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| jrayhawk | 'OS X doesn't use Bash for configuring DHCP, so it's not vulnerable. All of that is done in the kernel on Macs.' worst bsd | 01:56 |
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| archels | hehe, not a moment too soon installing TexMed on my own server. the one at bioinformatics.org is returning an internal server error | 04:18 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://jop.sagepub.com/content/26/9/1265.abstract | 05:50 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1177%2F0269881111431747 | 05:50 |
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| kanzure | what does git call a set of commits that post-receive receives | 07:47 |
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| kanzure | http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/cookietest | 09:18 |
| kanzure | http://vivo.aaas.org/vivisimo/cgi-bin/query-meta | 09:18 |
| kanzure | http://aaas.confex.com/aaas/2014/poster/cfp.cgi | 09:18 |
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| kanzure | 10:00 < sipa> some programmers, when cobfronted with a problem think "i know, i'll use floating point!"; now they have 1.9999997 problems | 10:03 |
| chris_99 | lol | 10:04 |
| dingo | hehe | 10:05 |
| kanzure | https://soundcloud.com/kieranj/dr-avalance-cuatro-contra-tres | 10:06 |
| kanzure | https://soundcloud.com/stivenrivic/ilya-gerus-vague-hallucinationsmichael-levan-and-stiven-rivic-remix | 10:06 |
| kanzure | https://soundcloud.com/stivenrivic/michael-levan-and-stiven-rivic-breaking-point-original-mix | 10:07 |
| kanzure | 10:12 <+dpk> "3rd Shellshock Vulnerability Found" | 10:17 |
| kanzure | 10:12 <+kanzure> setuid false alarm | 10:17 |
| kanzure | 10:13 <+nsh-> well, not really | 10:17 |
| kanzure | 10:13 <+nsh-> any setuid/setgid program that uses system or exec in an OS that has bash as default shell (such as RHEL/CentOS) will be vulnerable | 10:17 |
| nsh- | http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/747 | 10:18 |
| dingo | not many setuid's use system or exec | 10:26 |
| dingo | folk know better | 10:26 |
| dingo | setuids have become quite rare and scrutinized | 10:26 |
| dingo | like why would ping(1) call system() or exec() | 10:27 |
| dingo | anyway its fun, even my telnet bbs is vulnerable | 10:28 |
| dingo | or could have been, i knew better when i added external door support | 10:28 |
| dingo | its just a fun thought exercise | 10:28 |
| dingo | i use execpe with explicit environment variables that are sanitized | 10:29 |
| dingo | and even though i use the NEW_ENVIRON telnet negotiation to retrieve the user's environment values, its not passed on, they're controlled | 10:29 |
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| dingo | i think my company's software is vulnerable though haha | 10:30 |
| dingo | i fought religiously hard against the convenient subprocess.whatever("command as a bash string | maybe a convenient pipe", shell=True) | 10:31 |
| dingo | i argued it for a week and won all battles except one, where | was used | 10:31 |
| dingo | so i think you could set a password with the () blah bullshit | 10:31 |
| dingo | and since the password is sent via environment variable through a piece of shit called sshpass, i think theres an attack vector there | 10:32 |
| dingo | you just have to make sure the password is legitimately correct, so that it can get so far | 10:32 |
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| dingo | anyway here's your cheat sheet hehe, http://pentestmonkey.net/cheat-sheet/shells/reverse-shell-cheat-sheet | 10:45 |
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| kanzure | oh thank you i was just looking for that /me takes | 11:14 |
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| facefaceface | http://www.pnas.org/content/111/38/13811 | 12:58 |
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| facefaceface | anyone looked at futures on OKCoin? | 13:01 |
| archels | paperbot: http://www.pnas.org/content/111/38/13811.full.pdf+html?with-ds=yes | 13:02 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1be9f5a4112f6b4b020190e919531891.txt | 13:06 |
| facefaceface | night | 13:07 |
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| kanzure | hm | 14:38 |
| kanzure | Unable to connect server nucleus.kafuka.org port 6667 [Connection refused] | 14:38 |
| dingo | who is peer and why does he keep reseting me | 14:39 |
| kanzure | i had a tmux problem of some sort | 14:39 |
| kanzure | tmux --help was even hanging | 14:40 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/tmux-help-strace.log.txt | 14:40 |
| dingo | it was trying to access your /tmp/tmux-1000/default | 14:41 |
| dingo | and its polling it | 14:41 |
| dingo | (even for --help; which is odd) | 14:41 |
| dingo | thats the sort of shit gnu-screen used to give me that i quit using it for, the master process would lock up and i couldn't re-attach | 14:42 |
| kanzure | i wonder if they actually stress test tmux | 14:42 |
| kanzure | other than "a hundred thousand angry nerds hanging out on irc forever" | 14:42 |
| kanzure | "On September 24, 2014, Alcor’s membership reached 1000 for the first time. This is the first time any cryonics organization has had this many members with full financial and contractual arrangements for cryopreservation. (Counting all classes of members, total membership is 1255.)" | 14:44 |
| kanzure | dingo: https://www.npmjs.org/package/angry-caching-proxy | 15:56 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/epeli/angry-caching-proxy | 15:58 |
| kanzure | although i'm not sure which specific features this offers over a generic http cache | 15:58 |
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| kanzure | ah, it filters relevant requests https://github.com/epeli/angry-caching-proxy/blob/master/buildin-triggers.js | 16:02 |
| kanzure | also it doesn't actually cache all the pages that pip requests anyway. hrm. | 16:04 |
