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| nmz787 | i see keyword 'brushes' | 00:00 |
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| nmz787 | ah | 00:04 |
| nmz787 | .wik Electronic correlation | 00:04 |
| yoleaux | "Electronic correlation is the interaction between electrons in the electronic structure of a quantum system." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_correlation | 00:04 |
| nmz787 | i thin kthat is what I mean by 'electronics' | 00:04 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp505105a | 00:06 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/In-Silico%20Design%20of%20a%20DonorAntennaAcceptor%20Supramolecular%20Complex%20for%20Photoinduced%20Charge%20Separation.txt | 00:07 |
| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/In-Silico_Design_of_a_DonorAntennaAcceptor_Supramolecular_Complex_for_Photoinduced_Charge_Separation.pdf | 00:07 |
| nmz787 | the name COSMO is so cool. | 00:09 |
| nmz787 | .title http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.2627 | 00:10 |
| yoleaux | [1306.2627] Electronic structure and charge transfer excited states of a multichromophoric antenna | 00:10 |
| nmz787 | https://www.ocb.ch.tum.de/fileadmin/w00bes/www/_migrated_content_uploads/1-deGroot_AnnuRevBiophys13.pdf | 00:11 |
| nmz787 | Solid-State NMR of Nanomachines Involved in Photosynthetic Energy Conversion | 00:11 |
| nmz787 | "Many scientists believe that it will be possible to apply the principles of light harvesting, charge separation, and multielectron catalysis in photosynthesis to the chemical design and synthesis of responsive matrices for the production of hydrogen- or carbon-based solar fuel on a large scale, using water and CO2 as raw materials (53). Natural photosynthesis converts the equivalent of 100–200 TW of power, which is about ten times more ... | 00:13 |
| nmz787 | ... than the ∼14 TW that is currently dissipated by our economies." | 00:13 |
| nmz787 | yoink http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Solid-State_NMR_of_Nanomachines_Involved_in_Photosynthetic_Energy_Conversion.pdf | 00:19 |
| genehacker | there are also molecular logic gates based around something like that | 00:20 |
| genehacker | they aren't very useful thought | 00:20 |
| nmz787 | Quantum Simulation Study of DNA nucleotide Thymine for use | 00:22 |
| nmz787 | in Molecular Devices http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jece/papers/vol1-issue1/A0110106.pdf | 00:22 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1560/IJC.49.2.149/abstract | 00:24 |
| nmz787 | http://www.victoria.ac.nz/raman/publis/pablo/pdf/2010_amjp_78_300.pdf | 00:25 |
| nmz787 | 'Electronic structure, Raman tensors, and resonance phenomena in a simple molecular model' | 00:25 |
| nmz787 | "II. THE TOY MOLECULE" | 00:25 |
| nmz787 | no one tells the run-time of the DFT it seems | 00:27 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/789a13a9cadc4e483c5c49355a7aa4b3.txt | 00:28 |
| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/A_Quantum_Chemistry_Study_of_Binding_Carotenoids_in_the_Bacterial_Light-Harvesting_Complexes.pdf | 00:31 |
| genehacker | yeah, because it takes a long time | 00:31 |
| nmz787 | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3199570/pdf/nihms-189250.pdf | 00:31 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1021%2Fja803074y | 00:31 |
| genehacker | it's probably why no one has done good quantum chemistry of diamonoid mechanosynthesis yet | 00:31 |
| nmz787 | 'Differential Tuning of the Electron Transfer Parameters in 1,3,5- Triarylpyrazolines: A Rational Design Approach for Optimizing the Contrast Ratio of Fluorescent Probes' | 00:31 |
| nmz787 | http://www.rfreitas.com/Nano/McK68141.pdf | 00:33 |
| nmz787 | 'Challenges of Molecular Nanotechnology for Space Exploration' | 00:33 |
| nmz787 | http://www.rfreitas.com/Nano/JNNDimerTool.pdf | 00:34 |
| nmz787 | 'Theoretical Analysis of a Carbon-Carbon Dimer Placement Tool for Diamond Mechanosynthesis' | 00:35 |
| nmz787 | hmm, http://www.vasp.at/ | 00:37 |
| nmz787 | .wik Vienna Ab-initio Simulation Package | 00:37 |
| yoleaux | "The Vienna Ab-initio Simulation Package, better known as VASP, is a package for performing ab initio quantum mechanical molecular dynamics (MD) using either Vanderbilt pseudopotentials, or the projector augmented wave method, and a plane wave basis set." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Ab-initio_Simulation_Package | 00:37 |
