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| kanzure | re: rabbits, sheena has like 40 right now so let's trick her into doing it | 05:44 |
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| heath | https://github.com/crista/exercises-in-programming-style | 07:33 |
| heath | Comprehensive collection of well-known, and not so well-known, programming styles using a simple computational task, term frequency. All programs run with the following command line: $ python tf-NN.py ../pride-and-prejudice.txt | 07:34 |
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| juri_ | kanzure: have you seen my talk yet? | 08:39 |
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| kanzure | no | 09:00 |
| kanzure | that's fenn's job | 09:00 |
| * fenn pleads the fifth | 09:00 | |
| kanzure | roboculture does not allow pleading the fifth | 09:01 |
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| heath | https://www.google.com/settings/u/0/ads opt out of targeted ads | 09:07 |
| heath | juri_: link? | 09:09 |
| fenn | heath http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2014/31c3_-_6417_-_en_-_saal_g_-_201412271245_-_3d_casting_aluminum_-_julia_longtin/download/#download | 09:10 |
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| heath | fenn: thanks | 09:33 |
| heath | juri_: this is cool, i didn't realize you were so close | 09:33 |
| heath | juri_: gf and i moved pretty far away now | 09:34 |
| juri_ | heath: thanks. :) | 09:49 |
| juri_ | i can use a hand or 4. ;P | 09:49 |
| delinquentme | why dont we have stones of levity | 10:00 |
| kanzure | that might be testicular cancer | 10:00 |
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| nmz787_i | I don't understand why pigeons are used for this chemistry acronym: | 10:41 |
| nmz787_i | http://s.allacronyms.com/banners/3022197_1.jpg | 10:41 |
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| kanzure | i think it's a reference to bird droppings, not sure which thing though | 10:49 |
| kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8839458 | 10:52 |
| yoleaux | A positive leap second will be introduced at the end of June 2015 | Hacker News | 10:52 |
| nmz787_i | SiH == SHit? | 11:09 |
| kanzure | nah | 11:09 |
| kanzure | the top hats don't really help with my bird poop theory | 11:10 |
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| delinquentme | oracle | 11:18 |
| delinquentme | add_header "Access-Control-Allow-Origin" "*"; | 11:18 |
| delinquentme | both servers: location / { add_header "Access-Control-Allow-Origin" "*"; } | 11:19 |
| delinquentme | why in fuck am I still getting errors? | 11:19 |
| delinquentme | XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://146.148.94.58/render. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'http://107.178.215.76' is therefore not allowed access. | 11:19 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: https://gist.github.com/nmz787/5652391#file-server-py-L43 | 11:21 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: maybe you need to add those other headers too | 11:21 |
| nmz787_i | being called from here https://gist.github.com/nmz787/5652391#file-server-py-L68 | 11:22 |
| delinquentme | but its telling me the headers I need *right* there | 11:24 |
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| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/open-source/Quantifying%20the%20value%20of%20open-source%20hardware%20development.pdf | 11:54 |
| juri_ | mmm? | 11:56 |
| kanzure | that was via Joshua Pearce <professor.pearce@gmail.com> | 11:57 |
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| tiktaalik | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-79856-6_10 | 13:17 |
| tiktaalik | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-79856-6_10 | 13:18 |
| paperbot | http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-3-642-79856-6_10.pdf | 13:19 |
| tiktaalik | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-3-642-79856-6_10.pdf | 13:20 |
| tiktaalik | :( | 13:20 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/14eebcd9bf4dce42212260ff54e61c40.txt | 13:22 |
| archels | tiktaalik: paperbot is experiencing some difficulties at the moment. have you tried libgen.org? | 13:25 |
| kanzure | have you tried your local library? | 13:26 |
| tiktaalik | kanzure: that would be sad | 13:26 |
| tiktaalik | archels: is libgen down? | 13:27 |
| archels | it wouldn't surprise me | 13:27 |
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| archels | try http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ | 13:28 |
| tiktaalik | archels: sweet, thanks | 13:28 |
| archels | don't forget to pester kanzure about fixing paperbot | 13:29 |
