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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S135041771300120X | 03:50 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23769747 | 03:51 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.ultsonch.2013.05.012 | 03:51 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20Synergistic%20effect%20of%20dual-frequency%20ultrasound%20irradiation%20in%20the%20one-pot%20synthesis%20of%203%2C5-disubstituted%20isoxazoles%0A%20.pdf | 03:51 |
| ebowden | Yay! One of them worked! | 03:52 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24996137 | 03:56 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.ejmech.2014.06.046 | 03:56 |
| ebowden | \:D/ | 03:57 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20817032 | 04:13 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.jneumeth.2010.08.022 | 04:14 |
| ebowden | \:D/ | 04:15 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21073338 | 04:19 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1146%2Fannurev-pathol-011110-130303 | 04:19 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/249319089_Resveratrol_improves_postnatal_hippocampal_neurogenesis_and_brain_derived_neurotrophic_factor_in_prenatally_stressed_rats | 04:40 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18296731 | 04:42 |
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| ebowden | Aww ;C | 04:43 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/28f36b2146d478bcae623ceaced43c2a.txt | 04:43 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://ebm.sagepub.com/content/233/3/251.long | 04:43 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev-pathol-011110-130303 | 04:47 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1146%2Fannurev-pathol-011110-130303 | 04:48 |
| ebowden | \:D/ | 04:48 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nrg/journal/v9/n7/full/nrg2340.html | 04:56 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnrg2340 | 04:56 |
| ebowden | paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nn101724r | 04:59 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp0111665 | 05:03 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/abs/10.2217/nnm.10.129?journalCode=nnm | 05:07 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/61f4b56d1ce22dc5a916c08631fb5b07.txt | 05:07 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576512000203 | 05:59 |
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| kanzure | hrmph | 08:28 |
| heath | neat idea: http://ajw.asahi.com/article/sci_tech/technology/AJ201409230007 | 08:31 |
| heath | "The nation's central mapping body has developed a software program to create inexpensive three-dimensional road maps for the visually impaired with 3-D printers." | 08:31 |
| heath | closest i can find on their site right now though: http://cyberjapandata.gsi.go.jp/3d/index.html | 08:32 |
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| kanzure | "Practical delegation of computation using multiple servers" http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~benriva/ccs11.pdf | 10:45 |
| kanzure | "VerSum: Verifiable computations over large public logs" http://people.csail.mit.edu/nickolai/papers/vandenhooff-versum.pdf | 10:48 |
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| kanzure | https://soundcloud.com/tm-radio-mixes/yuriy-from-russia-russian-roulette-episode-034-19-mar-2014 | 12:35 |
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| nmz787_i | delinquentme: not sure, but you could train yourself with some electrolyte standards (thinks delinquentme will just go buy lots of different colored gatorade) and lick people... continuously :P | 12:46 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: srsly though, maybe some electrochemical thing... or some chelation crap (err, are all electrolytes minerals? prob not)... or some spectroscopy thing, but that will be a few more years to get small enough to be wearble at a reasonable price point | 12:48 |
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| nmz787_i | delinquentme: really depends what you're interested in... maybe look into the polarization of the light reflected off the skin? electrochemical seems like you might get something to work... like have a signal/frequency generator, pass that to an electrode on the skin, have a sensing electrode nearby that goes to an ADC, then sweep the frequency on the sig-gen and look to see if the power vs freq changes through time (i.e. sweating) | 12:53 |
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| delinquentme | nmz787, simplest method seems like measuring conductance/resistance through the skin | 13:00 |
| delinquentme | as the salt / electrolyte content lessen ( as one would expect through heavy exercise ) that the electrical properties would modulate | 13:01 |
| delinquentme | at least thats the current nice hypothesis | 13:01 |
| archels | impedance spectroscopy might be an option to measure stuff | 13:07 |
| kjskjskjs | you think potassium ions might conduct at different RF frequencies than sodium ions? | 13:07 |
| archels | I don't even know where to begin responding to that | 13:07 |
| archels | I think I'll just stick with "no" for now | 13:08 |
| archels | measuring conductance is mostly going to measure sweatiness level | 13:10 |
| kjskjskjs | what do you mean by "impedance spectroscopy", sorry? | 13:10 |
