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| xentrac | hey, here's a crazy idea that I've been thinking about | 00:52 |
| xentrac | Snell's law is not just nonlinear, but goes to have this massive slope in the region around total internal reflection | 00:53 |
| xentrac | and in particular if you have a small crack in a piece of glass, that crack is almost invisible before you get very close to total internal reflection | 00:54 |
| xentrac | that means that a small change in either the angle of incidence or in the refractive index can result in a very large change in the behavior of light traveling through | 00:56 |
| xentrac | refractive index is a product of electric susceptibility | 01:00 |
| xentrac | but typically susceptibility is not constant, but diminishes to zero at sufficiently large field strengths | 01:01 |
| xentrac | this suggests that you should be able to switch a cracked piece of glass between near-perfect transmission and total internal reflection at a particular angle by applying a strong electric field | 01:03 |
| xentrac | at frequencies close to the frequency of light | 01:03 |
| xentrac | (this phenomenon is used in frequency-doubling crystals for green lasers) | 01:03 |
| xentrac | what I don't know is whether the electric field needed to produce a sufficiently large change in the critical incident angle for total internal reflection is a reasonably small field | 01:06 |
| xentrac | you want the field to be small enough that it doesn't result in avalanche breakdown of the glass, for example | 01:07 |
| xentrac | and you want the critical angle to change by more than the dispersion angle of the lasers you have handy | 01:08 |
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| norepinetree | anyone a tDCS user? | 01:12 |
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| juul | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0958694698000405 | 02:16 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e948307177530d0cf21bc041b84a351a.txt | 02:16 |
| juul | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0958694698000405/pdf?md5=cbad5842e2b789841f8ecd1b009f2aff&pid=1-s2.0-S0958694698000405-main.pdf | 02:17 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/23f1a77e162fef6d98753e70545338f6.pdf | 02:17 |
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| juul | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022030284813326 | 02:53 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c1053cf94632d7e333bc0fc2a149f6c1.txt | 02:53 |
| juul | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022030284813326/pdf | 02:53 |
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| juul | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/S0022029900017295 | 03:01 |
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| juul | paperbot: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=5160356&fulltextType=RA&fileId=S0022029900017295 | 03:05 |
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| kanzure | "How I obtained the private key for www.cloudflarechallenge.com" https://gist.github.com/epixoip/10570627 | 08:53 |
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| chris_99 | anyone ever used high precision linear encoders out of interest | 10:15 |
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| kanzure | xentrac: have you considered the feasibility of mental-only rsa arithmetic? or at least, some simplification of rsa arithmetic that could be trachtenberged. | 10:37 |
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| kanzure | http://diswww.mit.edu/menelaus/cpunks/12956 | 10:48 |
| kanzure | hah in that 1994 email tim mays says something like "on the extropians list a while back [i have since left that mailing list]" :) | 10:48 |
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| kanzure | remote: 2014/04/13 11:09:14 socat[726] E connect(3, AF=1 "/home/gnusha/.irssi/socket", 28): Connection refused | 11:09 |
| kanzure | found some old transcripts from singularity summit 2009: | 11:10 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/singularity-summit-2009/anders-sandberg | 11:10 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/singularity-summit-2009/ed-boyden | 11:10 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/singularity-summit-2009/anna-salamon | 11:17 |
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| Tuxedage | Hi | 11:40 |
| Tuxedage | I want to upload myself into my computer | 11:40 |
| Tuxedage | what's the easiest way to do it | 11:40 |
| kanzure | http://3scan.com/ | 11:40 |
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| kanzure | of course, the problem is software at that point | 11:41 |