| nmz787 | "A slightly lower level of theory (in which the geometry is optimized at HF/3-21G∗) has a mean absolute deviation of 0.14 eV" | 00:38 |
| nmz787 | "Thermal noise at room temperature is about 0.02 eV; in conventional positionally uncontrolled chemistry, errors on the order of 0.14 eV might well influence reaction rates and the dominant reaction pathway taken when multiple alternative reaction pathways are present. H" | 00:38 |
| nmz787 | "The DCB6-X family of dimer placement tools, for X = Si, Ge, Sn, and Pb, should be stable in a vacuum when used at room temperature, and possibly at significantly higher temperatures." | 00:40 |
| nmz787 | we'd better start computing now if we ever want to make any progress since we don't have supercomputers | 00:41 |
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| archels | .gc "deep.learning" | 02:51 |
| yoleaux | archels: Sorry, that command (.gc) crashed. | 02:51 |
| archels | frack | 02:52 |
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| archels | hmmm this article takes "supervised training on millions of object-labelled images" to be a defining property of deep learning | 02:54 |
| FourFire | nmz787, on the contrary: arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/9912202 | 02:57 |
| FourFire | set an end date, precommit to actually reach it, and spend the time in between optimizing your code and earning more money | 02:58 |
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| archels | I am apparently having lunch with Stefan Sorgner in 5 minutes | 03:34 |
| archels | any pointed questions I should ask him? | 03:34 |
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| archels | kanzure: to come back to that question of how to define complexity, these guys define it as 1/λ. where λ is a regularisation parameter | 04:47 |
| archels | I guess that makes sense as regularisation is considered a penalty for complexity | 04:48 |
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| kanzure | sup | 06:31 |
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| archels | philosophers. I am surrounded by them | 06:56 |
| kanzure | here's a trick: call them a p-zombie and say "you can't explain that" three times fast. they will vanish in a smokey poof of indignation. | 06:58 |
| cluckj | the very existence of philosophers negates solipsism | 06:59 |
| kanzure | cluckj: perhaps your next thesis should be about the half-life of bad philosophy. how long will i have to wait for all the bad philosophy to die off? | 07:01 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning. | 07:10 |
| cluckj | kanzure, noooooope | 07:13 |
| cluckj | book #2 might be about anti-vaccinators | 07:13 |
| kanzure | uh, why? | 07:14 |
| cluckj | the rhetoric is interesting | 07:15 |
| cluckj | I was also thinking about diabetes biohackers | 07:16 |
| chris_99 | anyone need a new head - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2969375/Could-doctors-REALLY-transplant-head-body-2-years-time-Italian-surgeon-confident-perform-7-5milllion-operation-help-paralysed-patients-like-Christopher-Reeve.html | 07:18 |
| cluckj | the rhetoric that I find interesting in anti-vax and diy bio was that both groups get labeled as "a threat to the social body" | 07:18 |
| cluckj | which I find to be a really troublesome and crypto-fascist metaphor | 07:18 |
| kanzure | anti-vax is too broad in that context though | 07:18 |
| cluckj | yeah | 07:19 |
| cluckj | I wouldn't even do any research on it for like 5 years, so I'm not too concerned with the specifics right now :) | 07:19 |
| kanzure | anti-vax is like 90% parents that are upset with themselves and the world, and then some subset that are interested in pondering the great questions of the universe like "why should the government do x" | 07:19 |
| cluckj | lol | 07:19 |
| cluckj | http://gas.sagepub.com/content/early/2014/05/09/0891243214532711.full.pdf+html?ijkey=fUokCLKdAFzI2&keytype=ref&siteid=spgas | 07:21 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1177%2F0891243214532711 | 07:21 |
| cluckj | thanks paperbot | 07:21 |
| cluckj | that's a pretty interesting article about anti-vax | 07:22 |
