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| entelechios | the title i referred to is a collection of varying ideas on the subject of biophysics as it relates to consciousness, many of which are in opposition to each other | 00:00 |
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| kanzure | yes i looked at it, it looks like a typical "classic/quantum" debate | 00:01 |
| entelechios | nah | 00:01 |
| kanzure | either the summary is wrong or the book is just genuinely boring | 00:01 |
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| entelechios | well, got anything more interesting or are you just going to spew acerbic attitude all over a channel that used to be way more intersting before you were the #1 person to fill it with chatter at all | 00:01 |
| kanzure | "more interesting"... yes, i was having a pleasant conversation with archels (who works in a neuroscience lab of some sort) | 00:02 |
| kanzure | someone who apparently is more informed about the drawbacks of these theories than you :\ | 00:03 |
| entelechios | yeah, archels is chill, you were giving him the exact same bullshit though. not constructive or interesting or pleasant. | 00:03 |
| kanzure | blah | 00:03 |
| kanzure | it doesn't look like that at all, he was complaining about penrose | 00:03 |
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| entelechios | seen obviously | 00:04 |
| ruphos | what is the unobvious way to see, and what is it that is being seen? | 00:11 |
| entelechios | this is what i see -- shitty attitudes that do absolutely nothing to encourage the general population to aspire towards giving a damn about anything we care about | 00:12 |
| entelechios | on top of doing absolutely nothing to bring any of ourselves who might feel like things are hopeless in terms of getting it together enough to see beyond our little bubbles of perception | 00:13 |
| entelechios | to somewhere more useful | 00:13 |
| entelechios | the unobvious way to see? i'm sure we could work it out | 00:14 |
| ruphos | while that still doesn't explain what your "seen obviously" comment means, I'll bite. Why does a shared label mean that we have the same end goals? | 00:22 |
| entelechios | coming back to this conversation... i doubt the unobvious way to see things has anything to do with your typical attitudes of 'ugh fuck off' when someone isn't on the same level as you may be. a shared label, well, clarification on what you mean by that? | 00:23 |
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| entelechios | and 'seen obviously' as in i had read the conversation and was referring to kanzure acting as if i hadn't | 00:24 |
| ruphos | presumably people are here, idling, lurking, chatting or otherwise do to a shared interest in transhumanism, h+, diy etc. (or are feds, because internet.) Often people translate an interest into a label they can use to generalize expectations of behavior. | 00:28 |
| entelechios | heh the feds do. | 00:28 |
| entelechios | in this channel, specifically. | 00:28 |
| entelechios | someone got busted in here for getting too chatty not too long ago | 00:30 |
| ruphos | oh? do tell | 00:31 |
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| delinquentme | soooooo bio-it world is claiming (ish ) that illumina is owned by apple | 02:20 |
| delinquentme | =/ | 02:20 |
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| eudoxia | ah, yes, roger "it's true, i know because i did the experiments IN MY HEAD" penrose strikes again | 03:20 |
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| chris_99 | lol | 05:29 |
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| kanzure | "encouraging the general population" is not our job | 08:12 |
| kanzure | "any of ourselves who might feel like things are hopeless" my job isn't to babysit your depression | 08:12 |
| ParahSailin | i hear #lesswrong is good for that | 08:17 |
| kanzure | they are also good at calculating depression | 08:20 |
| ParahSailin | 60.33 percent repeating | 08:30 |
| Urchin[emacs] | they're mostly obsessed with procrastination, from what I've seen so far | 08:33 |
| kanzure | http://www.coindesk.com/reality-keys-bitcoins-third-party-guarantor-contracts/ | 08:35 |
| kanzure | i feel like the name "reality keys" could be a hilarious joke about something like cognitive dissonance | 08:35 |
| kanzure | "Unreality Financial Holdings, Inc." | 08:35 |
| kanzure | "Your Funds Are Probably Okay, Inc." | 08:36 |
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| kanzure | ParahSailin: http://microcorruption.com/ you must play | 08:54 |
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| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v2/n9/full/nmeth787.html | 11:43 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnmeth787 | 11:43 |
| kanzure | "Could not connect to the database: User 'scimag_read' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource (current value: 20)" | 11:48 |
| kanzure | fun times | 11:48 |
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| jrayhawk | nmeth787 is definitely a classier pseudonym | 11:58 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.careers4u.tv/chinese-students-hooked-up-to-iv-drips-to-boost-energy-and-concentration/ | 15:31 |
| chris_99 | i just saw that, seems a bit OTT to me | 15:31 |
| kanzure | ott? | 15:31 |
| kanzure | "To make things easier for the students, they are allowed to bring the drips into their classroom so they can continue studying." | 15:31 |
| chris_99 | over the top | 15:32 |
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