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| superkuh | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576514003397 | 02:08 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20ICAN%3A%20A%20novel%20laser%20architecture%20for%20space%20debris%20removal%0A%20.pdf | 02:09 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.cell.com/chemistry-biology/abstract/S1074-5521%2810%2900153-5 | 04:40 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fbc029017f4b75144e529c51dac75fee.txt | 04:41 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23000247 | 05:30 |
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| kanzure | hmph | 06:27 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22740037?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f1000m,isrctn | 06:31 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1002%2Fjcb.24238 | 06:31 |
| ebowden | \:D/ | 06:32 |
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| JayDugger | Morning. | 07:15 |
| kanzure | hmm. | 07:19 |
| kanzure | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0kn4fQaMRQ | 07:24 |
| yoleaux | Arturo Mercado - Warm Lights (Alfonso Muchacho Remix) - YouTube | 07:24 |
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| heath | didn't realize these programs existed: https://aws.amazon.com/activate/ https://cloud.google.com/developers/startups/ | 09:20 |
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| drethelin | how bad is diet soda for losin weight? | 09:23 |
| kanzure | janet yellen bad | 09:28 |
| heath | drethelin: there's contraversy with aspartame and memory loss, feel free to research the topic and get back to this channel | 09:30 |
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| kanzure | controversy | 09:33 |
| chris_99 | most importantly diet soda tastes terrible | 09:34 |
| chris_99 | (to me) | 09:34 |
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| kanzure | dingo: aaaaaa app config :\ | 10:14 |
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| kanzure | dingo: wow flask recommends a terrible thing http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/0.10/config/#development-production | 11:01 |
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| kanzure | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8b3963VRW4&t=40s | 11:11 |
| kanzure | .title | 11:11 |
| yoleaux | Falling Down - Whats wrong to the street? - YouTube | 11:11 |
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| heath | http://martinfowler.com/bliki/FeatureBranch.html :: "Once a team is afraid to refactor to keep their code healthy they are on downward spiral with no pretty end." | 12:24 |
| heath | a couple of years ago, i witnessed this on a project for att | 12:25 |
| heath | exactly due to this reason | 12:25 |
| kanzure | that's a bad idea, you should just never let code get shitty in the first place | 12:27 |
| kanzure | never write shit | 12:27 |
| heath | kanzure: what's a bad idea? working off master? | 12:35 |
| kanzure | "Once a team is afraid to refactor" | 12:36 |
| kanzure | solution: don't do things that will need to be refactored later | 12:37 |
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| kanzure | git fsck saved the day | 12:58 |
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| delinquentme | nmz787_, you around? | 14:07 |
| delinquentme | nmz787_i, tew | 14:07 |
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| nmz787_i | delinquentme: hey | 14:33 |
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| jackybgood | Paperbot please find http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9783527628155.nanotech016/abstract | 15:03 |
| jackybgood | DOI: 10.1002/9783527628155.nanotech016 | 15:05 |
| kanzure | didn't you know how to use paperbot yesterday | 15:07 |
| kanzure | what has changed in the last 15 hours? | 15:07 |
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| jackybgood | I didn't know how to use it, I guessed. | 15:13 |
| kanzure | so you're guessing differently today? | 15:14 |
| jackybgood | paperbot http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9783527628155.nanotech016/abstract | 15:14 |
| jackybgood | Sometimes I do, apparently | 15:15 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/783b020157a961d2e5e1598f7f319970.txt | 15:15 |
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| jackybgood | Not quite | 15:16 |
| kanzure | paperbot is not always able to grab a file | 15:16 |
| jackybgood | Should I try the doi? | 15:17 |
| jackybgood | ~help | 15:21 |
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| kanzure | no | 15:24 |
| kanzure | paperbot simply can't get it | 15:24 |
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| jackybgood | Ok I'll keep looking elsewhere, thanks | 15:24 |
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| nmz787_i | kanzure: i thought I'd added some stuff to a wiki for portlab | 16:45 |
| nmz787_i | now I can't find that wiki page | 16:46 |
| nmz787_i | I had to find this via google, http://diyhpl.us/portlab/ | 16:47 |