| cluckj | the visceral anti-anti-vax stuff is what I find more interesting and a little bit scarier | 07:27 |
| FourFire | chris_99, meh, I'll check back in 3.5 years, the likely time it will actually take to do such a procedure | 07:42 |
| FourFire | 3-5* | 07:43 |
| kanzure | cluckj: "i object to everyone incubating viruses and microbes that might later infect me. therefore i demand that everyone becomes an emulation in the computational butt cloud." | 07:44 |
| cluckj | hah | 08:01 |
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| archels | .title http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v518/n7540/full/nature14236.html | 08:39 |
| yoleaux | Human-level control through deep reinforcement learning : Nature : Nature Publishing Group | 08:39 |
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| kanzure | http://i.imgur.com/MKMgbiM.png | 09:06 |
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| nmz787_i | archels: presumably your algorithm had file-based intermediates so you could swap hardware and get the best of both worlds. But I guess that paper was talking about reducing cost, not reducing overall time. | 09:46 |
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| nmz787_i | paperbot: http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2014/lc/c4lc00833b#!divAbstract | 10:39 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/On-demand%20control%20of%20microfluidic%20flow%20via%20capillary-tuned%20solenoid%20microvalve%20suction.pdf | 10:40 |
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| nmz787_i | "The suction effect was innovatively employed as a stable and controllable driving force for the manipulation of the microfluidic system by connecting a piece of capillary between the microvalve and the microfluidic chip, which caused significant hydrodynamic resistance differences among the solenoid valve ports and changed the flowing mode inside the valve. The volume of sucked liquid could be controlled from microliters even | 10:42 |
| nmz787_i | down to picoliters either by decreasing the valve energized duration (from a maximum energized duration to the valve response time of 20 ms) or by increasing the inserted capillary length (i.e., its hydrodynamic resistance). Several important microfluidic unit operations such as cell/droplet sorting and on-demand size-controllable droplet generation have been demonstrated on the developed platform and both simulations and | 10:42 |
| nmz787_i | experiments confirmed that this platform has good controllability and stability" | 10:42 |
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| delinquentme | UH. | 11:26 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, | 11:26 |
| delinquentme | you. need to watch Full mejal alchemist | 11:26 |
| delinquentme | RULF. new contracts too | 11:26 |
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| kanzure | full metal is boring | 11:54 |
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| maaku | http://www.fastcompany.com/3042861/the-y-combinator-chronicles/the-secret-million-that-y-combinator-invests-in-all-its-startups | 12:02 |
| maaku | .title | 12:02 |
| yoleaux | The Secret Million That Y Combinator Invests In All Its Startups | Fast Company | Business + Innovation | 12:02 |
| maaku | huh bad title. half about transcriptic, half about yc | 12:02 |
| maaku | delinquentme: why FMA? | 12:02 |
| kanzure | just a whiney story about state-sponsored alchemy | 12:03 |
| chris_99 | whats the full-metal part refer to | 12:04 |
| maaku | yeah i saw it when i was younger. interesting, but could have been much better | 12:04 |
| maaku | chris_99: the main character's brother, who had his soul affixed to a suit of armor | 12:05 |
| maaku | or the main character who had a mechanical arm, i don't remember | 12:05 |
| chris_99 | aha, cheers. It's in Japanese i'm assuming | 12:05 |
| maaku | yes | 12:05 |
| maaku | a Full-Metal Rationalist would be interesting (hint hint yudkowski) | 12:06 |
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| delinquentme | maaku, because i love the song at the ending credits | 12:12 |
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| maaku | hah ok | 12:12 |
| maaku | which one? don't they change it up? | 12:12 |
| cluckj | kanzure, "working knowledge"? | 12:15 |
| kanzure | what about it? | 12:15 |
| kanzure | it's like telling someone you know a secret, and they can't really verify it | 12:16 |
