |
| nmz787 | (if you buy a moto X) | 10:45 |
| jrayhawk | don't see the appeal of bazaar-hostile phones | 10:46 |
| nmz787 | what's that mean? | 10:46 |
| nmz787 | i could use a moto x in a bazaar | 10:46 |
| jrayhawk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar | 10:46 |
| nmz787 | you don't like linux phones? | 10:47 |
| jrayhawk | I like platforms with open development and open hardware. | 10:48 |
| kanzure | i don't see how any of that could be construed to mean that jrayhawk doesn't like any linux phone | 10:48 |
| nmz787 | "The Bazaar model, in which the code is developed over the Internet in view of the public. Raymond credits Linus Torvalds, leader of the Linux kernel project, as the inventor of this process. " | 10:48 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: ^ | 10:49 |
| jrayhawk | s/don't see the appeal of bazaar-hostile phones/I $0/ | 10:49 |
| nmz787 | what's $0 defined as? | 10:49 |
| nmz787 | ahh, hostile to that style | 10:50 |
| nmz787 | meh, none of the IC fabs are gonna open-source their ideas | 10:50 |
| nmz787 | the chinese contract fabs will never open-source their silicon trojans | 10:51 |
| jrayhawk | Well, open enough to compile whole kernels for. | 10:51 |
| nmz787 | i guess there's more likelihood of foul play in a highly desirable phone | 10:51 |
| heath | nashville isn't so bad, there are over 15 freenode irc channels for groups in the area :) | 10:51 |
| heath | none of which i started | 10:51 |
| nmz787 | you can't compile android? | 10:51 |
| nmz787 | i thought that's the whole point of the ROM community | 10:52 |
| justanotheruser | What's the best place to host PDFs? | 10:52 |
| jrayhawk | No, almost all the phones involve random binary modules. | 10:52 |
| nmz787 | like how HTC didn't work on android for my phone after 2.3.5 or something, but random internet dudes release a 4.0 version that almost worked OK on my phone | 10:52 |
| heath | justanotheruser: your vps service? | 10:52 |
| justanotheruser | heath: I don't have one | 10:53 |
| heath | jrayhawk: ^ | 10:53 |
| nmz787 | that's not any different than nvidia not releasing open drivers though right? i guess you can choose ATI in that case | 10:53 |
| heath | nmz787: re: motoX + republic wireless, are they using t-mobile's towers? | 10:53 |
| nmz787 | sprints | 10:53 |
| kanzure | i don't think that quote describes what "bazaar" actually means | 10:53 |
| jrayhawk | And actually nVidia's started opening things up. | 10:54 |
| gradstudentbot | Oh man, that's a great scrabble word. I got to write that down. | 10:54 |
| nmz787 | lol ^ | 10:54 |
| jrayhawk | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2013-September/014480.html | 10:54 |
| heath | hm, every service i've used that goes through tmobile starts to slow down after i fly past the 2.5gb mark | 10:54 |
| jrayhawk | Strangely nobody really talked to Andy about it at the XDC. | 10:54 |
| heath | i imagine it's the same with sprint | 10:55 |
| nmz787 | all i'd be concerned with is removing spyware | 10:55 |
| jrayhawk | maybe they did it outside of his presentation time. | 10:55 |
| jrayhawk | Regardless, nouveau is largely usable and non-fragmenting. | 10:55 |
| nmz787 | if a phone makes it super hard to do that, that's dirty... but rooting a phone is pretty simple | 10:55 |
| kanzure | uh, rooting a phone does not remove spyware | 10:55 |
| kanzure | you still have shit on your SoCs that you don't see | 10:56 |
| kanzure | like all of the wonderful gobs of bytes from qualcomm | 10:56 |
| nmz787 | no but it opens up the possibility of deleting files | 10:56 |
| nmz787 | i'd assume qualcomm wasn't spyware in the sense it bogs down available CPU cycles from me taking pictures | 10:56 |
| nmz787 | afk | 10:57 |
| kanzure | no, it's a separate chip | 10:57 |
| heath | justanotheruser: http://linode.com if you want to DIY, it's easy enough | 10:58 |
| entelechios | .lucky android replicant | 10:58 |
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| entelechios | wrong channel | 10:59 |
| entelechios | .gy android replicant | 10:59 |
| entelechios | .g android replicant | 10:59 |
| yoleaux | http://replicant.us/ | 10:59 |
| entelechios | there we go. | 10:59 |
| entelechios | FSF-funded android spinoff | 10:59 |
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| Mokstar | juri_, you are a gentle(man|woman) and a scholar. | 11:00 |
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| heath | https://github.com/gelstudios/gitfiti :: abusing github commit history for the lulz | 11:34 |
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| kanzure | heath: mine was first. :( | 11:46 |
| heath | link? | 11:46 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure?tab=contributions | 11:46 |
| heath | i'm aware of this :) | 11:47 |
| heath | i thought you had a script to share | 11:47 |
| kanzure | it's in streak.git | 11:47 |
| kanzure | it doesn't do bitmaps though | 11:47 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, I couldn't repeat that. | 11:47 |
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| Mokstar | is there a good 3d printing room in freenode? | 11:50 |
| heath | #reprap | 11:50 |
| heath | #printrbot is slow | 11:50 |
| Mokstar | whooo, thanks | 11:50 |
| heath | juri_: no any others? | 11:50 |
| heath | s/no/know :) | 11:50 |
| kanzure | #reprap is all you need but if you want other things there's #makerbot and #slic3r | 11:52 |
| Mokstar | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2041280918/vrase-the-smartphone-virtual-reality-case/widget/video.html | 11:53 |
| Mokstar | kanzure, thanks! | 11:53 |
