2014-09-18.log

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delinquentmekanzure, yew le awake?01:45
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archelskanzure: excellent tune02:23
archels(moar)02:23
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archels.head www.scholarpedia.org04:08
yoleaux302, text/html; charset=iso-8859-104:08
archels.title www.scholarpedia.org04:08
yoleauxarchels: Sorry, that command (.title) crashed.04:08
archelsyeah04:08
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archelsaaand we're back04:16
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pi-paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1466880805:10
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnrd122805:10
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pi-paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1617307305:52
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1002%2Fana.2062705:52
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kanzurevietnam banned bitcoin, right?06:44
kanzurearchels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeV0-H0LA4w06:52
kanzure.title06:53
yoleauxRobert R. Hardy - Aesthetics (Loquai Remix)06:53
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archels07:04
kanzurearchels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap2gLkDPAiA&index=9&list=PLgO7JBj821uEPwFiOKzetby0W1lBHMhCD&t=25s07:09
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kanzure"Experimenting coupling a CPU-based rigid body simulation with a GPU-based fluid simulation." https://github.com/haxiomic/GPU-Fluid-Experiments07:15
kanzurethis is poorly implemented but otherwise an interesting bookmarking tool https://github.com/davidlazar/jotmuch07:16
eudoxiaoh cool, that's exactly the same thing i use (YAML bookmarks)07:17
eudoxiabut i have a script to turn them into an HTML homepage + JS open/closing of sublists07:18
kanzureneeds arrow + click installed07:20
kanzureTypeError: __new__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'keep_trailing_newline'07:20
kanzurei almost like the idea of opening up $EDITOR to change details about the new bookmark07:20
kanzuremaybe if there was a way to open at a specific character number so that you don't have to always navigate after the editor opens up07:22
kanzureotherwise you're always going to be typing 5w by default when the editor opens up to get to the tag section07:23
kanzurevim +5go07:23
kanzureer, it's variable of course because of the url param appearing first. hrm.07:32
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* heath has been wanting a synthetic biology podcast for awhile08:12
heathnot a one off "what is synbio" podcast as you see all over the place08:12
heathhttps://soundcloud.com/longnow/synthetic-biology-debate08:16
heathdrew endy jim thomas debate on synbio08:16
heathalso on fora08:16
heathhttp://fora.tv/2008/11/17/Drew_Endy_and_Jim_Thomas_Debate_Synthetic_Biology/Designing_and_Building_Organisms_Simple_As_Writing_Code08:16
kanzure"... there is no source, the bytecode has multiple reentrent abstractions, is unstable and has a very low signal to noise ratio, the runtime is unbootstrappable, the execution is nondeterministic, it tries to randomly integrate and execute code from other computers... multiple reentrant and self-modifying abstractions. absolutely everything has subtle side effects."08:20
kanzurebut other than that, sure, it's exactly like coding..08:20
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heathkanzure: is that the cathal interview?08:50
heathsounds like it08:51
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kanzurenope just hplusroadmap08:52
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ybit.meow09:07
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* ybit approves of taking the kittens out of the lab09:08
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pi-kanzure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Bitcoin_by_country <-- looks like Wikipedia hasn't caught up with the news10:08
kanzure.title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=833602510:12
yoleauxTXT Record XSS | Hacker News10:12
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nmz787_iyou don't even need to click on these titles to enjoy some of them https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/12:20
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jrayhawki would prefer to replace half the web with nntp12:49
jrayhawkfor instance, every blog12:49
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* nmz787_i be the change you wish to see in the internet13:01
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* nmz787_i just bought https://eevblog.myshopify.com/products/ucurrent13:06
