2013-11-10.log

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Felix__hi03:28
rkoshi03:30
Felix__can I simply paste a scholarly link to test paperbot?03:32
kyknos_yes03:34
Felix__cool03:37
Felix__http://applij.oxfordjournals.org/content/16/1/127.full.pdf03:37
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paperbotConnectionError: [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)03:41
Felix__http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21670811.2013.801686#.Un9yZ5TC8do03:48
kyknos_paperbot:  http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/21670811.2013.801686#.Un9yZ5TC8do03:49
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b77020c55f1e6befefa20cf91b00e2c7.txt03:49
kyknos_:(03:49
kyknos_paperbot: http://applij.oxfordjournals.org/content/16/1/127.full.pdf03:49
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EnLilaSkopaperbot: http://link.springer.com/accesspage/article/10.1007/BF00735880?coverImageUrl=%2Fstatic-content%2Fcovers%2Fjournals%2F620%2F00213.jpg05:04
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/20d9736a232091749fb3a42ea097c1ef.txt05:04
EnLilaSkopaperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF0073588005:04
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6df88de8f11bd8fd98a0ce60ecb952e6.txt05:04
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Qfwfqpaperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF0240392106:41
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/465bbf1f2864dc03a635d28621b33621.txt06:41
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EnLilaSkoIs paperbot forever broken?06:52
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kanzureEnLilaSko: not if you help.. https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues08:07
QfwfqIt looks like paperbot depends on libgen/sci-hub. And libgen isn't responding to requests.08:08
QfwfqOh, there are handlers for IEEE/JSTOR/etc also.08:10
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kanzureyes and those handlers need to be deleted or rewritten08:18
kanzurethe majority of the pdf downloading capability comes from zotero08:18
kanzurehuh, i didn't know tanks were so very cheap http://wish.co.uk/blog/owning-a-tank/08:19
Qfwfqkanzure: Where's the translation server code?08:21
QfwfqOh, here. https://github.com/kanzure/translation-server08:22
BigRonnieRonkanzure: that is much cheaper than I thought08:22
kanzureQfwfq: i have been writing a pure javascript implementation that runs both in browsers and in nodejs because zotero suuuuucks08:23
kanzureQfwfq: https://github.com/kanzure/papermonk08:23
QfwfqI like the picture.08:24
QfwfqOkay, so papermonk-compatible downloaders have 'matches' and 'download' functions. 'matches' takes a URI, and tests if it was written to handle it, 'download' takes a URI and a callback, and calls the callback with the content..?08:27
* Qfwfq looks for the plosone downloader08:27
Qfwfqhttps://github.com/kanzure/papermonk-downloader-plosone08:28
kanzurepapermonk is still experimental and i haven't figured out all the pieces yet08:28
kanzurein particular i'm trying to make the downloaders be streaming-compatible08:28
kanzureso i'm using trumpet to do streaming html parsing08:28
QfwfqHuh. The downloader in plosone ignores the callback argument, and just returns the parsed page.08:29
kanzurebut for some reason i can't quite figure out how to do one streaming html parser with multiple outbound pipes08:29
kanzureline 47 is where i parse one particular html element from the stream https://github.com/kanzure/papermonk-downloader-plosone/blob/master/src/parser.js#L4708:30
kanzureyeah, the streaming html parsing stuff was a priority for me08:30
kanzurethis is basically where i leftoff08:30
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QfwfqOkay, so you're building an API that takes a paper's URI, and returns a JSON object with the path for a non-paywalled file download.08:31
kanzureno08:31
kanzureit's an event emitter i think08:31
kanzureit emits pieces of json as they are parsed from the html stream08:31
QfwfqOh, neat. Like, concurrency-wise.08:32
kanzureit's a non-blocking pdf pirate fortress08:32
QfwfqWhich network is paperbot on?08:33
kanzureit's in here08:33
QfwfqOh, I mean; which academic network, ior who's credentials?08:34
kanzuredon't ask08:34
QfwfqHeh.08:35
kanzurealso it's attempting to remove the ip addresses from watermarks08:35
kanzurehttps://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia08:36
QfwfqSearching metadata for strings matching IP patterns?08:36
* Qfwfq checks08:36
kanzureit's not metadata08:36
kanzureit's often plastered on every page in the margins08:36
