2013-10-21.log

--- Log opened Mon Oct 21 00:00:01 2013
Dantespeaksbut it is possible right? i cant understand the mechanism ive never seen references to it.00:02
Dantespeaksthanks, im a fan of revolvers 'cause of it's continuity - it will not degrade over time nor will it jam + maybe higher accuracy.00:03
Dantespeaksit will probably carry less ammo due to the housing being heavier & the reloading times, but there are ways around this i think.00:04
Dantespeaksis there a disadvantageous factor on having carbon fibre barrels?00:05
Dantespeaksi know it's lighter but - can it shatter or crack over time?00:05
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ZhwaziYes, it's possible, and mechanically feasible, and I can explain more or less how it would work, it's just unnecessary.00:23
ZhwaziRevolvers are more accurate than most semiautomatic pistols00:24
DantespeaksI understand. ty. As long as it's feasible i can think about it.00:24
ZhwaziBut that's because most semiautomatic pistols are inaccurate, not because revolvers are particularly accurate.00:24
ZhwaziRifles that eliminate the cylinder gap will be more accurate.00:25
ZhwaziAt least, given the cost and engineering effort involved.00:25
ZhwaziSemiautomatic pistols that have barrels fixed to the frame like how a revolver does are also known for their accuracy00:26
ZhwaziAnd revolvers do jam, they just jam in different ways than semiautomatics.00:26
Dantespeaksoh00:26
Dantespeaksi guess it depends on the design...00:27
ZhwaziI would say that a revolver is generally more fault tolerant00:27
ZhwaziIf a revolver fails to fire, you pull the trigger again. It could fail to turn the cylinder, or it could fail to cock the hammer, but that's about all that can go wrong.00:27
ZhwaziIf a semiauto fails to fire, extract, eject, and feed, then you have to rack the slide a few times and sometimes remove the magazine before it will work again.00:28
ZhwaziSo there are twice as many things that can go wrong, and it's a lot harder to fix those things when they are fixable00:29
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Dantespeaksit seems highly unlikely a cylinder will fail to turn, unless the gun is seriously faulty.00:30
Dantespeaksdepending on the reliability of the design, i would prefer a revolver... but i didn't know semi-automatics used a cylinder weighed to the middle of the gun as well00:31
Dantespeakssemi-auto jams, and during the time you try fixing it, you die. :(00:31
ZhwaziThe mechanism that turns the wheel has a few things that can go wrong00:31
ZhwaziIt's not the simplest thing ever devised00:32
Dantespeaksso simpler the mechanism = less chances of it going wrong?00:32
ZhwaziIn general, yes.00:32
Dantespeaksi see. how many guns would you prefer in a battle situation (sorry, very childish question, but humour me)00:33
Dantespeaksi can understand having more guns will reduce your loading time until you get out of the situation.00:33
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ZhwaziHaha, the word for that is "New York Reload"00:34
blueskinif course, with a revolver, it's then limited in capacity and slower to reload unless you're a trick shooter00:34
blueskinso it's a tradeoff either way, I guess00:34
ZhwaziNew York cops when they issued revolvers would carry two revolvers00:34
blueskinheh00:34
Dantespeaksi see00:34
ZhwaziHonestly, I would prefer to have a single reliable semiautomatic00:34
ZhwaziSomething like a Glock.00:34
Dantespeaksyou see movies and they hold like 6 different guns in 3 pairs, just how plausible is this? aren't they heavy?00:35
ZhwaziThose are pretty simple guns.00:35
ZhwaziIt varies.00:35
Dantespeaksyeah i heard glocks are very reliable.00:35
ZhwaziMost guns will weigh over a pound00:35
ZhwaziLike, pistols00:35
ZhwaziVery few very small mostly-plastic pistols can be lighter00:35
ZhwaziA more regular pistol can be 2-3 pounds00:36
Dantespeakscan a revolver be equipped with a silencer or the gaps between it makes it impossible to supress sounds?00:36
ZhwaziMost cannot00:36
Dantespeaksi see, that's pretty heavy.00:36
ZhwaziThere's one design that can, because it has a gas seal for the cylinde gap00:36
ZhwaziIt's a crappy revolver for other reasons00:37
blueskinyeah, most can't, some particular ones are built to really tight tolerances and can IIRC00:37
ZhwaziIt's calld the nagant revolver00:37
blueskinoh, and don't say silencer around gun nuts, it's a suppressor ;)00:37
ZhwaziBut people have put silencers on them00:37
