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| kanzure | not quite right https://github.com/kanzure/modelo/commit/56e875e2f0703a4c0664a4b026805f9d4682beb9 | 05:58 |
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| nshsome | probably different key | 06:08 |
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| kanzure | good eye | 06:12 |
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| kanzure | yet another phantomjs/node bridge https://github.com/peerigon/phridge | 07:53 |
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| ebowden | kanzure, what do you think of setting up a medical research project and going after the most horrible people possible to fund it, like the KKK and Ted Nugent. | 08:20 |
| ebowden | kanzure, what do you think of setting up a medical research project and going after the most horrible people possible to fund it, like the KKK and Ted Nugent? | 08:21 |
| FourFire | ebowden, to what end? | 08:21 |
| kanzure | specifically what "medical research project"? | 08:21 |
| ebowden | FourFire, partly because you'd be taking advantage of sources of funding that practically no-one else will, and partly because I find the idea amusing. | 08:23 |
| kanzure | i don't think the KKK has any money | 08:23 |
| FourFire | what kanzure said | 08:23 |
| kanzure | obviously you should be submitting grant proposals to ISIS | 08:23 |
| kanzure | since they just stole $500 million | 08:23 |
| ebowden | They were just examples. | 08:23 |
| ebowden | LOL | 08:23 |
| kanzure | tell them you'll build them a nuke | 08:24 |
| kanzure | then steal their plutonium | 08:24 |
| kanzure | and build a time machine instead | 08:24 |
| ebowden | LOL | 08:24 |
| kanzure | this is a flawless plan | 08:24 |
| ebowden | What about getting funding from the heritage foundation? | 08:24 |
| kanzure | the who? | 08:25 |
| AlexDutchGreen | what did ted nugent do now | 08:25 |
| kanzure | .wik ted nugent | 08:26 |
| yoleaux | "Theodore Anthony "Ted" Nugent (/tɛd ˈnuːdʒɨnt/; born December 13, 1948) is an American rock musician from Detroit, Michigan. Nugent initially gained fame as the lead guitarist of The Amboy Dukes before embarking on a solo career." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_nugent | 08:26 |
| AlexDutchGreen | pay the kkk to go fight isis | 08:26 |
| AlexDutchGreen | 2 birds one stone | 08:26 |
| AlexDutchGreen | call it the crusades | 08:26 |
| AlexDutchGreen | and get rid of a lot of religious nutters | 08:26 |
| gradstudentbot | Seriously, who moved my samples? | 08:27 |
| AlexDutchGreen | oh he's straitedge | 08:28 |
| AlexDutchGreen | that is p weak | 08:28 |
| ebowden | kanzure, ultra right wing, admitted child molester. | 08:33 |
| kanzure | the heritage foundation is a child molester? | 08:34 |
| kanzure | i don't understand | 08:36 |
| kanzure | that sounds like you're describing ted nugent, but i didn't ask that question | 08:37 |
| ebowden | Ah, right. | 08:37 |
| ebowden | No, describing ted nugent, never mind. | 08:37 |
| kanzure | if academic libraries are all too afraid to publish their actual subscription costs, then maybe just put up a site with estimated/fake subscription costs instead | 08:48 |
| kanzure | and then people could use that as a proxy for the actual data | 08:48 |
| kanzure | ehsm feed http://zitflash1.desy.de/liveedge/_definst_/LiveStreams/liveHSIOS/playlist.m3u8 | 08:55 |
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| kanzure | "The Life Extension Foundation has provided funding to a company called Nanofactory Corporation" | 09:47 |
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| kanzure | .title http://www.zyvex.com/nanotech/selfRepNATO.html | 10:07 |
| yoleaux | Self replicating systems and low cost manufacturing | 10:07 |
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| kanzure | i'm not sure my z axis has a small enough step size to not completely destroy a 100x solid objective | 10:49 |
| kanzure | non-oil i mean | 10:49 |
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| kanzure | ugh | 11:13 |
| kanzure | .title http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11569-014-0197-7 | 11:13 |
| yoleaux | Transatlantic Divergences in Citizen Science Ethics—Comparative Analysis of the DIYbio Code of Ethics Drafts of 2011 | 11:13 |
| kanzure | what the fuck "It is also significant, and highly unusual, that DIYbio has maintained two separate codes of ethics years after their drafting." | 11:13 |
| kanzure | that's not unusual at all. there's more than two people, so therefore why would it be unusual that two people would think different things. | 11:13 |
| kanzure | "Finally, I recommend that the entire DIYbio organization unite under a single code of ethics, and that one of the existing drafts is superior to the other for this purpose." | 11:14 |
| kanzure | people are awful | 11:14 |
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| kanzure | "The International Laboratory for the Identification of Antibacterial Drugs(ILIAD) was started because of the lack of time and monetary investment by pharmaceutical companies in antibiotics. The goal is to search the globe for new and naturally occurring antibiotic compounds from plants, insects, bacteria, fungus and other organisms using simple tests" | 11:39 |
| kanzure | oh is that what he's doing. hrm. | 11:39 |
| mokstar | So, why isn't phage therapy more widespread? | 11:40 |
| mokstar | does it only work on russians? | 11:40 |
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| * mokstar 's mind just flashed with an idea of a dystopian reality where DIYbio hackers breed phages to combat common infections, while megacorps charge outrageous amounts of money for the remaining few effective antibiotic treatments. | 11:42 | |
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| kanzure | that sounds more or less like how it works today | 11:42 |
| kanzure | except not many people are doing antibody or phage work | 11:42 |