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| nmz787_i | but the links are all messed up, i wante to see the project secitons | 16:47 |
| nmz787_i | section | 16:47 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk_: any idea what might have caused that? | 16:48 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk_: also what do you think about this https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/self-replicating_machines.mdwn?id=18eef56f1ac9d3c2d1ce910379c061ae89a66426 | 16:50 |
| nmz787_i | hmm, maybe i never committed those... grr, maybe that was on the portlab website which exsisted briefly | 16:50 |
| nmz787_i | :/ | 16:50 |
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| kanzure | nevermind, looks like fenn was around at that time | 16:51 |
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| nmz787_i | :( did you kanzure ever copy this ? http://portlabpdx.org/wiki/index.php?title=Projects | 16:54 |
| nmz787_i | i added content on 6/6/13 | 16:54 |
| kanzure | nope don't think so | 16:55 |
| nmz787_i | :( archive.org got close but didn't copy http://portlabpdx.org/wiki/index.php?title=DNA_Sequencing | 16:56 |
| nmz787_i | this exists but not that https://web.archive.org/web/20131006092642/http://portlabpdx.org/wiki/index.php?title=Projects | 16:56 |
| kanzure | "(3) Product presales in which the cryptotoken serves as market pricing mechanism for products that have marginal cost of distribution. For software in the past you had to set a somewhat arbitrary initial price; now you can let the market set the price for a particular good at some stage in its distribution, including prior to its release.(we will see some of these emerging at the decentralized demo day on the 5th of November)" | 17:00 |
| kanzure | nmz787_i: got hacked? | 17:01 |
| kanzure | analysis of price data from uber/lyft/etc http://blog.whatsthefare.com/2014/10/it-pays-to-compare.html | 17:03 |
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| nmz787_i | kanzure: nah no one paid the bill | 17:29 |
| kanzure | ask them if paying the bill will recover the data on their end | 17:31 |
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| nmz787_i | kanzure: idk when the account expired, probably earlier this year or something | 18:03 |
| nmz787_i | it's been a while, and it wasn't my server | 18:03 |
| nmz787_i | i think i pulled the info from my memory, at least in general | 18:03 |
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| kanzure | .title http://wyss.harvard.edu/viewpressrelease/170/dna-nanofoundries-cast-customshaped-metal-nanoparticles | 18:21 |
| yoleaux | DNA nano-foundries cast custom-shaped metal nanoparticles : Wyss Institute at Harvard | 18:21 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2014/10/08/science.1258361.abstract | 18:23 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/386069d429ba62b59045c2bb4dcb9b79.txt | 18:23 |
| kanzure | "We report a general strategy for designing and synthesizing inorganic nanostructures with arbitrarily prescribed three-dimensional shapes. Computationally designed DNA strands self-assemble into a stiff “nano-mold” that contains a user-specified three-dimensional cavity and encloses a nucleating gold “seed”. Under mild conditions, this seed grows into a larger cast structure that fills and thus replicates the cavity. We synthesized a ... | 18:24 |
| kanzure | ... variety of nanoparticles with three nanometer resolution: three distinct silver cuboids with three independently tunable dimensions, silver and gold nanoparticles with diverse cross sections, and composite structures with homo-/heterogeneous components. The designer equilateral silver triangular and spherical nanoparticles exhibited plasmonic properties consistent with electromagnetism-based simulations. Our framework is generalizable to ... | 18:24 |
| kanzure | ... more complex geometries and diverse inorganic materials, offering a range of applications in biosensing, photonics, and nanoelectronics." | 18:25 |
| kanzure | 3 nm is pretty big i guess | 18:25 |
| kanzure | too bad | 18:26 |
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| nmz787_i | 3nm is pretty decent for structural stuff though | 18:38 |
| nmz787_i | you could make Raman-enhanced probe tips, probably AFM tips | 18:39 |
| nmz787_i | probably nano syringe tips | 18:41 |
| nmz787_i | lol, the supplement has more pics http://www.sciencemag.org/content/suppl/2014/10/08/science.1258361.DC1/Sun.SM.pdf | 18:41 |
| nmz787_i | ~120 pgs of supplement | 18:42 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/suppl/2014/10/08/science.1258361.DC1/Sun.SM.pdf | 18:42 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/eb30b0ee488e6fbebfca679dff7147a0.pdf | 18:44 |
| kanzure | .botsnack | 18:45 |
| yoleaux | :D | 18:45 |
| nmz787_i | .botslap | 18:47 |
| nmz787_i | .bothack | 18:47 |
| nmz787_i | .boteasteregg | 18:48 |
| nmz787_i | .bothug | 18:48 |
| nmz787_i | oh, half of the supplement is DNA sequence | 18:48 |
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| nmz787_i | kanzure: i don't understand why you linked to that flask page and why you thought it was bad | 19:05 |