| tiktaalik | kanzure: what's the problem with it? take pull requests? | 13:29 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot | 13:38 |
| tiktaalik | what's the problem with it? | 13:39 |
| kanzure | aren't you the one reporting a bug to me? | 13:39 |
| tiktaalik | "tiktaalik: paperbot is experiencing some difficulties at the moment." | 13:40 |
| tiktaalik | I thought it was a general problem | 13:40 |
| kanzure | right now the most useful thing would be more unit tests for paperbot v2 in paperbot/ | 13:40 |
| archels | getting it to work again on stuff it could fetch earlier would also be awesome :3 | 13:49 |
| archels | I think the bug is, "it's broken" | 13:49 |
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| nmz787_i | tiktaalik: sometimes the bugs are related to zotero, unless that has been removed from paperbot currently running in this room | 13:54 |
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| archels | I'm sorry, maybe I'm under the false impression this is something that a rollback would fix | 14:02 |
| kanzure | try it | 14:05 |
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| nmz787_i | this kind of behaviour really discourages me from being interested in helping DIYbio at large "Let's take this off list next unless others are interested" | 14:22 |
| nmz787_i | like how the hell will that ever be beneficial to people searching the internet | 14:22 |
| kanzure | yep.... | 14:23 |
| kragen | nmz787_i: maybe if they publish the eventual solution | 14:31 |
| kragen | a lot of people still haven't figured out how to handle openness-by-default | 14:31 |
| nmz787_i | idk how it is hard to do... you just do less work (always send messages to the same destination) | 14:33 |
| nmz787_i | I blame all the pansies who don't know how to setup email box filters, then complain mailing lists are 'too noisy' | 14:34 |
| nmz787_i | 'oh things are getting too noisy, let's make a new mailing list' | 14:34 |
| nmz787_i | disgusts me | 14:35 |
| nmz787_i | saddens me | 14:35 |
| nmz787_i | this just looks really cool http://www.yokowoconnector.com/product/spiral_connector/ | 14:36 |
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| nmz787_i | hmm, I wonder if/how deuterium relates to deuteronomy | 14:50 |
| nmz787_i | something about 2? | 14:51 |
| nmz787_i | " Deuteronomion, "second law"" | 14:51 |
| nmz787_i | from Greek | 14:51 |
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| nmz787_i | paperbot: INCLUDE D:\Jose\HDMT007_558\cds.lib | 16:56 |
| nmz787_i | paperbot http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/0269249X.2011.587642 | 16:57 |
| nmz787_i | damn sidechannels | 16:57 |
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| delinquentme | Anyone have informed estimates on the volume of data that something like a sensor laden jet engine would give off per hour or per flight? | 17:09 |
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| cluckj | delinquentme, african or european? | 17:24 |
| delinquentme | cluckj, euro?? maybe ? I dont understand the question | 17:25 |
| kragen | nmz787: well, email filtering is indeed a thing you have to do... | 17:25 |
| cluckj | delinquentme, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIlW-ovx0Y | 17:27 |
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| delinquentme | cluckj, OIC | 17:34 |
| cluckj | :) | 17:40 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: why hasn't someone just written a compatibility layer to prettify the mged scripting interface (or whatever the command syntax is called in the 'create a radio' demo here starting on pg 23 (paper pg 11) http://brlcad.org/VolumeII-Introduction_to_MGED.pdf | 18:14 |
| kanzure | because nobody wants to use tcl | 18:15 |
| nmz787 | what is tcl, the language that powers mged's terminal? | 18:15 |
| nmz787 | I mean, why wouldn't I just write a script that looks like the stuff in my implcitCAD script file, that generates an mged script file? | 18:16 |
| nmz787 | err, a script that would convert the .escad looking stuff | 18:16 |
| nmz787 | idk if mged can open script files (whatever their interactive syntax is), but I can at least paste in multiple lines at once and have it work | 18:17 |
| kanzure | a compiler for openscad to mged tcl seems like an exercise in futility and hatred | 18:17 |
| kanzure | instead of pasting lines into their prompt you should just use it as a scripting tool, unless you very specifically are using it interactively for some reason | 18:19 |
| kanzure | anyway, python-brlcad wraps most of the primitives and commands that mged has access to | 18:19 |
| nmz787 | ugh, now mged doesn't recognize when I type | 18:21 |
