2014-12-10.log

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fennwhat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pika00:48
fennhttp://cmiae.org/wp-content/uploads/pika.wav00:53
fennomg too much http://www.go2moon.com/Pika.html01:02
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Viper168_gotta catch em all03:06
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maakufenn: cuteness overload03:24
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kanzure.title08:34
yoleauxAlaska Pika08:34
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kragenBoscop: probably channels I'm not on08:47
kragen.wik trehalose08:48
yoleaux"Trehalose, also known as mycose or tremalose, is a natural alpha-linked disaccharide formed by an α,α-1,1-glucoside bond between two α-glucose units." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trehalose08:48
kanzure.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJz7jkhUr6008:56
yoleauxMama Cass - Octopus Briareus Interaction - YouTube08:56
kanzure"because octopuses are difficult to breed in captivity, most pets octopuses are caught in the wild08:57
kanzurehmm08:57
kanzure"The home sized animals only live about one year and the dwarfs often less"08:59
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nmz787_ihttp://www.librecalc.com/en/09:34
nmz787_i.title09:34
yoleauxLibreCalc | A free (as in speech) calculator, made with free software, using free software, and released as open hardware09:34
nmz787_iwhoo they used KiCad09:34
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fennwow very cool09:48
fenn"It’s possible to make BGA boards with Kicad and a frying pan!09:48
fennare they going to incorporate Sage?09:49
nmz787_ithey didn't mention it09:50
nmz787_imentioned one or two other CAS systems09:50
nmz787_i(computer algebra)09:51
nmz787_iidk if they'd do calculus too09:51
nmz787_iFWIW sage is something like a gig and a half of bytes09:51
fenni've never actually gotten maxima to work09:51
nmz787_iat least on ubunty09:51
nmz787_iubuntu09:51
kanzureoctopus egg laying is pretty useful for potential directed evolution experiments09:56
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nmz787_i1fenn: it's likely javascript, but sage has an online presence https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects09:57
* nmz787_i1 is ducking and covering under my standing desk, re: seismic drill09:57
fennyeah it turns out mathematicians are lazy and won't bother to install your software if they have to think about it09:57
fenndoriru!!09:58
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nmz787_i used sage cloud for the calc class I was just in10:00
nmz787_ihere is the calc project we had to do https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/9f1550d0-ed4d-4511-9160-2bac6e3af2dd/files/ttest.sagews10:00
nmz787_iit should be publically viewable10:00
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nmz787_isupposedly this is a decent one or two time read for reference and jargon http://www.uml.org.cn/c++/pdf/DesignPatterns.pdf10:03
fennfwiw this is what "cloud" stuff looks like without css or js: http://fennetic.net/irc/welcome_to_web_1.9_stable.png10:04
kanzureyou can't complain until you have completely implemented a (public) graceful fallback implementation10:05
fennoh i'll get right on that10:05
* fenn fixes the internet10:05
kanzurehuh? this is just sagemath i thought10:05
kanzurethat's not the entire internet10:05
fennthe majority of sites made after 2010 were done with zero consideration for accessibility10:07
fennand apparently the average web page half life is 100 days10:07
nmz787_ifenn: can you scroll to the bottom and see the images?10:08
nmz787_ithey should be SVG10:08
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fennoh i thought it rendered stuff in realtime with js10:08
nmz787_i(I guess your pic shows you at the bottom)10:08
nmz787_iI think they are cached until the user hits 'run'10:09
fennthere aren't any <img> elements in the document10:09
nmz787_ii.e. https://cloud.sagemath.com/blobs//projects/9f1550d0-ed4d-4511-9160-2bac6e3af2dd/.sage/temp/compute4dc2/21988/tmp_1rWdz8.svg?uuid=abc01599-391b-4d75-b9c8-76c5b1458ad110:09
nmz787_iaka https://cloud.sagemath.com/blobs//projects/9f1550d0-ed4d-4511-9160-2bac6e3af2dd/.sage/temp/compute4dc2/21988/tmp_1rWdz8.svg?uuid=abc01599-391b-4d75-b9c8-76c5b1458ad110:09
nmz787_ioh, same10:10
chris_99i present you the greatest idea in the history of mankind - http://beardbaubles.tictail.com/product/beard-baubles10:10
nmz787_iheh heh heh10:10
fennoh i remember that rectangle method from like middle school?10:11
fennyou're supposed to make the midpoint intersect the curve to minimize error10:12
nmz787_iyeah had to show inner, outer, left and right rectangle method, then compare with Simpsons approximation10:12
nmz787_inah that is midpoint rectangles, so another method, which we didn't show10:12
nmz787_ithe point was to get an upper and lower bound for the estimate10:13
fennhttp://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/reinforcements/Powerdasher_Drill_vehicle.jpg http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/reinforcements/Powerdasher_Drill_robot.jpg10:15
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nmz787_ijrayhawk: yum yum? http://www.rosinwarehouse.com/Rosin_Baked_Potato.html11:33
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kanzurepeer review stuff (pubpeer) http://www.wired.com/2014/12/pubpeer-fights-for-anonymity/12:23
kanzure"Unfortunately, the anonymity that makes PubPeer work is under threat. A prominent cancer scientist, unhappy with the attention his research papers have received on PubPeer, is suing some of our anonymous commenters for defamation. And he is trying to use a subpoena to force PubPeer to turn over whatever identifying information we have for them."12:24
kanzurewell then your users aren't actually anonymous, duh12:24
namespace:P12:24
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nmz787_ifenn and kanzure -- btw, aliexpress let me know that my tablet orders were "frozen due to suspicious seller activity"13:14
nmz787_i"You order is currently frozen, due to the sellers suspicious trading activities."13:14
nmz787_i" We have suspended this seller’s account because we have detected unsafe trading activities. We have therefore requested the seller to provide sufficient evidence, such as shipping documents and certificates which they must provide within 3 business days (not calendar days)."13:14
