2014-10-01.log

--- Log opened Wed Oct 01 00:00:56 2014
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ebowdenIs libgen still down.00:50
juri_mmm?00:56
ebowdenIs libgen still down?00:57
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ebowdenpaperbot: http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v15/n9/full/nn.3189.html05:56
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnn.318905:56
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kanzurehmph06:42
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ybit.title http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/990804308:55
yoleaux[quant-ph/9908043] Ultimate physical limits to computation08:55
ybitlinked from .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXe3HUG2l408:55
ybit.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXe3HUG2l408:55
yoleaux"The Mess We're In" by Joe Armstrong - YouTube08:55
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jrayhawkwho the fuck cares about boot times11:19
jrayhawkthat is like the first thing to trade off against because it only happens once a month11:19
jrayhawkoh, he's a physicist11:20
jrayhawkexplains so much about erlang11:20
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jrayhawkalso sixty second boot times were a fantasy back then11:36
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dingoi don't think he's talking about boot times so much as he's talking about layers12:15
kanzure_layers, jerry, layers12:17
dingothe amount of crap i've had to accumulate for any single language is getting excessive12:17
kanzure_hm?12:17
dingotools, package management, analysis, whatever12:18
eudoxialanguage-specific package managers are great i don't see how people get so angry at the idea12:19
dingohis example was about some grunt shit he didn't even know existed until it didn't work12:19
kanzure_most language-specific package managers absolutely suck12:19
dingoi think what is most interesting his talk is about the state of any given machine12:19
dingothe real problem stems from divirged states, the "works for me, but not you" issue12:19
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dingodid you know ./setup.py install of a python package with a dependency>=1,<2 requirement, if fulfilled by 1.1, but version 1.5 is available, will not upgrade to 1.5?12:20
dingoyet if you do 'pip install --upgrade' of the target package, it will upgrade its sub-dependencies12:21
dingothis is the worthless crap i accumulate and have to retain12:21
kanzure_wait, what does your first part have to do with upgrading subdependencies?12:22
dingoor how about --find-links file://url/ must be an absolute system path, and on windows, use posix path separators12:22
dingo--find-links file://C:/local/packages/12:22
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kanzure_dvorkbjel: hi12:45
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nmz787_ifooplot has been down, so I started to make a backup (still need to add the user inputs, didn't realize their sample didn't include them) http://nmz787.github.io/fooplot.html14:43
kanzure_--Alyssa Henning, current AlumniGEM Committee chair14:43
kanzure_--Esin Demir, incoming AlumniGEM Committee co-chair14:43
kanzure_--Sung won Lim, incoming AlumniGEM Committee co-chair14:43
kanzure_alumnigem.... i am going to stab someone.14:43
kanzure_[3~ incoming lawsuit from fluidigm or illumina...14:45
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Lemminkainenpaperbot http://www.sciencemag.org/content/322/5903/949.short14:58
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.116427014:58
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kanzure_"One of the greatest real achievements of the anti Barney movement was to coopt jihad.net a url that they maintain to this day, keeping it out of the hands of those who might do true harm with a site with that address."15:25
kanzure_apparently this is what yudkowsky was up to before transhumanism, and before siai15:25
kanzure_http://jihad.net/15:25
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kanzure_hi cpopell15:27
cpopellhi15:27
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Lemminkainenanti-Barney?15:45
kanzureyes15:46
Lemminkainenah, thank you for that15:46
LemminkainenI've been negotiating with a Barney-like party and such jokes are a relief15:46
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kanzurewith a party?15:47
Lemminkainen"group of people"15:52
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nmz787_iwhy are you guys talking about a children's TV show personality?16:05
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kanzure15:25 < kanzure_> apparently this is what yudkowsky was up to before transhumanism, and before siai16:05
kanzurethat is why16:05
nmz787_iis he the writer of the show?16:06
nmz787_idoes this have anything to do with a purple dinosaur?16:06
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kanzurei don't know, i guess he was the person who setup jihad.net originally16:10
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kanzurehttp://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/APIReference/ApiReference-query-DescribeInstanceStatus.html16:16
kanzurehttp://bap.ece.cmu.edu/ "AP, the Binary Analysis Platform. BAP makes it easy to analyze binary code by first lifting assembly instructions into a simple language called BIL (the BAP Intermediate Language). BIL explicitly represents the side effects of assembly instructions, such as flag computations. All your analysis needs to do is analyze the lifted BIL code to understand what the binary will do."16:16
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kanzure"BAP can also convert BIL into LLVM byte code."16:17
kanzure"Phoenix, a decompiler built with BAP."16:18
kanzureoh brother, if i see one more thing named phoenix i'm gonna .. well i'm not sure what.16:18
nmz787_ihuh, never heard of the site16:19
kanzurereturn-oriented programming compiler thingy https://github.com/pakt/ropc "- byte sequences (possible gadget candidates) ending in RET are dynamically classified (like in Q),16:20
kanzure" semantics of found candidates are verified with a SAT solver (like in Q),"16:20
kanzurewell anyway, that's prettycool16:20
kanzurei was doing something like that manually in pokecrystal16:21
kanzurefor code injection16:21
kanzure"Q: Exploit hardening made easy" http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~ejschwar/papers/usenix11.pdf16:25
kanzureoh wait, i've read this already.16:26
ybitkanzure: https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix16:34
ybityw16:34
kanzurejstor's backend was called phoenix16:34
kanzureand so was a previous project i was working on16:35
dingo:) confirmed16:36
dingotheir current frontend is literatum (http://www.atypon.com/solutions/overview.php), and their next frontend is code-name 'sequoia', 4-years in progress, due to release early next year16:37
kanzurenot quite as bad16:37
dingoi just met with a recently-former jstor employee last night16:38
kanzuresame old same old?16:38
dingothey've divided their staff, literatum vs. sequoia, with intent to layoff all literatum in ~6mo16:39
kanzurethat's silly16:39
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delinquentmeWhattt do I want to eat right nao16:53
delinquentmetoday is eat day.  maybe icecrea16:53
delinquentmemaybe burger idk16:53
delinquentmeAny ideas if openSCAD files can be used as input for photolithography?16:54
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kanzurethat's not a good idea16:55
kanzurejust use svg16:55
kanzurecadquery, even16:56
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kanzureoh right... wei dai emails to satoshi nakamoto http://www.gwern.net/docs/2008-nakamoto16:57
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ebowdenpaperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1474949917:35
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kanzurehttps://github.com/unsystem/paypub "Distribute an encrypted file to the world. Reveal some (provably fair) random section of the contents to prove the legitimacy of its contents. People bid on the remaining parts. Leaker redeeming funds automatically releases the decryption key allowing people to unlock the remaining parts of the file. NO CENTRAL OPERATOR. NO IDENTITY NEEDED. NO INTERACTION WITH LEAKER REQUIRED."18:34
kanzure"Spending money from those addresses, reveals the public key which is used to decrypt other chunks."18:35
ebowdenpaperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1474949918:41
ebowdenpaperbot: http://iospress.metapress.com/content/a727730627q72g57/?genre=article&issn=1387-2877&volume=31&issue=4&spage=76518:41
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1bf67a83b0c6d1f84bbf7a1da8548302.txt18:47
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kanzurehttp://blog.givewell.org/2014/09/11/challenges-of-transparency/19:42
kanzure"We don’t think it necessarily makes sense for all philanthropic organizations to put as much effort into transparency as we do. Rather, we see transparency as one of the core areas in which we are trying to experiment, innovate, and challenge the status quo."19:42
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ebowdenhttp://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jcmm.12119/pdf21:10
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