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| juri_ | hio. :) | 12:21 |
| juri_ | #reprap is a lot of traffic. i tend to stay out of it, unless i need to re-sync with the 'pulse' of the industry. | 12:22 |
| juri_ | i've actually started a project over in #fosscar, on oftc. we're trying to print cars. | 12:22 |
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| juri_ | it tends to bounce between really high end analysis of 3d printer hotends, and us whining about not having any real funding. :) | 12:24 |
| Mokstar | juri_, do you know if incorporating a honeycomb fill pattern to the STL would change the ccm^3 calculation for makexyz.com? | 12:24 |
| Mokstar | or is it a calculation of how much space the object takes up, rather than feedstock | 12:24 |
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| juri_ | that'd be a makezyx question. there is good software for calculating based on feedstock, but that depends on the slicer, so... i'd imagine makexyz uses the simpler volume calculation. ask, the guys who run it are very open and communicative. | 12:27 |
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| chris_99 | have you guys seen this http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox | 13:38 |
| chris_99 | i'm curious what you think of it | 13:38 |
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| kanzure | go to #lesswrong if you want to talk about that | 13:42 |
| Mokstar | juri_, nathan wrote back to me, he said that it assumes 100% infill | 13:46 |
| Mokstar | is there a way to "hard-code" a honeycomb (for example) infill into an object, so that it's expressed in the STL? | 13:46 |
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| heath | "author in es6, transpile to umd, distribute everywhere" :: http://ryanflorence.com/2013/es6-modules-and-browser-app-delivery/ | 14:43 |
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| kanzure | i thought this is what bower was for | 14:50 |
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| nalkri | s | 14:57 |
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| heath | the point is that bower and npm are for bundling/distributing packages. amd and cjs have been iterim standards, and now that the es6 module syntax is pretty much set in stone, according to herman a few mins ago, we should be migrating to this | 15:12 |
| heath | the author is pointing out this https://github.com/umdjs/es6-module-transpiler is the migratory step | 15:13 |
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| heath | s/the/a | 15:21 |
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| kanzure | heath: i see | 15:23 |
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| heath | from james burke just now: https://gist.github.com/heath/ab8b756c8bfa8b09965e/raw/ba849da6feacf2c26d5fbc6e03d3576f96649e27/gistfile1.txt | 15:50 |
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| kanzure | isn't that the pumpingstation:one person | 16:02 |
| kanzure | "Told to me by my friend, Jim Burke, of JPL, who was a colleague of Feynman at the time Feynman set up his first prize ( for an electric motor no more than 1/64 inch on a side). I don't know that I've ever seen it in print." | 16:03 |
| * kanzure scratches his head | 16:03 | |
| kanzure | i thought i emailed the javascript jim burke before. i guess not. | 16:03 |
| heath | this guy: https://github.com/jrburke | 16:05 |
| kanzure | i know. the volo guy. | 16:06 |
| * heath is buidling openjdk8 | 16:06 | |
| kanzure | still confused. could've sworn i emailed him and bkero at some point. | 16:06 |
| heath | in theory, with nashorn and jruby, ruby and javascript projects can share code | 16:06 |
| heath | it'd be nice to use akka | 16:07 |
| bkero | kanzure: me and jburke? | 16:07 |
| kanzure | nevermind, i don't have logs, i guess i imagined it | 16:08 |
| bkero | You've definitely emailed some people before on my behalf :) | 16:08 |
| bkero | or at least gave me some email addresses of associates | 16:08 |
| * bkero looks up hackerspaces in munich | 16:09 | |
| kanzure | superkuh: is this worth any tinkering? http://www.locata.com/article/vray-antenna/ | 16:09 |
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| superkuh | I'm not sure yet (3/4th through video). My guess is that it only applies for a condition where the signals being received are modulated in a very particular fashion and it is not applicable to generalized radio reception. | 16:18 |
| superkuh | Knowledge that the signal sources are are at a particular phase and total power at a given time reference both the receiver and the signal sources share. | 16:19 |
| superkuh | Since the sampling is not coherent. | 16:20 |
| superkuh | Reading the tech papers now. | 16:21 |
| kanzure | oops, i never intended to show you something where you would have had to watch a video, that's terrifying. sorry about that. | 16:27 |
| superkuh | Yeah. It only works with coded pulses and a shared reference time (which they cleverly distributed by error minimization of their coded pulses compared to neighbor transmitters). | 16:39 |
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| heath | strages ^ | 17:04 |
| strages | ? | 17:09 |
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| juri_ | mokustar: sure, its possible, but i don't know how, off of the top of my head. ask in #reprap. | 18:00 |
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| kanzure | luznux: hi | 21:32 |
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| Burninate | http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/09/a-prion-love-story.html | 23:25 |
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