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| kanzure | http://blahah.net/2014/02/11/knowledge-sets-us-free/ | 07:35 |
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| kanzure | "The Liberator: A web crawler that scrapes publishers websites and submits papers along with all their supplementary files and metadata to the Liberator network. The scraping uses Zotero’s community-maintained translators which already cover all the major publishers and many minor ones. It doesn’t duplicate effort - it checks whether a paper is already free before liberating it. It can securely update over-the-air to add workarounds when ... | 07:35 |
| kanzure | ... publishers start trying to block the crawler. It can also find databases from all commonly used reference managers and anonymise and liberate their contents." | 07:35 |
| kanzure | "A torrent tracker with features that allow effective search and display of scientific papers. It produces RSS feeds that contain random subsets of the new papers in the network, so that new papers are evenly spread out around all seeders without anyone having to host all papers. These are minor modifications to existing open source torrent trackers, like Gazelle." | 07:35 |
| kanzure | "Browser plugins that run Liberator whenever an academic publisher’s website is visited. This is a trivial extension to the Zotero connector plugins." | 07:36 |
| kanzure | eh this seems to be another "just use a torrent and magically a thousand people will start seeding" fallacy | 07:36 |
| streety | I'd be interested in how they plan to anonymize the uploads | 07:47 |
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| streety | Do we actually know how much storage space such a project would need? How many gigabytes would you need to store all scientific articles ever published? | 07:59 |
| kanzure | about 50 TB | 08:05 |
| kanzure | average 1 MB/pdf * 50 million papers | 08:05 |
| streety | it doesn't seem like that much, a fairly small team with modest storage would be viable | 08:09 |
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| kanzure | yep | 08:11 |
| kanzure | but once you have everything, how do you make other people have everything, in a way that does not compromise your safety? | 08:11 |
| streety | a vpn to a server in a country where they don't bother with this sort of nonsense? | 08:14 |
| kanzure | and how do you safely pay for that server? | 08:15 |
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| streety | would it actually matter? If you have a plausible explanation for purchasing services from the provider would it be possible to tie you to a particular server without the cooperation of the provider? | 08:20 |
| streety | If they have that then they will know who connects to the server and the payment is irrelevant | 08:21 |
| streety | how does paperbot get around this issue? | 08:22 |
| kanzure | you would have to trust that the provider would not rat you out. that's a pretty big hole in the plan, you know. | 08:22 |
| kanzure | you're welcome to hypotheize about the function of paperbot | 08:22 |
| kanzure | *hypothesize | 08:22 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot | 08:23 |
| superkuh | paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/343/6173/857.full | 08:31 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Dendritic%20Inhibition%20in%20the%20Hippocampus%20Supports%20Fear%20Learning.pdf | 08:32 |
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| streety | kanzure: My impression is that paperbot just ignores the issue. It seems very much linked to you. | 08:38 |
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| kanzure | yep, it's a pretty bad implementation | 08:45 |
| kanzure | but also it's not downloading the entirety of the known universe | 08:46 |
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| streety | true | 08:52 |
| kanzure | hah http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dopamine-cryptocurrency-mining-case-by-red-harbinger | 08:57 |
| kanzure | "dopamine" | 08:57 |
| streety | "We are a veteran owned and operated group of guys" are veterans getting into slavery now? | 09:00 |
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| streety | I thought mining had moved beyond GPUs now | 09:04 |
| streety | seems reasonably priced though | 09:04 |
| kanzure | i was just laughing at the name really. the other stuff doesn't look interesting. | 09:13 |
| kanzure | scrypt mining is still gpu | 09:14 |
| streety | which currency uses scrypt? | 09:23 |
| kanzure | litecoin dogecoin bbqcoin etc | 09:23 |
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| streety | quite a few then | 09:28 |
| kanzure | yes | 09:29 |
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| chris_99 | is there no FPGA implementation? | 09:35 |
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| streety | chris_99: I think scrypt was designed to prevent easy optimization using FPGAs or custom ASICs | 09:48 |
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| chris_99 | well i'm thinking if you can run it on a GPU i can't see anything stopping you running it on an FPGA | 09:52 |
| chris_99 | as i know at least Altera supports OpenCL too on FPGAs | 09:52 |
| streety | maybe, I don't know that much about it. Possibly it can be tuned to make GPUs, FPGAs etc nonviable but it isn't at that point yet | 09:54 |
| kanzure | shrug, scrypt asics are being fabricated at the moment | 09:54 |
| kanzure | here's an fpga scrypt implementation https://github.com/kramble/FPGA-Litecoin-Miner | 09:56 |
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| streety | wow, the number of hashes being done for bitcoin just seems insane http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ | 09:58 |
| kanzure | that is a good thing | 10:00 |
| streety | in what sense? | 10:01 |
| nsh_ | more hashpower == better security | 10:04 |
| nsh_ | (assuming decentralization) | 10:04 |
| kanzure | it increases the cost of attacking the network | 10:05 |
| streety | fair enough, seems very unattractive for any newcomers though | 10:08 |
| kanzure | what? a new user gets the protection of the network. | 10:10 |
| streety | I mean in terms of successfully mining bitcoins | 10:13 |
| streety | I'm not arguing against it as a currency | 10:13 |
| kanzure | oh, well, if you want to contribute to mining, you can join a pool, i guess | 10:14 |
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| kanzure | sina? | 21:21 |
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| kanzure | just don't implement oauth2 | 22:48 |
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