| kanzure | hardcoding config in python is morally evil | 19:05 |
| kanzure | configuration should be loaded from environment variables or a config file (really a dictionary) | 19:06 |
| kanzure | (and really the application should have no understanding of whether it came from a config file, environment variables, or command line arguments- really, no application should care about that shit) | 19:07 |
| kanzure | a good heuristic is "would i be willing to murder a baby to be able to hardcode this config option in this file?" | 19:08 |
| kanzure | if the answer is yes then go for it | 19:08 |
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| kanzure | also, there are additional problems with flask's suggestion, like putting all of your config classes in the same file (which makes it hard to separately override different configuration defaults unless you are modifying source code) | 19:10 |
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| streety | how is a config file different to a python file? | 19:11 |
| nmz787_i | exactly my thoughts | 19:11 |
| kanzure | doesn't execute code | 19:11 |
| streety | is it just the lack of granular control you object to or am I missing something? | 19:12 |
| kanzure | i object to the lack of separation of concerns | 19:12 |
| streety | what difference does it make whether it executes code? | 19:12 |
| nmz787_i | lots of files suck though for a small app | 19:12 |
| nmz787_i | which is what flask seems to target | 19:12 |
| nmz787_i | streety: well if it was some user-provided file, it could be bad if your app imports that just for config settings | 19:13 |
| nmz787_i | it could have an rm -rf in there | 19:13 |
| streety | is that a realistic use case though? | 19:13 |
| kanzure | you don't want indeterministic config | 19:14 |
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| nmz787_i | it's a realistic case for security holes | 19:14 |
| kanzure | your configuration should not be fucking turing complete, argh | 19:14 |
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| kanzure | principle 3 yo http://12factor.net/ | 19:15 |
| kanzure | http://12factor.net/config | 19:15 |
| kanzure | this is a little disappointing actually. it has some okay arguments but nothing i couldn't've mustered on my own. | 19:17 |
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| kanzure | what a ripoff. | 19:17 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19576267 | 19:25 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.brainresbull.2009.06.016 | 19:25 |
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| kanzure | genehacker: yeah i'm not sure that actual single atom precision is necessary | 19:34 |
| kanzure | i think i would be pretty happy with ~1000 atom precision? | 19:35 |
| nmz787_i | for what? | 19:35 |
| kanzure | for... stuff. | 19:35 |
| kanzure | you know. | 19:35 |
| nmz787_i | .... | 19:35 |
| nmz787_i | i can give you 1000 atom precision now | 19:35 |
| nmz787_i | what do you want it for | 19:35 |
| genehacker | 10 angstrom precision good enough for you? | 19:36 |
| genehacker | And your probably right about not needing it | 19:37 |
| nmz787_i | kanzure: you'd probably be interested in erik sanchez's work out of pdx.edu | 19:37 |
| nmz787_i | kanzure: the neutral atom microscope is pretty compelling | 19:38 |
| nmz787_i | all this high precision stuff requires self-assembly or high vacuum though | 19:38 |
| kanzure | genehacker is doing molecules instead | 19:39 |
| nmz787_i | isn't that the latter case i gave? | 19:40 |
| nmz787_i | err | 19:41 |
| nmz787_i | former | 19:41 |
| nmz787_i | 'self-assembly' | 19:41 |
| kanzure | self-assembly doesn't really discriminate for or against single atom | 19:42 |
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| nmz787_i | neither did i discriminate | 19:43 |
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| nmz787_i | FIB can deposit or mill | 19:44 |
| nmz787_i | electrons can activate low pressure gasses somewhat too | 19:44 |
| nmz787_i | (low pressure such that the electrons can still maintain a user-determined straight path in the chamber from the source to the target) | 19:45 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474-4422%2809%2970062-6/fulltext#article_upsell | 20:02 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/51175064d15dd9f46acb761aca9aeb90.txt | 20:03 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://f1000.com/prime/718180370#abstract | 20:04 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16297637?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f1000m,isrctn | 20:05 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.mcn.2005.10.006 | 20:05 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/96b8775a611a8bb8efc9a618e679eac2.txt | 20:05 |
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| heath | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v4/n6/full/nchem.1354.html | 21:19 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnchem.1354 | 21:19 |
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