nmz787_ithey were out of stock for a while13:06
nmz787_ihttp://www.eevblog.com/projects/ucurrent/13:06
chris_99oh yeah i remember those13:08
chris_99is anyone a vim expert per chance? i'm trying to return a value from lua to a vim function13:10
dingonot that much of an expert :)13:14
dingovim developer, hehe13:14
dingothere are mailing lists for plugin devs i beleive13:14
jrayhawkchris_99: i think the traditional answer from vim experts is something like "if you don't want to choose between a crappy interface (emacs) and a crappy scripting language (vim), use http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil "13:14
chris_99haha13:14
chris_99woo! got it, in the lua side you do: vim.command("return 'blah'")13:15
chris_99dingo, what do you think of neovim13:17
jrayhawkwhat does it offer over dispatch.vim ?13:22
dingoill probably use neovim if they solve the concurrency issue13:23
dingoneither vim or emacs has yet13:23
dingoif emacs solves it i'd use the whatever13:23
dingoevil mode13:23
dingoproblem is its emacs-lisp13:24
jrayhawkWhat's the concurrency issue?13:24
dingorunning things like static analysis, or llvm stuff, without blocking13:24
dingothe one i use now writes to an external file that vim periodically polls13:24
dingoand sometimes gets wrong and fucks all up13:24
jrayhawkI've seen that done with emacs, but I don't know the details.13:24
dingojust watched a presentation on a 30yr emacs veteran who says emacs hasn't solved it either13:25
jrayhawkMost notably for compile-testing in the background and syntax highlighting compiler errors13:25
jrayhawkwhich was pretty slick13:25
dingohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VADudzQGvU813:25
kanzurewere either of emacs or vi well designed from the beginning?13:26
jrayhawkNo, both went through major rewrites.13:26
jrayhawkFrom scratch rewrites, even13:26
dingoi'll use anything somebody impresses me with13:26
dingomakes me go "i wish i could do that in vim"13:26
dingoi just dont see it, its usually the other way around13:27
kanzurei could see the value of a vim or emacs keybinding compatible thing that maybe doesn't have to deal with the burden of legacy cruft13:28
dingohttp://youtu.be/VADudzQGvU8?t=34m39s <- timeindexed at what im speaking about, jrayhawk13:28
kanzurehah pmetzger used to be in here13:29
jrayhawksomething's throttling me down to 200kiB/s on that video, so I don't think I'm going to be seeing minute 34 anytime soon.13:29
kanzure"Perry Metzger has been using Emacs as his text editor since early September, 1983 -- nearly 31 years."13:30
kanzurewhat a squatter13:30
dingo(the audience in this particular talk pisses me off... they're so loud an obnoxious, interrupt him all the time... its in new york so i attribute it to that"13:30
dingoH)13:30
dingoddd13:30
kanzurehaha he had to tell someone that a subprocess is different than running it in elisp13:32
kanzurequite the soldier13:32
dingoyeah.. i feel a vim users group wouldn't be so damn obnoxious lol13:32
kanzurei told him to fuck off once13:33
kanzurehe still holds it agains tme heh13:34
kanzure*against me13:34
dingohehe13:36
kanzurealso i think he's top 50 suspects for satoshi nakamoto13:36
dingoi'd place him #4513:38
kanzurewin 513:46
kanzureoops13:46
nmz787_ihttp://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20140916-mystery-fairy-circles-defy-explanation13:48
kanzuredingo: oh it was an emacs user group. the heckling makes slightly more sense now.13:52
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jrayhawkcorrection: i am crazy, it was not async14:13
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kanzureybit says http://www.biotechniques.com/news/Cellular-Barcoding-Goes-Somewhere-Over-the-Brainbow/biotechniques-353864.html14:14
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nmz787_ipaperbot: http://dox.doi.org/10.1093/nar/gku60415:03
nmz787_i.title15:03
yoleauxnmz787_i: Sorry, that command (.title) crashed.15:03
paperbotConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='dox.doi.org', port=80): Max retries exceeded with url: /10.1093/nar/gku604 (Caused by <class 'socket.gaierror'>: [Errno -2] Name or service not known) (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 375, in send)15:03
nmz787_ipaperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1093/nar/gku60415:04
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e4e00064138b7435297290b7e87b10bb.txt15:04
nmz787_ihttp://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.100141115:12
nmz787_i"Second, barcodes from synaptically connected neurons must be associated. One way to associate a pre- and postsynaptic barcode is by means of a transsynaptic virus such as rabies [19] or pseudorabies (PRV) [20]. These viruses have evolved exquisite mechanisms for moving genetic material across synapses and have been used extensively for tracing neural circuits in rodents. To share barcodes across synapses, the virus must be engineered15:12
