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| EnLilaSko | http://gizmodo.com/how-to-use-a-laser-pointer-to-turn-your-iphone-into-a-m-1448478994 | 09:36 |
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| kanzure | Dantespeaks: the "3 laws of robotics" are bullshit, brains still work without them. | 10:06 |
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| nmz787 | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.270.5243.1804 | 11:16 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d94c9092db88a76d1044e6fc8f74ebfc.txt | 11:16 |
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| archels | kanzure: there's a bit of a game-theoretic aspect to them though | 12:22 |
| archels | the selfish gene for robots | 12:23 |
| archels | if a robot decides to kill all humans, it is certain to incur our wrath and face near certain destruction | 12:24 |
| archels | thus, it is in its best interest to look after the interests of humans | 12:24 |
| kanzure | huh? | 12:25 |
| kanzure | "genes" | 12:25 |
| kanzure | in my mind when you say robot i think "human or robot" and as far as i know humans are not presently restricted by known physics to "the 3 laws" | 12:26 |
| kanzure | so therefore your argument is bullshit | 12:26 |
| ua | archels, why you think that anyone would made a robot that isn't just uber slave? | 12:27 |
| kanzure | what? | 12:27 |
| kanzure | that's like asking "why you think that anyone would make a human that isn't just uber slave?" | 12:28 |
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| ua | yes and most of them are lol | 12:28 |
| ua | learn, get a job, work, eat shift fuck die | 12:28 |
| n_bentha | what else tis there to do? | 12:28 |
| kanzure | so you consider "doing things" to be slavery? | 12:28 |
| kanzure | i hate all of you | 12:29 |
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| ua | kanzure, wanna irchug? | 12:29 |
| kanzure | fuck off | 12:29 |
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| ua | kanzure, I'm sorry | 12:29 |
| n_bentha | could always get baked and go snowboarding? | 12:29 |
| @kanzure | i don't care, stop being an idiot | 12:29 |
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| archels | kanzure: no, but humans are restricted, or at least shaped, by these game-theoretic considerations | 12:35 |
| archels | but yes this assumes that 'gene selfishness' extends to 'meme selfishness' | 12:36 |
| archels | which I deem plausible | 12:36 |
| archels | of course if we are of no value whatsoever to the robots, the argument does not hold | 12:39 |
| archels | but I don't think many people here hold, say, Kurzweil's ETA for the singularity anyway. | 12:40 |
| @kanzure | archels: humans can have all sorts of mental problems that can lead them to ignore those "game-theoretic considerations". i don't see your point. | 12:45 |
| @kanzure | *see your point as valid | 12:46 |
| archels | my point is that sociopaths have a diminished reproductive fitness, be they robotic or human | 12:50 |
| archels | it even seems to hold for bankers, in the long run! | 12:51 |
| archels | :) | 12:51 |
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| ua | archels, how is not being bound by the rules everyone plays by diminishing? | 12:54 |
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| archels | because either you are not extracting the maximum possible value from your fellow man (in terms of economy/trade) and/or you are pissing him off, increasing your chances of being lynched or ending up in jail | 13:04 |
| ua | not being bound by rules =/= breaking every rule | 13:06 |
| ua | but it certainly opens up possibilies for extracting value | 13:06 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/pop/20/8/10.1063/1.4816669 | 17:07 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Scitation%3A%20The%20magnetospheric%20clock%20of%20SaturnA%20self-organized%20plasma%20dynamo.txt | 17:07 |
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| bertmy | paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/jbm.a.10057 | 17:55 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3e61d45bd8f55b286fc0e7eb5f426009.txt | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | bertmy: hi | 18:06 |
| bertmy | kanzure: howdy | 18:17 |
| bertmy | paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/adma.200401960 | 18:17 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9fe3e00ba574b95672e4f888cc9cd511.txt | 18:18 |
| @kanzure | bertmy: what brings you around? | 18:20 |
| bertmy | kanzure: trying to figure out how to modify silica nanoparticles with PEG | 18:21 |
| @kanzure | i know a few people with experience in exactly that | 18:22 |
| @kanzure | state your questions and i can get some answers if i rough up a few feathers.. | 18:22 |
| bertmy | What are a few synthetic methods to react polyethylene glycol with silica particles in order to coat them? | 18:30 |
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| bertmy | paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/1097-4636%2820000905%2951:3%3C343::AID-JBM7%3E3.0.CO;2-D | 18:32 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d6a59a13ddf5fc7c8d0828c24f0f611.txt | 18:32 |
| bertmy | paperbot does not like Wiley.com | 18:33 |
| @kanzure | paperbot is not omnipotent | 18:42 |
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| bertmy | paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/la00019a045 | 19:09 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Ellipsometry%20Studies%20of%20the%20Self-Assembly%20of%20Nonionic%20Surfactants%20at%20the%20Silica-Water%20Interface%3A%20Equilibrium%20Aspects.txt | 19:09 |
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| tentative8eacon | what does paperbot do? | 21:59 |
| tentative8eacon | it cant just be to display a webpage as text, right? | 21:59 |
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| @kanzure | tentative8eacon: https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot | 22:37 |
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| tentative8eacon | ty | 22:43 |
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| Dantespeaks | if this channel is sponsored by NRA = assuming it's the national rifle association, could i ask questions about making guns? | 23:42 |
| Dantespeaks | as long as you dont produce it, is it legal to design i wonder. | 23:43 |
| Dantespeaks | i had thought, if this is possible, a revolver based rifle with a pump action | 23:44 |
| Dantespeaks | as a cocking mechanism. is it mechanically possible? | 23:44 |
| Zhwazi | Yes. | 23:57 |
| Zhwazi | I don't know of it ever having been done. | 23:57 |
| Zhwazi | Part of the good thing about a revolver is that the trigger pull can do all of the cocking needed. | 23:57 |
| Zhwazi | There are revolver-based rifles, and there are pump-action rifles, but I know of nothing that combines the two. | 23:58 |
| Zhwazi | The pump-action rifles feed from non-rotary magazines, usually tubular or box magazines. | 23:58 |
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