| nmz787 | at what point do I just give up because of things like this and "Let's take this off list next unless others are interested" and say "screw it" and just drop a bunch of money on closed-source CAD tools> | 18:23 |
| nmz787 | ? | 18:23 |
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| nmz787 | I wonder if I've spent more hours trying to decide what to use that at my current rate I could have just bought something | 18:24 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: that was a serious question | 18:29 |
| kanzure | dude i have like 5000 conversations going on right now, wait your turn | 18:30 |
| nmz787 | damn | 18:30 |
| * nmz787 has been lonely most of the day | 18:31 | |
| kanzure | also you can ask in #brlcad | 18:33 |
| kanzure | but they are only available during normal business hours (sometimes they are up later) | 18:33 |
| kanzure | (because they are the military) | 18:33 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning. | 18:38 |
| nmz787 | Good evening! | 18:40 |
| nmz787 | I guess we are on opposing sides of the planet! | 18:40 |
| * nmz787 waves into the floor toward you | 18:40 | |
| poppingtonic | good morning | 18:45 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: how do I check the output of the python-brlcad stuff? does it also have export functions or a method? | 18:51 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad/tree/master/examples | 18:55 |
| kanzure | generates .g files | 18:55 |
| kanzure | which mged can open | 18:55 |
| kanzure | or other brlcad tools, there's like 400 it installs | 18:56 |
| JayDugger | Possibly, but I work nights. It's circadian morning, not celestial. | 19:00 |
| nmz787 | I was reading a paper on circadian rhythms, body temp, sleepiness index, and the effect of modafinil, d-amphetamine, and placebo yesterday. It was neat to see the temp curves associated with day/night time | 19:01 |
| kragen | neat | 19:02 |
| kragen | it'd be interesting to see melatonin plotted along with that. maybe i could do that experiment on myself | 19:03 |
| kragen | just melatonin, without comparing to the phenethylamines | 19:03 |
| kragen | and maybe placebo | 19:03 |
| kanzure | they should also plot daily lines of code output | 19:04 |
| JayDugger | Have you a link to that paper, nmz787? | 19:04 |
| kanzure | *daily lines of terse, insightful code | 19:04 |
| nmz787 | lemme check my history | 19:04 |
| JayDugger | Nicely put, kanzure. I was stuck for a snarky comment about code quality. | 19:04 |
| kanzure | *terse, insightful, useful, working code | 19:05 |
| kanzure | *terse, insightful, useful, working code that doesn't make you feel terrible on the inside | 19:05 |
| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/modafinil%20vs%20amphet%20vs%20placebo.pdf | 19:05 |
| kanzure | *terse, insightful, useful, working code that doesn't make you feel terrible on the inside or smell any worse | 19:05 |
| nmz787 | new link http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/modafinil_vs_amphet_vs_placebo.pdf | 19:06 |
| nmz787 | oh, gotta change perms | 19:07 |
| nmz787 | ok | 19:07 |
| nmz787 | good now | 19:07 |
| JayDugger | Thank you. | 19:07 |
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| kanzure | .title https://www.thalmic.com/en/myo/ | 19:20 |
| yoleaux | Myo - Gesture control armband by Thalmic Labs | 19:20 |
| kanzure | (ugh) | 19:20 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, i've sent mors principium est to you right? | 19:29 |
| kanzure | what? | 19:29 |
| kanzure | no | 19:29 |
| delinquentme | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKuzhIQ_wNE | 19:30 |
| delinquentme | layers on layers on layers on layers of good | 19:30 |
| delinquentme | 30 seconds in and goosebumps | 19:31 |
| kanzure | .title | 19:33 |
| yoleaux | MorsPrincipium Est - The Unborn - YouTube | 19:33 |
| kanzure | .wik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect | 19:41 |
| yoleaux | "The microwave auditory effect, also known as the microwave hearing effect or the Frey effect, consists of audible clicks (or, with speech modulation, spoken words) induced by pulsed/modulated microwave frequencies." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect | 19:41 |
| nmz787 | hmm, I wonder if that is related to why I seem to hear sharp frequencies sometimes... like electronics around me changing or something | 19:43 |
| nmz787 | or gamma ray showers | 19:43 |
| nmz787 | I guess I always assumed it was either that or something with some hormonal/salt/sugar related change in my blood | 19:43 |
| kanzure | libgen mirror http://lib.estrorecollege.org/ | 19:44 |
| nmz787 | hmm, that phenomena seems lumped into tinnitus | 19:45 |