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QfwfqI've not used a PDF parser before.08:37
Qfwfq(Besides, like, poppler.)08:37
kanzureit's not a pdf parser08:37
kanzurethere's no good pdf parser/generator. there's pdfminer and pdfquery but they can't write so i couldn't use it.08:37
kanzurethere's that haskell one that ParahSai1in found a few days ago, but i haven't used it yet08:37
QfwfqIt looks like you're using pdfminer here.08:39
QfwfqAt least to study PDFs.08:39
kanzureyes, well, pdfminer isn't that great08:40
QfwfqLink to the Haskell library?08:41
kanzurehttps://github.com/Yuras/pdf-toolbox08:43
Qfwfqmeep08:48
kanzurepapermonk-downloader-plosone doesn't return the parsed page in download() it returns a reference to the event stream08:52
QfwfqI need to read about event emitters >_>08:54
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* Qfwfq nods vigorously09:00
Qfwfqpaperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/231258809:24
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20Visual%20Display%20of%20Some%20Properties%20of%20the%20Distribution%20of%20Primes.pdf09:24
Qfwfqpaperbot: <309:24
Qfwfqkanzure: (That PDF hasn't been sanitised)09:25
kanzurepost a bug report https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues09:26
QfwfqDone.09:27
kanzurethanks09:36
Qfwfqpaperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/302971909:39
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/On%20Certain%20Sequences%20of%20Integers%20Defined%20by%20Sieves.pdf09:39
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kyknos_paperbot: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2808%2901621-709:55
paperbotConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)09:55
kyknos_paperbot: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2808%2901621-709:55
paperbotConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)09:55
kyknos_bad girl09:55
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Qfwfqpaperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/202796310:04
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paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Combinatorial%20Analysis%20in%20Infinite%20Sets%20and%20Some%20Physical%20Theories.pdf10:04
kyknos_paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-0-387-72655-7_1110:07
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a9e52e5fe4c230a6befc405bd9dedbc4.txt10:07
kyknos_paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-0-387-72655-7_1110:08
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b5cf0bdc67a4250990aa99383ab4aad7.txt10:08
kyknos_paperbot:  http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4612-3714-3_1810:08
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b259b2baff921b04e28f962bf3f07a20.txt10:08
sandeepkrhi folks10:09
kyknos_paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0411-8_210:12
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/257f7d34ff88a15b773aa495c55a1b6c.txt10:12
kyknos_paperbot:  http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-0-387-72655-7_910:15
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/414f76e33171be44c5b8b74b478207a2.txt10:15
kyknos_she hates me!10:15
QfwfqNo, she doesn't know how to talk to Springer yet.10:15
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poppingtonicpaperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/461701a12:06
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a6603fa512ff207244760034f423b237.txt12:06
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poppingtonicpaperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S003531599789986217:04
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b96ee54650e7bc3c1c8e982a81b8132d.txt17:04
poppingtonicpaperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0035-3159(97)89986-217:04
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9d6824416ad63ef9b490cd6d77e7ee19.txt17:04
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heathhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6706618 http://www.overcomingbias.com/2013/11/the-bright-future-of-pipes.html "a future of pipes"17:56
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poppingtonicheath: that's a pretty nice article18:09
bkerokanzure: Huh. Apparently there's a hackerspace in Paris that is nomadic. http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Le_Loop18:13
bkeroI'm going to try to check it out sometime this week.18:14
dingosaw that too.. cute to think to tell a kid "You should get into plumbing, now *thats* the future of tech!"18:14
kanzuresomeone's gotta plumb all these datas through these pipes18:15
kanzurebuffer overflow in the data mines, yarr.. or whatever miners say.18:15
