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| Tukotih_ | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mds.20145/abstract | 04:25 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9f63b1bad2a3f8b5256ab8b2129e2829.txt | 04:26 |
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| @kanzure | bleep bloop | 08:58 |
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| @kanzure | this is a surprisingly okay list of reasons http://hackaday.com/2013/05/06/the-first-3d-printed-gun-has-been-fired-and-i-dont-care/ | 14:14 |
| @kanzure | i would have expected more BS | 14:14 |
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| ashleywaffle | http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bitcoin-dark-wallet | 16:36 |
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| @kanzure | yashgaroth: sup | 19:51 |
| yashgaroth | logs've been giving me a 403 for the past few days | 19:52 |
| @kanzure | yeah we got linked in the news | 19:52 |
| yashgaroth | say whaaat | 19:52 |
| @kanzure | nsh has been accused of hacking "thousands of military networks" | 19:53 |
| @kanzure | and then they link straight to these logs "about biohacking" | 19:53 |
| @kanzure | figured it would be prudent to disable that for a day or two | 19:54 |
| yashgaroth | link to article? | 19:54 |
| @kanzure | http://rt.com/usa/lauri-love-anonymous-lastresort-853/ | 19:54 |
| @kanzure | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/28/us-briton-hacking-charges-nasa-lauri-love | 19:55 |
| yashgaroth | dang | 19:57 |
| @kanzure | i don't think it's really true though. there's a lot of weird inconsistencies in their claims. | 19:58 |
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| yashgaroth | well I guess they wouldn't publish methods on how they got the chatlogs or PMs or whatever, but the only actual evidence I see cited is that an 'internet domain' that he paid for with a paypal linked to his public email was used for hax | 20:11 |
| @kanzure | which seems suspicious to me if he was actually using tor | 20:12 |
| yashgaroth | a literally unbelievably stupid move | 20:13 |
| yashgaroth | not to mention 'changed his nickname on IRC', like that dude who kept coming in last week with the same IP and bugging paperbot | 20:13 |
| @kanzure | yeah, nsh isn't known for doing stupid things like that | 20:15 |
| @kanzure | also i have found a fairly accurate video that describes how transcranial ultrasound works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQjVN13dI10 | 20:24 |
| yashgaroth | apparently 'microconcussion' is not a word | 20:28 |
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| dingo | total recall is playing on TBS | 23:31 |
| dingo | i think this was a PKD novel | 23:31 |
| dingo | biohacking related though right :-) | 23:31 |
| dingo | hehe | 23:31 |
| nmz787 | you're rght it was PKD's | 23:31 |
| nmz787 | just finished Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? | 23:31 |
| dingo | oh thats a great book | 23:33 |
| nmz787 | it seemed like an oversight that they had hovercars, but no cell phones. | 23:33 |
| dingo | hehe | 23:33 |
| dingo | it was written in maybe 1980 or so | 23:33 |
| dingo | i think what i really liked about that book is the personality | 23:34 |
| nmz787 | 1968 first published | 23:34 |
| nmz787 | but still radio had been around since the turn of the century | 23:34 |
| dingo | i dont read a lot of PKD, maybe only 4 or 5 of his books all the way through | 23:34 |
| dingo | 2 of them i couldn't even finish | 23:34 |
| dingo | they were just too abstract | 23:34 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 23:34 |
| nmz787 | this has been my only | 23:34 |
| dingo | but that one really sold me | 23:34 |
| nmz787 | having to read Oryx and Crake now | 23:34 |
| nmz787 | also starts with bio weirdness | 23:35 |
| dingo | had to google that one, never heard of it | 23:35 |
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| dingo | hmm i may have read at least one of her other works though | 23:36 |
| dingo | i recently went through some 1980's sci fi collections | 23:36 |
| nmz787 | i'm in a scifi lit class now | 23:37 |
| dingo | usually i read 1970's and older | 23:37 |
| nmz787 | fit the requirement for a class i need to get my degree | 23:37 |
| dingo | wow thats one class i wouldn't drop out of hehe | 23:37 |
| nmz787 | lol | 23:37 |
| nmz787 | we last read brave new world | 23:37 |
| nmz787 | which also lacked cell phones | 23:37 |
| dingo | bah i didn't like that one at all | 23:38 |
| nmz787 | it was only dystopian because of the culture, I didn't really see any blame in their tech | 23:38 |
| dingo | i dunno why, maybe i was too young, like 16, when i read it | 23:38 |
| dingo | i do like dystopian future books | 23:39 |
| dingo | or movies for that matter | 23:39 |
| dingo | it seemed pop-culture-centric | 23:39 |
| dingo | never was a fan of that, in the future or the present | 23:40 |
