2014-08-18.log

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jrayhawkpaperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ejlt.201400114/pdf02:35
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8b8745c4907947ba48dcbb4691a37b32.txt02:35
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kanzureeleitl is a prepper :|07:40
eudoxia_i assumed that from the whole "going rural" thing07:40
eudoxia_also stalking him on reddit07:40
archelsgoing rural? wat07:44
archelscollapse? hahah07:46
archelsI've never seen cynicism this concentrated before07:46
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kanzureconst ON_BrepFace &original_face = i >= face_count1 ? brep2->m_F[i = face_count1] : brep1->m_F[i]08:12
kanzureis this equivalent to:08:12
kanzureconst ON_BrepFace &original_face = (i >= (face_count1 ? brep2->m_F[i = face_count1] : brep1->m_F[i]))08:12
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kanzure?08:12
archelsif that's C/C++, then no08:13
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eudoxia_i'm pretty sure it's (i >= face_count1) ? ...08:15
archelsyeah, with minor headfuckery due to assignment in the dereference operator08:15
eudoxia_that's so awful08:16
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kanzureshit i didn't even see "(i >= face_count1) ?" as an option there08:22
kanzureoh right, i am also not sure what to do about the assignment08:24
archelsare you porting this code or just cleaning it up?08:25
kanzureso: if i >= face_count1: (i = face_count1; original_face = brep2->m_F[i];); else original_face = brep1->m_F[i]08:25
kanzureporting :|08:25
archelshmmm08:26
archelsif brep2->m_F is an array of length face_count1, then shouldn't that be i = face_count1 - 1?08:27
heathaugur: http://lucacardelli.name/Papers/Strand%20Algebras%20for%20DNA%20Computing%20(Natural%20Computing).pdf08:28
kanzurearchels: which one should be face_count1 - 1?08:28
kanzurethis is stupid08:28
archelsin the original, brep2->m_F[i = face_count1] might be missing a minus one08:29
archels(this is just conjecture based on assumptions about the data structures)08:30
kanzurebtw the line is here:08:32
kanzurehttps://github.com/kanzure/brlcad/blob/master/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp#L225308:32
augurheath: whats this now08:34
archelsoh, that says something different08:35
archelsminus instead of equals08:36
kanzureoh hey you're right08:37
kanzurethat is much less bad08:38
heathaugur: the guy worked on dsd (https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/dna/), a programming language for dna circuits which is based on toehold-mediated DNA strand displacement (http://www.dna.caltech.edu/Papers/ThreeWayBiophysics2013.pdf)08:45
heathanyway, i just figured it was something you might be interested in08:45
augurheath: ah ok08:45
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kanzurehttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ploversteno/KJ2OcDqboCc09:55
kanzure"I'm wondering if I should maybe make a more extensive coding video than the 26-second "Coding Python with Plover" video that's up right now. Could someone maybe give me a page-long block of code (with lots of commands, variable names, punctuation, brackets, and symbols, since that seems to be what a lot of people get hung up on; I don't know why they think it's harder to write on a steno machine than regular text is, but it's a very ...09:55
kanzure... pervasive myth) that I can write on my steno machine?"09:56
kanzuresure! http://www.ioccc.org/2013/birken/birken.c09:56
kanzurethis is why i am hated09:56
delinquentmekanzure, what happend with the interchangeable microfluidic parts registry10:22
delinquentmeYou didn't hit something which made it not worth while right?10:22
kanzurenope, just didn't make it10:23
kanzureor, i did write a little of it, but then stopped because it was premature optimization10:23
kanzuresvg + yaml would be fine, or something like cadquery + yaml parameters maybe10:24
delinquentmekanzure, why premature optimization?10:24
kanzurewhat the hell did i need it for?10:25
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delinquentmeliquid handling kanzure10:47
kanzurewhat about it?10:59
kanzureyou can do liquid handling without spending 800 hours writing a microfluidics cad library10:59
delinquentmeWas there value in an interchangeable parts library?11:04
delinquentmefucking hell. stupid body wants me to keep eating11:04
kanzuretheoretically yes in the sense that an open source ecosystem could eventually be forced into existence where others contribute improvements and development11:04
delinquentmeim trying ot find via ble applications for this dude doing simulations and I was pondering about this11:05
delinquentmechips of a given size/complexity will eventually need to be verified as usable11:06
delinquentmeFEA/ fluid dynamics could be run on this ... and seems it might have value in the fact that fabbing these molds aren't cheap11:06
kanzureyeah there was someone doing cloud simulation for fea stuff11:07
delinquentmeyou recall ??11:08
kanzureautodesk probably11:09
kanzurehttp://rescale.com/11:09
kanzurethat's the one11:09
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ParahSailinis empty list truthy in ruby or something?12:51
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delinquentmekanzure, was it someone OTHER than Ubercloud?13:14
delinquentme( doing cloud FEA )13:15
kanzurei already told you13:15
delinquentmelooks like it wasn't recoded in my chat history13:16
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kanzure11:07 < kanzure> yeah there was someone doing cloud simulation for fea stuff13:18
kanzure11:08 < delinquentme> you recall ??13:18
kanzure11:09 < kanzure> autodesk probably13:18
kanzure11:09 < kanzure> http://rescale.com/13:18
kanzure11:09 < kanzure> that's the one13:18
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nmz787_i1another OMICS -- Degradomics13:23
nmz787_i1.title http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac901604913:23
yoleauxMaterial Degradomics: On the Smell of Old Books13:23
chris_99heh13:24
chris_99that sounds interesting13:24
nmz787_i1delinquentme: most or at least half of the microfluidics papers i've read have done simulations13:25
