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| dbolser | justanotheruser, kanzure: ty | 02:03 |
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| dbolser | 'use your words' lol | 02:03 |
| dbolser | hplus coin? | 02:04 |
| dbolser | I want to start an alt coin from scratch just for learning | 02:04 |
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| sacredhatred | good morning | 06:50 |
| eudoxia | hi hi | 06:50 |
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| kanzure | dbolser: then you might as well use coingen.io | 07:04 |
| kanzure | dbolser: but you could also just use testnet or regtest if you want to learn | 07:04 |
| kanzure | dbolser: e.g. testnet-in-a-box (but really, i prefer regtest) | 07:05 |
| eudoxia | i think with he meant "from scratch" as in from scratch | 07:06 |
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| kanzure | i doubt it, all the stupid altcoins are never from scratch | 07:18 |
| eudoxia | it would probably be a lot of work to start from scratch | 07:19 |
| kanzure | ooh look at me fucking scared of doing things :) | 07:19 |
| kanzure | "work"! | 07:19 |
| kanzure | hehe | 07:19 |
| eudoxia | plus there's the fact that bitcoin is battle-tested and a new from-scratch coin would have a shitload of security holes | 07:20 |
| kanzure | most of the forks have security problems anyway | 07:20 |
| dbolser | scratch-ish... | 07:20 |
| dbolser | fork | 07:20 |
| kanzure | https://index.docker.io/u/freewil/bitcoin-testnet-box/ | 07:21 |
| dbolser | tys | 07:21 |
| kanzure | scienceexchange just spammed me about ubiome | 07:27 |
| kanzure | so i guess ubiome isn't dead yet | 07:27 |
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| eudoxia | has anyone proposed a cryptocoin with some form of universal basic income? | 07:36 |
| kanzure | proof of stake? | 07:36 |
| eudoxia | not just for miners | 07:37 |
| kanzure | jojack was proposing a concept of social bonds | 07:38 |
| kanzure | where everyone gets a distribution of the bonds and they are transferable to whoever | 07:38 |
| kanzure | and at some point in the future they mature into a payout | 07:38 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure_(mailing_list) | 08:13 |
| kanzure | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7427865 | 08:13 |
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| kanzure | hm what's CISSP https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7428563 | 08:16 |
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| cluckj | certified internal security professional | 09:06 |
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| phillyj | hey kanzure, the Sambrook manual you got on diyhpl.us didn't seem to download properly for me. You know if it's broken? | 10:35 |
| phillyj | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11189251 | 10:36 |
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| kanzure | no i don't know | 11:01 |
| kanzure | phillyj: rename to .djvu and use a djvu viewer to view it | 11:09 |
| phillyj | ooo | 11:10 |
| phillyj | ic | 11:10 |
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| cluckj | kanzure is it just you and ParahSailin working on paperbot? | 12:59 |
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| kanzure | cluckj: i may have forged ParahSailin's name, i forget | 13:01 |
| ParahSailin | cluckj: you know how in textbooks there are parts labeled "exercise left to the reader" | 13:02 |
| kanzure | textbooks? this ain't no learnatorium. | 13:03 |
| ParahSailin | this is example of shovel-ready project just ripe for new contributors | 13:03 |
| kanzure | that's for sure.. a very large chunk of paperbot can easily be thrown out and refactored pretty fast. | 13:04 |
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| cluckj | lol | 13:14 |
| cluckj | I started writing about paperbot today, and I think I need to know more about it | 13:14 |
| kanzure | imagine a pile of crap | 13:15 |
| kanzure | and then imagine an even bigger pile of crap | 13:15 |
| kanzure | and uh.. well i don't know what to imagine next, but the point is crap. | 13:15 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot | 13:15 |
| cluckj | okay | 13:16 |
| cluckj | by crap you mean the code? | 13:17 |
| kanzure | yes | 13:17 |
| cluckj | it seems to work, most of the time | 13:17 |
| cluckj | despite the crapitude | 13:17 |
| kanzure | everything in this function is bad: https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/blob/master/modules/papers.py#L18 | 13:17 |
| kanzure | programming is like engineering, like building an airplane that is meant to not fall apart and be generally maintainable | 13:18 |
| kanzure | and the source code in that file is not anything nearly maintainable or good | 13:18 |
| kanzure | very little separation of concerns | 13:18 |
| kanzure | no tests | 13:18 |
| kanzure | hardcoded edge cases in the wrong places | 13:18 |
| cluckj | so it's a slapdash hack to (barely) perform its duty (sometimes)? | 13:19 |
| kanzure | dependency on phenny even though phenny isn't actually necessary for anything that the non-bot related portion of paperbot does | 13:19 |
| kanzure | yes and i deeply regret doing it that way | 13:19 |
| cluckj | why? | 13:19 |
| kanzure | you may be interested in seeing v2 https://github.com/kanzure/papermonk | 13:19 |
| kanzure | because it means that it makes it impossible for others to contribute to | 13:20 |
| kanzure | including myself in most cases, unless i have time to rewrite all of it or whatever | 13:20 |
| cluckj | lol | 13:20 |
| cluckj | I'm afraid I need to ask some really stupid questions | 13:23 |
| cluckj | please let me know when you have a few minutes? | 13:24 |
| kanzure | i'm around | 13:24 |
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| cluckj | alright, thanks | 13:28 |
| cluckj | let me try to rephrase these so they aren't so obtuse | 13:29 |
| kanzure | you can also call me if you prefer 512-203-0507 | 13:29 |
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| cluckj | nah I'd have to transcribe the questions/answers anyway, which is a big pain in the ass | 14:15 |
| kanzure | master roshi's turtle school of typing | 14:20 |
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| cluckj | hah | 14:42 |
| cluckj | I don't have time to get to my final form | 14:43 |
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| cluckj | hmm, I need to go see oron catts at 7, so I'll bug you about paperbot tomorrow | 14:50 |
| kanzure | yep, i'm doing an airport run now anyway | 14:54 |
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| kanzure | okay i'm back ish | 17:26 |
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