| kjskjskjs | I thought you were talking about measuring the impedance of your skin at different AC frequencies | 13:10 |
| archels | that's exactly it | 13:11 |
| archels | the electrode chemistry and mechanisms behind the response tend to be quite complex though | 13:12 |
| archels | "Sweat is controlled by the sympathetic nervous system,[1] so skin conductance is used as an indication of psychological or physiological arousal. If the sympathetic branch of the autonomic nervous system is highly aroused, then sweat gland activity also increases, which in turn increases skin conductance." | 13:15 |
| kanzure | "Putin Warns Of "Nuclear Power Consequences" If Attempts To Blackmail Russia Don't Stop" | 13:23 |
| kanzure | man i want some nuclear power consequences of my own | 13:23 |
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| kjskjskjs | I don't remember if I had ever posted this here | 13:27 |
| kjskjskjs | http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/dev3/gears/ | 13:27 |
| kjskjskjs | it's a DHTML toy that you can use to design organically-shaped gears | 13:29 |
| kjskjskjs | it's like the simplest possible approach to iterative design to satisfy constraints | 13:30 |
| kjskjskjs | in this case the constraint is that the gears have to not collide when they are spinning with a given relative ratio | 13:30 |
| kanzure | did you read http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/Automated%20Synthesis%20and%20Optimization%20of%20Gear%20Train%20Topologies%20-%20Albert%20Swantner%20-%202009.pdf | 13:30 |
| kanzure | or at least look at | 13:30 |
| kanzure | i don't really mean read.. | 13:31 |
| kjskjskjs | yes, I'm pretty sure I read about a third of it some months ago | 13:31 |
| kanzure | close enough | 13:31 |
| nmz787_i | this is kindof a neat idea https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/753230753/packed-pixels-an-extra-monitor-for-your-laptop-0?ref=category | 13:32 |
| kjskjskjs | so I'm not designing entire gear trains here, just individual gears | 13:33 |
| kjskjskjs | I should update the images on the page with the planetary gearset I successfully designed with it | 13:34 |
| kjskjskjs | where the planets were in the form of stick figures | 13:34 |
| nmz787_i | .tell delinquentme I'd expect the salinity to stay pretty constant or increase even, since salt continues to pour out of the glands, but evap removes water | 13:43 |
| yoleaux | nmz787_i: I'll pass your message to delinquentme. | 13:43 |
| nmz787_i | .tell delinquentme and yep impedance spectroscopy is what I meant | 13:43 |
| yoleaux | nmz787_i: I'll pass your message to delinquentme. | 13:43 |
| nmz787_i | kjskjskjs: different atoms definitely have different electronic situations, so they'll respond to stimulus differently... in some cases the signal may be apparently different, or obscured completely, or you need to tease out the signal with math if it's possible | 13:46 |
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| kanzure | https://developers.google.com/games/services/android/antipiracy "assuming it's the same anti-piracy mechanism they use for paid apps (and it looks like it is), then you really shouldn't rely on it. Sometimes it takes hours to report an install as "licensed", and crackers have developed tools (apkmania, i'm looking at you) to automatically strip and recompile apks that contain this license check." | 14:02 |
| kanzure | "The way to do it would be to give developers an API they can use on a server (something we've been asking for a while), but it doesn't look like that's going to happen." | 14:02 |
| nmz787_i | maybe this model of security is all wrong, would it be more effective to eliminate dishonesty in the world? (I guess this current stuff would then be a tide-over) | 14:04 |
| kanzure | there are various cryptography things you could do to make certain forms of dishonesty more costly or less incentivized | 14:12 |
| kanzure | here's a possibly bad idea: the discrepancy between packer and dockerfiles is really annoying. you could use a dockerfile, then have a packer-related proxy that sits in front of $DOCKER_HOST to intercept docker actions. (or some other tap into docker) (and then convert everything into an updated packer template) | 14:15 |
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| kanzure | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIVAluSL9SU | 15:39 |
| yoleaux | The real value of bitcoin and crypto currency technology - Bitcoin Properly - YouTube | 15:39 |
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| nmz787_i | at this point I don't think I can trust bitcoin until a few generations after its creators die... that might persuade me that there aren't backdoors. Or, you know, mathematicians can independently prove it is secure. | 16:30 |
| kanzure | are you worried about backwords in ecdsa? | 16:31 |
| drethelin | why wouldn't it have been hacked by now if it was hackable? | 16:32 |
| kanzure | shit shit shit i mean backdoors | 16:32 |
| nmz787_i | cause why hack it now when it could be a retirement nest-egg heist? | 16:32 |
| nmz787_i | let it gain trust and value | 16:33 |
| kanzure | so here's a scenario for you | 16:33 |
| nmz787_i | then have wider impact | 16:33 |
| kanzure | let's assume for a moment that you are okay with ecdsa | 16:33 |
| kanzure | and you are not as okay with bitcoin itself | 16:33 |