nmz787_i1delinquentme: it would be awesome if setting up simulations was easier13:25
nmz787_i1delinquentme: or if there was a nice howto/tutorial13:25
delinquentmenmz787_i1, no shit.  Links to papers?13:25
delinquentmeAnd any ideas on what programs they were running?13:26
kanzureopenfoam is what i used for microfluidics simulations13:26
kanzurealso comsol/ansys13:26
kanzureso.. the usual suspects. not an interesting question.13:26
nmz787_i1delinquentme: comsol mostly, i think i've seen fluent too13:27
delinquentmeyeah comsol pops up alot .  Fluidigm uses it too13:27
nmz787_i1delinquentme: no paper links, just check kanzure's microfluidics dir13:27
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ParahSailingah nginx and uwsgi14:15
ParahSailinwtf why it breaks 1mb post data14:16
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ParahSailinthanks, readv() failed, very useful log14:16
kanzure:\14:17
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kanzure"They haven't yet proven an effective method for inhibiting myostatin in a human... but they've developed a method for detecting it, to prevent people from doing it. Shows what their priorities are." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2391391315:18
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kanzurenmz787_i: don't reformat. inodes might be in tact.15:19
kanzurethere should be a method for remotely determining whether or not some technology exists.15:31
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nmz787_ii was able to recover images and mp3s from the SD card16:20
nmz787_iapparently with the MTP crap though, it's harder to get at the actual partitions16:20
nmz787_iI couldn't figure out how to use drivedroid to display the old-style block device16:21
kanzurewhy do you need drivedroid?16:22
nmz787_ii read somewhere online you could use it to force the internal SD to show up not-as-MTP16:22
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gmaxwellpaperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-02384-2_2417:37
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/efb9dd5dcf72193643e43fae376aa9f6.txt17:38
kanzurepokeball go17:40
kanzurehttp://users.ece.cmu.edu/~yoonguk/papers/kim-isca14.pdf17:43
kanzure"By reading from the same address in DRAM, we show that it is possible to corrupt data in nearby addresses. More specifically, activating the same row in DRAM corrupts data in nearby rows. We demonstrate this phenomenon on Intel and AMD systems using a malicious program that generates many DRAM accesses."17:43
dingo_interesting17:46
dingo_something with the dram refresh cycle i presume17:46
gmaxwelldingo_: yes, and they bypass the cache.17:46
gmaxwellAs I said when I originally ran across the paper: 14:51 <@gmaxwell> On today's expisode of eveything is broken and we're doomed. http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~yoonguk/papers/kim-isca14.pdf17:47
dingo_the zx spectrum only allows a single color per tile, and using a hack while it is displaying the tile, you can modify the colors as it draws, achieving multiple colors17:51
dingo_i wonder how ECC interacts, if it helps or prevents, even with checksums, its possible to balance wrong17:52
dingo_oh man, yeah, this is nuts. their PARA is even more nuts17:53
dingo_when i first learned of woz's hack to refresh DRAM my first thought was how amazing it is that it actually works, and does not corrupt17:54
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dingo_this would be a *very* interesting bug if it could be refined to specificly corrupt a specific region of memory with a specific payload, it would be very hard to do18:05
gmaxwelldingo_: specific payload is not that exiting since you usually only need a single bit flipped to get a severe security vulnerability.18:07
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dingo_seems only some cells are highly vulnerable to18:07
dingo_too... i hate incorrect use of to18:08
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gmaxwellyes, though on some memory it was basically half of all of them.18:08
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nmz787_ihttp://www.nanoparticles.org/pdf/Salager-E300A.pdf19:18
nmz787_igood paper on surfactants19:18
nmz787_ilike all the types, how they differ19:18
nmz787_iwhat the pros and cons are19:18
nmz787_igot some spelling errors, but seems nice otherwise19:19
nmz787_ifrom butter to bubble bath19:23
kanzure'The BGI Cognitive Genomics Lab has obtained DNA samples from over 2000 intellectually gifted individuals [23]. Whole genome sequences at 4x coverage have been obtained for a subset of these, with the remainder delayed until the new Complete Genomics platform (CG was acquired by BGI in 2013) is operative. Project Einstein Sequencing pioneer Jonathan Rothberg (founder of 454 Life Sciences and Ion Torrent) is funding Project Einstein [24], ...19:23
kanzure... which seeks to identify the genetic basis for mathematical genius. DNA samples have been obtained from 400 leading mathematicians and theoretical physicists, with whole genome sequences expected to be obtained by end of summer 2014."19:24
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kanzure19:38 <@gwern> gf being fluid intelligence19:39
kanzure19:38 < kanzure> oh brother19:39
kanzurei don't know what i was expecting19:39
kanzurehe doesn't believe in neuronal gene expression or gene silencing19:49
kanzurean okay page https://www.addgene.org/CRISPR/guide/19:53
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ParahSailinhttps://github.com/libgit2/libgit2/commit/826bc4a81b9c8ce29ff2f98195fb913bada573ca21:51
kanzurefucking idiots21:53
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ParahSailinwell, it looks like i've got the libgit2 bindings up to the current version, now to decide how much to clean up to submit a pull request22:03
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kanzureandytoshi: i found you https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.c/nz-qavKFd_I23:02
kanzure23:08 < Computer_Barf> if you've never had a round bottom flask explode alcohol all over the room while vac distilling, well you've just not lived.23:08
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nmz787hah, i've done that with octanol23:33
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