| kanzure | but the actual scanning is doable these days | 11:41 |
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| Tuxedage | Ah, so it's a software problem | 11:41 |
| kanzure | well, i mean, i just linked you to someone that has some hardware | 11:42 |
| kanzure | i could show you NEURON, but then you'd complain even more | 11:42 |
| kanzure | nobody has actually loaded up all that data into a hebbian-style whole brain emulation yet | 11:44 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/brain-emulation-roadmap-report.pdf | 11:44 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/nematodeuploadproject/ | 11:47 |
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| Tuxedage | Sorry, I wasn't expecting a serious answer. | 11:53 |
| Tuxedage | I was parodying people who would go into channels and ask for the impossible | 11:53 |
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| eudoxia | http://www.izhikevich.org/human_brain_simulation/Blue_Brain.htm#Simulation%20of%20Large-Scale%20Brain%20Models | 11:56 |
| eudoxia | >On October 27, 2005 I finished simulation of a model that has the size of the human brain. The model has 100,000,000,000 neurons | 11:56 |
| eudoxia | >One second of simulation took 50 days on a beowulf cluster of 27 processors | 11:56 |
| eudoxia | http://www.izhikevich.org/human_brain_simulation/why.htm | 11:56 |
| eudoxia | Tuxedage: so you're gonna have to wait for at least two years | 11:57 |
| Tuxedage | Somehow I doubt we're only two years away from EMs | 11:57 |
| eudoxia | assuming you have a few million dollars for the supercomputer, or at least storageu until computers get better | 11:57 |
| eudoxia | well, it wasn't exactly an ab initio simulation of every atom in the brain | 11:58 |
| cpopell | eudoxia: read the FY2015 DARPA budget request? | 11:58 |
| eudoxia | cpopell: no, why? does it have brain stuff | 11:59 |
| cpopell | a whole fuckton | 11:59 |
| cpopell | by which I mean at least a few lines | 11:59 |
| cpopell | http://www.darpa.mil/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=2147487546 ctrl+f 'memory' should bring you most of it | 12:00 |
| eudoxia | yeah, i was just reading it now and they seem to care a lot about memory | 12:01 |
| cpopell | http://www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/BTO/Programs/ here's a list of BTO's programs | 12:01 |
| eudoxia | oh boy neuromorphic processors | 12:01 |
| kanzure | huh i found transcripts from hplus summit 2009 | 12:03 |
| kanzure | izhikevich's simulations do not have relevant connectivity | 12:04 |
| eudoxia | i know | 12:04 |
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| kanzure | really weird that i forgot about these | 12:06 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/ | 12:06 |
| kanzure | there they are. have fun. | 12:06 |
| kanzure | stuff that's fun: | 12:07 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/anselm-levksaya/ | 12:07 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/alex-lightman/ | 12:07 |
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| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/dylan-morris/ | 12:07 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/fahy/ | 12:08 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/greg-benford/ | 12:08 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/todd-huffman/ | 12:08 |
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| FourFire | eudoxia, I wonder, how fast that simulation would run on a Quad Titan Black array | 13:05 |
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| eudoxia | FourFire: slow? | 13:09 |
| FourFire | I don't get the chart: http://www.izhikevich.org/human_brain_simulation/why.htm | 13:10 |
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| FourFire | are they expecting processor power to double every year, or are they adding cores to make a net Ghz measure? | 13:11 |
| eudoxia | FourFire: given that in year X each processor will run at Y GHz, simulating the brain in real time would fake Z processors | 13:11 |
| kanzure | juri_: would you know where i can find backups of gnu.ai.mit.edu? | 13:12 |
| eudoxia | on 2016 we could build a million-processor cluster with SOA processors that simulates a brain in real time | 13:12 |
| nmz787 | FourFire: moores law has 10-20 years left til it stops working for predictions | 13:13 |
| FourFire | A single Nvidia Titan Black GPU has 2880 shader cores clocked at 890Mhz | 13:13 |
| nmz787 | according to current manufacturers speculations | 13:13 |
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| FourFire | moore's law, sure, but usable performance growth has slowed since ~2005 | 13:14 |