| kanzure | "Paylogic uses pip-accel to quickly and reliably initialize virtual environments on its farm of continuous integration slaves which are constantly running unit tests (this was one of the original use cases for which pip-accel was developed). We also use it on our build servers." | 16:05 |
| dingo | yeah... you could just use squid for that matter | 16:07 |
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| dingo | https://github.com/epeli/angry-caching-proxy/blob/master/buildin-triggers.js | 16:09 |
| dingo | this is pretty much all it is | 16:09 |
| dingo | just translate such rules to your preferred http proxy and configure for "keep forever" and you're done | 16:09 |
| kanzure | agreed, meh | 16:11 |
| dingo | https://gist.github.com/jquast/a4e009d28428075ae073 | 16:11 |
| dingo | you could modify this to return None instead of raise Exception | 16:11 |
| dingo | pip_bin = which('pip-accel') or which('pip') | 16:11 |
| dingo | so my company's setup.py's are complicated as hell now | 16:12 |
| kanzure | haha yes | 16:13 |
| dingo | vova if you remember him, introduced a simple Makefile frontend | 16:13 |
| kanzure | those setup.py's have a mind of their own | 16:13 |
| dingo | "make develop; make install; make docs" | 16:13 |
| kanzure | hahah a second layer yes | 16:13 |
| dingo | but those aren't OS portable, we have windows build systems also | 16:13 |
| dingo | i think fabfiles may be the correct, portable, solution | 16:13 |
| dingo | i'd like to see setup.py's be their natural layer | 16:13 |
| dingo | just 50 line metadata descriptions | 16:14 |
| dingo | and a fabfile to do all the heavy lifting | 16:14 |
| kanzure | fabfiles are just fabric + sshing into other boxes? | 16:14 |
| kanzure | why would that solve your problems | 16:14 |
| dingo | it doesn't even have to do that, though | 16:14 |
| dingo | just treat it like Makefile in python language | 16:14 |
| kanzure | oh you mean for the .. ah. | 16:14 |
| kanzure | more like rakefile | 16:14 |
| dingo | https://github.com/jquast/blessed/blob/master/fabfile.py | 16:14 |
| dingo | (I didn't write this, just inherited it) | 16:14 |
| dingo | exactly like rakefile | 16:14 |
| kanzure | http://docs.pyinvoke.org/en/latest/concepts/execution.html#base-case | 16:15 |
| dingo | yeah theres another one like that by the warzekueguewhatevetr author | 16:15 |
| dingo | http://click.pocoo.org/3/ | 16:16 |
| dingo | flask/jinja guy | 16:16 |
| kanzure | i wasn't going to suggest click but okay | 16:16 |
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| dingo | me neither, hehe | 16:16 |
| dingo | this @task seems more like Makefile with chained dependencies | 16:16 |
| nmz787 | i don't like how pip doesn't actually install files where you tell it to | 16:16 |
| kanzure | so many wheels being reinvented | 16:16 |
| nmz787 | it creates a lib/site-packages and puts things in there | 16:17 |
| dingo | argparse and __name__ == "__main__" is crappy looking but, whatever, really | 16:17 |
| nmz787 | like, why the hell would you have an override option that is half-overriding | 16:17 |
| dingo | there are more interesting problems to solve than style and appearance | 16:17 |
| dingo | people get a taste of clean and brief code using decorators and they just won't quit | 16:18 |
| nmz787 | i also seem to hate cmake and make, in the sense that they only frustrate me | 16:18 |
| dingo | yes they have both frustrated me a great deal | 16:18 |
| dingo | i remember spending about 4 hours trying to figure out how to get an X11 include directory on a *BSD, frustrated me to no end | 16:19 |
| kanzure | yes but did you read the docs | 16:19 |
| dingo | submitted the patch and the author is like "I don't think thats the right place to put it... but I also don't know where it belongs.." lol | 16:19 |
| dingo | 4 hours, i guess you're right, i could probably only read half the documentation in that time | 16:20 |
| nmz787 | everything needs hyperlinking | 16:20 |
| kanzure | expecting to know cmake or make without reading the documentation seems silly to me | 16:20 |
| nmz787 | for macros and buried shit | 16:20 |
| nmz787 | well why shouldn't it be self-documenting? | 16:20 |
| nmz787 | or easy to use? | 16:20 |
| dingo | yeah... i learned python by just modifying somebody else's code, it was like... obvious, php the same | 16:21 |
| kanzure | it is not obvious in php how to write good code at all | 16:21 |
| dingo | no but its obvious how to write an if and an echo or whatever | 16:21 |
| dingo | theres a difference between authoring a framework library and just patching or debugging something that isn't working | 16:22 |
| dingo | sucks to have to read a book's worth of material for a one-line change | 16:22 |
| kanzure | build systems almost can't be one liners | 16:22 |
| dingo | the problem that's not allowing it to build often is :) | 16:23 |
| kanzure | http://ofb.net/~wnoise/build-system/ | 16:23 |
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| nmz787 | I'll probably never actually get around to this though. | 16:52 |
| nmz787 | "" | 16:52 |
| nmz787 | (from that last link) | 16:52 |
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| kanzure | import bitcoin.rpc | 18:00 |
| kanzure | proxy = bitcoin.rpc.Proxy(btc_conf_file="/etc/bitcoin/regtest.conf") | 18:00 |
| kanzure | oh i see, it's probably some ipython trickery | 18:01 |
| kanzure | typing just "proxy" gets "JSONRPCException: msg: u'Method not found' code: -32601" even though type(proxy) is bitcoin.rpc.Proxy sigh | 18:01 |
| kanzure | but it's not the repr or the str | 18:02 |
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| kanzure | not the worst bitcoin transaction explanation i've seen http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000001802/ch05.html | 20:01 |
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| kanzure | justanotheruser: pm? | 22:02 |
| justanotheruser | kanzure: sure | 22:02 |
| justanotheruser | oh | 22:02 |
| justanotheruser | already happened | 22:02 |
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