| kanzure | it's a principal agent problem | 12:16 |
| kanzure | and probably something about lemons and markets | 12:16 |
| cluckj | wat | 12:16 |
| kanzure | expertise? | 12:16 |
| kanzure | what are we talking about? | 12:16 |
| cluckj | yes | 12:17 |
| kanzure | claims of expertise are very difficult or impossible to verify | 12:17 |
| kanzure | and verification itself is all sorts of broken too | 12:18 |
| cluckj | I'm trying to come up with a phrase that isn't nearly as pedantic and goofy as "expertise, as a verb" | 12:18 |
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| kanzure | adroiting | 12:19 |
| cluckj | the problem I'm having writing this bit is that there's a whole language attached to "expertise" that is difficult to avoid if I keep saying expertise | 12:20 |
| cluckj | hmm | 12:20 |
| kanzure | if the concept is wrong for public communication (eg., it doesn't work: no good reasons to tell people you are an expert, really), then maybe it also has no application in the other way you are attempting to write about | 12:21 |
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| cluckj | it's a very entrenched concept, and I can't ignore it because it's a part of what my discipline talks about | 12:27 |
| cluckj | there's a lot of power dynamics in expertise/authority that pervade how american society works, much of which is invisible | 12:28 |
| cluckj | the power, not american society | 12:30 |
| kanzure | sounds like people are really upset by the idea that people can do things without institutional authority | 12:41 |
| kanzure | why is it so surprising though | 12:41 |
| cluckj | yep | 12:42 |
| cluckj | because it undercuts institutions | 12:42 |
| kanzure | that's not surprising though | 12:43 |
| kanzure | the ability for institutions to do things is only because it is possible for individuals to do things, not the other way around | 12:43 |
| cluckj | the other way around is how the institutionally-entrenched think | 12:44 |
| cluckj | like you can't do medical research, or any real science at all, without a million dollar budget | 12:45 |
| cluckj | and to handle that size of a budget you need an institution, QED you can only do things in institutions | 12:46 |
| kanzure | heh, the weird thing is that a million bucks is no big deal, hell i know a few people in here who have signing authority for that much in their day job, easily | 12:47 |
| kanzure | although probably not single check signing authority for that amount of course :) | 12:47 |
| cluckj | right | 12:47 |
| cluckj | I bet that job is in some kind of institution though :P | 12:47 |
| kanzure | huh? | 12:48 |
| kanzure | why would that matter? | 12:48 |
| kanzure | i was trying to emphasize the difference there, where it's not a big deal, whereas academia makes it out to be a big deal | 12:49 |
| cluckj | I'm saying it matters because of the connection between authority, power, and institutions...if you can do the same or similar scientific research that Merck is doing in their billion-dollar laboratories for $100 in your kitchen, it freaks people out | 12:50 |
| kanzure | i could go on a money rant here if you would like | 12:51 |
| kanzure | over time it should be only natural for small amounts of money to do more things. that shows an increase in capability for lower amounts of savings activity. | 12:51 |
| kanzure | instead what we see though is larger and larger amounts of money being spent to do totally trivial things (or sometimes what /ought/ to be trivial things) | 12:52 |
| maaku | "that's the cost of doing business" | 12:53 |
| cluckj | it freaks the FBI and the FDA out because there's no "institutional oversight" (which I guess makes everything super safe for them), it freaks the medical-industrial complex out because they've built up this argument that they need to charge so much for drugs because they're spending tons of cash on research | 12:53 |
| maaku | worst rationalization ever | 12:53 |
| cluckj | kanzure, definitely | 12:53 |
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| cluckj | lots of people believe the medical-industrial complex on that lie because those companies are the only ones doing that kind of research at the moment | 12:55 |