nmz787_i"If the seller fails to provide any evidence within 3 business days, we will issue you with a full refund. In the event the seller does provide evidence, it could take about 15 business days for the case to be resolved."13:14
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chris_99i ordered something from taobao but never got it :( and i don't know how to complain since i don't speak chinese , i think i'll stick to aliexpress13:15
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kragennamespace: fraudulent tablets?14:25
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namespacekragen: Huh?14:35
namespaceOh you wanted a different n name.14:35
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kragensorry14:36
kragennmz787: fraudulent tablets?  are these the $12 Android tablets?14:36
nmz787_iyes14:48
nmz787_ithe new 'official' low for tablet prices I've seen now is for a 7" (1024x800 I think) quad-core intel atom tablet for $40 two weeks ago (currently at $50)14:49
nmz787_ithough I found a motorola photon q locally for $35 that also features 3G and a slide-out qwerty keyboard... but it is more like a 3" or something14:50
nmz787_ihmm, another bunnie huang product http://www.adafruit.com/product/60914:51
nmz787_i.title14:51
yoleauxNeTV Starter Pack ID: 609 - $150.00 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits14:51
nmz787_ihuh, their webpage/site is just a mediawiki http://www.kosagi.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page14:52
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nmz787_i"This isn’t some lame Intel-style bra-padding exercise. This is full-on process technology bad-assery at its finest. This is Neo decoding the Matrix. This is Mal shooting first. It’s a stack of almost 40 individual, active transistors in a single spot. It’s a game changer, and it’s not vapor ware."14:57
nmz787_ichris_99: some commercial printer head microfluidics (I actually can't tell what is fluidic and non-fluidic) http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=423414:58
chris_99isn't it a microchip?14:59
chris_99oh it's both?15:00
kanzure15:00 < wyager> op_null: IIRC, Google did a study that showed that, at sea level, you expect something like .25 random bit flips per hour per gig of non-error-corrected RAM. So you just need to use a few GB*hours to have a reasonable expectation of a bit flip15:03
kragenUS$40 sounds like a pretty good price15:03
chris_99kanzure, have you seen a paper from some conference based on this, where they registered domains with bitflipped bits15:04
kanzureyes15:04
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kanzuretrue heroes15:04
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kanzure15:04 < wyager> Oops, it was .025-.07, not .25. Still pretty high15:11
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heathpyramid is a rather nice framework16:40
* heath continues being sick16:40
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jrayhawkmemory's constantly getting lower-energy, though, so bits are constantly getting easier to flip17:22
jrayhawki don't know what the scaling properties of that would be, though17:22
kanzurei was trying to find something on arxiv that would have that scaling factor,17:27
kanzureinstead i found "How biochemical resources determine fundamental limits in cellular sensing" http://arxiv.org/pdf/1308.1449.pdf17:27
kanzure"The physics of information" http://arxiv.org/pdf/0708.2837.pdf17:28
kanzure"That which is not forbidden is mandatory" hey i like these people17:36
kanzure"the discovery of horizontal gene transfer in multicellular eukaryotes[38–42]" "Massive horizontal gene transfer in bdelloid rotifers"17:41
kanzure"Horizontal gene transfer of an entire metabolic pathway between a eukaryotic alga and its DNA virus" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2720186/17:41
kanzure"It is estimated that 20%–40% of microorganisms in surface sea waters are killed by viruses each day." (from that last link)17:42
jrayhawkgood lord17:46
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kanzure"And remember, being optimistic doesn't make you biased, just like being pessimistic doesn't make you objective." wait what... why wouldn't you just say "just like being pessimistic doesn't make you biased"?17:52
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Lemminkainenpaperbot http://www.sciencemag.org/content/338/6109/903.abstract?ijkey=b495eb5ae44f1a9e7387185de67604daa4d756fb&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha20:03
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.122633820:03
kanzureanima mundi recalibration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgDMjA-agg&t=1m50s20:05
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kanzurehello juul20:11
AjnaninAnyone use 9 methyl beta carboline?20:21
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kanzurerussia economy stuff http://www.awarablogs.com/putin-midterm-interim-results/20:51
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nmz787.title http://www.businessinsider.com/groundbreaking-idea-of-lifes-origin-2014-1223:24
yoleauxGroundbreaking Idea Of Life's Origin - Business Insider23:24
nmz787"He also showed that RNA, the nucleic acid that many scientists believe served as the precursor to DNA-based life, is a particularly cheap building material. Once RNA arose, he argues, its “Darwinian takeover” was perhaps not surprising. The chemistry of the primordial soup, random mutations, geography, catastrophic events and countless other factors have contributed to the fine details of Earth’s diverse flora and fauna. But ...23:24
nmz787... according to England’s theory, the underlying principle driving the whole process is dissipation-driven adaptation of matter."23:24
nmz787"In a September paper in the Journal of Chemical Physics, he reported the theoretical minimum amount of dissipation that can occur during the self-replication of RNA molecules and bacterial cells, and showed that it is very close to the actual amounts these systems dissipate when replicating."23:25
nmz787http://www.englandlab.com/uploads/7/8/0/3/7803054/2013jcpsrep.pdf23:25
nmz787"?Besides self-replication, greater structural organization is another means by which strongly driven systems ramp up their ability to dissipate energy. A plant, for example, is much better at capturing and routing solar energy through itself than an unstructured heap of carbon atoms. Thus, England argues that under certain conditions, matter will spontaneously self-organize."23:31
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