| nmz787 | FourFire: people still think it's going to take 20-40 years to fully simulate and compute genome data and neuronal interaction using all the atoms | 13:14 |
| nmz787 | *using physics modelling* | 13:14 |
| nmz787 | FourFire: it's kinda all the same... if you look at performance per watt | 13:15 |
| FourFire | sorry, is that taking exponential computing power growth trends for granted? | 13:15 |
| nmz787 | umm, manufacturers are trying to cut down on power per operation all over the place | 13:16 |
| nmz787 | that's a lot of the 'innovation' these days | 13:16 |
| nmz787 | "To store all synaptic weights, one needs 10,000 terabytes. Not even Google has that much free space." | 13:16 |
| cpopell | I strongly recommend that you guys check out http://www.itrs.net/Links/2012ITRS/2012Chapters/2012Overview.pdf and http://www.itrs.net/Links/2012ITRS/2012Chapters/MtM%20WG%20entirereport_final.pdf | 13:17 |
| nmz787 | as I mentioned last week, sequencing all the cancer patiens in the U.S. every 2 weeks would produce ~495 tera megabytes | 13:17 |
| nmz787 | (for 1 year | 13:17 |
| nmz787 | ) | 13:17 |
| FourFire | so, borky performance estimate says that we need ~136500 titan blacks, in order to simulate a human brain in real time | 13:18 |
| FourFire | but how much RAM is needed?? | 13:18 |
| yash | "simulate" | 13:18 |
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| eudoxia | that's the RAM | 13:19 |
| eudoxia | ten thousand terabytes | 13:19 |
| nmz787 | FourFire: and each one computing needs 384 watts | 13:19 |
| nmz787 | so you'd need 52 megawatts for that simulation | 13:20 |
| FourFire | this is assuming that a current GPU core, doesn't have better performance per clock than 2005 era 3Ghz processors | 13:20 |
| nmz787 | and it looks like the avg nuke in USA produces just over a MWh http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=104&t=3 | 13:21 |
| nmz787 | so you'd need a big ass nuke for this computer | 13:21 |
| eudoxia | so, not there yet | 13:21 |
| nmz787 | oh wait | 13:22 |
| cpopell | I was going to say | 13:22 |
| cpopell | uh | 13:22 |
| cpopell | your math | 13:22 |
| juri_ | uh oh. | 13:23 |
| juri_ | kanzure: yes, but why? ;) | 13:23 |
| cpopell | even the smallest nuke provides 502 MW, which is 10x what you said you need, nmz | 13:23 |
| nmz787 | maybe that's 1.3 GWh | 13:23 |
| eudoxia | detonating davy crocketts in cylinders full of water is not a sustainable power source | 13:24 |
| cpopell | eudoxia: I think he's screwing up his power math | 13:24 |
| cpopell | 52 megawatts is not that much all things considered | 13:25 |
| nmz787 | my math was 11.8 kWh * 10^9 * 1000 / 365/ 24 | 13:26 |
| cpopell | first, I think you're taking too many steps | 13:26 |
| cpopell | second, it was 11.8 billion kwh | 13:26 |
| cpopell | ah, *10^9 | 13:27 |
| cpopell | Anyway, just look at the smallest nuke they list, 502 MW | 13:27 |
| cpopell | look at your power needs, 52 MW | 13:27 |
| rk[1] | so, i see the topic mentions nootropics. i have some questions, about procurement; not sure if it is appropriate for such questions in this channel or not... | 13:37 |
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| FourFire | 24.3 Megawatts using the new GTX 750 Ti (they are more power efficient) | 14:44 |
| FourFire | but that's still 405 000 GPUs which need a motherboard, processor and power supply... | 14:45 |
| eudoxia | so not there yet | 14:48 |
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| kanzure | ugh i should convert http://sl4.org/wiki/action=rc&days=90000 to diyhpluswiki.git | 14:53 |
| eudoxia | i thought that place was supposed to be dead | 14:55 |
| kanzure | it is dead | 14:55 |
| kanzure | so was nanoengineer | 14:55 |
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| kanzure | AlonzoTG: what was #virus | 15:19 |
| kanzure | 2004-02-15 20:24:15 :Reason!~Reason@h-67-100-90-41.SNFCCASY.covad.net PUBMSG #vpsummit :I was just saying that you guys need a big clearly marked highway | 15:25 |
| kanzure | finally maybe i can dox reason | 15:25 |
| kanzure | 2004-02-29 17:47:22 :Natasha_Vita-More!~Natasha@dialup-67.74.179.138.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net QUIT #vpsummit :Natasha_Vita-More (~Natasha@dialup-67.74.179.138.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net) has quit IRC [Quit: Today is a good day to chat.] | 15:26 |
| kanzure | 2004-02-24 16:17:51 :ag24!~ag24@host217-43-118-164.range217-43.btcentralplus.com PUBMSG #vpsummit :he's a close friend of mine too, but he's still infuriatingly myopic about this stuff | 15:27 |
| kanzure | that's most likely aubrey | 15:27 |