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| kanzure | cluckj: i think that the system should be architected so that over time an individual is able to investigate more things on their own | 12:59 |
| kanzure | cluckj: because in genreal we need the costs of basic research to be going down significantly if we want to cover as many things as we plan to | 13:00 |
| cluckj | so when DIY starts undercutting one part of the "WE NEED INSTITUTIONS TO GET ANYTHING DONE" rhetoric, people who are invested in those institutions get very nervous | 13:00 |
| cluckj | yes | 13:00 |
| kanzure | nobody seriously cares if a college vanishes-- i mean if a college was to go underwater, someone or some other institution would just buy it, no big deal | 13:01 |
| cluckj | colleges aren't the only institutions that do research | 13:03 |
| kanzure | so what are they nervous about | 13:03 |
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| cluckj | they're nervous that the authority and power that their institution provides is going to disappear | 13:03 |
| cluckj | that their investment in the institutional structures is going to be wasted | 13:04 |
| Mokstar | you really think DIY research is on their radar? | 13:04 |
| cluckj | if people are going to start doing their own medical research, and experimenting on themselves, do we really need the FDA anymore? | 13:04 |
| kanzure | sunk cost fallacy? | 13:04 |
| kanzure | that's not what the FDA was originally setup for :P | 13:04 |
| cluckj | kanzure, yes | 13:05 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/fda/ | 13:05 |
| cluckj | Mokstar, yes | 13:05 |
| kanzure | i don't think it's "on their radar" in that sense, it's more like a... "what does this mean and why is that happening" sense | 13:06 |
| kanzure | and then wider existential crises | 13:06 |
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| kanzure | the fda is not really because people are worried about people taking medicine, it's more of a regulation/authority/government/market thing.. | 13:07 |
| cluckj | kanzure, they're worried because they're supposed to ensure public safety about medicines...if people are making their own (or collectively making it), they can't really regulate it | 13:08 |
| kanzure | "public safety" is sort of a broken concept in a few places | 13:09 |
| kanzure | have you read about "the proactionary principle" from max more? | 13:09 |
| cluckj | DIY research is definitely on the radar of several companies and the federal government | 13:09 |
| kanzure | another thing that i would recommend, and this may sound stupid, is "site:mises.org fda" heh | 13:09 |
| cluckj | ya | 13:10 |
| kanzure | http://mises.org/library/we-cannot-predict-many-ways-freedom-will-improve-our-lives | 13:10 |
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| cluckj | yes....it's the unknown unknown | 13:13 |
| kanzure | http://www.maxmore.com/proactionary.html | 13:13 |
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| cluckj | oh dear, the forward march of progress | 13:15 |
| kanzure | well, there's some context here, it's not intended to sound like that | 13:15 |
| cluckj | haha | 13:15 |
| kanzure | the context is that he was trying to explain why the precautionary principle is not good | 13:15 |
| cluckj | yes | 13:18 |
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| cluckj | I'm saying it's about losing power and control, not about public safety | 13:19 |
| cluckj | the way that the FDA currently regulates is tied up with other institutions, and DIY stuff disrupts that | 13:20 |
| cluckj | so they're going to be freaking out about it until someone figures out a way to regulate DIY | 13:20 |
| cluckj | which is to be honest, a kind of creepy prospect in every way I can think of | 13:21 |
| cluckj | the way the FBI is 'regulating' DIY bio is extremely creepy | 13:21 |
| kanzure | there was an idea somewhere about turning the fda into something you opt into... don't know where that idea came from.. | 13:22 |
| cluckj | ew? | 13:23 |
| kanzure | well it's better than them telling you that you can't buy a heart or whateer | 13:24 |
| kanzure | *whatever | 13:24 |
| cluckj | they need to find a way to regulate that doesn't exclusively require a formalized institution | 13:24 |
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| cluckj | I'm okay with not being able to buy a heart | 13:26 |
| kanzure | have fun being heartless | 13:27 |