| nmz787 | hah, that's what made it dystopian for me! | 23:40 |
| dingo | sometimes i read cliff notes or some such afterwards and go wow maybe it -was- a good book hahaha | 23:41 |
| dingo | the internet has really spoiled good reading | 23:41 |
| nmz787 | lol | 23:41 |
| nmz787 | i have the audio books for 3 of 4 req readings for this class | 23:41 |
| dingo | i like dune by frank herbert and foundation series by asimov for their length | 23:41 |
| nmz787 | first two were highly abridged though, so glad i read along | 23:41 |
| dingo | i worked at a factory when i read those books | 23:41 |
| dingo | really nice to have hundreds of pages of good story to daydream about during the day | 23:42 |
| nmz787 | haven't read them, closest I've come to dune is watching Beetlejuice (there was a scene with sand worms, I think referencing dune) | 23:42 |
| dingo | ha never thought of that, but yeah | 23:42 |
| dingo | dune is very spiritual, almost muslim-inspired | 23:42 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 23:42 |
| dingo | very weird stuff, but great storyline | 23:42 |
| dingo | political stuff worth paying attention to | 23:43 |
| dingo | foundation series has this great premise, that there is some mathematical way of predicting future possibilities, some new kind of scientific math or some such | 23:43 |
| dingo | i forget what they called it, psychometrics or something | 23:43 |
| dingo | there becomes some hidden race of ppl who just carefully adjust the timeline now and then for good outcomes | 23:44 |
| dingo | then part-way through the series, a 'mutant' is born, something unpredictable, fucks it all up | 23:44 |
| dingo | anyway its long as hell lol | 23:44 |
| dingo | when i first saw it i was like i'll never finish this | 23:45 |
| dingo | but i couldn't put it down for some reason | 23:45 |
| nmz787 | hah, the kind of book you read walking down the street despite just running into a telephone pole because of not watching out. | 23:45 |
| nmz787 | i was reading my phone walking the other day and freaked myself out, thinking i was about to walk into a pole | 23:46 |
| nmz787 | turned out to be air. | 23:46 |
| dingo | ha | 23:46 |
| dingo | if you can find the hugo award winners and nebula award winners volumes you won't be dissapointed | 23:46 |
| dingo | sometimes i think they awarded some folk just for writing very very very strange stories, that aren't very good, but just because they wanted to encourage 'pushing the boundires', like harlan ellison | 23:47 |
| dingo | but 90% of them are great, and they're short novels/short stories, so they're usually finishable within a night | 23:47 |
| dingo | they also had awards for full-length novels, but you won't find them in a single book | 23:47 |
| dingo | i used to have all of analog science fiction & science fact, 1969-1988, i recently donated that all away to the library, i miss them even though i read them all, they were monthly subscription magazintes of science fiction | 23:48 |
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| dingo | man i love science fiction hehe | 23:48 |
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| dingo | was just talking to a coworker and he recommended some for me to read... thinking bout getting my library card here and reading more | 23:49 |
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| nmz787 | I am on the fence as to whether I like reading fiction anymore | 23:49 |
| dingo | its just nice to have something interesting to excersize your thoughts with | 23:49 |
| dingo | oh i was completely against reading ficiton for a long time | 23:49 |
| dingo | i read only strictly scientific or technical books for a long time | 23:50 |
| nmz787 | watching it I'm more OK with because I can zone out and do other computer stuff if I get bored... or if my girlfriend is wanting to watch something more than I do | 23:50 |
| dingo | science fiction is the only fiction i read hehe | 23:50 |
| dingo | i think its healthy | 23:50 |
| nmz787 | there was someone in another IRC room that was writing some scifi, gave them some links to real science stuff that they were trying to create in their story | 23:51 |
| dingo | its given me new, interesting perspectives on things in this world, its helped matured my morals, ego, thoughts, etc. | 23:51 |
| nmz787 | i guess the links I gave them didn't fit exactly their creature, but they were pretty good for realistic/plausible evolutionary starting points | 23:51 |
| nmz787 | thinking about morals is an interesting way I've also looked at it | 23:52 |
| dingo | the best science fiction stretches concepts found in this world, twists them around in some alternate reality, but makes you realize something new and different about this seemingly normal world we're in | 23:53 |
| dingo | simple things like racism among creatures, you can understand it much more clearly when neither are human | 23:54 |
| nmz787 | yeah | 23:54 |
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