| jrayhawk | re: gnusha: whoops, screwed up the symlink for autorunning that socket interface script | 15:27 |
| kanzure | 2004-02-14 13:23:38 :Max_More!~Max@cs6668150-102.austin.rr.com PUBMSG #vpsummit :Should I know what "NickServ" does? | 15:29 |
| jrayhawk | It's a spy! BURN IT! | 15:29 |
| gnusha | honk honk test test | 15:30 |
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| xentrac | kanzure: I have done RSA on paper, but the key was like 6 bits | 15:57 |
| xentrac | I suspect elliptic-curve cryptography is more practical to do by hand or in your head, but I don't think even that is practical to do in a secure way | 15:59 |
| kanzure | well, what if i say that brain scanning is an attack vector not covered by the technique, would your claim of insecurity still hold | 16:00 |
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| xentrac | I think I'm missing context here | 16:02 |
| xentrac | what did I claim was insecure? | 16:03 |
| kanzure | "don't think even that is practical to do in a secure way" | 16:03 |
| kanzure | i was assuming that you were going to say it's insecure because brain scanning | 16:04 |
| kanzure | but in the vast majority of cases at the moment brain scanning is not an available threat vector | 16:04 |
| xentrac | oh, I meant with large enough keys to be secure against brute-force attack using computers | 16:04 |
| kanzure | how large would the numbers have to be? | 16:06 |
| xentrac | presumably you could find a base-10 analogue of Curve25519, but how long will it take you to multiple two 70- or 80-digit numbers by hand? | 16:06 |
| kanzure | i think the hardest part wouldn't be the numbers (you could come up with some word-based encoding scheme) | 16:06 |
| kanzure | but rather the entropy | 16:06 |
| kanzure | well, trachtenberg math had people doing 80-digit multiplication in <30 seconds or osmething | 16:06 |
| xentrac | I don't think the entropy is particularly hard to come by | 16:06 |
| xentrac | really? | 16:06 |
| kanzure | i mean people choose low-entropy passwords all the time | 16:07 |
| xentrac | 80 digit by 80 digit? or 80 digit by 1 or 2 digit? | 16:07 |
| * kanzure thinks | 16:07 | |
| xentrac | oh, sure, it's easy to get the entropy wrong | 16:07 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachtenberg_system | 16:07 |
| xentrac | but you can roll some dice and you're in good shape | 16:07 |
| xentrac | yeah, I know what it is; I had Trachtenberg's book as a kid | 16:07 |
| kanzure | hmm so you're right that this doesn't focus on long-integer arithmetic | 16:08 |
| kanzure | and most people wont be able to do 80 digit numbers in their head let alone math manipulation | 16:08 |
| kanzure | but maybe using words to represent the numbers, and then multiplying is some transformation of the story of words | 16:08 |
| xentrac | maybe you could be more or less secure with shorter keys than Curve25519? | 16:10 |
| kanzure | "don't mind me, i'm just running a mixnet in my head" | 16:13 |
| xentrac | 4:1 So king Solomon was king over all the precious things thereof, and all the things that are to be executed sequentially; for any particular evaluation strategy. | 16:15 |
| xentrac | (from http://kingjamesprogramming.tumblr.com/page/3) | 16:16 |
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| xentrac | WP says: | 16:28 |
| xentrac | Since all the fastest known algorithms that allow one to solve the ECDLP (baby-step giant-step, Pollard's rho, etc.), need O(\sqrt{n}) steps, it follows that the size of the underlying field should be roughly twice the security parameter. For example, for 128-bit security one needs a curve over \mathbb{F}_q, where q \approx 2^{256} | 16:28 |
| xentrac | so you could probably get by with 160-bit keys, which would be about 48 decimal digits | 16:29 |
| kanzure | and maybe you can trick a person into thinking in base-16 | 16:32 |
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| xentrac | is it easier to multiply in base 16? | 16:37 |
| kanzure | no, but you can store more data with less digits | 16:38 |
| xentrac | in this case you would go from 48 decimal digits to 40 | 16:38 |
| kanzure | hrm not much help huh | 16:39 |
| xentrac | which would mean you'd have to do O(1600) work to do a multiplication instead of O(2304) | 16:39 |
| xentrac | so it's a significant improvement --- if the individual operations are about the same | 16:39 |
| kanzure | i would say base58 but then people would probably print out a chart to help them identify which symbols correspond to which values | 16:40 |
| kanzure | and then you would leak data by eye movements | 16:40 |
