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| Tukotih_ | Sharelatex is really nice | 01:42 |
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| jrayhawk_ | Also Gitit and potentially Ikiwiki. | 12:50 |
| kanzure | at this point i dunno if people mean "git-backed" or "some startup company that is growing just like github" when they say "github for x" | 12:51 |
| jrayhawk_ | people who mean the latter deserve to have their question misanswered | 12:52 |
| kanzure | alright | 12:53 |
| nalkri | They also sometimes mean ‘generally easy to get way of uploading your data in a sharable way’ | 12:54 |
| Qfwfq | Do there exist (presumably domain-specific) git-backed services better than Github? | 12:54 |
| kanzure | that's surprising, because most people who make the mistake of asking poor questions don't usually consider git to be easy | 12:54 |
| nalkri | Sure, my server on my home network is better than Github :þ | 12:55 |
| nalkri | For given values of better | 12:55 |
| kanzure | Qfwfq: cubehero seems to handle stl a little bit better, but whatever | 12:55 |
| Qfwfq | https://cubehero.com/ | 12:56 |
| jrayhawk_ | oh hey, didn't know about that. that's cool. | 12:56 |
| kanzure | it's less cool than you might think. the owner is obsessed with openscad. :( | 12:57 |
| kanzure | why does nobody believe in separate of concerns when it comes to cad programming | 12:57 |
| kanzure | *separation | 12:57 |
| kanzure | and hte other alternative on cubehero seems to be "upload stl files in git repos", but that's like uploading compiled build objects | 12:59 |
| jrayhawk_ | didn't you have rendering hooks for other formats? | 13:00 |
| jrayhawk_ | you could offer them | 13:00 |
| kanzure | i believe i did offer them to im | 13:00 |
| kanzure | *him | 13:00 |
| jrayhawk_ | ah | 13:00 |
| kanzure | i had openscad and stl and then some step stuff, but i never installed the dependencies for step/iges rendering | 13:01 |
| kanzure | i think the idea of source code to generate geometries is correct, but it's unfortunate that openscad couples a gui toolkit with a custom language and then the geometry stuff under the hood. | 13:02 |
| kanzure | i think step/iges suffers from similar problems as stl (but not as much), like if you define a surface in a step file you're sort of stuck with it | 13:03 |
| kanzure | oh wait, you can jiggle nurbs parameters like knots i think | 13:04 |
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| abetusk | kanzure, would you be satisfied if there were a headless openscad compiler? | 13:54 |
| kanzure | not really, why does there have to be a custom language? | 13:57 |
| kanzure | why not just make bindings to existing languages | 13:57 |
| abetusk | how're those brlcad python bindings coming? | 13:58 |
| kanzure | needs more users to help test them out | 13:58 |
| kanzure | the bindings get generated but there's a few failure modes that i haven't identified | 13:58 |
| kanzure | but also, i expect that some simplified modeling layer on top of python-brlcad is necessary because of the unfortunately large amount of symbols that ctypesgen dumps on you | 13:59 |
| kanzure | resasons that extra layer is required is because nothing operates like you would expect it to operate in python land. you have to pass ctypes-constructed pointers around sometimes and other non-obvious things. | 14:01 |
| ParahSailin | too hard to go the cython way? | 14:05 |
| kanzure | there were a number of problems with the cython way, but then a blocker related to running cython during a post-install script i think | 14:07 |
| kanzure | the bindings generated by ctypesgen in python-brlcad are currently working, so i'm fairly happy with it | 14:07 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad | 14:07 |
| abetusk | Anyway, this is why I think brlcad hasn't caught on... | 14:08 |
| kanzure | hm? | 14:09 |
| ParahSailin | tell that to the folks in astan getting shot with brlcad designed tanks | 14:09 |
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| frege | paperbot: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/6492338_Review_of_over-the-counter_topical_scar_treatment_products | 14:36 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/94d40441124dc73d9e4a402f026d87ca.txt | 14:36 |
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| frege | how can I get the paper? | 14:36 |
| frege | paperbot: Review of over-the-counter topical scar treatment products | 14:36 |
| EnLilaSko | paperbot is partially "broken", so can't fetch everything | 14:37 |
| EnLilaSko | Post to /r/shcolar | 14:37 |
| EnLilaSko | I mean /r/scholar | 14:37 |
| EnLilaSko | http://drsnijman.co.za/includes/Scar%20therapy.pdf?origin=publication_detail | 14:38 |
| frege | EnLilaSko: why is it broken? | 14:38 |
| frege | who is in charge of its dev? | 14:38 |
| EnLilaSko | I have no idea | 14:39 |
| EnLilaSko | It's kanzure's bot | 14:39 |
| EnLilaSko | https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot#readme | 14:39 |
| frege | oh boy | 14:41 |
| frege | parsing html/xml | 14:41 |
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| frege | whose accounts are being used kanzure ? | 14:41 |
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| ParahSailin | thats on a need to know basis | 14:47 |
| kanzure | frege: it actually uses zotero/translation-server and gecko for most parsing | 14:56 |
| kanzure | frege: the backup parsing inside paperbot is stupid and not worth anyone's time | 14:56 |
| kanzure | frege: it's possible that updating the translators.git submodule would bring some benefits (somewhat-better updated parsers in case any of the target publishers have changed how they present their pdfs) | 14:57 |
| frege | right | 15:01 |
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| bertmy | paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1164865 | 18:38 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Tough%2C%20Bio-Inspired%20Hybrid%20Materials.pdf | 18:38 |
| kanzure | ugh the "csv programming language" here is annoying http://opentrons.com/ | 19:21 |
| kanzure | why do programmers even bother with this.. just use an actual language if you need to make something turing complete. | 19:21 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s00170-012-4605-2 | 19:23 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ab74071a217eeec562baff8970be1822.txt | 19:23 |
| ParahSailin | because biologists use excel | 19:27 |
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| nmz787 | wtf that paper is in my home dir already on diyhplus | 19:28 |
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| kanzure | ParahSailin: :\ | 19:34 |
| ParahSailin | but shit in all seriousness the sorts of recipes you do on a 96 or 384 well plate are bonehead simple, usually just two solutions | 19:35 |
| ParahSailin | or maybe two solutions and a master mix of some sort that goes in everything | 19:35 |
| kanzure | yeah but they have this android app for stringing together cvs files as if it's a programming language | 19:36 |
| kanzure | my point is that this seems a little absurd | 19:36 |
| ParahSailin | oh i didnt see that, i just clicked software and it looks like you put the recipes in tabular format | 19:36 |
| kanzure | maybe i misinterpreted | 19:37 |
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