Dantespeaksso i guess having like, 1 rifle + 1 pair of guns and maybe a tertiary weapon would suffice...00:37
blueskinthat's the one from MGS3, heh00:37
Dantespeaksblueskin: got it. i'm trying to become a gun nut here.00:37
blueskin/r/gats00:37
Dantespeaks"nagant revolver" there's a name to it. amazing.00:38
blueskinOperator with a silencer and 15 rails00:38
Dantespeaksok i'll jot it down.00:38
Dantespeaksi wish i can produce a pair of revolvers/rifles of my design and sell it somewhere.00:38
Dantespeaksthinking of how bullet proof armours work, and im imagining if it's the tensile strength of the metal or the hardness of a different material is useful against bullets.00:39
blueskindeforming and ablation mostly, iirc00:40
Dantespeakslike i know hardness = usually means lighter, but brittle. more likely to survive a bullet just once or something. while tensile strength would not deflect a bullet but slow it down....00:40
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Dantespeakscool guys interesting stuff :)00:41
Dantespeaksty - gotta learn more.00:41
Dantespeaksin prep of zombie apocalypse. :)00:42
Dantespeakswhen i say i want to design and sell, i mean legally of course.00:45
Dantespeakswhat are the licensing scheme involved in producing weapons for the military...?00:46
Dantespeaks:) anyways, cool.00:46
nmz787kanzure: met a guy yesterday who made a few mer oligos by hand in an organosynthesis class at UC Davis01:05
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@kanzurehaha some idiots are using phantomjs for ddos http://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/ddos-attack-used-headless-browsers-in-15/24016277702:10
@kanzurewhich is dumb because using plain-old webkit is usually easier02:10
@kanzure""It mimics human behavior so effectively that it's a challenge for mitigation services to deal with.""02:10
@kanzurebuulllshiiit, phantomjs has tons of global top-level variables that are super easy to detect02:10
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blueskinheh02:14
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superkuhpaperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/grl.50742/full05:42
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a731f64fb2ea612d18c7ba90c120f52.txt05:42
archels.title05:43
yoleauxProperties of the thundercloud discharges responsible for terrestrial gamma-ray flashes05:43
superkuhpaperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/grl.50742/pdf05:43
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a5f0d2ec77d9d14546dbff60304ff5.txt05:43
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EnLilaSkopaperbot: http://www.umbjournal.org/article/S0301-5629%2812%2900575-3/fulltext07:05
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2b9e64398cb60c6645d5e8a6a8f63a54.txt07:05
EnLilaSkopaperbot: http://www.umbjournal.org/article/S0301-5629%2812%2900575-3/pdf07:05
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1e8067214147340693c4a3baa0614aec.txt07:05
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archels.title08:38
yoleauxUltrasound in Medicine and Biology08:38
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@kanzureso titlebot is working again?09:00
archelsdon't call it titlebot, it doesn't like it when you do that09:04
@kanzureclosing https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/3509:05
@kanzurei need an actual pdf parser/generator09:06
ParahSailinlol09:18
ParahSailingiven up on a javascript pdf thing?09:19
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@kanzureParahSailin: not yet09:22
@kanzureParahSailin: it would be nice to do a streaming pdf parser/generator09:23
@kanzureman, i must have a terrible definition of "nice"09:23
@kanzurefenn: are you alive?09:23
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archelsGoogle Scholar is giving apparently unwarranted CAPTCHA challenges, whether I'm signed in or not11:45
archelsmy housemate is a Zotera user...11:46
@kanzurenice.11:47
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delinquentmeer mer ger.15:24
nmz787?15:31
nmz787paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/grl.5074215:32
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4f33de8f56d6c1c48605c394f40e4f15.txt15:33
nmz787I think Russia has it's PDF hole plugged up15:33
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@kanzurethis isn't really through russia15:57
@kanzureoh you mean scihub links15:57
@kanzureactually, that's an interesting question15:57
@kanzurewhat happened to that15:57
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