| xentrac | maybe you could just use base 100 | 16:41 |
| kanzure | what symbols do normalfolk use for base 100? digits, alphabet, and what else? | 16:41 |
| xentrac | pairs of base-10 digits | 16:42 |
| xentrac | you could plausibly memorize the ten thousand products of two-digit numbers | 16:43 |
| xentrac | it would probably take you a couple of years though | 16:43 |
| xentrac | 19:29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be carried out by an iterative process | 16:44 |
| kanzure | what is this, hitchhiker's guide to folklore.org? | 16:45 |
| xentrac | http://kingjamesprogramming.tumblr.com/page/10 | 16:46 |
| kanzure | what was the story about a king, some programmers, and stones? hm | 16:47 |
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| kanzure | "Implication of sperm RNAs in transgenerational inheritance of the effects of early trauma in mice" | 18:04 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nn.3695.html | 18:04 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnn.3695 | 18:04 |
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| yottabit | kanzure: hm, so yeah, i was paid to write something that was in the end scratched | 19:41 |
| yottabit | after the CI solution was brought to the floor | 19:42 |
| yottabit | makes sense | 19:42 |
| Tuxedage | yottabit, are you the same one involved in dogecoin? | 19:44 |
| Tuxedage | by any chance? | 19:44 |
| yottabit | nope | 19:47 |
| kanzure | yottabit: do you own it? | 19:47 |
| yottabit | kanzure: i don't know | 19:47 |
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| kanzure | yottabit: still getting paid anyway? | 19:52 |
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| kanzure | "Unfortunately it isn't obvious how to implement it practically." - anders | 20:20 |
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| kanzure | http://extropians.weidai.com/extropians.1Q98/0088.html "If you could extract a single bit from someone's mind-state, what would the bit encode, and whose mind would it be?" - wei dai in response to hal finney | 21:24 |
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| norepinetree | anyone wanna talk about tDCS? | 22:34 |
| justanotheruser | norepinetree: what is that? | 22:34 |
| norepinetree | from wikipedia: Transcranial direct current stimulation (tDCS) is a form of neurostimulation which uses constant, low current delivered directly to the brain area of interest via small electrodes. It was originally developed to help patients with brain injuries such as strokes. Tests on healthy adults demonstrated that tDCS can increase cognitive performance on a variety of tasks, depending... | 22:36 |
| norepinetree | ...on the area of the brain being stimulated.[1] It has been utilized to enhance language and mathematical ability, attention span, problem solving, memory, and coordination.[1] | 22:37 |
| justanotheruser | What part of that are you interested in? | 22:37 |
| norepinetree | I have the basic set-up, I just need to buy some accessories. I don't know what gel to buy, etc. | 22:38 |
| norepinetree | what h+ activities are you interested in? | 22:43 |
| kanzure | "No, that wouldn't work because the density of interstellar gas is too low." | 22:48 |
| xentrac | norepinetree: that sounds like a high-risk kind of enhancement to me | 22:53 |
| norepinetree | xentrac: you should check out reddit.com/r/tdcs for more info :) | 22:57 |
| norepinetree | what enhancements do you prefer? | 22:58 |
| xentrac | http://www.gwern.net/Drug%20heuristics#algernon-argument seems to apply to tDCS | 22:58 |
| xentrac | I read a lot, write a lot, program a lot, drink a lot of mate. Nothing particularly unusual. | 22:59 |
| norepinetree | Cool | 22:59 |
| xentrac | it actually mentions tDCS, although I had forgotten that | 23:00 |
| norepinetree | What do you write? read about? | 23:00 |
| norepinetree | This is a good read. No one has studied the long-term effects of tDCS. | 23:00 |
| cpopell | norepinetree: There are places you can buy tDCS hookups, and people on here have worked on them, but I unfortunately can't point you at resources any more. | 23:00 |
| cpopell | norepinetree: There might be some DTIC files on mid-term effects of tDCS | 23:00 |
| norepinetree | cpopell: honestly I was just looking for, like, gel suggestions. But I understand, in case of liability or something. | 23:01 |
| cpopell | Well | 23:01 |
| cpopell | there's also the subreddit | 23:01 |
| xentrac | http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/ has a lot of the things I write about. sorry it's not organized | 23:02 |
| cpopell | http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0361923007000111 pdf on safety aspects from 07 | 23:02 |