| cluckj | ...is someone going to steal mine from me? | 13:28 |
| kanzure | no, but yours might break | 13:30 |
| cluckj | I do have a bad track record of organs breaking without much notice | 13:31 |
| cluckj | I'd rather grow one at genspace than buy one, though | 13:38 |
| kanzure | genspace isn't very do-it-yourslef | 13:39 |
| cluckj | oh? | 13:40 |
| cluckj | I mean I wouldn't want to grow a heart for myself by myself | 13:41 |
| cluckj | I have no idea wtf I am doing | 13:41 |
| kanzure | it's a community lab company. | 13:41 |
| kanzure | i didn't claim you should grow your own heart; my comment was about buying hearts. | 13:41 |
| kanzure | you mentioned genspace and i thought that may have been because DIY reasons | 13:42 |
| kanzure | and thus my comment about categorizing genspace | 13:42 |
| cluckj | haha | 13:42 |
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| kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9114159 | 14:57 |
| yoleaux | 20n (YC W15) Uses Software To Engineer Microbes For Chemical-Making | Hacker News | 14:57 |
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| kanzure | why? | 14:59 |
| kanzure | everyone and their dog does metabolic pathway engineering stuff. so what makes this any different? | 14:59 |
| kanzure | "Optimizing for large scale production is indeed what most of the field works on. There have been many success stories: an anti-malarial drug through yeast (Artemisinin by Amyris+Sanofi), a plastic precursor through bacteria (1,4-BDO by Genomatica+DuPont), and more. What they are missing is the whole spectrum of what could be made biologically. We will create microbes for the most valuable chemicals and then partner with existing ... | 15:00 |
| kanzure | ... optimization companies that have industrial fermenters running. Think beer fermentation, just instead of the alcohol yeast, you use our yeast." | 15:00 |
| kanzure | huh? that's missing? | 15:00 |
| kanzure | what? "Defensibility for us: microbes we build, and the platform they form. Our software-driven engineering is significantly faster than the state-of-the-art: human's looking at metabolic maps. People will start building on top of our initial microbes and improving them. These initial microbes form the "platform" from which to enable more bioproduction apps." | 15:00 |
| kanzure | how is that defensibility | 15:00 |
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| kanzure | maybe there's a business model to be had related to the private delivery of private strains (not even patented strains, just straight up private) | 15:04 |
| kanzure | hmm but that doesn't explain enough.. | 15:04 |
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| kanzure | what?? "Their special sauce is their software platform. While there are companies that license ways to create bacteria that produce specialty chemicals, the process of identifying how to create these microbes is tedious." | 15:09 |
| kanzure | something doesn't add up here | 15:09 |
| kanzure | "With the specialty chemical industry being worth $980 billion, licenses for these microbes can start in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. 20n already has several contracts in negotiation." | 15:09 |
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| kanzure | "Protein folding, 50 years on" http://web.iitd.ac.in/~nkurur/2012-13/IIsem/cyl110/protfoldprob50.pdf | 15:18 |
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| dpk | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12119-000-1011-y | 17:00 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/10c4f9b63dc8cdcb20e82d42278b881.txt | 17:00 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, you shuld publish a weekly thinger on whos doing what thats cool | 17:46 |
| delinquentme | PLZ | 17:46 |
| delinquentme | pz. | 17:46 |
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| kanzure | a blog? no thanks | 18:10 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carterfone#Landmark_regulatory_decision | 18:10 |
| kanzure | "This ruling (13 F.C.C.2d 420) created the possibility of selling devices that could connect to the phone system using a protective coupler, and opened the market to customer-owned equipment. The decision is often referred-to as "any lawful device", allowing later innovations like answering machines, fax machines, and modems (which initially used the same type of manual acoustic coupler as the Carterfone) to proliferate." | 18:11 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: nah you need to 'tweet' it I think | 18:29 |