dingoi think miners mostly just say "this job sucks"18:16
bkeroOh, in case y'all're interested: http://lanyrd.com/2014/hackerbeach/18:16
kanzurebkero: if you want some cad people to hang out with then i recommend thomas paviot or jelle feringa18:16
kanzurethey are cad/python people18:17
bkerocad is cool18:17
kanzurei think utopiah is in paris18:17
kanzureUtopiah: why are you not here?18:17
bkeroIt's 0317 in Paris. :P18:17
bkeroI'm just crazy.18:17
kanzurethe diybio people in paris are amael asssour, philippe langlois, thomas landrain18:18
kanzurethomas is probably an appropriate point-of-contact person18:18
bkeroCool18:18
kanzureif you want an ffmpeg (OOPS I MEAN AVCONV) developer there's ubitux18:19
bkeroHe's associated with http://www.lapaillasse.org/ it looks like18:19
bkeroHeh18:19
bkeroActually there are a bunch of video people locally. Mozilla hired basically all of xiph.org18:19
bkeroThat'd be cool to get everyone together.18:19
kanzurelocally=?18:19
bkeroParis18:20
kanzureutopiah is fabien something18:21
kanzureuh.. fabien benetou18:21
bkeroWhy isn't he in here? :(18:21
kanzurehasn't been around since september i guess18:22
bkeroI wonder if he dropped off the face of the earth.18:22
bkerokanzure: why do you know everybody? :318:23
kanzurei run my own mini surveillance program18:23
bkerosurveil.py18:24
kanzurealmost exactly18:24
bkeroHeh18:24
kanzureyou are presently in paris?18:26
bkeroI am18:31
bkeroFor the next two weeks.18:31
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poppingtonicbkero are you going for the Hacker Beach?18:33
bkeropoppingtonic: I am.18:33
bkeroMy name is on the page. ;)18:33
kanzurethere is also tmplab somewhere18:34
bkerohmm18:34
bkeroSo many hackerspaces in France.18:34
bkeroI need to learn more French >_>18:34
poppingtonicbkero: I'm in Nairobi, and will still be there in January.18:35
bkeropoppingtonic: Excellent! There will be many of us coming through Nairobi.18:35
poppingtonicI actually like this idea, and would like to participate.18:36
bkeroI might ask to stay a night to catch my flight to Lamu :)18:36
poppingtonicCool.18:36
bkeropoppingtonic: It is very loosely organized. Basically the instructions are: Show up in Lamu for some days in January.18:36
bkeroand hack on your own projects at coffee shops and on the beach, etc18:36
bkeroCan you speak Swahili?18:37
poppingtonicI'm Kenyan-born & raised.18:37
bkero\o/18:37
poppingtonicserendipity?18:37
bkeroWe have #hackerbeach to organize18:37
bkeroMaybe :)18:37
poppingtonicyep, we do :)18:38
bkeroalso http://www.twitter.com/hackerbeach18:38
bkeroI went to the last Hackerbeach (#1). It was excellent. Motorbikes and beaches and beer and hacking and FirefoxOS App Day.18:40
kanzurebkero: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/fbi-diybio-2012/thomas-landrain-la-paillasse.txt18:40
bkeroSome of us built a boat and sailed it18:41
poppingtonicawesome!18:42
bkerokanzure: Interesting. They have equipment. And some form of 'bioreactor'.18:43
kanzurealmost anything can end up being a bioreactor18:44
bkeroExactly18:44
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bkeroI don't think they'd mention it if it weren't novel though18:45
kanzureso it's ambiguous18:45
bkerokanzure: any clue what they're doing with brainz or synthetic bio?18:47
kanzurei haven't heard anything lately but my guess is (1) eeg and (2) something about tadpoles18:48
poppingtonicbkero: I just joined as an attendee.18:49
bkeropoppingtonic: Yay! Welcome18:51
poppingtonicThanks!18:53
bkeroMost of us are flying in from Berlin to Nairobi around Dec 28th - Jan 2.18:55
bkeroThen buying a plane ticket or motorcycles and travelling to lamu.18:55
entelechioseeg is boring18:58
entelechioshemoencephalography is more fun18:58
poppingtonicbkero: Very good. I'm negamuhia at twitter. Please tell me if you need anything :)18:58
bkeropoppingtonic: I will. I'm sure there will be many questions. :)18:59
bkeroBut for now I should sleep. It's 4 AM. :(18:59
poppingtonicGoodness, you night owls :P18:59
kanzure"where do you keep your dead?" many questions indeed..19:00
poppingtonicWell...I'm guilty too, it's 6AM here and I'm all wired...I should sleep19:00
poppingtonic"Is it like a beverage?"19:01
bkeroheh19:01
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poppingtonicpaperbot: dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.001354119:23
kanzurepaperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.001354119:25
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Urban%20Scaling%20and%20Its%20Deviations%3A%20Revealing%20the%20Structure%20of%20Wealth%2C%20Innovation%20and%20Crime%20across%20Cities.pdf19:25
poppingtonicty19:25
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