| kanzure | anyone that wants to create a competing cryptocurrency at this point is almost always going to have to use the blockchain as the basis | 16:33 |
| kanzure | for how to distribute their new cryptocurrency | 16:33 |
| kanzure | even stripe allocated 19% of their ripple fork straight to bitcoin users based on their values in the blockchain | 16:34 |
| kanzure | naturally the sane thing to do is to sell your cut of the 19% as soon as possible | 16:34 |
| drethelin | nmz787 well because it's gotten up to a thousand dollars and then crashed way back down | 16:34 |
| kanzure | but this will continue to happen | 16:34 |
| drethelin | so there's a possibility it will go much lower | 16:34 |
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| kanzure | also if one person is able to figure out an exploit, they have to worry about others doing the same before they take the opportunity to attack | 16:35 |
| drethelin | that too | 16:35 |
| kanzure | and even if they do attack, what's the big deal | 16:35 |
| drethelin | though that's probably less of a worry if you built in a backdoor | 16:35 |
| drethelin | eg if satoshi has the keys they're probably hidden enough that only he can find em | 16:35 |
| kanzure | what are they actually going to attack-- ecdsa? sign away all your bitcoin? | 16:35 |
| kanzure | bring the network to a halt? | 16:36 |
| drethelin | hmm | 16:36 |
| drethelin | the value of hacking bitcoin is kind of dependent on being able to get a big lump sum OUT of bitcoin also | 16:37 |
| drethelin | like | 16:37 |
| drethelin | as soon as people find out about it presumably bitcoin goes to zero | 16:37 |
| drethelin | so if you could backdoor people's wallets you wouldn't be able to use all the bitcoins you now have | 16:37 |
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| kanzure | drethelin: i wrote some comments here about this topic http://sfultong.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-stupidity-of-blockchain.html | 16:43 |
| kanzure | (in the replies) | 16:43 |
| drethelin | hmm | 16:45 |
| drethelin | it's like excatly the opposite of why most people try to get in on altcoins | 16:45 |
| drethelin | eg to own a relatively large percentage while they're still worthless | 16:45 |
| kanzure | nmz787_i: also you should ask me for some bitcoin. | 16:49 |
| nmz787_i | can i have some bitcoin? | 16:52 |
| nmz787_i | reading backlog | 16:52 |
| nmz787_i | drethelin: I'm thinking more about the stuff that video kanzure posted... about using it for non-monetary things... like stuxnet via some bitcoin login thing that has code attached | 16:54 |
| nmz787_i | or idk, screwing with transactions rather than running away with money | 16:55 |
| kanzure | usually people ask for bitcoin by giving the other party an address to pay | 16:55 |
| nmz787_i | screwing your competitors | 16:55 |
| nmz787_i | i thought you had my address | 16:55 |
| nmz787_i | you're the only person who I've transacted with | 16:56 |
| kanzure | i might have an address for you. | 16:56 |
| kanzure | maybe. | 16:56 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/cloudtools/troposphere "Python library to create AWS CloudFormation descriptions" | 16:57 |
| kanzure | "Heat also endeavours to provide compatibility with the AWS CloudFormation template format, so that many existing CloudFormation templates can be launched on OpenStack" | 16:57 |
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| kanzure | bitcoin transaction alerts http://coinspy.io/ | 17:26 |
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| kanzure | .title https://www.drupal.org/SA-CORE-2014-005 | 20:27 |
| yoleaux | SA-CORE-2014-005 - Drupal core - SQL injection | Drupal.org | 20:27 |
| kanzure | d4de^: see above... | 20:28 |
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| kanzure | vulnerable: fastcompany.com economist.com csail.mit.edu sens.org /syntheticbiology.arc.nasa.gov iftf.org cyberlaw.stanford.edu linuxjournal.com popsci.com theonion.com | 20:43 |
| kanzure | lolol https://groups.drupal.org/government-sites | 20:45 |
| justanotheruser | oh wow | 20:47 |
| kanzure | how about some central banks? http://www.eestipank.ee/ http://www.bcb.gob.bo/ http://www.bnm.md/ http://www.cbos.gov.sd/ | 20:50 |
| justanotheruser | Is that a risk though? | 20:50 |
| kanzure | defacement? | 20:50 |
| justanotheruser | well it isn't significant because it is a central bank vs another part of the government | 20:51 |
| justanotheruser | its not like I can log in as admin and print $10000000000000000 and transfer it to myself | 20:51 |
| kanzure | who knows? they were silly enough to use drupal. | 20:51 |
| justanotheruser | lol | 20:51 |
| justanotheruser | never used drupal. why should I continue to never use it? | 20:52 |
| justanotheruser | just not secure software? | 20:52 |
| kanzure | wordpress on steroids | 20:52 |
| justanotheruser | Its a blogging platform on steroids? | 20:52 |
| kanzure | it's one of those highly-coupled php/mysql applications that does-everything-and-the-kitchen-sink | 20:53 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal | 20:53 |
| justanotheruser | so you're saying its bloat | 20:54 |
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| kanzure | "used as a back-end framework for at least 2.1% of all Web sites worldwide" | 20:54 |
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