| kanzure | and http://lib.freescienceengineering.org/ and http://get.freescienceengineering.org/ | 19:45 |
| nmz787 | .wik tinnitus | 19:45 |
| yoleaux | "Tinnitus /ˈtɪnɪtəs/ or /tɪˈnaɪtəs/; from the Latin word tinnītus meaning "ringing" is the perception of sound within the human ear ("ringing of the ears") when no external sound is present. Despite the origin of the name, "ringing" is only one of many sounds the person may perceive." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinnitus | 19:45 |
| nmz787 | .wik venous hum | 19:47 |
| yoleaux | "Venous hum is a benign phenomenon. At rest, 20% of the cardiac output flows to the brain via the internal carotid and vertebral arteries. This drains via the internal jugular veins. The flow of blood can cause the vein walls to vibrate creating a humming noise which can be heard by the subject." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venous_hum | 19:47 |
| nmz787 | hmm | 19:47 |
| nmz787 | "it can also arise as a subjective phenomenon from an increased awareness of blood flow in the ear" | 19:47 |
| nmz787 | "Rarely, pulsatile tinnitus may be a symptom of potentially life-threatening conditions such as carotid artery aneurysm[26] or carotid artery dissection.[27] Pulsatile tinnitus may also indicate vasculitis, or more specifically, giant cell arteritis. Pulsatile tinnitus may also be an indication of idiopathic intracranial hypertension.[28]" | 19:48 |
| nmz787 | huh, I wonder if that could be detected with some headphone/earbud like sensor | 19:48 |
| kanzure | "Human auditory system response to modulated electromagnetic energy" http://www.thatte.net/frey.pdf | 19:48 |
| nmz787 | hmm, undetermined: http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/fillings.asp | 19:50 |
| nmz787 | 'claim of radio transmissions picked up with tooth fillings by TV show comedian' | 19:51 |
| nmz787 | this doesn't seem to make sense "Attempts were made to match the sounds induced by electromagnetic energy and acoustic energy. The closest match" | 19:55 |
| nmz787 | occurred when the acoustic amplifier was driven by the rf transmitter's modulator. | 19:55 |
| nmz787 | the acoustic amplifier would seem like it should have much lower bandwidth by nature | 19:55 |
| delinquentme | awersomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 19:59 |
| delinquentme | Fuck yes. God when things behave. | 19:59 |
| delinquentme | SO amazing. | 19:59 |
| AmbulatoryCortex | that happens? | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | lelz | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | OH! kanzure | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | i thought of you today | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | ( super homo ) | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | emailinzg you | 20:01 |
| delinquentme | FWIW kanzure has a wallet named after him | 20:02 |
| kanzure | that's not even a bitcoin wallet | 20:04 |
| kanzure | what am i going to put in there, worthless dollars? | 20:04 |
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| kanzure | hrm i was also thinking about "janet yellen promises" but thought better of it | 20:04 |
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| delinquentme | hahaha | 20:07 |
| delinquentme | ill talk to chrome and get that fixed | 20:07 |
| delinquentme | BRB gotta grocery bc need kale | 20:07 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: make taskrabbit do that | 20:07 |
| kanzure | or postmate | 20:07 |
| kanzure | you live in the land of plenty | 20:07 |
| delinquentme | post first paycheck | 20:07 |
| delinquentme | right now I'm stupid poor | 20:08 |
| nmz787 | is there something like that for going to lab class for me? | 20:10 |
| delinquentme | BRB! | 20:10 |
| delinquentme | what nmz787 sez | 20:10 |
| kanzure | yes it's called a bribe and can be purchased on any craigslist page | 20:11 |
| kanzure | 20:10 < ivan> re: libgen: "The person that had the legal right to the .org site died and the site reps can not get access to change the DNS to point to their site." | 20:12 |
| nmz787 | why isn't postmate available online? | 20:18 |
| nmz787 | they must not be interested in really doing business | 20:19 |
| kanzure | lots of people have cell phones | 20:20 |
| kanzure | also, you can just reverse engineer their app | 20:20 |
| nmz787 | I /have/ a cell phone, it happens to be in the other room | 20:20 |
| kanzure | use smali/baksmali | 20:20 |
| kanzure | ah, then use https://github.com/kanzure/googleplay-api | 20:21 |
| nmz787 | nope, they lost my business | 20:25 |
| kragen | kanzure: his sounds like a thing that will continue to be a problem even if we stop using dns | 20:29 |
| kragen | the 'person died and didn't plan' thing | 20:29 |