| xentrac | http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/2014-March/000990.html is an example that is somewhat relevant to h+ | 23:02 |
| norepinetree | yup | 23:02 |
| cpopell | BaaS? | 23:03 |
| norepinetree | I ordered thebrainstimulator | 23:03 |
| norepinetree | huh? | 23:03 |
| cpopell | @xentrac | 23:03 |
| norepinetree | sorry | 23:03 |
| xentrac | "backend as a service" | 23:03 |
| cpopell | Ah | 23:04 |
| cpopell | Right now my writing is confined to market analysis | 23:04 |
| cpopell | I'm wrapping up a 40 pager on DaaS | 23:04 |
| cpopell | which no one likes talking about | 23:04 |
| cpopell | because it's confusing | 23:04 |
| norepinetree | captain obvious: you are incredibly intelligent | 23:04 |
| norepinetree | me being captain obvious. that didn't really work in the irc context -_- | 23:05 |
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| norepinetree | you should talk to my girlfriend and be geniuses together | 23:05 |
| kanzure | yawn | 23:06 |
| xentrac | heh. who are you talking to? | 23:06 |
| kanzure | those statements are boring no matter who he was talking to | 23:06 |
| xentrac | cpopell: database? | 23:06 |
| cpopell | Yeah. | 23:06 |
| cpopell | xentrac, pm | 23:06 |
| kanzure | that's not fair now i'm not able to intrude on your conversation | 23:07 |
| norepinetree | cpopell: it's fascinating, I'm just not familiar with it. I'm a fiction writer and am awful at math. | 23:08 |
| cpopell | norepinetree: What sort of fiction writing do you do? | 23:08 |
| norepinetree | elizabethaldrich.com / holostatic.org | 23:09 |
| norepinetree | Nothing I'm really proud of, now I just like to code... and edit other people's manuscripts.. | 23:10 |
| xentrac | that's awesome | 23:10 |
| norepinetree | xentrac: me? | 23:11 |
| xentrac | yup | 23:12 |
| norepinetree | aw thanks | 23:12 |
| norepinetree | tell me about.. yourself | 23:12 |
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| cpopell | norepinetree: have you read any of Hannu Rajaniemi's work? | 23:13 |
| xentrac | norepinetree: http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-journal or http://canonical.org/~kragen/about | 23:13 |
| norepinetree | cpopell: no, what is he/she about? | 23:13 |
| cpopell | he's a physicist and co-founder of Helix Nanotechnologies who writes scifi in the stylings/tradition of Gene Wolfe | 23:14 |
| cpopell | incredibly dense post-singularity scifi | 23:15 |
| norepinetree | oooh | 23:15 |
| kanzure | zindell is the only gene wolfe imitator for me | 23:15 |
| norepinetree | xentrac: AHH I USED TO LIVE IN SF TOO. | 23:15 |
| cpopell | kanzure: oh god but A Requiem for Homo Sapiens is just so preachy | 23:15 |
| norepinetree | xentrac: I miss it so much :( which neighborhood did you live in? | 23:16 |
| kanzure | cpopell: stick to the book before that | 23:16 |
| cpopell | read it, it was decent. | 23:16 |
| cpopell | Did you read The Quantum Thief, though? | 23:16 |
| xentrac | first in the Richmond, then in Noe Valley, then at Geary and Masonic, which is sort of the intersection of three or four neighborhoods | 23:17 |
| xentrac | I miss it sometimes but Buenos Aires is pretty fabulous | 23:17 |
| kanzure | did you hang out at langton labs? | 23:17 |
| kanzure | it's a co-op best described as " ran by these guys http://3scan.com/ " but that's not quite right | 23:18 |
| xentrac | no, I don't know about it | 23:18 |
| xentrac | norepinetree: did you? | 23:18 |
| norepinetree | xantrac: nice! i lived on 12th & geary. | 23:19 |
| norepinetree | never heard of it | 23:19 |
| norepinetree | buenos aires does sound fabulous | 23:19 |
| norepinetree | they don't have ads there, right? (excuse my ignorance) | 23:20 |
| xentrac | is "ads" an acronym? | 23:20 |
| norepinetree | no... | 23:22 |
| norepinetree | I am confusing something in my head, sorry | 23:22 |
| cpopell | Man, the weather was nice the last few days | 23:22 |
| cpopell | *here | 23:22 |
| norepinetree | good! | 23:23 |
| norepinetree | same here in socal | 23:23 |
| cpopell | I grew up in SoCal. | 23:23 |
| cpopell | Ventura and San Diego counties | 23:23 |
| norepinetree | oh nice! | 23:23 |
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| kanzure | 20:17 < jgarzik> Calling all early seeders, for soon-to-be-announced bootstrap.dat updated torrent @ block 295000: http://gtf.org/garzik/bitcoin/bootstrap.dat.torrent If you have an old bootstrap.dat, bittorrent will automatically extend it when you switch to the new torrent. You effectively already have 81% of the new bootstrap.dat. | 23:28 |
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