| kanzure | why would "people doing things" be considered dystopian? | 11:43 |
| mokstar | "It's not just about having fun with petri dishes anymore, it's about saving the lives of my neighbors." | 11:43 |
| mokstar | because it'd be illegal | 11:43 |
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| mokstar | people being caught between cruel microbiological realities and the cruel economics of the super-rich | 11:44 |
| mokstar | where a mother's womb is so corrupted by pervasive environmental toxins that in order to procreate, she must rent an artificial one | 11:48 |
| kanzure | unlikely. they would just use surrogates. | 11:49 |
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| mokstar | *pervasive* | 11:49 |
| mokstar | the Philippines did a brisk trade in surrogates, until the newfound wealth brought in the tide of xenoestrogens | 11:50 |
| kanzure | but not pervasive enough because your 'artificial wombs' are magically protected. ugh. | 11:50 |
| kanzure | (your scenario is inconsistent and annoying) | 11:50 |
| mokstar | well sorr-ee | 11:50 |
| kanzure | when planning the biological apocalypse, please be thoroughly consistent | 11:50 |
| mokstar | artificial wombs would protected, because they wouldn't be running around outside, breathing the air, touching things, and consuming food | 11:51 |
| mokstar | that's a whole other book | 11:51 |
| mokstar | one about japanese robot dolls, who have artificial wombs installed | 11:52 |
| kanzure | except that isolated environments already exist and have been tested | 11:52 |
| kanzure | so no you don't need to be "running around outside" | 11:52 |
| mokstar | the rich people who can afford to live within the arcologies don't feel like being surrogates for poor people | 11:53 |
| mokstar | they use the artificial wombs too, but only out of convenience rather than necessity | 11:53 |
| kanzure | yes, because rich people are fucking stupid and don't understand the need for large populations | 11:53 |
| mokstar | slo-mo-trainwreck | 11:54 |
| mokstar | not everything has to work out in the end | 11:54 |
| kanzure | imho rich vs poor stories like that are very boring, because you're constrained to biology topics, whereas rich vs poor could have lots of other unrelated stories | 11:54 |
| kanzure | so biological apocalypse seems like a boring scenario to explore that topic in | 11:54 |
| mokstar | maybe it's because I saw Elysium recently | 11:54 |
| mokstar | it'd be an exploration of the health-for-money situation we have in the US right now | 11:55 |
| mokstar | "Oh, you can live, but you'll be indebted for the next thirty years." | 11:55 |
| kanzure | ugh, and you think all the other healthcare in the world is costless? | 11:55 |
| mokstar | no, but I'm not as familiar with those situations because I don't live there | 11:56 |
| kanzure | in many cases it's the same products from the same production lines, which, surprise! accept money for their goods | 11:56 |
| kanzure | (this does not seem extremely problematic to me) | 11:56 |
| kanzure | if you want to ban free trade entirely, that's an interesting viewpoint, but you should state it explicitly | 11:57 |
| mokstar | I personally think that accepting mortality is the cheaper and more efficient option long-term | 11:57 |
| mokstar | but, as a living being, it would be very difficult for me to say, "Oh, my premature infant son will require more resources than he's worth, just let him die" | 11:57 |
| kanzure | you calculate numeric values to humans? | 11:58 |
| kanzure | also, that's a slippery slope that leads to banning abortions and eating | 11:59 |
| mokstar | if those same resources would be spent on expensive medical treatment for my other children... | 11:59 |
| mokstar | I think you're making the mistake of assuming that I'm pointing at some sort of "right" answer | 11:59 |
| kanzure | my mistake is thinking that you're thinking at all | 12:00 |
| mokstar | you're no fun to talk to | 12:00 |
| kanzure | i think i've brought up many good points that you're totally ignoring | 12:00 |
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| kanzure | "blah blah blah, healthcare costs money and this is bad" "well actually, the common argument is that healthcare should not be paid by the patients, not that free trade is evil" | 12:00 |
| kanzure | afaik there's nobody really arguing that trading money for medical goods is inherently bad | 12:01 |
| kanzure | and it sounds like you're just misinterpreting that common argument for your own weird one that you don't seem to be willing to support either | 12:01 |
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| justanotheruser | gradstudentbot: test | 13:08 |
| gradstudentbot | The freezer was too cold and fucked up my sample DNA. | 13:08 |
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| kanzure | http://www.ebay.com/itm/2W-445nm-450nm-blue-Laser-module-with-Focusing-light-matches-pop-balloon-/331153556175?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1a4a42cf | 18:06 |
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| kanzure | "When I am designing a PCB that uses a part that a) is either hard to source b) will be EOL or c) has a capability spectrum I design a pad that is the union of two pad outlines. It isn't always doable, but it makes putting in alternative packages into the same PCB a whole lot easier. One cannot do that for that the entire design, but simple stuff like supporting a 1206 and a 2512 at the same time, or a 14 and 18 pin version of a part." | 20:28 |
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| kanzure | raml's example seems sorta silly, http://raml.org/ they list "artist" only once, under /songs/{songId} but not specifically on a song model | 20:36 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: most photoresist needs like 20mW/sq cm | 23:07 |
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