| kanzure | dns problem isn't the one i'm concerned with in this case | 20:30 |
| kragen | what are you concerned with then | 20:30 |
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| kanzure | well, the libgen person isn't dead | 20:36 |
| kanzure | but at least one libgen person is | 20:36 |
| kanzure | i dunno who has a backup | 20:36 |
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| poppingtonic | there's a local libgen based on Sphinx: http://genofond.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7134 | 20:39 |
| kanzure | .title | 20:39 |
| yoleaux | Library Genesis: Miner's Hut / Барак старателей • View topic - Local LibGen based on Sphinx/Локальный LibGen на базе Sphinx | 20:39 |
| kanzure | sphinx.. hrmph. | 20:39 |
| kanzure | anyway sphinx doesn't seem to be the limiting factor | 20:40 |
| kanzure | rather, the lack of seeders for the 10+ terabytes of data | 20:40 |
| poppingtonic | how many seeders are there? | 20:40 |
| kanzure | actually i haven't looked in a while :) | 20:41 |
| kanzure | when i looked a few years ago it was zero | 20:41 |
| poppingtonic | ofo | 20:41 |
| kanzure | paperbot shoud probably be tweetering that | 20:41 |
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| nmz787 | paperbot on twitter? | 21:08 |
| kanzure | no i am just abusing the word "tweet" | 21:11 |
| nmz787 | I'm pretty sure that could be spun into a billion dollar biz somehow | 21:15 |
| nmz787 | twitterstream of journal articles that we read in here | 21:16 |
| nmz787 | 'better than Science' | 21:16 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: 2015-01-05 21:18:10,817 - brlcad_post_install - DEBUG - Checking brlcad-7.24.0: 7.24 -> 7.24 | 21:18 |
| nmz787 | 2015-01-05 21:18:10,817 - brlcad_post_install - DEBUG - Checking brlcad: None -> None | 21:18 |
| nmz787 | SetupException: Couldn't find a matching brlcad installation ! | 21:18 |
| kanzure | try one of the forks | 21:18 |
| nmz787 | i did which mged, and it was indeed in /usr/brlcad | 21:18 |
| kanzure | they never contributed changes back to my repo | 21:18 |
| nmz787 | ok | 21:19 |
| kanzure | also try the github git repo version instead of the one up on pypi | 21:19 |
| nmz787 | yeah I cloned yours | 21:19 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://www.cell.com/pb/assets/raw/journals/research/cell-reports/Article%20PDFs/celrep1458.pdf | 21:27 |
| nmz787 | .title | 21:27 |
| yoleaux | nmz787: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page. | 21:28 |
| nmz787 | ncsaba - This branch is 10 commits ahead, 11 commits behind kanzure:master | 21:29 |
| nmz787 | :/ | 21:29 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: merging that repo didn't fix it | 22:04 |
| nmz787 | hmm, I got past that bug by deleting the dev 7.24.1 stuff after /usr/brlcad in nano python-brlcad.cfg | 22:08 |
| nmz787 | but then " - Failed checking brlcad installation: Missing header file: /usr/brlcad/include/brlcad/bu/magic.h" | 22:08 |
| nmz787 | ahh, there was some dumb thing about min version being 7.24.0 | 22:10 |
| nmz787 | hah, nathan@nathan-lenovo:~/Projects/github/python-brlcad/examples$ python hilbert_2d.py | 22:11 |
| nmz787 | *** Error in `python': free(): invalid pointer: 0x0000000001649540 *** | 22:11 |
| nmz787 | Aborted (core dumped) | 22:11 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: do I have to use 32-bit brlcad? | 22:17 |
| nmz787 | welp apparently it isn't that I need to use python3 | 22:18 |
| nmz787 | hrmm, well switching to 7.24.0 allowed nosetests to not immediately crash, followed by it segfaulting just moments later | 22:24 |
| * nmz787 thinks I have to learn haskell since implicitCAD seems like it has been the best/easiest so far | 22:24 | |
| kragen | ;) | 22:30 |
| juri_ | eeep! | 22:44 |
| juri_ | i just pushed an upgrade i probably should not have. wrong git command. ;) | 22:46 |
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| nmz787 | well good thing I only have used the cabal available install | 22:50 |
| nmz787 | juri_: can you do a writeup/sentence or three on how I can get running with a git clone of your's? | 22:51 |
| juri_ | not atm. slammed. its on gitorious, tho. | 22:54 |
| nmz787 | do you know of any good haskell tutorials in general? | 22:55 |
| nmz787 | I had read a little of http://learnyouahaskell.com/ | 22:55 |
| juri_ | i know a few, but am still reading them myself. | 22:55 |
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| nmz787 | 23:04 < tolland> nmz787: diybio is a silly idea and it will never catch on ;-D | 23:23 |
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| nmz787 | hrm... maybe I should just learn tcl | 23:58 |
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