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| nmz787 | well this is crazy and hard to tell if based on reality http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2489954/ | 11:26 |
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| drewbug | Anyone have any tips on getting a cheap CT head scan? | 11:33 |
| FourFire | don't have anything metal on you | 11:35 |
| FourFire | really, DO NOT | 11:35 |
| drewbug | Why do you say that? | 11:35 |
| drewbug | I thought that was just more of a problem for an MRI. | 11:35 |
| nmz787 | CT is x-rays | 11:36 |
| nmz787 | metal will just mess up the image if in field-of-view | 11:37 |
| drewbug | Okay, cool. | 11:37 |
| drewbug | I meant something more along the lines of "Where can I get a super-cheap CT scan?" | 11:37 |
| gradstudentbot | I haven't seen my PI in like a week. | 11:37 |
| nmz787 | dental college | 11:37 |
| nmz787 | but you will have to do some convincing that you need it | 11:37 |
| nmz787 | generally they only give them for major facial reconstruction or for braces maybe | 11:38 |
| drewbug | I can't just say "for a Science project"? | 11:39 |
| nmz787 | i wanted them to do it before grinding at some cavities, but they said they couldn't use the 3D data in their treatment plan so I didn't press them to get it done | 11:39 |
| nmz787 | I should have :( | 11:39 |
| nmz787 | no they'll give you shit about radiation levels, even though its worth like 1 airplane ride across the U.S. (6 or 8 hours at 30k ft elevation) | 11:39 |
| kanzure | why do you need it to be cheap? wouldn't an expensive CT scan work just as effectively? | 11:39 |
| nmz787 | yeah I don't think it was particularly expensive, maybe a few hundred dollars at most | 11:40 |
| drewbug | kanzure: Not from my wallet's POV. | 11:40 |
| nmz787 | i say that because they charged like $80 for dental x-ray images | 11:40 |
| drewbug | The places around me are >$900 | 11:40 |
| nmz787 | if you want cheaper go to russia (or thailand or india) | 11:40 |
| nmz787 | seriously though | 11:41 |
| nmz787 | DIY is an option, but it will cost much more than a few hundred in your time | 11:41 |
| nmz787 | and if you screw up, you could overdose on x-rays | 11:41 |
| drewbug | Yeah, I'd considered trying to DIY it. | 11:41 |
| drewbug | But both of those reasons led me to just want to pay someone to do it. | 11:42 |
| nmz787 | you probably shouldn't, but ben krasnow has some videos of him doing a scan on a frozen chicken | 11:42 |
| drewbug | It's not like I'll need it more than once. | 11:42 |
| drewbug | Heh. | 11:42 |
| drewbug | What about lying and saying I want one for religious purposes or something? | 11:42 |
| nmz787 | probably not gonna fly at a medical facility | 11:43 |
| nmz787 | maybe if your local church has one | 11:43 |
| nmz787 | :P | 11:43 |
| drewbug | Actually, the local hospital is church-run or something, I believe. | 11:43 |
| drewbug | But I doubt that'd work. | 11:43 |
| drewbug | Hmm. | 11:43 |
| nmz787 | you can tell them you want braces or something | 11:44 |
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| nmz787 | whatever operation they need a CT for | 11:44 |
| nmz787 | then say you changed your mind, then request your records | 11:44 |
| drewbug | Interesting. | 11:44 |
| nmz787 | you will need to do some research on what those operations are | 11:44 |
| drewbug | I'd tell that to the dentist, then, no? | 11:44 |
| drewbug | I'll do that now. | 11:44 |
| nmz787 | likely only something cosmetic is gonna entice them if you don't have legit teeth problems | 11:45 |
| nmz787 | but then they might only give you the CT around your mouth | 11:45 |
| nmz787 | is that the area you want? | 11:45 |
| nmz787 | I don't know how big the field-of-view is with those machines | 11:46 |
| kanzure | i have had the worst luck with requesting records | 11:47 |
| nmz787 | my local dental college was a simple 1 page form | 11:48 |
| nmz787 | you could get images via snail mail, or unsecured email for digital | 11:48 |
| nmz787 | well I say images, but they would also send the paper stuff that consists of dental reports etc | 11:49 |
| nmz787 | s/paper/written/ | 11:49 |
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| FourFire | "i wanted them to do it before grinding at some cavities, but they said they couldn't use the 3D data in their treatment plan so I didn't press them to get it done" what? I get one for every dental checkup | 12:09 |
| FourFire | (but then they stick this thing in your mouth and it's a locallized emitter gun | 12:09 |
| nmz787 | are you sure that's not just a digital sensor in your mouth? | 12:15 |
| nmz787 | FourFire: you get a CT for every checkup? | 12:15 |
| FourFire | probably just an x-ray sensor in my mouth and an localized x-ray gun | 12:16 |
| FourFire | but yeah, the do that every checkup | 12:16 |
| nmz787 | that's likely 2D | 12:17 |
| nmz787 | not CT | 12:17 |
| nmz787 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_computed_tomography | 12:17 |
| FourFire | you know it's radiation of some kind because the attendent gets out of there pretty quickly and activates the gun remotely | 12:17 |
| FourFire | yeah, thatæs it | 12:17 |
| nmz787 | https://www.google.com/search?q=ct+scanner&source=lnms&tbm=isch | 12:18 |
| nmz787 | those are all table based | 12:18 |
| nmz787 | the mouth only with local tube is 2D | 12:18 |
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| ParahSailin | "I want to incorporate certain genes from a certain animal into myself" | 13:09 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: https://twitter.com/shit_rbtc_says | 13:10 |
| ParahSailin | heh | 13:11 |
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| drewbug | nmz787: Sorry for disappearing earlier. I want the whole skull, not just the area around the mouth. | 13:48 |
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| drewbug | It looks like I might be able to get one from "vision problems, muscle weakness, numbness and tingling, hearing loss, speaking difficulties, or swallowing problems". | 13:49 |
| drewbug | paperbot, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12558249 | 13:59 |
| drewbug | paperbot, http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/113/1/10.1121/1.1529663 | 14:00 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Scitation%3A%20Experimental%20demonstration%20of%20noninvasive%20transskull%20adaptive%20focusing%20based%20on%20prior%20computed%20tomography%20scans.txt | 14:00 |
| nmz787 | do you want to do brain surgery? | 14:05 |
| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Experimental_demonstration_of_noninvasive_transskull_adaptive_focusing_based_on_prior_computed_tomography_scans.pdf | 14:06 |
| nmz787 | drewbug: ^ | 14:06 |
| drewbug | I found it elsewhere, but thank you! | 14:07 |
| drewbug | Not surgery, just neuromodulation. | 14:07 |
| drewbug | nmz787: Did you have to pay for that? | 14:34 |
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| ParahSailin | ion proton is not completely worthless | 17:47 |
| kanzure | you are their worst spokesperson | 17:48 |
| ParahSailin | they get what they pay for | 17:48 |
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| nmz787 | drewbot: are you drewbug? | 20:18 |
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| ParahSailin | "This is the first programming language to be publicly released from a plane flying over the Atlantic Ocean. I'm almost certain of that." | 20:46 |
| kanzure | does releasing it to your buddy in the seat next to you count? | 21:06 |
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