| nmz787 | or better yet, post it to myspace | 18:29 |
| nmz787 | then need some love | 18:29 |
| nmz787 | each post has to be in the form of metal music | 18:29 |
| nmz787 | and you need to scream the cool news at the sudience | 18:29 |
| nmz787 | audience* | 18:29 |
| nmz787 | what is the state of pdfparanoia? did you ever succeed in getting a congealed critical-mass of librarians to hang out on IRC and chat about this sort of stuff? | 18:31 |
| kanzure | that's #code4lib | 18:34 |
| nmz787 | any suggestions for what I should think about working on for a talk at defcon? | 18:36 |
| nmz787 | i'm thinking a simple electromicrofluidic with spectroscopy | 18:36 |
| nmz787 | made a capillary electrophoresis rig | 18:36 |
| nmz787 | using a microscope for lithography stage and also detection of chromatography eluents | 18:37 |
| nmz787 | then throw some FIB shit in there somehow, probably most likely relating to plating the electrical traces (though I might be able to do that with normal lithography then gold sputtering) | 18:38 |
| nmz787 | s/made/maybe/ | 18:40 |
| nmz787 | huh, rich pell had something to do with that arduino thermal cycler | 18:56 |
| cluckj | yes | 19:08 |
| nmz787 | he seems like a decent guy | 19:09 |
| nmz787 | his museuem was fun to visit | 19:09 |
| nmz787 | museum* | 19:09 |
| cluckj | he's a really great dude | 19:10 |
| cluckj | I still haven't made it to the museum yet | 19:10 |
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| nmz787 | yeah I think I went twice | 19:11 |
| nmz787 | once maybe just for a second | 19:12 |
| nmz787 | I can't really remember | 19:12 |
| cluckj | lol | 19:12 |
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| cluckj | I need to get to pittsburgh when it's not the holidays so I can do | 19:20 |
| cluckj | err go | 19:20 |
| nmz787 | i took my dad | 19:30 |
| nmz787 | :P | 19:30 |
| cluckj | oh god | 19:30 |
| cluckj | was he prepared for the weird? | 19:30 |
| nmz787 | he thought it was strange that I photographed the entire row of books (so i could get the titles) | 19:31 |
| nmz787 | oh, yeah I think so | 19:31 |
| nmz787 | he seemed to enjoy it | 19:31 |
| nmz787 | we went out to dinner after with rich | 19:31 |
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| cluckj | he's having a baby, dunno when it's due | 19:32 |
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| cluckj | my partner told me like....earlier this month? so maybe in 5 or 6 months from now | 19:35 |
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| nmz787 | i think he had it last month | 19:46 |
| nmz787 | or they | 19:46 |
| cluckj | it does take two, usually | 19:47 |
| cluckj | no, it's way too early | 19:50 |
| cluckj | I'll ask her in the morning | 19:51 |
| cluckj | maybe what she said was "rich had a baby" instead of "rich is having a baby" | 20:08 |
| nmz787 | hah | 20:08 |
| cluckj | whateva | 20:09 |
| nmz787 | are you from pgh? | 20:09 |
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| cluckj | no | 20:09 |
| cluckj | my partner was friends with him at CMU for undergrad, then she and him ended up at RPI (with me) at the same time | 20:10 |
| JayDugger | ... | 20:11 |
| cluckj | ? | 20:13 |
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| nmz787 | niceeee | 20:26 |
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| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/DFT_flavor_of_coordination_chemistry.pdf | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | DFT... mmm, Donut Flavor Technology | 20:50 |
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| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Realistic_Modeling_of_Nanostructures_Using_Density_Functional_Theory.pdf | 22:06 |
| nmz787 | "standard, state-of-the-art electronic-structure approaches based on density functional theory (DFT) have computational costs that scale as the second power of the number of atoms studied for the memory required in a calculation, and as the third power for the CPU time." | 22:20 |
| nmz787 | as of 2006 | 22:20 |
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