nmz787_i to carry the barcode within its own genetic sequence. After transsynaptic spread of the virus each postsynaptic neuron can be thought of as a “bag of barcodes,” consisting of copies of its own “host” barcodes, along with “invader” barcodes from presynaptically coupled neurons"15:13
nmz787_ito carry the barcode within its own genetic sequence. After transsynaptic spread of the virus each postsynaptic neuron can be thought of as a “bag of barcodes,” consisting of copies of its own “host” barcodes, along with “invader” barcodes from presynaptically coupled neurons"15:14
nmz787_ihmm, those last few quoted words appear garbled in the logs15:14
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kanzureneo4j has 29k commits why? https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j15:31
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nmz787_iok let's try this again15:33
nmz787_i"Second, barcodes from synaptically connected neurons must be associated. One way to associate a pre- and postsynaptic barcode is by means of a transsynaptic virus such as rabies [19] or pseudorabies (PRV) [20]. These viruses have evolved exquisite mechanisms for moving genetic material across synapses and have been used extensively for tracing neural circuits in rodents. To share barcodes across synapses, the virus must be15:33
nmz787_iengineered to carry the barcode within its own genetic sequence. After transsynaptic spread of the virus each postsynaptic neuron can be thought of as a "bag of barcodes,"" consisting of copies of its own "host" barcodes, along with "invader" barcodes from presynaptically coupled neurons (Figure 2B)."15:33
nmz787_ikanzure: no idea re commits... I looked at neo4j briefly last weekend but not since... since it didn't seem to have anything related to graph crossings, which was why I took interest in it15:35
nmz787_iidk if it would be required of me to use a database rather than just classes that point to each other, since I think I was going to do crossing detection using line segment intersection geometry15:36
kanzurenetworkx probably has a thing for that15:42
kanzurematt would know too15:42
chris_99kanzure, heh someone else pointed that out to me today too heh, about neo4j and the commit count15:45
kanzureyou might know one of my other aliases15:46
chris_99haha15:46
nmz787_iidk, lot's of people screwing up commits and reverting? https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j/graphs/code-frequency16:06
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Windy101paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1567-1364.12206/pdf16:29
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f327266474e193db0183eeb119b0372c.txt16:29
Windy101paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1567-1364.12206/abstract16:30
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3e3feb19fd241f346b750fdf8220b0.txt16:31
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kanzurehaha that was someone from amyris16:34
kanzurethis is an amusing novelty from a mining pool, a bootable linux usb stick live distro thingy that points immediately to their mining pool https://magicpool.org/magicos.php16:35
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kanzurewow such frequency https://campbx.com/api.php "Please ensure that there is at least 500 millisecond latency between two calls"17:25
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kanzuredbolser: i have been playing with this https://github.com/davidlazar/jotmuch (for bookmarks)17:37
kanzuredbolser: perhaps that will fix the boredness?17:37
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dbolserkanzure: I'm only bored because I should be doing something else17:40
* dbolser tries to focus17:40
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Lemminkainenpaperbot http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v9/n9/full/nnano.2014.156.html20:42
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnnano.2014.15620:42
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kanzuretoo many links21:53
kanzureeven for me21:53
kanzurealthough it is nice to have a sane bookmarking system again21:54
kanzurenow i don't have to remember urls as much21:54
kanzurekanzure@abacus:~/local/jotmuch/jotmuch$ ./jot count21:55
kanzure46421:55
caternwow22:18
caterneveryone is playing with jotmuch22:19
caternkanzure: unless you saw people mentioning it in lesswrong?22:19
kanzureno22:24
kanzureit was in a github email22:24
kanzurenot surprising that others know about it22:25
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